Madeline King with Closing with Madeline

Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Woodstock, Georgia. It’s time for Cherokee Business Radio. Now, here’s your host.

Stone Payton: [00:00:24] Welcome to another exciting and informative edition of Cherokee Business Radio. Stone Payton here with you this morning, and today’s episode is brought to you in part by Woodstock Neighbors magazine, bringing neighbors and business together. For more information, go to Facebook and Instagram at Woodstock Neighbors dot BVM. And if you have a heart for community and you want to grow your small business, consider joining our Community Impact program here locally, Main Street Warriors. Go check us out at mainstreetwarriors.org. You guys are in for a real treat this morning. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast Independent Transaction Coordinator, Ms. Madeline King. How are you?

Madeline King: [00:01:13] Well, I’m a little bit like, what am I doing? I’ve never done this before, but I’m great.

Stone Payton: [00:01:17] Well, we’re delighted to have you in studio. I’ve seen you around town, of course, uh, quite a bit at different functions and that kind of thing. But, uh, more recently, you and I have had a chance to go over to Vibe Realty, hang out with some folks, many of them in that real estate ecosystem, some of us not really. And I’ve really enjoyed that, that exchange. I feel like I learn a lot, and I feel like I learn a lot about my myself in that. But from from day one, uh, interacting with you there, I knew I wanted to have you in the studio, learn more about your work and your life, but maybe a good place to start is, uh, maybe you could explain what an independent transaction coordinator is. I think you’re our first one ever in 20 years of programing. Uh, but just a little bit about mission and purpose. What what you are really out there trying to do for folks?

Madeline King: [00:02:10] Yeah, that’s a great question. I get it all the time, especially when I go to the networking groups. They’re like, oh, what are they like here that I’m in real estate? And that’s about it. Are you an agent? What do you do? So I help agents. Um, why I specify independent is because I’m not with any specific brokerage. So I’m free to work with whoever needs my help, and we vibe together. Um, basically everybody, if you’re not in real estate, it gets a little convoluted. But basically, what you need to know is when an agent goes under contract, when they have someone go under contract, they need help. They’ve got a lot of paperwork they need to do a lot of, um, compliance. Legally that needs to be done. They’ve got to coordinate with all the parties, but really they also need to be building their business. And they don’t have time to do that when they’re working in a transaction like that. So when someone feels ready, they want to delegate, they’re going to delegate to a transaction coordinator. We have different names. Sometimes we go by closing coordinator. It’s the same thing. Um, and like I said, sometimes brokerage is higher. A transaction coordinator to be the person for, you know, if it’s a smaller brokerage, the whole place. But I really love being able to, you know, help whoever I want to help. I’m not pigeonholed into one specific brokerage. It also means I know a lot of systems and, um, and, and have had to kind of pivot. I’m really good at that. Um, and, uh, yeah, I think, I mean, besides, I mean providing for my family, right? Besides that, I love to help people. And that’s kind of been the history of any job that I’ve ever had. That’s what I’ve been doing. So it feels natural to me to want to help people. When I hear an agent say, oh, I’ve been knee deep in marketing. Sorry, I don’t, I don’t know. I’m like, well, that’s great to hear because that means that you have time to do it.

Stone Payton: [00:04:02] Yeah, that’s what you ought to be doing. Yeah, yeah. And let you I’ve always said, uh, you know, I would starve to death, I think as a, as or I thought I would as a, as a real estate person because I don’t like the prospecting of anything, which is why I have my own radio show and, uh, the paperwork, man, I’d starve to death with the with the paperwork. But you really take that. Take that off of them, don’t you? Yes.

Madeline King: [00:04:26] And, well, I do say for brand new agents, it is good for them to work a few transactions themselves so they can understand. And it’s good for them to know what the contracts say. Like that is their, their job. But yeah, when it’s okay I don’t. Where is your time best served. Is it best served looking over it with a fine tooth comb and making sure that the signature is where it needs to be? Not really. It’s it’s best meeting new people, growing your network, nurturing the people that you do know, and growing your business. I mean, we all need that, right? But this is just agent specific. When we have a business, we need to be growing it. Um, and I just help real estate agents.

