Harvey Burkin from Maxwell’s Cigar Bar

Speaker1: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Woodstock, Georgia, it’s time for Cherokee Business Radio. Now here’s your host.

Speaker2: [00:00:22] Welcome to Cherokee Business RadioX Stone Payton here with you, and you guys are in for a real treat for this special afternoon episode. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast with Maxwell’s Cigar Bar, Mr. Harvey Burkin. Good afternoon, sir. Good afternoon. We have we’ve been chatting about having you come in the studio for some time now. Almost immediately after my wife, Holly and I moved here. And I have so been looking forward to this. Holly and I have been here all of six months maybe. And how long you been in this community?

Speaker3: [00:00:59] Well, I actually live in Marietta, but my shop’s been here since 2010.

Speaker2: [00:01:04] Oh, my. I’ve been a lot has changed since then. And your shop, it’s it’s is it Arnold Mill by the time you get on that sort of main street. They call it something else

Speaker3: [00:01:14] Outside its town

Speaker2: [00:01:15] Like Barkway Tantalite Parkway. So, yeah, if you would for the folks the address of Maxwell’s Cigar Bar, what’s the address and kind to describe the location.

Speaker3: [00:01:22] One five zero town like Parkway Suite one five eight Woodstock.

Speaker2: [00:01:28] So the way I describe it is it’s a five minute walk from Stone’s house because Holly and I bought but a home right there on the edge of town. And yeah, it’s like a four minute walk to restock and then another minute over to your place and occasionally coming or going, particularly if it’s if it’s like late afternoon, early evening. You know, I’ve seen deer a couple of times and that and that would bother you. So mission, purpose, objective. What prompted you to to have a cigar bar? What are you trying to create for people that.

Speaker3: [00:02:06] Well, I’ve been a fine cigar lover for about 35 years and I’ve been in the car business, gosh, half my life or longer since 1979 and made good money in the car business. Much better money than I’m making now. But I hate to go to work every day. It’s just I didn’t look forward to it and I really had no intention of opening a cigar bar until about the last year. I was in the car business and I just started putting some ideas together, started looking for a location and boom, there I am. It was it was tough. Get going. We opened up on Chambers St right in downtown Woodstock, and I was scared to death the condos upstairs where they were when they first built them in two thousand eight. They were asking five hundred grand for a one bedroom. Wow. And when I leased my spot in 2010, the sales office had a sign out front condos from the one forties. So, I mean, just, you know, the economy busted, you know, just nobody was buying them. And my only hope to do a decent business. I was right across from here to Korea and they have an upstairs outdoor patio that people eat. And I thought, well, maybe I can get enough traffic just from people sitting up there eating, deciding, hey, you know, after dinner, let’s go have a cigar, have a glass of wine or a beer. And that’s how I got started. And it was tough. First few years I had to keep putting money back into the company and it probably took three or four years before I started holding its own.

Speaker2: [00:03:47] So what was the biggest challenge in getting that thing up and running, if you remember? What was what was the toughest part?

Speaker3: [00:03:56] Oh, going through all the licensing.

Speaker2: [00:03:59] Yeah, I not about that.

Speaker3: [00:04:00] Yeah. If I had known all the stumbling block I probably never would have done it.

Speaker2: [00:04:07] That is not the first time we’ve heard very successful entrepreneurs come in here and they’re like these ten year overnight success stories. Right. And they’re like, if I didn’t know then what I know now, I have done so totally different.

Speaker3: [00:04:19] Yeah. Between the health department and the city licensing and the state licensing and, you know, everybody so many people trying to. Make tobacco illegal and, you know, they try to group cigars in the same category as cigarets and, you know, so many studies have shown that they’re totally different. People don’t smoke cigars, they don’t inhale cigars. They don’t have the same health risks as cigarets do. But, you know, the government keeps trying to lump them into the same group.

Speaker2: [00:04:52] So you built this business and it had its trials early on, as you’ve described, and then you made it over some hump or some series of humps. And now you’ve got you have this thing going. But I’ve been there. I’ve been there several times now. Sometimes I’ll just pick up a cigar. But a few times I’ve sat down and just sort of I’ve enjoyed the people watching and just kind of hanging out and relaxing. You’ve built something far beyond a place to to have a cigar or a beer, a little bit of one. You’ve built this. You’ve built this destination. You’ve built this oasis. You’ve built this. I don’t even know what’s the right word for it is how you’ve built this thing that I don’t even know how to describe.

