Actor Reggie Harper

Intro: Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Woodstock, Georgia. This is fearless formula with Sharon Cline.

Sharon Cline: Welcome to Fearless Formula on Business RadioX, where we talk about the ups and downs of the business world and offer words of wisdom for business success. I am your host, Sharon Cline. And today in the studio we have an actor and entertainer at East Coast Talent Agency. He went to Ohio State University. He got his bachelor’s in theater. This is serious. He was on a show with me. My very first show. Fatal attraction, very happy to have in the studio Reggie Harper.

Reggie Harper: Sharon, thank you so much for that introduction. And thank you for having me here.

Sharon Cline: You are welcome. I’m excited to talk to you for several reasons. One is that I wanted to thank you because you were just so much fun to work with on on our show, which comes out in April. Oh, thanks. You play the how do you describe how you who you play.

Reggie Harper: Not describing him. I play a man dealing with substance abuse issues and a very volatile person. I’m trying to make sure I describe this man with dignity, because even though he did some bad things, he still he was a real person and he has a real history. So I’m trying to be very delicate with.

Sharon Cline: It’s very smart because this is a real case and it deserves like that sort of sacred attention to it. And these were real people, real lives. We were talking before the show about looking at characters as the human side of them, whether they’re a character you love or don’t, good characters and bad characters all have all of those ranges of emotions. And to be able to identify the human side of a character that maybe you wouldn’t naturally be in real life. Obviously that’s what acting is, but it allows you to identify with the the human side.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, absolutely. I don’t believe any of us are born evil or, you know, born bad. But, you know, things happen to us through our life. And some people, they deal with it. You know, the way they deal with it, sometimes they suppress certain things, or sometimes they let it eat at them and.

Sharon Cline: And haunt them. Right?

Reggie Harper: And haunt them.

Sharon Cline: Yeah.

Reggie Harper: And sometimes they express it. They express their pain by dishing out pain to, you know, people around them. You know the old saying hurt people. Hurt people. It’s. But I believe that’s a very true saying, you know.

Sharon Cline: Absolutely. Well, let’s go back to the fact that you were at Ohio State University.

Reggie Harper: And before we go any further, let me know, because anybody from the Ohio State University that’s listening to this or will hear this, will want me to make sure I make it clear that it’s the Ohio State University.

Sharon Cline: It’s not just Ohio State.

Reggie Harper: No, no. Absolutely not.

Sharon Cline: I’ve been saying it wrong my whole life. Who knows how I’ve offended people? It’s the.

Reggie Harper: Yes. You have to be sure to put thee in front of. Okay. So state. Okay.

Sharon Cline: So you went to the Ohio State University?

Reggie Harper: Yes.

Sharon Cline: Nice. Proud of myself. Um, how did you get from the Ohio State University to Georgia?

Reggie Harper: So I was attending the Ohio State University, uh, to get my bachelor’s in theater. And my initial initially, I wanted to move out to California or New York, but I was persuaded to move here to Atlanta in order to build my experience up first in theater or TV film, because, you know, they had just started. This was around 2008, 2009. They had just started doing a lot of filming in the South. So that’s how I came here. Um, just stayed. I did go to New York for about a year at one time, but I don’t know. Atlanta is just it got its hooks in me and I couldn’t escape.

Sharon Cline: Did you always want to be an actor?

Reggie Harper: I think I’ve always been an actor.

Sharon Cline: Ooh. Oh, damn. That was deep.

Reggie Harper: Well, you know, when you asked me that, I had to reflect for a second, like. Well, ever since I was a child, I’ve always been performing, you know, whether it was scripted or not, I don’t know, I think I’ve always been an actor. I think we’re all actors because we all have to play certain roles. But yeah, I think I’ve always been an actor. I just finally went to school to do it, so I don’t know if it was a conscious choice to be an actor or just a natural thing.

Sharon Cline: So when you got here to Atlanta and then you saw all the different opportunities that were happening, I saw that you were in three day weekend, which is it’s a movie, right? Or a short.

Reggie Harper: It was a short. And, um.

Sharon Cline: Is that like one of the first things that you did?

Reggie Harper: It was one of the first things I did and I forgot I was I don’t remember I don’t remember what I did in that movie. Oh, wait a minute. I was a bad guy in that movie.

Sharon Cline: Thank you. Yeah, that’s so funny, because I’m the same where I can’t remember all of the different jobs that I’ve done in terms of, you know, voiceovers or whatever. I have a list so that I can go back and go like, yeah, I forgot about that one. I just don’t live in that space.

Reggie Harper: Yeah. Um, and now, you know, I’m thinking more about three day weekend. I honestly don’t remember what I did in that, in that I was something. What does it say on the.

Sharon Cline: Oh, I should go back to your IMDb page and see. Well, you were also on something called Rear Truth. You were on Day of Vengeance. These are like the earlier projects that you worked on. And then lately you’ve been on Fatal Attraction, homicide, Hunter, ATL, homicide, Justice, by Any Means, and Your Worst Nightmare. All the good true crime reenactment shows that I am addicted to. No, seriously, it’s kind of. I mean, they’re all amazing, but you’ve been able to really get quite a resume.

Reggie Harper: Yes. And that resume actually should be. The list should be a little longer. I haven’t had that updated in years. And I keep saying I’m gonna do it. And I promise 2025 I’m going to make sure.

Sharon Cline: Okay.

Reggie Harper: All my work is listed because I’m doing a disservice to myself, I think by not having my most current projects listed on there.

Sharon Cline: You’re worth celebrating for those for sure.

Reggie Harper: Yeah. You know, I saw I do stand up comedy as well.

Sharon Cline: Well, look at that.