Stone Payton: [00:05:04] So what’s the backstory? How did you get into this?

Madeline King: [00:05:06] Uh, well, I feel like I know the god, the universe, whatever you want to call it. Definitely brought this to me. I my journey into real estate was very interesting. I started I want to start with. Being in college and speaking to my generation, which you can call me millennial, whatever. I’m 32. Um, there was such a big push when I was in high school and beginning college. Like, what are you going to do? You need to know what you’re going to do. What are you going to do? There’s such a pressure there. And I felt the pressure. And to be honest with you, I just like learning. I didn’t know what I wanted to do. I ended up doing history. So I majored in world history and cultures because I just love history. But, you know, I kept getting the question, what are you going to do, teach? I’m like, I don’t know, maybe. Um, so after graduating, you know, I didn’t have an education degree, so I couldn’t just go teach. Uh, um, so I had to figure it out. And I ended up working for a nonprofit for almost six years, and it was such a growth experience, I war. Anybody who’s in a nonprofit knows you. Where? All of the hats. Okay, everybody in there is wearing all the hats. So, you know, I did advertising print and web, I did invoicing, I did membership coordination, I did sales, I mean, all of it. Um, when I was there, I knew, though, that that wasn’t where I was meant to be.

Madeline King: [00:06:36] I knew I needed to go somewhere else, and. I found a podcast that got me into real estate and a very yeah, wow. And a very niche part of real estate. I didn’t start with transaction coordination. I started flipping raw land. And that’s. Yeah, I see your eyes like, what is that? That’s the question I would get all the time. It’s, uh. I’m very grateful for that. I still have that business. I’m not working on it actively, just for different reasons. I felt like it wasn’t where my heart was. But it’s all meant to be. It was meant to get me into real estate. And now that I’m a transaction coordinator, it feels like that’s I’m there’s more more of the processes that I like. There’s more of the relationship. When I was flipping Raw Land, I was doing it. You know, we live in Georgia. I was doing it Arizona, Colorado, Florida. Um, and while I loved helping people, the there’s a certain level of, hey, I’m not a scam artist. And I’m and I feel like that’s not what I’m trying to do. That doesn’t make me happy to try to convince people that I’m not, you know, trying to hurt them. I’m trying to help them. So I think that’s what eventually got me to go. I don’t know if that’s what I want to do. Um, and transaction coordination, like I said, I think I found that on a podcast or something. I don’t I heard of it and I was like. Oh, I need to look into that, you know, and I just I did it, I ran with it.

Madeline King: [00:08:11] Um, there’s a lot of information out there that would discourage you from just going. Oh, I’ve never been a transaction coordinator. Let me just do it. Of course I took courses. Of course I learned, but I didn’t go join a team. I didn’t go do any of that. I just did it on my own. And it’s scary. I mean, you know, as a business owner, it’s like just starting from scratch. But when I look back, it’s like, well, I did it. I’m here still. So it must have worked somehow. But yeah, I think, man, if I could go back though and tell my younger self, like, stop stressing out so much, don’t listen to what everyone older than you has to say. It’s going to be okay, you know? And maybe if I had breathed, I, I know I can think back. There were opportunities to get into real estate. Oh back when I was in college before maybe after, I mean all throughout. And I ignored it, I ignored it, I was no, this is what I’m doing. No no no I don’t I can’t do that. It was very much like you said. You mentioned I just feel like I would struggle or, you know, there was this preconceived notion I’m not I’m not a real estate agent, you know? Yeah. And if I would have just listened, maybe I would have been doing this for ten years, you know, I don’t know. Um, but yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:09:29] So now that you’ve been at this a while, what’s the what’s the most rewarding part? What’s the most fun about it for you?