Speaker3: [00:05:37] And it wasn’t really part of any kind of business plan. It just kind of evolved. You know, there’s a lot of cigar store, there’s a ton of cigar stores in the state of Georgia. I mean, there used to be over two hundred. I don’t know if there still are a pandemic, but some of them under I don’t know. But a lot of them, you know, they’re just a walk in by cigars and leave a lot of them. You can buy cigars, sit there and smoke. Most do not have an alcohol license of any kind. In fact, when I was originally trying to open, I was looking for a place in Marietta, in Cobb County where I live and not realizing it. But at that time or still, you can’t get an alcohol license, even beer and wine, unless fifty one percent of your business is food. And I used to be in the restaurant business and I am not interested.

Speaker2: [00:06:32] You knew you

Speaker3: [00:06:33] Didn’t want that. The health department put me through enough hoops just because I have to wash glasses. I had to put an extra bathroom in. I had to put a certain type of floor down under a three compartment sink with a handwash sink and things that I never would have had to done if I would serve wine in plastic cups. But I didn’t think wine goes well with plastic cups. So I succumb to their requirements and and they and they charge me every year for health inspections. And, you know, I don’t know really how much they expect inspect because all I’m doing is washing glasses anyway.

Speaker2: [00:07:13] Well, I just I just so enjoy and sometimes, like, you know, tomorrow I may go grab a cigar too. And, you know, just so that I have a couple at the house, I haven’t I don’t have like a humidor at home or anything, but I got one, you know what, a quarter of a mile away that Harvey maintains. I don’t even have to worry about it, but I have also enjoyed just chilling out. There’s two or three, four screens in there. You can watch the sports or sometimes you’ll have like the cool car channel on there. But one thing I have noticed is often right the screen right behind the main the bar thing, there’s often a Cubs game going. What’s the deal with that?

Speaker3: [00:07:58] I’m from Chicago and I am a diehard Cubs fan. So if there’s a Cubs game on TV, it’s going to be on one of those screens. Otherwise it’s going to be. I have the MLB app on my phone, so if it’s not being televised, I’ll I’ll sit there watching it on my phone. But we’re a little different than most of the other shops. In fact, I’ve got people come in that say, you know, I passed by for cigar shops on my way here. I said, why, why? Why do you come here? Well, because, you know, I go into other places and there’s little clicks of people, you know, sitting around talking to each other. And it’s almost like, you know, sitting there by myself. He said, this is like a cheers. You walk in, you’re greeted, you’re helped. If you need help in the human, are people sitting down will say, hey, first time here, hey, let me show you around. It’s just a very inviting, open atmosphere. Another thing that sets us apart from most of the other cigar stores is we have live entertainment on Friday and Saturday nights. It’s mostly blues. I’m being from Chicago. I’m a big blues fan. Yeah, some rock and roll. And we get the quality of the the talent that we get. Musicians, it amazes me that they will play for is small amount of money as I could afford. And the reason I’m I’ve got such a tight budget on the entertainment is because I don’t charge a cover charge. So the music’s free and to help the musicians, because I know I don’t pay them nearly as much as they’re worth, I walk around during the night with the tip jar and try to collect some money for him. But I don’t charge a cover charge because I don’t want to deter the person that just wants to walk in and sit and smoke a cigar and have it, you know. So therefore, you know, I don’t charge to cover charge. I don’t want to have those people turn around and walk away.

Speaker2: [00:09:54] Well, thank you so much for going to the trouble and expense of getting the beer and wine license, because it is very nice for me. As my listeners know, I’m a huge fan of the IPA and as much walking as I’m doing, I haven’t really lost any weight because I typically will cap my walk off with an IPA, either walking by reformation or by or by your shop. But it does make all the difference in the world. You know, being able to have a glass of wine or or pour a beer. And I see that people really enjoy that. But did you ever anticipate maybe you knew what you were doing from day one? Maybe it just sort of came together. I mean, there there is this cheers. There’s this naum atmosphere that that is that is there. That that’s got to feel good to know. That you helped create that it does.

Speaker3: [00:10:48] I mean, I’ve been in sales all my life, so, you know, customer service is very high on my priority list. Right. And, you know, another few comments I hear from people going into other stores that, you know, it’s like they don’t care if you’re there or not. I do. If you’re not there, I’m out of business. So, you know, when I first opened, you know, I wanted to carry a certain kind of beer. I didn’t want to carry light beers or anything like that. And if I’d have stuck with what I liked as far as cigars and beers, I probably would have been out of business in six months because most people like light beers. Most people like mild cigars. Not my favorites, but, you know, I’m in business for you. You know, you’re you’re what makes the business go. So I got to carry what customers want.