Reggie Harper: Um, people used to tell me all the time like, hey, man, why don’t you? You need to be leveraging the, the, the true crime stuff you’ve done to help boost your comedy career. I just don’t know how to do that because they’re totally polar opposites of each other. You know, the stuff that we do is real life or the stuff what we did together was depiction of.

Sharon Cline: A real.

Reggie Harper: Life, a real life thing, which it was tragic. So I just don’t know how I haven’t figured out how to. I can make a joke about that, maybe in one of my stand up routines. But as far as like using true crime to.

Sharon Cline: To make people laugh feels feels wrong in some.

Reggie Harper: Ways. Yeah.

Sharon Cline: Disrespectful.

Reggie Harper: Yeah.

Sharon Cline: I get that. I’m there’s probably some tropes, I guess, regarding true crime things that would be kind of funny to highlight, but you’re right. I like the notion of something being opposite. Opposite of comedy, obviously, is like the true crime things. They’re they don’t seem like they would relate, but somehow relating them would actually be interesting and funny.

Reggie Harper: But as a comedian, I shouldn’t have a problem doing it.

Sharon Cline: You should get it together.

Reggie Harper: I know. Yeah. You’re right.

Sharon Cline: I mean, on my own show.

Reggie Harper: No, the truth hurts.

Sharon Cline: No.

Reggie Harper: And I’m here for the pain.

Sharon Cline: No, this is no pain. This is all good and fun. Well, actually, before the show, we were talking. There’s such a depth to you, which I really appreciate. And we were talking about how when you’re studying why people do what they do, it really lends well to being able to be compassionate toward any character that you’re playing.

Reggie Harper: Oh, yeah. For sure. Like I, like I mentioned earlier, I don’t believe any of us are born evil or bad. Um, and I think it’s important to remember that, um, we’re all human. And, you know, we all have a story. Some people were able to cope and, I don’t know, deal with their traumas in a certain way. And some people were not able to cope or are not able to and choose to share their pain in ways that shouldn’t be shared.

Sharon Cline: Is there a role that you particularly loved that you were just like, this is why I am here. This is this is why I’m an actor.

Reggie Harper: I don’t have a there’s not one specific role where it was like, I wish, I wish I could say there was, but each role is, I don’t know. I have like I learned something from every role and I appreciate every role. And it’s kind of like, I don’t know, one row helps me with the with the next. Each row helps me with the next in some kind of way. So maybe the answer to that is my last one I did with you. Like everyone I do, every thing I’ve done like that, the last one. That’s why I do the acting. Because it’s all fulfilling. It’s very fulfilling. If I could do acting for free, if I. If my bills were paid and I could just act for free, I would act in community theater. I would act wherever just to act, because I love that connection. You, you, you can make with the character, the connection you can make with an audience, especially if you’re doing live theater. To me, live theater is actually more fulfilling than TV and film much more.

Sharon Cline: I did a play about three years ago, almost four years ago now in canton, and it’s the first thing I had done since in like 20 years, and I had forgotten how much I loved it. And I got to have an accent and it was great.

Reggie Harper: That’s always fun, right?

Sharon Cline: Well, it was a comedy too. So if at any time I delivered a line and people, like laughed, it felt like, well, damn. Heck, yeah. It just was so immediately satisfying. Is that what you’re. What you think it’s like?

Reggie Harper: Oh, yeah. For sure. Getting a reaction out of out of people. Which another reason why I love doing stand up. Because it’s all about getting the reaction. Um, but, you know, to go back to the question you asked me a little while ago.

Sharon Cline: What was that one?

Reggie Harper: I forget about the moment where I’m like, yeah, this is why I, you know, one time I was at I wasn’t actively in anything at the time, but I had been away from even stand up. But I went to, uh, a show and I forgot what the name of the show was. Um, but I remember just thinking, this is why I love theater. This is why I love acting.

Sharon Cline: You felt the energy of it.

Reggie Harper: I felt it. Mhm. Most definitely I felt it. And it actually brought me back to doing some more stuff because I had forgot I got so caught up in real life that I forgot my passion and why I like performing.

Sharon Cline: I think that’s very important to note because that’s partly why I do this show. So many people get, including myself, get caught up in the tasks of living and supporting yourself, that there’s a part of you that can kind of wither away. And and I love that you had a moment where you kind of were reminded and it touched your soul. Um, yeah. Because I think that’s what I don’t I don’t know, to me, if you have those reactions, I always think that that means that you’re on the right track somewhere.

Reggie Harper: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, we only get to do this one time, this life, as far as we know. Um, so, I mean, make the most of it. And if something makes you feel good or is gratifying. Yeah. And happy and it’s not, you know, um, hurting anybody. Then by all means, do it.

Sharon Cline: Did you always want to be a comedian as well? Like, how did that whole part of your life happen?

Reggie Harper: Um, I was, so I lived in England as a child, and I remember one time I was always a class clown, but I didn’t want to be a comedian. And I remember this, this young English. This English girl was like, you’re going to be a comedian when you get older. I didn’t even know what she really meant by that. And and I always thought about that as I got older and, um, started paying attention to stand up. Um, I think when I was in high school was when I told myself that, yeah, I’m going to be a comedian one day. But that was ages ago. I didn’t actually do it until it’s been about 10 or 11 years. But, um, when Comedy Central first came out at night, I would go to sleep to that, uh, as a child, as a teenager. And I don’t know, I just thought it was amazing to see these guys be able to go on stage and make a whole room of strangers laugh and make me laugh at home as well.