Madeline King: [00:09:35] Well, I do love to I don’t know, I’m an introvert extrovert. It’s odd. Um, I think I, I do like talking, I get, but I do recharge when I’m alone and I can, you know, just kind of disconnect. So I love being able to work from home, be my own boss. Um, go to the networking events, meet up with a client of mine or a prospective client, get to know them, but then come back to myself and my work and really help people with what I know how to do and the way that I’m doing it, um, getting them their time back, helping other entrepreneurs is essentially what I’m doing. Uh, because it’s tough. I mean, I don’t know the statistics, but the, the amount of real estate agents that don’t make it. I mean, there are a lot of licensed agents. Yeah. And I’m not going to pretend that no statistic. I’ve heard it. Um, but a lot of them don’t make it. And maybe some of them don’t make it because they need support. I don’t know, and I feel like I’m helping people who I see the potential in them. I’m betting on them. And I love hearing that. I’ve helped give them some of their time back.

Stone Payton: [00:10:44] So how do you get the the new business? Is it because you’re out there networking, building relationships? Is it a is it a hard sale or is it.

Madeline King: [00:10:55] It was at first like I was I mean, when you you don’t have a client yet. That’s the hardest part right?

Stone Payton: [00:11:00] Right.

Madeline King: [00:11:01] You get your first client and actually my first client love love love her. Um, I actually connected with her on Instagram, which is like, wild, right? I was trying all different sorts of things at first, and I saw her. I said, she seems like she has a really good energy. I don’t know, I’m going to reach out. She was brand new. I didn’t know that. Right. So she decided to take a chance on me. I took a chance on her, so to speak. We all, you know, it was great. Now, I would say I mostly it’s referrals or meeting people at networking events. Yeah. Um, but referrals is is the best or or the best is when you work with, um, your agent and the agent on the other side of the deal, you know, that’s a strategy to reach out to them and say, hey, I really enjoyed working with you. Thanks for your help getting you. Go to the closing table. Let me know if you ever want to chat about my services. And you know it doesn’t work every time, and I don’t want to send it to every agent I’ve ever worked with. But would it? You know, it has worked. That’s a huge compliment. So I think, yeah, it’s really hard at first. But now networking. Yeah, I mean I it doesn’t matter what business you’re in it. What is that phrase your, your net work is your net worth. I mean it can be. Yeah. Right. You really if you use it, if you’re consistent and you foster those relationships.

Stone Payton: [00:12:21] So you sound pretty self-taught to me. But have you had the benefit of a mentor or two along the along the ride, if not in the domain itself, just in running a business?

Madeline King: [00:12:35] Not really. I mean, I my mother is an audiologist and own her own business for I think 25 years. So I saw that. Right, right. My dad is also an entrepreneur. I mean, so I think I grew up seeing that maybe, um, that that’s helpful. I really think the internet is just. A huge. Wealth of information, obviously, if you know how to use it. I mean, on Facebook, for instance, there are groups out there with transaction coordinators by and for them that get to collaborate, ask questions. You know, so I have like connected with people from that way. But I would say yeah I would love a mentor though. Like somebody that just somebody to collaborate with. Um, yeah. And I and I find that even some of my clients that I really connect with and we’re almost like, we’re friends and they’re my client, I do collaborate with them. So. Yeah, but I guess you’re making me realize, like, I really am self-taught, which is kind of wild. Like, I don’t do it the easy way. Like I’m going to just.

Stone Payton: [00:13:43] Maybe you’re just going to skip over that step and just maybe be a mentor.

Madeline King: [00:13:47] I would love to be a mentor. Yeah. I mean, there have been, um, most recently there was a TC out in Tennessee, and I saw her post in one of those groups and she was just, hey, I’m trying to get started, you know, asking advice. And I saw some not so nice comments. I mean, people who are look, it’s kind of like when somebody’s been doing it for ten years, whatever it is, they’re going to go, why do you think you can just do it? And that is why I didn’t ask their advice when I was brand new, because I’m like, I don’t need to hear that. Where did you start? Like, everyone started somewhere.