Speaker2: [00:11:44] So how does one? Because the whole cigar world is relatively new to me, like less than two years for me. How does one go about choosing how to stock like that humidor? For me, I’m now kind of getting in the groove. I’m trying to stay open minded and try different things. But I have I’ve begun to land on a couple of old standbys that I know I’m going to enjoy this one or that one. But you must have a tremendous number of choices available to you. How do you. Yeah. Yeah. How does that unfold?

Speaker3: [00:12:17] Well, because I’ve been a cigar smoker for, you know, 30 plus years. I had a basic knowledge of what a lot of cigars were all about as far as flavor wise. Construction wise. So that helped me tremendously and then, you know, I look around at other cigar shops and see what they were selling that I wasn’t and, you know, taking cues from my customers, you know, if they didn’t see something they were looking for, they would ask me about it. And, you know, if I had enough people ask me for something I didn’t carry, I’d start carrying it, OK? And it just it just grew from there.

Speaker2: [00:12:55] So I am not the person who buys a box of cigars and then takes them home to a human or although at an event, which was a great deal of fun for me, for a brand that I do enjoy. Purnomo, that guy that guy who had seen on the YouTube videos, I got to shake the hand of the rockstar. And, you know, he’s a big deal in that kind of, you know, in that world. I bought a box and and took and took them home. Do people come to you and buy boxes? Are the most people buy smaller like I do in your situation?

Speaker3: [00:13:26] No, we get lots of people that come in and buy boxes. Are you do. We we never did before. You know, when I first opened, people were coming in and buying one, two, three cigars at a time. That was it. I mean, I try to push sales up a little bit by my everyday special, which I still have. You buy five cigars, you get the six one free, or if you buy a box of cigars, you get ten percent off. But since my business has evolved and grown and I’m able to stock more back order, I mean, back stock of items, right. Because the boxes are there. I’m selling a lot more boxes and that’s tremendously helping my income, I bet.

Speaker2: [00:14:02] But it’s now a business like yours because I’m kind of from the the services training consultant world. Way back when I had black hair and something closer to it, do a job. So I have a little bit of a feel for what sales and marketing, you know, can be in that world. How does the whole sales marketing thing work in a in a in a situation like yours? Like do you advertise is an all word of mouth, is it? I know how you go about

Speaker3: [00:14:31] Getting on the map. It’s mostly word of mouth. When I first started I oh what’s that thing called. Where you sign up and the. You can go in and get half off or something.

Speaker2: [00:14:45] Oh, not like the Groupon. OK, I remember that. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker3: [00:14:49] I think I did Groupon, which, you know, turned out to be, you know, fairly expensive, but at least it got me in the initial group of customers that I heard of me, but I really don’t. And I tried a couple of local newspapers from time to time, but the only advertising I do now cost me nothing. I do Facebook, Twitter and, you know, I’ve got an email list that you can get on it also. And I post entertainment that’s going to be on weekly and any new cigar’s. We may have any special events like cigar events, which sometimes we have scotch tastings, whiskey tastings, bourbon tastings. I post all that. So if you want to get on my email list, I can tell you how right now.

Speaker2: [00:15:36] Yeah, go ahead. We’ll do it at the end, too. But tell them no. How did how did people start kind of getting tapped into your community and see what’s going on?

Speaker3: [00:15:42] Just go into your text and text the word cigar’s to six six eight six six six six eight six six. Just text the word cigar’s. It’ll prompt you for your email address and then you’ll be on our list and you’ll know everything that’s going on in Maxwells that.

Speaker2: [00:15:59] Well, that’s handy. OK, so let’s back up even further. You talked a little bit about being in the car business. I can’t remember now if it was before we went on air or after going on air. When you talked a little bit about being in the restaurant business, where did it all start? Did you went to school? Yeah. Back us up a little bit. Let’s get the back story on how you got here.

Speaker3: [00:16:20] I went to Southern Illinois University, home of the Salukis.

Speaker2: [00:16:24] What is a saluki to look? He’s a

Speaker3: [00:16:26] Dog. Almost kind of looks like a Greyhound, right. Anyway, not a very big sports school, although they did make the Sweet 16 in basketball a few times kind. A terrible football team. You know, it’s not really a school to go to if you’re into sports. I got my degree funny enough in broadcasting, but getting out, I was managing a restaurant making three to four times as much as I would have as a starting out disc jockey. So I just kind of passed on that and kept the restaurant business and then opened a Chicago hotdog restaurant in Gainesville, Florida. And it lasted about two years and I decided to get out of it. Move.