Sharon Cline: And they’re so smooth about it.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, but, you know, there’s a lot that goes into that. Like, it’s not what people think. You don’t just go on stage and. And even I didn’t realize what it’s almost even with acting, I’m sure from the outside looking in, before you start getting into acting, you had your your perception of it. Yeah. And once you get into it, you’re like, wait a minute. This it’s kind of like what I thought, but there’s a lot extra that I didn’t realize went into this. It’s the same with stand up comedy. You know, a lot of people who are not in it, they think that the comedians just get on stage. A lot of times and just make up what they’re doing as they go along, which is part of the craft of doing stand up. It’s it’s supposed to look like that. But I would say for the majority of the comedians, professional or even amateur, I mean, they. Well, if you’re professional, you’ve practiced these same jokes over and over and over again. And there’s a lot of work that goes into it and it’s not. There are some parts of a show that are ad libbed, right?

Sharon Cline: Like when you’re interacting with the crowd, especially that.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, you might think of a joke while you’re on stage and tell it, but it’s it’s rehearsed.

Sharon Cline: So it’s scripted like a play for sure.

Reggie Harper: And and sometimes if you’re not careful as a comedian, you can let something throw you off. And you were so stuck on the script how you had scripted it out before you got on stage that it just completely. Oh, no. Yeah, I’ve seen it happen to well, it’s happened to me, but I’ve also seen it happen to other comedians.

Sharon Cline: Where do you perform?

Reggie Harper: Um, wherever I can, really. But mostly in Georgia. Uh, Alabama. Tennessee, Florida.

Sharon Cline: You’re all over. I didn’t even.

Reggie Harper: Know I have been all over. There’s some other states, too. I’ve performed in California, New York, um, just wherever I can. Um, it’s getting a little bit harder because it’s like there’s so many comedians out there now or people that say they’re comedians. Yeah. And sometimes, sometimes I’m like, man, you probably need to. You need to go back and rewrite. You’re making it. You’re making comedy look bad. You’re running around saying, you’re a comedian and you’re not funny at all, and you’re not even taking the time to learn the craft. And it just for like people, comedians that take it serious, it is so irritating. It’s almost like there’s everybody’s a rapper. No, you’re not like you might have wrote a rapper to maybe your neighborhood knows you, but that doesn’t until you’re actually really doing it out there regularly.

Sharon Cline: You’re still you’re just playing around.

Reggie Harper: You’re just playing around. Yeah. And not that I’m, I’m not a household name or anything like that, but I’ve been paying dues and I continue to keep paying until that time comes, you know. And if it don’t come, that’s fine because I’m really enjoying it. I don’t do anything that I don’t want to do and I enjoy doing it all. So, you know.

Sharon Cline: Isn’t that great though. Just that statement. You get to do what you love, the freedom to do what you love.

Reggie Harper: It’s awesome.

Sharon Cline: That’s a gift.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, it hasn’t always been there, so I don’t take it lightly. Very appreciative.

Sharon Cline: So who are your comedians that you kind of looked up to and and thought, well, you know, I’d like to be somewhat like them.

Reggie Harper: George Carlin, Richard Pryor.

Sharon Cline: The greats.

Reggie Harper: The greats, of course. Yeah. Almost every comedian, almost every comedian is going to name Richard Pryor or George Carlin. But yeah, I was watching George Carlin live at Carnegie Hall. This is the moment that I was like, I really got hooked into comedy. I think it was like 1984. I was a little kid and I seen George Carlin didn’t know who he was, but he. I watched him do Carlin at Carnegie, and I was just hooked on comedy After that. It’s like stand up not just being a funny person, but stand up comedy.

Sharon Cline: Yeah, his his comedy was so had such depth to it as well. And it was such storytelling with it. It wasn’t just trying to make someone laugh like one liners, it was really.

Reggie Harper: And they had points.

Sharon Cline: Yeah, they had deep points. Yeah.

Reggie Harper: Even if you didn’t like him or his position, you know, you still had to be like, wow, I didn’t really think about it like that. And you do have a point there.

Sharon Cline: Yeah. Because he could be obviously very political and controversial.

Reggie Harper: Very.

Sharon Cline: But he would have reasons behind it. So you’d listen and it would be funny as he’s telling a story. You know, he reminds me of that is Bill Burr. He’s very much like that right now. He has his stories, you know, but he’ll have a reason why he says what he says. And he can be very controversial, too. Sometimes I’m like, I can’t believe he said that out loud. Like twice, you know, reiterated it. So. Yeah, but.

Reggie Harper: Bill Burr is one of my favorites.

Sharon Cline: You either obviously they can be very polarizing, but, um, interesting to kind of get the vibe of what what you find interesting as your as your kind of comedy platform.

Reggie Harper: Well, yeah. Um, and one thing that I didn’t realize about George Carlin until I got older was the use of his voice as an instrument, because he also has a nice voice for doing what he did. Also, I did some research on him and kind of found out that I believe his his father, like he had some type of connection to like the radio voice or something.

Sharon Cline: So you know that.

Reggie Harper: Mhm. So um, I don’t know. They just gave me a deeper appreciation for his craft or his.

Sharon Cline: Yeah. The presence of being on the stage wasn’t just what he was saying but his voice.

Reggie Harper: Yeah his voice as well. And it made me think like that. That’s part of it. I mean, that’s part of the package. Yeah.

Sharon Cline: Because even Bill Burr will start to, like, yell, you know what I mean? I mean, I don’t know. Or you listen to someone. Who else? John Mulaney, he’s got a whole kind of way. He uses his voice and the cadence of his speech.

Reggie Harper: It’s. Yeah, it’s I mean, it’s part of the, the the shtick or the act or whatever, but it’s part of the package.

Sharon Cline: Um, how.

Reggie Harper: Does that.

Sharon Cline: How does that being a comedian lend into your acting life, though? So do you want to choose roles that allow you to be a comedian? In some ways?