Stone Payton: [00:14:21] Sure.

Madeline King: [00:14:21] Why are we going to put each other down? So I reached out to her or I commented and I said, oh, I use this and this. Let me know if you need anything. And she did. She reached out and we connected and I gave her some resources like, I’m not going to hoard. What is the point of me hoarding this information like was the software I use. And let me give you a sample of my checklist. That’s fine. I mean, some people would disagree with me, but yeah, I think it it feels good to be able to help whatever entrepreneur I can, any person I can on their journey.

Stone Payton: [00:14:52] So any designs on eventually building this thing out and having the Madeleine King Transaction Agency or something like where you have or do you just kind of really enjoy being this one person shop for now, I.

Madeline King: [00:15:05] Do I do have aspirations to do that. It’s, you know, my business is called closing with Madeleine. However, my my name tag says Madeleine King, transaction coordinator. The reason is because sometimes people look at it and see, oh, is she an agent? Because it sounds like I could be a real estate agent. Anyway, so the closing with Madeleine, my business, yes, I want my dream is to have a couple of at least an admin person helping me and then can add on some with it. Um, I’m in the process of getting my real estate license, so that’s going to help me in my business, because there are certain things you can’t do and say if you are not licensed and you are helping in a transaction. So it’s going to help open up a lot of, right, a lot of things, including growing my business. Yeah. So yes I do.

Stone Payton: [00:15:56] Well, good. Well I’m interested in following that story. So we’ll have to have you back in as you continue to navigate that, that terrain. And maybe you’ll have the, you know, the King methodology, the, the the MK methodology for transaction. Because I mean, you’ve you’ve got processes and systems. You’ve you’re building this machinery, this machinery out. Right.

Madeline King: [00:16:17] It’s a process for sure. It changes every day. Yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:16:19] So uh, passions, interests, hobbies, pursuits outside the scope of this work. Yeah. You know, a lot of my listeners know I like to hunt, fish and travel. Yeah. So. So that’s my thing. But how about you?

Madeline King: [00:16:32] Oh my gosh. Well, we have I. So I married my husband’s name is Chase. I have two little girls, Lucy and Della.

Stone Payton: [00:16:39] Oh, you can’t have hobbies for your 15 years out, right?

Madeline King: [00:16:43] No. I mean, yeah, this season of life has definitely it’s it’s challenging. It’s like you want to soak it up. But Chase and I love to travel. We love to camp, we love to hike. And we haven’t done as much of that. I mean, but I can see it’s not 15 years. I think maybe like a year, maybe we’re just going to do it. You know, my husband is a fine artist and he is just decided to be full time. So I’m very excited for him. I feel like I’m passionate about that, other than, you know, traveling and hiking and camping and being with my family, um, I’m passionate about seeing him grow too, so.

Stone Payton: [00:17:24] All right, so say a little bit more about the word. Let’s back up. You, uh, you’ve been referred in or you a brand new relationship, uh, from a networking or whatever. And then. So what happens? First, you probably don’t have to explain a lot about what you do. Right? For somebody that’s been in the business a little bit or do you, do you I.

Madeline King: [00:17:43] Do, I would say I do even for, um, a seasoned agent. Okay. Some agents have never had help, which I’m, I’m like, that’s amazing. Yeah. I’m like, I know some top reducing agents that have never had one or didn’t have one for. Years and now have won. And yeah, what have I been doing this whole time? So yes. And even if they’ve had a TC before, they’ll still be like, well what what do you offer. Because. Different they different transaction coordinators do different things. Some of them will schedule an inspection. Some of them won’t. There’s different price points. So yeah I still think I do. You know someone gets referred to me. The first thing I’m going to do is to have a discovery call, have a one on one, get a coffee, something where we can talk about. I want to hear what their pain points are. First of all, what are you struggling with? What’s why are you interested in having a transaction coordinator? Sometimes they have no idea. They’re like, I don’t know, I just need help. Like, I’m I’m really busy, I don’t know. And some of them are very clear. Like, I hate contracts, I hate it, I don’t I hate chasing down signatures and doing all that. Um, you know, or some of them are like, well, I’m really I’m really not great at reminding my clients what needs to be done. So it’s as simple as me sending an email, hey, we’re getting close to your closing date. Remember, it’s at this time, this place, here’s the vendor information. Here’s you need to bring your ID, things like that. So I think it differs from agent to agent what they need. And they’re always curious what I have to offer.