Speaker2: [00:17:08] You’re just very entrepreneurial, though. I mean, just pretty early on, you sort of did your own thing.

Speaker3: [00:17:14] Yeah, but after the after the restaurant business, I wanted to move back to a big city. But something didn’t have the severe winters like Chicago. But I had had four seasons. So Atlanta seemed like the perfect place. I was single at the time. Fact I’m single again and

Speaker2: [00:17:30] Lovingly attached to understandingly

Speaker3: [00:17:32] Attachments.

Speaker2: [00:17:33] Crack house shout out to her who is not. She doesn’t like to be out there out front. So much so.

Speaker3: [00:17:39] Right, right. But her name is Patrice.

Speaker2: [00:17:41] All right. Shout out to Patrice. Bless your heart, Patrice. Thank you for keeping Harvey happy.

Speaker3: [00:17:47] So I moved here and after the restaurant business, I was a little bit scared of sticking my foot in the water to open another business. So I got

Speaker2: [00:17:56] Your little gunshy. You know,

Speaker3: [00:17:57] I got into the car business and I was in it for, like I said, over thirty years. And then I decided, you know, I’m getting up there in age. I hate what I’m doing. Um, and that’s what, you know, made me do the switch

Speaker2: [00:18:10] That I mean, did you you had you had to be a little bit nervous.

Speaker3: [00:18:16] Oh, I was scared to death.

Speaker2: [00:18:17] Scared you’d have to be. Now, I believe it’s your son that is there quite regularly. So is this now or will it become a family business or is this a distraction for this until he figures out his own thing or a little of all of the above? But doesn’t that out of the reason I’m asking is we have had in fact, at one time we actually had a show called Family Owned Business. And it’s my understanding from, you know, just kind of hanging on the periphery of that show and just running the board. I wasn’t even part of the actual show. You know, there’s different dynamics and all that, right? I mean, do you talk about that at Thanksgiving? Dinner is like off the table. I mean, it’s a different dynamic, right?

Speaker3: [00:19:01] Well, he worked for me for the first couple of years that we were open first two or three years. And it’s it’s tough working with family. So the the working relationship ended for several years. And he’s he’s grown up quite a bit and he’s come back to work for me again, probably, I’d say within the last year. So, yeah, we’re we’re getting along much better than we used.

Speaker2: [00:19:28] Well no I think like it my wife, bless her heart. I mean, she’s she’s the only reason that I could even, you know, do this kind it do this kind of thing, especially in the early years. And I often will ask her advice and I’ll. Behind the scenes, she might she might record a voiceover or, you know, but I don’t know, day to day working, I mean, that would be a different I don’t know if I’d be willing to fight that. So as you think about the future plans, have you pretty much just got this puppy dialed in and it is what it is and you’re going to ride right it through? Or do you have some vision of doing something more and different down the line?

Speaker3: [00:20:09] I had thoughts of opening, you know, a Maxwells two or but no, at my age, I’m not going to do it, OK? I’m going to keep this doing it until I can’t do it anymore. And then we’ll see what happens, put it up for sale or, you know, see if my son wants to buy it

Speaker2: [00:20:28] Or you go or no. And with the community that you’ve built, you might be able to sell it to your customers. Oh, yeah, I wouldn’t doubt that. I’ll bet you. I bet there’s a half a dozen or a dozen. It’s OK. We’re going to we’re going to buy Harvey’s place.

Speaker3: [00:20:42] In fact, there were a couple of spots that were open that seemed to be crying for a business like mine. And several of my customers had offered to back me if I wanted to. Oh, yeah. So they know that Maxwells is a good place and they would, I guess, like the formula and and I wouldn’t mind put some capital into it. But like I said. No, I don’t have much energy anymore.