Reggie Harper: Um, not when it comes to acting. I really only want to be a let me take that back. I prefer doing like dramatic roles when it comes to like TV or film for stage theater. I like doing comedy, and I wouldn’t mind doing comedy for like TV or film if it’s a funny, if it’s funny, but I prefer like for comedy. For me being funny, I just prefer to do stand up. Mhm.

Sharon Cline: So you’re actively doing stand up these days like so I could get a group of friends to come and cheer you on.

Reggie Harper: I haven’t done stand up in since 2024. The next time I’m going to do stand up is July in Little Rock, Arkansas. Oh. Um, I had.

Sharon Cline: A road trip that we’re talking.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, well, I’ve had I had life last year that that got in the way. And I’m doing things right now that have taken my focus away from entertainment. That ends in April. And matter of fact, two and a half weeks to be exact. So I’ll be able to get back, um, into the comedy clubs and open mics to try new jokes out. Um, but yeah, I’m only booked right now for July.

Sharon Cline: All right.

Reggie Harper: That’s going to change.

Sharon Cline: Yeah, I was going to say just for right now.

Reggie Harper: Just for right now. That is definitely, definitely going to change.

Sharon Cline: So in the meantime, you get to still be doing your more dramatic acting like what we did with our show. What are some of the projects you’ve been working on lately?

Reggie Harper: Lately there’s not a project other than that one. Yeah, because I’m just I’m trying to put things in place in my personal life so that I can get back focused on the the other things that I love, which is entertainment.

Sharon Cline: So how what is it about your personality that allows you to follow your dream, and even spend the time to set up your life to be able to follow your dream more thoroughly when so many other people allow other aspects of life to keep them in their routine.

Reggie Harper: It’s about, in my opinion, it’s just about your priorities and also thinking long term, making decisions, long range decisions and sacrificing, you know, so that you can do what you want to do later.

Sharon Cline: Where does fear play in your life?

Reggie Harper: Fear can be a great motivating factor, or it can be a debilitating, um, the very first, the most afraid I’ve ever been in my life, literally. And I’ve been lost on the border of Iraq, in Kuwait when I was in the military.

Sharon Cline: And thank you for your service.

Reggie Harper: Oh. Thank you. But doing stand up comedy for the very first time is probably not. Probably was the most scared I’ve ever been, and I’ve had a gun put to my head. I’ve had all types of goofy stuff happen to me when I was younger, been in goofy situations, but for some reason, doing stand up comedy that first time was like I was sweating bullets. My shirt was like soaked. Before I even got to the stage. I kept thinking, like, I’m gonna forget what I’m supposed to say. It was. It was terrible. It was terrible.

Sharon Cline: How did it go? I’m like, scared to ask, you know?

Reggie Harper: It actually went well. The first 30s was like, I started looking for the exit. But after that, you know. So what happened was I wrote out my jokes and all that, and I tried to do them the way I wrote them and it wasn’t working. So after I got my first laugh, I got a little more comfortable. And as I went on, I realized I started being more me and not the words I had wrote down. And I went into a zone. And this is really weird because it doesn’t happen often, or it hasn’t happened often to me, but I went into a zone and I don’t know, it was like it was surreal and I’ve never felt that since then. But that first time, though, yeah, I went from, um, bombing like crazy to killing it and knowing I was killing it and just it was an out of body experience. Really. Wow. And, um, I’ve never been able to experience that again. I mean, I’ve had great shows since then, but that was like my first time. I think I had like, just, I don’t know, disconnected from reality for a minute or something, but it was great. It was really awesome. And I love seeing other people go up for the first time because I watched them, and I’m waiting for that moment before they go up where I can see it in their eyes, like they’re terrified because it always happens. And then I feel good for the person after that, because I think you need that fear to help you stay on your P’s and Q’s.

Sharon Cline: You didn’t get complacent Or what do they call it where you just expect you expect it to go well?

Reggie Harper: Yeah. Well, you know, you want it to go well when it comes to comedy. Um, but I think there’s always a little bit of fear because there’s always a chance that it’s not going to go well. Like, I’ve been doing it long enough. To where? Um, I feel comfortable in front of any demographic. I have jokes for any demographic. But you still there’s still always that. What if these people are, you know, everybody’s in a bad mood. Yeah. You know what? If everybody was fighting for, I can hear, you know, it’s like you never know how it’s going to go.

Sharon Cline: So do you feel like there you could say the exact same jokes in in two different nights, and you’d have completely different reactions depending on the crowd. And you can’t even figure out the rhyme or reason behind it.

Reggie Harper: I’ve had that happen before. Most of the time it’s the comedian’s fault.

Sharon Cline: I love how honest you are.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, because it’s true. Like some audiences are going to not really be into it and some audiences will be into it. And you can do the exact same set, but you have to adjust, you know, if you just have to adjust. And I think the more you do comedy, the more experience you get, and the more times you run into these situations where the crowd ain’t feeling you, you just you learn how to navigate through that, not around it, just through it. And when you’re on a show with 20 other comedians, you’re going to get a lot of different things. And depending on what order, as the comedian, you’re depending on the order, like where you pop in at, um, it could really affect, uh, the reception of your set. For example, if the first 6 or 7 comedians are raunchy and the crowd has gotten used to that, and or the crowd likes that, and then you come on and you’re rated G, you’re not going to do as well as if you went first and then the raunchy people came on after you.

Sharon Cline: Wow. Okay.

Reggie Harper: And then there’s, you know, 20 different comedians. You’re going to have 20 different personalities and.

Sharon Cline: And different subjects.

Reggie Harper: Mhm.

Sharon Cline: It’s really interesting. But I also love that you’ve got this other side of you that’s it’s obviously comedy. But the other side of you that is very serious with the acting side. So you get to kind of do both.

Reggie Harper: Mhm. I do and it’s gratifying.