Stone Payton: [00:19:14] Right. But it’s not just like a menu with popcorn and fries and salad on it. I mean, you’re sitting down. It’s you’re it’s a very it’s funny, the word transaction is in the name of your business, the name of what you do. But it’s it’s not a transactional situation for you with the it’s a very it’s very grounded in relationship and genuinely understanding how you can serve them. That’s an interesting.

Madeline King: [00:19:38] Maybe I need to rename that position for sure. I mean, I would say I offer personalized transaction coordination. Um, yeah. There are companies out there. You can get someone overseas to do it. I mean, it’s really up to what your preference is, right? I would say the agents that I work with want someone that they can text with, if that’s their preferred communication, you know, someone that they can communicate with that feels like they’re on their team. That’s that’s I think why I’m different and what I have to offer. I mean, I mean, even just, you know, communicating with them daily, but even branding my signature for them. So, you know, I have you know, the one you saw is my just independent transaction coordinator. Right, right. Signature. Um, but when I’m working with a specific agent, I will use their logo and say transaction to transaction coordinator for whoever it is. Um, I like that transaction later.

Stone Payton: [00:20:31] That might be your new, you know.

Madeline King: [00:20:33] Did I say that I know.

Stone Payton: [00:20:35] Oh, God. Oh, that’s.

Madeline King: [00:20:37] Funny. Relationship court. No, I don’t know. I’ll figure it.

Stone Payton: [00:20:39] Out, but but no, it’s, uh, I think it’s an important distinction in something for for you and your clients and your prospective clients to understand the, the relationship you have with the agent. I mean, that’s deep and wide. And you may do something very different for real estate agent Stone than real estate agent Mary. We may need, need and want different things. Yeah.

Madeline King: [00:20:59] So, for instance, I had one of my newer clients that I coped with, uh, meaning they worked on the other side and said, yes, I want to work with you, which was sweet. That was the I was like, crying with happiness. I was like, this is amazing. They were someone who’s been very successful, has never had a TC and like, they know what they’re doing. And so it was a little she’s there like, you’re gonna have to work with me. Um, I want you to help me. I just I don’t want you to communicate with my buyer. Okay, great. That’s fine. Honestly, that makes it easier for me. I’m not doing as much. Um, so. Yeah, there there’s certain things that you can tailor to to their preferences and what they need.

Stone Payton: [00:21:39] Yeah. All right, before we wrap, I wonder if you could share with our listening audience so many of the folks who tap into to our work are in business for themselves or they’re aspiring entrepreneurs, just maybe I call them pro tips. Just a few pro tips, not necessarily about your business, but just, you know, running your own thing. Some things you’ve learned, I don’t know, maybe if you’re open to it, you know, maybe when you fell and scratched your knee up a little bit. But some things that maybe out of that you’ve, you’ve established some working disciplines or some do’s or some don’ts or, or uh, and also, yeah, you know, maybe anything you’re reading or, uh.

Madeline King: [00:22:17] I always love those questions. Yeah. No, I love this. Um, go for it. You know, I mean, my husband and I are entrepreneurs, but that’s not what we were told to do, right? Kind of going back to what I was saying, I think, I don’t know the way it is now because I’m not 18 anymore, but I’m assuming there’s still a lot of pressure to go to college, get the corporate job, whatever it is, you have to provide for your family. So that means that you have to work a 9 to 5. Well, no it doesn’t. So I think educating yourself and believing in yourself, knowing that it isn’t just what somebody told you it needs to be. It can be whatever you want it to be. Whatever your dream is, it’s not impossible. I mean. I mean, I don’t even have to give you an example. There’s. I mean, I’ll give a silly example. There are people making money off of making videos of them getting ready. I mean, I don’t know, like, right, if we can make money from that, can’t we make money from anything? Um, so, you know, to just go after what, what you want and take it from me. Like, you can start from square one.