Speaker2: [00:21:04] Well, I mean, and why necessarily do it? If you’ve built what you wanted, you created this thing. You had this marvelous community. And incidentally, my experience has been and I’ve only been going there since maybe January. Yes, there are this group of regulars. And yes, you do see them visiting with each other and they are very quick to invite someone like me into the conversation in a heartbeat. And they’re very quick to be helpful. And and so I’m I’m accustomed to being in some environments like that where you can tell that there’s this this inner circle, which is cool. And so you have you have that group that although still out there, they playing trivia sometimes over the screen. Yeah, OK. I thought. And so you’ve got like this regular group and they’re doing something interactive. But even if I just stand there for a second small, I mean, they’re inviting me into the conversation and it’s so it’s it’s I don’t know. It’s just a very inviting, welcoming environment. I forgive me. I can’t remember whether I just read it on the Internet or if we already talked about it. But there’s a story behind the name Maxwells. Yep. Yeah. What’s the deal? Because you’re not you’re not Maxwell.

Speaker3: [00:22:15] I’d be sitting in my office in the car business, you know, at downtimes with legal pads full of full of names that I wanted to come up with for the cigar bar. And I just go through sheet after she left sheet and nothing really seemed to click. And then all of a sudden Maxwells came to me. Maxwell was a dog that I had won. We had to put down about, oh, about fifteen years ago. But he was my best friend. I would come home from the car business sometimes not till midnight, 1:00 in the morning. You heard the garage door open. He come running down the stairs, follow me around through my routine, where I’d go back upstairs, change clothes that got a cigar, come down, put some jazz or blues on the outdoor speakers on my deck and sit out there and smoke a cigar and have a glass of wine or a glass of scotch. And he’d just be sitting on the deck with me like right by the steps, you know, like watching over, you know, just to make sure everything was OK. I’d finished my cigar, my drink. I’d go back in and we both go to bed. And about the first week after he was gone, I’d go out there and smoke a cigar and I’d just be crying, my gosh. Anyway, so I figured, let me name the place Maxwells. It sounds like a fairly classy name and keep his name alive. In fact, I’ve got a picture of him behind the bar. People come and say, Are you Maxwell? I know. And I point his picture. I go, That’s Maxwell.

Speaker2: [00:23:45] Oh, I love it. Oh, my gracious. What what a dear story. Well, I’m going to be looking more closely for that for the picture. A picture of Maxwell. OK, somebody out there before we wrap up, let’s see if we can’t maybe shrink the timeline and reduce the friction for somebody else out there if they’ve had similar hopes and dreams. Somebody out there is in their version of the car business, whatever it is. And they’ve got some some thoughts, you know, and maybe it’s only when they’ve had a bad day, but maybe they’re there. It’s happening more and more. And they’re saying, you know, I’m going to do my own thing. I’m going to I want to step out and I’m going to open a business. I’m not going to be hemmed in by this thing forever. What advice, what counsel, if any, do you have for someone who may be considering making that job?

Speaker3: [00:24:36] Do some research. Ninety nine percent of the people you talk to about are going to tell you it. Don’t do it. It’s going to fail. Stay in your secure job. Don’t listen to him, because when you’re on your deathbed, you’re probably going to be saying to yourself, what if I had done this? What if I had tried that? You know, who knows why I listen to all these people that told me he was going to fail. I mean, everybody it starts out in business is scared to death. You just got to jump into it. I did scared the life out of me, but it was also it was one of the most exciting moments in my life when I decided to actually go ahead and do it. So that’s my advice.

Speaker2: [00:25:24] Well, I’m glad I asked. And I can tell and I know it’s coming through on the airwaves, too, but sitting here listening to you and watching you describe the feeling that you have from being the guy that put this thing together. I mean, I can I can I can hear in your voice. I can see in your eyes. I could I could almost feel it in your heart that you really are you’re really glad you did this. And it wasn’t just about the money. I don’t I don’t know.

Speaker3: [00:25:52] Like I said, I’m making a good bit less money than I used to. But the stress level is so much less my happiness level is so much higher so that it’s all I can say right now.

Speaker2: [00:26:07] And you know how you put a price on some of that. And I’m getting to learn and know more and more. One of the things that I’ve enjoyed I mentioned the one event, I think where the gentleman is it Nick Purnomo? OK, that was really fun. Did the event and we took pictures and I did buy a box at that time and that was really cool. But you have the the live music, which I want to circle back to before we wrap. But you have events from time to time. Now, a lot of people listen to this material on demand. So if you’re listening in twenty twenty to twenty twenty three, don’t go to this event we’re about to talk about. Well it’s known will probably be there by that time. Stone might have a locker stone but Stone will be there. But but like as early as for those of you who are listening on demand down the road we’re like right neck deep in the in the heat of summer. It’s late July and but it’s as early as tomorrow. You’ve got another one of these kind of event things to talk about, that type of thing and that event.