Sharon Cline: It makes you well-rounded I guess like a well-rounded actor. If you wanted to you could go into either or. But I think most people that I’ve spoken to have been actors on the show have said the same thing that you have is that if they could just do this without having to worry about making money, and it’s such a shame, you know, that we all have to have something right now to bolster our lives. You know.

Reggie Harper: I think a lot of us, um, a lot of actors, I mean, we really are in it for the love of acting. Yeah, we want to make money. But, you know, this is like a passion of many of us. And if the money comes, great. If it don’t, as long as I can eat. You know that starving artist is there really are starving artists out there and they’ll take whatever work they can get.

Sharon Cline: Do you have a dream role?

Reggie Harper: I used to.

Sharon Cline: Uh oh.

Reggie Harper: I used to know. I used to wish I could play Marvin Hagler. He was a boxer. Oh, or some other boxer, because I love boxing as well. And I did a little boxing when I was younger and in the army. Oh, I do, I want to play Ming in a remake of Flash Gordon. That’s what I want to do. That’s my dream role right there.

Sharon Cline: Is that your dream role?

Reggie Harper: Like all jokes aside. Uh huh.

Sharon Cline: Okay, we’re putting that out into the universe.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, we are right now. That’s my dream role.

Sharon Cline: Isn’t there a new flash?

Reggie Harper: Did I not? I hope not.

Sharon Cline: Oh, I don’t know why. I think Flash Gordon is on my mind lately, but I’m not sure why. I saw something recently. I can remember it, like in the 80s. This awful, campy version of Flash Gordon.

Reggie Harper: That’s the classic.

Sharon Cline: Oh, sorry. I mean, it’s a classic version of that. I’m just saying. I remember that, so that’s when I think about it. Anytime I hear Flash Gordon, that immediately goes in my head, so I don’t know. I heard something recently about it. Good to know. Okay, so we’re putting it out in the world. That’s your dream role? Why?

Reggie Harper: Well, because Ming was. I don’t know, I just thought he was a cool guy. I mean, he’s evil, but he had a bald head like me. He’s got a goatee like me. He, um. He was running things on the planet in the universe until flash came along. But I would just. I don’t know why, but that’s my dream role. I think maybe, too, because I just can’t see them putting a man, a person of color in that role. Not to say a person of color can’t play it because I want to play it, but I don’t know, I just don’t. But in this day and age, you know, with nontraditional casting and all that, it’s you’re likely to see anybody in any role.

Sharon Cline: This is good to know. In the industry in general, I like knowing that.

Reggie Harper: Knowing what?

Sharon Cline: That there. That there’s not as much of a boxes that they’re putting people in.

Reggie Harper: Oh, no. But, you know, I don’t know how I feel. I have mixed emotions about that.

Sharon Cline: Really?

Reggie Harper: Yeah. Because, I don’t know, I’m used to Snow White being white.

Sharon Cline: I mean, The Little Mermaid or whatever it is.

Reggie Harper: Yeah. Like, seriously, like, I, I’m okay with them staying white. And, you know, we just blacks or whatever minority create. Let’s create a new one if we ain’t got one already. I don’t want to change what’s already been established.

Sharon Cline: Got you.

Reggie Harper: Yeah.

Sharon Cline: I like both.

Reggie Harper: And that’s fine. I don’t have anything against it. I just prefer it staying traditional.

Sharon Cline: Right, I got you. It’s just I can think of some of the videos I saw of of, um. I can’t remember her name, but the woman that played The Little Mermaid and these little girls that were, like, had never seen a woman of color, and they’re like, crying. And it just was so touching to me, and it kind of made me mad. It’s like, how underrepresented are you? Like, it’s just I want everyone to have something that they feel like inspired by whatever it is. So I like I like both, but I, I also love that there’s more diversity in general.

Reggie Harper: Me too.

Sharon Cline: Um, yeah. For sure.

Reggie Harper: The mermaid is a fish, so that don’t count. Whoever can play that. I just don’t want to see a black. Snow white. That’s it. I got to draw my line somewhere.

Sharon Cline: You’re allowed.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, but I’m all for diversity. I’m all for. Yeah, I love diversity. I mean, we had a long talk. You know.

Sharon Cline: I know we talked for, like, 30 minutes before we did this show. This happens to me all the time. I should be more disciplined. I was like, wait. Don’t talk about that yet. Let’s let’s press record.

Reggie Harper: But I think it’s good, though, because that way you kind of you get a better feel of who you’re dealing with.

Sharon Cline: Yeah. I mean, a lot of times they’re just strangers coming in here where I’m like, thank you for responding to my my stranger email or my message on Facebook. You know, but it’s strange thing when I, when we leave, it’s like, I know them and we know each other because I’m just kind of get to focus on one person at the moment and just kind of see what it’s like to be you. So what do you think people don’t know about the acting industry in general, that you think you could give them some information about?

Reggie Harper: First of all, I would say throw away all your preconceptions of what the industry is and don’t think that it’s going to happen overnight. I don’t care who you are, and if it does happen overnight, it’s probably only going to be overnight. Like, you really have to you have to you have to be prepared to pay a lot of dues, a lot of dudes. Um, especially if you don’t have connections in the industry, because even when you have connections, it’s still not everything is guaranteed. And even when you sign the paperwork, everything still ain’t guaranteed. There’s many actors who have had roles pulled from up under their feet after they’ve signed. I’m talking big name actors. So I don’t know. Well, not like a Denzel Washington, but you know a recognizable name. Um.

Sharon Cline: They end up on the cutting room floor kind of thing. Or recast.

Reggie Harper: Well, recast. Mhm.

Sharon Cline: Well, I always think of that story about Michael J. Fox who was in back to the future. The original actor is a person. I can’t think of his name, but he played the role initially and he was. They filmed five weeks of back to the future.