Madeline King: [00:23:25] You don’t have to be in it if you want to be in an industry and you don’t know anything about it, go learn about it. I mean, there’s so many resources out there. There’s so many people and the people that don’t want to help you get run away from them. Don’t don’t listen to them. You know you can’t do it. I’ve been doing it for so long. That’s not true. Don’t listen. Just. Yeah, finding somebody. And those networking groups are very supportive. So finding groups with like minded people that fit your vibe, you know, you like their energy and what they have to say and they’re supportive with you. Um, and I would also say, I mean, the scraping my knee thing. Yeah. I mean, just because I’ve been it hasn’t been all rainbows, right? Right. No. Definitely not. I mean, it’s same thing, like people telling you you can’t do it. Family being like, oh, you’re quitting. You’re quitting your job. Okay, well, how are y’all going to. What about insurance? What about that? We’re figuring it out. You figure it out. And I think that’s it’s it can be scary to take a leap, but I think taking a leap is going to save your life.

Stone Payton: [00:24:33] And incredibly emotionally rewarding, too, right? Like, all of the compensation isn’t monetary, right? Right. At least for me anyway, right?

Madeline King: [00:24:40] Oh, and I guess I will say, if you want to own your business and work from home and all the things you do have to have a level of drive and discipline. I mean, you don’t have to be the most structured person ever. You don’t. Every day doesn’t have to look the same. You do have to be motivated to do things that need to be done. Although I will say, when I first started networking, I went hard and I went to everyone. Every week I got burnt out. And then I realized, yeah, there’s like such a thing as doing too much. And then I realized, okay, I need to pick the ones that I really love, and I make time for those, and I’m consistent with those and keeping those relationships up.

Stone Payton: [00:25:20] So and it sounds like like you have found, as I have, but particularly in this community, and I’m a little longer in the tooth than Madeleine is, I’ve been been around a little bit longer. Uh, but this community in particular, I find when I do drop in on a group or two, you know, I go to young professionals of Woodstock and they’re all in walking distance or golf cart distance for me. So that’s my criteria, the golf. Right. And maybe I need to go to this Monday morning thing that they do over there. I haven’t been but this golf cart. So you know, it fits the criteria.

Madeline King: [00:25:50] Monday morning brews meets at 8 a.m. every Monday at the Starbucks in Adair Park. It’s a great group. Yes, you should come, Stone. All right.

Stone Payton: [00:25:58] I’m gonna slide by that, do that. But my experience has been that people are in those groups, for the most part, are so genuinely invested in trying to help me like they’re they’re the number one thing on their agenda is not to try to figure out how to sell me something. They’re genuinely interested. They want to know what they can do to to support what I’m what I’m doing. And I, um, I think you’ll, I, I’m sure as you reach out and try to cultivate relationships with people like that and you genuinely try to serve them, I’m sure you will run across people who are very transactional about them, but overwhelmingly, particularly in this community. For me, it’s just a very supportive community, isn’t it?

Madeline King: [00:26:42] Yes. No, 100%. I’ve I’ve met a good friend of mine networking and I she is a networking queen. So if I’m like, oh, I need this, I need this vendor, I will just text her and she inevitably knows someone I didn’t know, you know. Yeah, no, I agree with you. I think, of course there are people out there that maybe aren’t like that, but the majority of them want to help.

Stone Payton: [00:27:01] They are. And then what I have found, I really enjoy on the other side of that coin, being the guy that knows the guy. Yeah. Right. Like to me, I talk about and I called it non-monetary compensation. But, you know, somehow sometimes the money finds it may not be a straight line. It’ll find its way back to me. Yes. I love someone coming to me for something that doesn’t have anything to do with marketing, consulting, radio or whatever. I’m like, oh, yeah, you want to talk to Joe or Mary or Susie or.