Speaker3: [00:27:06] Well, today is Monday. And this Wednesday we have an event with a company called Drew Estate, which a huge company. They sell their big unflavored cigars. They call them Acid’s. They got real strange names for some of their flavored cigars, but they also have just regular cigars that cigar enthusiasts, cigar aficionados absolutely love. And that event is going to be this Wednesday, the twenty eighth of July at from five till nine p.m. They’ll be giveaways, door prizes. There’ll be all kinds of specials. So if you’re around and you’re a cigar lover or just want to inquire about them, come on back.

Speaker2: [00:27:53] And so you’ll do a hey apparently since I’ve lived here less than six months, you’ve had two or three of these things that at least I was I was aware of. So you must you just do this periodically from different brands or different different things. So that’s fun to be a part of. OK, back to this live event thing that so is just like most weekends or is it like a weekend, a month or how does that work?

Speaker3: [00:28:19] No, my events well, I used to do like one event, one cigar event a month when the pandemic hit and most of the companies would not let their reps travel. Right. So we kind of did away with the events until this year when it

Speaker2: [00:28:33] Started to open and back up again. And then what about the live music stuff,

Speaker3: [00:28:36] Live music we had to cut out last year. In fact, city Woodstock told me I had to shut down in March of twenty twenty because I was a bar. Ouch. And I looked up on Cherokee County Health Department’s Web site. And the definition of a bar is a store that sells I think it said seventy or seventy five percent of their business was alcohol and mine’s nowhere near that much like maybe twenty percent. So I stayed open. I closed the lounge, which and I cut my hours back to close at six o’clock. But you can come in, you can buy cigars, you just couldn’t smoke them on the premises and the stores on both sides of me were closed. So that didn’t bother those entrepreneurs. But a lot of my regular customers, they come in at eleven o’clock in the morning. When we open, they buy their cigars. They’ve got some folding chairs know socially distancing. I find six

Speaker2: [00:29:29] Feet.

Speaker3: [00:29:29] Oh yeah. So and this would happen every day, you know, they just sit up and cigars. And I remember one day I was out there and a law enforcement officer, I can’t remember what branch or if it was city or county or whatever he pulled up and the. You walked up and looked at us and said. You got six feet apart. Yes, we are. He says, I’m just kidding you. I’m just here to buy some cigars.

Speaker2: [00:29:58] That’s great. I’m glad to. But now things are starting to come back to a little bit of a sense of normalcy. So you’ve got you just had live music this past weekend because my nephew went and bought a couple cigars and we were asking about it. So you’ll have live music again, like in August or.

Speaker3: [00:30:15] No, no live music. We have every week, every Friday, every Saturday, Friday and Saturday night.

Speaker2: [00:30:19] Holy cow. 9:00 to midnight. How do I not know that? OK. All right. Well, then I got to you’re probably going to be seeing more and you’re more in the kind of the the blues. Yep. Oh I love the blues. That’s going to be. Well, no, you color me there and I hope our listeners will well take a shot at it. OK, before we wrap, let’s make sure once again that our listeners have some good points of contact. Whatever you think is appropriate, they email the texte thing. I got to ask you about that off air because that’s kind of cool. They can text that and then kind of come into your circle, LinkedIn and email, whatever you say, website, whatever you think is appropriate. Let’s make sure they can get to you.

Speaker3: [00:30:54] Ok, I got my address on Twitter is at Maxwells Cigar. To be honest with you, I don’t know what my contact is on Facebook or Instagram, but I’m on their

Speaker2: [00:31:09] Set like me.

Speaker3: [00:31:11] My physical address is once again one five zero town like Parkway Suite one five eight Woodstock real one eight eight. Phone number for the shop is seven seven zero six to seven to zero zero six. Email is info at Maxwells Cigar Bar Dotcom

Speaker2: [00:31:34] Well Harvey Burkean with Maxwell Cigar Bar. This has been an absolute delight. I have thoroughly enjoyed getting to know you a little bit more and visiting and delighted to share it with our with our listening audience. I would love some time if it would serve you and if it would be appropriate. I think it might be cool to do like a live broadcast from the cigar bar sometime. That would be awesome. All right. So maybe maybe we’ll get that we’ll get that kind of thing put together. But thank you so much for investing the time to come down and hang out and visit. Thank you for having me. All right. Until next time. This is Stone Payton for our guest today, Harvey Birken with Maxwell Cigar Bar and everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying we’ll see you next time on Cherki Business Radio.