Reggie Harper: Really?

Sharon Cline: Yes. I have to look it up. Go ahead. Go ahead and chit chat for a second about something. Well, let me ask ChatGPT. No, I’m trying to remember who it was, but the original actor, um, was just not the exact right energy. And they had filmed five almost the whole thing.

Reggie Harper: So now that you mention that there’s something else, that’s something else I want to mention when you ask me about the industry. And so for people coming into it, I don’t know if people understand how much thought goes into the actual Will casting. You know, when we watch a movie or a television show, it seems like everybody is perfect for that role. And it’s because a lot of thought went into the casting. And just because you audition for something and you don’t get it, it doesn’t mean you did a bad audition. You might have knocked it out of the park, but maybe there was somebody on the cast who has more rank didn’t want you there, or maybe somebody else was a little bit taller than you, or the voice was a little bit deeper or a little bit higher. I mean, there’s so much that goes into it. Um, people getting into the business will be like, well, I’m, I’m good at this, I’m good at that. So I’ll get cast or there’s no way I won’t be noticed or discovered. Yeah, there’s plenty of ways, because there’s so many people out there and they have so many choices now and now in today’s into in today’s day, you don’t have to go into the office to audition anymore. So now they can look at hundreds of auditions in a week. Where, you know, back in the day.

Sharon Cline: You’d have to travel.

Reggie Harper: You had to you had to travel. Yeah, you had to travel. Sometimes you got to fly. People in. People got to actually come into the studio to audition. Um, not to say it doesn’t still happen. I’m just saying now, because of the way things are set up and technology, there’s more competition out there, much more.

Sharon Cline: It’s true. I think about, um, if you’re auditioning for a role and I, I have the same hair color or same coloring or something, they may want someone different. So it doesn’t matter if I’m great, right? There’s something about me that wouldn’t fit with who’s already there.

Reggie Harper: Sometimes that is definitely the case.

Sharon Cline: Okay, so it was Eric Stoltz. He was, uh. I’ll show. I’m going to show you a little picture of him. He was the original actor cast.

Reggie Harper: He kind of looks like Michael J. Fox.

Sharon Cline: He does a little bit. But, you know, he’s a wonderful actor. He’s a serious actor. But there was just a little bit of a comedic timing that Michael J. Fox had that brought brought a little something different. So even though five weeks in he was the main character.

Reggie Harper: Wait, wait a minute. So okay, I’m just now fully understanding what you’re saying. They actually did the work for five weeks and they cut him loose after that.

Sharon Cline: They cut him loose after that.

Reggie Harper: That’s crazy.

Sharon Cline: I know when you think about it, because you’re in it. Because you’ve been in it and you’re cast in it. Yeah, but they had to reshoot everything. Yeah.

Reggie Harper: Wow. That’s wild.

Sharon Cline: I know, and I actually, I think about, um, you know, you can be perfect for something and like, the energy of you, like Michael J. Fox. He came in. He was just destined to be in this part. And no matter what, it was supposed to be his even five weeks of other filming. And there’s something I like about that is like, if something is meant to be yours, it’s going to be yours no matter what.

Reggie Harper: Exactly. And that’s another reason why I don’t get mad if if I don’t get a part or a role. Um, I can’t tell you how many times that I’ve got an email or a text and they’re like, it’s down to you and one other person for like something that will definitely change the trajectory of my career and it doesn’t happen.

Sharon Cline: Oh, wow.

Reggie Harper: And it’s like, man. So I wonder, you know, it could have been anything. Person could have had straighter teeth than me. I don’t know. A lot of times you never do know.

Sharon Cline: I think that’s the case too. In the voiceover world, I always think about that. That someone will love my voice, someone will hate my voice. And there’s no way to know whether they’re going to like it or not. So I just try to stick to me. It’s forced me, absolutely forced me to be good with who I am. I cannot change myself because if I change it, I could be changing away from someone who would like me, and there’s no way for me to know if I’m doing that. So any time I do get cast in anything, it’s so validating for me because I’m like, okay, well then who I genuinely am and how I was put together was honored or valued. And it’s very moving to me. I feel like so, so honored that they chose me.

Reggie Harper: Well, I was given advice early on. I was told if they’ll cast you in small productions, they’ll cast you in big productions. I mean, you’re castable if if you can be cast. Yeah. I mean, that’s just a way to think about it.

Sharon Cline: Yeah. To look at.

Reggie Harper: It. Yeah.

Sharon Cline: I love that. Um, so knowing knowing this, it actually gives me a little bit more perspective as I’ve been doing different auditions. I had one the other day. I have one tomorrow morning, and as much as I’m enjoying it, there’s part of me that’s like a little bit afraid that I’m actually going to get cast because then I’m going to have to really be an actor.

Reggie Harper: Oh, I’ve thought about that so many times.

Sharon Cline: Like, I’m going to have to really do this. Like I’m not just playing around anymore. You know, there’s a little bit of fear of, oh, no, I can’t let them down now, you know, I’m just playing around right now.

Reggie Harper: There’s been oh, there’s been so many times where I’ve had the thought like, man, I don’t want to be the guy that stinks up this, this production. You know, I don’t want to be that actor that ruins everything.

Sharon Cline: That’s what I think about a lot.

Reggie Harper: And then two, you know if you audition for something and you get cast? You were saying you have to work. You know, once they cast you, now you’re locked in or whatever. You have to make sure that you’re going to be available to. That’s true because there’s a lot of people depending on you. So sometimes depending on the shoot schedule, I won’t even.

Sharon Cline: You won’t apply.

Reggie Harper: I won’t even apply because I already know. And the last thing I want to do is have them have to tell somebody, know who’s going to give me an opportunity because I don’t know, they might take that personal and never give me another opportunity just because I turned them down the first time.