Madeline King: [00:27:27] I love that.

Stone Payton: [00:27:27] Too. I love being that guy. You know.

Madeline King: [00:27:29] When that makes me think about the vibe mastermind, thinking about what are my motivations behind that. But in general, it makes me feel good to be like, oh, well, I know an inspector, I got you. They’re great, you know, or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, well, and I.

Stone Payton: [00:27:42] Bet you do. By by now, you probably know a lot of folks in that whole ecosystem, not just real estate folks. Right? Yeah. All these home services folks, the inspectors, the. Yeah. Yeah. How cool is that? It is.

Madeline King: [00:27:54] So it feels good to be able to help other people.

Stone Payton: [00:27:56] It does. Well, it has been an. Absolute delight having you in the studio, and I’m quite sincere. I think we ought to check in periodically and you let us know what’s going on in the. Because it sounds to me like you’re at the epicenter of this real estate world.

Madeline King: [00:28:13] Oh, yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:28:14] It’d be good to have you, like, come in and report on the the state of the Union on Woodstock in Cherokee, I love it.

Madeline King: [00:28:20] Well, I will say the market is definitely heating up. As soon as the new year hit, it was like, boom! Everybody all of a sudden you see lines around the street because of the open house. Got multiple offers. Yeah, I think there’s a yeah. And when I get licensed I’ll be able to speak even more to that. I would love to come back. I’ll take my husband next time.

Stone Payton: [00:28:38] There you go. Oh, no. We got to talk to him. Yeah, well, and that’s another thing that that I thought of when you were when you were describing it. And I have been so blessed. My wife has a real job now. She is threatening to hang up her cleats pretty soon. So, uh, but she has been so supportive for 30 plus years, I would think that it would be not insurmountable, but definitely a great deal more challenging to be an entrepreneur. Uh, you know, you mentioned family, but if your spouse weren’t supportive of that, yes. It sounds like you have that as well. Oh, yeah.

Madeline King: [00:29:10] We both been very, very supportive of.

Stone Payton: [00:29:12] What he’s of what he’s doing.

Madeline King: [00:29:13] Oh, 100%. Yeah. More to come on that. Yeah sure.

Stone Payton: [00:29:17] All right. Well we’ll get Jason here and get his perspective on it too. That’ll be love that that would be great. All right. What’s the best way for those who are listening to connect with you. Those who just want to have a conversation with you in general. But I’m thinking in particular, maybe agents that are like, you know, yeah, maybe I need to talk to her kind of thing. What’s the what are some whatever you’re comfortable with, whether it’s LinkedIn, email, whatever.

Madeline King: [00:29:37] I mean, really phone, text, email, my Instagram DM, my Facebook DM, I mean, whatever’s easy for them.

Stone Payton: [00:29:44] All right. Well, yeah, lay some of those coordinates out for them and we’ll make sure we publish it.

Madeline King: [00:29:49] Okay. Well, my email is Madeline H. King at gmail. Super easy. My phone number is (404) 409-6968. And yeah, if you see closing with Madeline on Instagram, it’s it’s literally just closing with Madeline, Instagram or Facebook. You can reach out to me there as well.

Stone Payton: [00:30:08] So that gang, if you want to get a pretty girl’s phone number, just get yourself a radio show.

Madeline King: [00:30:12] That’s hilarious I know right? Did I just say my phone number?

Stone Payton: [00:30:16] Boom.

Madeline King: [00:30:16] It’s out there anyway.

Stone Payton: [00:30:17] Well, thank you so much. You’re doing important work and we sure appreciate you. Thanks for.

Madeline King: [00:30:21] Having me.

Stone Payton: [00:30:22] My pleasure. All right, until next time. This is Stone Payton for our guest today, Madeline King, independent transaction Coordinator, and everyone here at the Business Radio X family saying, we’ll see you again on Cherokee Business Radio.