Sharon Cline: And you have your agent to think about, I’m sure there’s like, I just got signed to an agency last week.

Reggie Harper: Congrats.

Sharon Cline: Why thank you. And now I feel pressure in a different way because I want to please my agency and they’re taking a chance on me. It feels like.

Reggie Harper: They are, um.

Sharon Cline: I don’t want to let them down. Or myself.

Reggie Harper: If they signed you, they. I’m sure they they feel comfortable with you and and are looking forward to working with you. And I’m sure they, they understand that, um, it could be tomorrow. It could be next year. It could be ten years from now. But you know, they they they believe in you. So they signed you up.

Sharon Cline: They believe in you too.

Reggie Harper: Well, thank goodness.

Sharon Cline: Somebody does. Somebody does.

Reggie Harper: Yeah.

Sharon Cline: I believe in you. Okay. Thank you. Set it on the show and everything. So. Okay. So what would you say your fearless formula is? How do you keep going? You know, when things are unsure.

Reggie Harper: Well, first of all, for me, I do have a goal. And when things aren’t going according to plan, I try to remind myself that I have very limited, um, control over the way things play out. I can only do my best to, you know, do my part in making things happen. But I also know that well, my belief is that everything is pre-planned and preordained, and if it’s meant to be, it’ll be. But in the meantime, I’m going to enjoy the process, because I think the now is is more important than what’s going to happen in the future. Not to say you shouldn’t focus on the future as well or be prepared, but really all we have is like right now. So where do you make it or not? Try to learn and enjoy from the process.

Sharon Cline: Um, not always looking at the outcome as being the most important, but just actually auditioning or actually getting up on stage. Those are all things you can celebrate for yourself.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, because I think a lot of our fear comes from not being able to control the outcome. Um.

Sharon Cline: That’s how I feel.

Reggie Harper: Yeah. And people, sometimes they want to give up because it’s not happening fast, and they fear it’s not going to happen. But you can’t let fear deter you. Um, because again, there’s only so much control you have, and you have to do what you can do. And as long as you’re being productive, though, I mean, something good is going to come out of that. It may not be exactly what you wanted, but it’s going to be what you needed, I believe.

Sharon Cline: And maybe something better.

Reggie Harper: It may. Well, I think most of the time it is something better. You know, a lot of us, we go into entertainment and we want to be rich and famous, or at least rich or at least famous. Um, but it’s not all it’s cracked up to. I’ve never been rich or famous. I mean, I’ve had money before, and I felt like I was rich, but I don’t need a lot in my life to be happy anyway. So having a, you know, just having money that’s expendable makes me feel good if it’s there. But, you know, people go into entertainment, um, in my mind, with the wrong goal because, um, there’s more of us that are not going to be rich and famous than there is that’s going to actually make it. And I think you have to go into it with that, uh, that understanding that there’s more chances you’re not going to make it than that you are going to make it. But in the meantime, enjoy the process because you’re doing it and you’re a success just even embarking on the journey. Don’t you know, putting your fear behind you and embarking on the journey is that makes you successful in my mind. You know, if you’re just sitting on the couch thinking about, I know so many people that in my life growing up who talked about doing things and never did it, and they probably could have really succeeded, but they never even tried. And those are the failures right there. Um, if you if you embark on a journey, um, and you don’t get to the destination that you set out to get, you’re going to get to a destination. But just enjoy the ride on the way there and be cognizant of the blessings and the just the opportunities and whether they turn out to be, you know, big opportunities or they don’t pan out the way you want them to. Um, just take joy in those little victories. Getting an audition. You might not you might not get the role. But you know how many people wanted just the chance to audition?

Sharon Cline: It’s a gratitude, right?

Reggie Harper: Yeah. And gratitude goes a long way. And I believe the universe repays you when you show gratitude.

Sharon Cline: We were talking about energy before the show and kind of, um, like the way people vibrate almost. Or. I don’t know if that’s the right word, but frequency, the frequency that people live.

Reggie Harper: On vibrate is a good word to use. Yeah.

Sharon Cline: But when I know that I have an attitude of of being, you know, gratitude, attitude or attitude, gratitude and being grateful for my life and many things. It’s so much sweeter. I just saw this woman post a video about her, like her ideal house was like just this little cozy place. And she said this, but with not with no man yelling at me this, but with books around me, this, but with coffee and quiet in the morning. And I thought, wow, you know, there there are people that would trade a million bucks for some of the things that I have, and I’m grateful for that. And I need the reminder. So when I really come from that place, it’s I don’t know, there’s it changes the frequency of how I feel and how I think and what I see, what I notice. It’s so much better than when I’m like, oh God, I just have another audition to do. And I’m really tired. I don’t know, a million ways I can look at things as being negative, but you’re right to have an attitude of being like, wow, I’m really lucky. Sometimes when I’m in my booth, I’m like, golly, I can’t believe I get to audition. And I always wanted a booth. And there. There are aspects of my life that I have now that I prayed for, you know, and that was the dream. And I got to actually live that, to remember that makes me feel, um, it’s just the the energy of it is so much better and sweeter than being, um, annoyed.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, well.

Sharon Cline: It’s a good word.

Reggie Harper: Yeah. It helps your quality of life when you. When you focus.

Sharon Cline: On. Right. The time is going to go by.

Reggie Harper: Mhm.

Sharon Cline: Yeah. Think about that.

Reggie Harper: You know um some people they want like mansions and all. I was thinking earlier today I don’t even leave my bedroom. Like I literally barely leave my bedroom, except maybe to go get something to eat or leave the house. So I don’t know, imagine for me wouldn’t it would be a waste. It would be a complete waste. Um, I’m happy with, like, the smaller things in life. Honestly, the more simpler things.

Sharon Cline: I have the same thing. Um, it was funny when we were filming the show. Um. Fatal Attraction. I was so crazy happy. Poor Carl, detective number one. I was just, like, the best. He’s like, okay, relax. Okay. I was just like, I’m sorry, but. But there are very few times where I have had such joy, even though it wasn’t some major role or whatever, just being part of it. Oh my gosh, I cried when I got the role. I cried the night it was over. They were like, okay, we’re wrapping. I’m like, no, like we want to go. But at the same time, the feeling of like, oh, I got to be part of something bigger than me. Mhm. Um, it was such an honor. And I tell you, I can’t imagine. What other role would I need to feel such joy? Like it was, I was exactly where I felt like I needed to be in that exact moment was so felt so lucky. And I know it’s something small, but the joy that I felt was profound.

Reggie Harper: Okay, so it’s more for you, but for the person, other person that wanted that role that you got. You know.

Sharon Cline: That’s so true.

Reggie Harper: It’s big and.

Sharon Cline: That’s a good point.

Reggie Harper: And the people who are watching this story be retold, it’s I’m sure it’s big to a lot of them. Um, and this story is going to be here when you’re not anymore. So, I mean, this is it is big.

Sharon Cline: Thank you.

Reggie Harper: Yeah.

Sharon Cline: Right. Because it’s the internet’s forever.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, the internet is forever, and I’m. But I’m glad you see it as something, um, I don’t know, you appreciate it for what it was, and, uh, I don’t know. It says a lot about you as a person.

Sharon Cline: Oh. Well, thanks. I tell people I’m amazing all the time.

Reggie Harper: And I’m seeing it firsthand.

Sharon Cline: Oh my gosh. Wow. Well, um. Yeah, I can be nice for an hour or so. It can be amazing for an hour in a in a studio.

Reggie Harper: I’ve been around you much longer than an hour, so I know you can.

Sharon Cline: Well, you were really nice on the set because I was like, you want to get dinner after? Like, I just didn’t want it to end. And it was just really fun.

Reggie Harper: I know what you mean. And I’m gonna tell you something I don’t normally, I’m not anti-social, but I don’t like hanging out with groups of people. I just don’t. I’d much rather be. I’m in my bedroom all the time. Like, that’s. That’s my safe space. And, uh.

Sharon Cline: I couldn’t I. You poor thing. I first met you, and I was like, can I take a picture of you or a video? Can I follow you on Instagram? And I kind of forced you to, like, be my friend. Sorry. I just realized that. No, I don’t give you many choices there.

Reggie Harper: I didn’t take it that way, though. It didn’t feel that way.

Sharon Cline: Oh, well, then I’m good at it.

Reggie Harper: It felt. You seem like I mean you to me, you’re a genuine person, and I don’t know, I’m attracted to genuine people. So I didn’t see you as being, like, intrusive or.

Sharon Cline: Oh, cool.

Reggie Harper: Or anything like that. No. And plus, I mean, in our profession, that’s what we’re supposed to do. I’m just not good at it, that’s all. I’m just.

Sharon Cline: I don’t know, you played along.

Reggie Harper: Know what I mean? Is you initiated it though, right? Yeah, sometimes I will, but it’s very rare. Um, and it’s not that I don’t like people because I love people, I love humans. I’m just I don’t know.

Sharon Cline: Well, you know what I struggle with, here’s my struggle is that energy will go out that way. But I have just as much that I need. No energy going out. So I’m. I’m extroverted and introverted, like, equally. So I can can do all of that. But if there will come a point where I’m like, okay, I need to now do nothing and I need to talk to nobody. And so it’s almost like a currency to me, energy is like spent, I spend it. But then I realized that I need to save. Now.

Reggie Harper: It is.

Sharon Cline: It’s a struggle. I struggle with that almost every day.

Reggie Harper: It is currency.

Sharon Cline: I get pulled and then I’m like, okay, I can’t handle another somebody, you know?

Reggie Harper: Yeah, energy is like currency and you have limited amount, you know, in a day, in a life or whatever, and you can only put so much of it in so many places.

Sharon Cline: Exactly what it’s.

Reggie Harper: Like until you deplete yourself.

Sharon Cline: Yeah. And then I’m like, I feel okay. I’m not going to respond for the rest of the day to people, and I don’t mean it anything about them. It’s actually just me. I need quiet just to.

Reggie Harper: You just touched my soul on that one because I’m just. I get text messages and messages and I’m like, I just don’t want to. It’s not. I love these people. Yeah. I just don’t feel like dealing with people right now or dealing with anything.

Sharon Cline: Has nothing to do with anyone else. It’s just me. Yeah.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, exactly.

Sharon Cline: I’m the same. Yeah. So I can be extroverted and chit chatty and all of that. But then, yeah, if I don’t have enough quiet time, like, I have this great motorcycle group that I ride with, and I love them, but I don’t know what happens to me. It’s almost like a switch where I’ve been with them all afternoon and I’ll be like, all right, I’m going home now. I just and I don’t even have any warning. It’s like nobody nobody did anything. I just I’ve reached my limit.

Reggie Harper: Well, you spent you spent it all.

Sharon Cline: I spent it. Didn’t even know I was ending. I’ll be like, okay, guys, I’m heading out. Yeah, I spent it all. But, you know, I kind of, I at least I recognize this about me. So I’m very strategic. I’ve been more so about how I spend my time and where my energy goes.

Reggie Harper: I’m the exact same way.

Sharon Cline: It’s a thing. But even in the acting world, like tomorrow morning, I’ve got to do this audition. I can’t be depleted. I’ve got to, like, draw.

Reggie Harper: See, this is why I was saying, like, I haven’t done anything because I’m focused on some other stuff right now. I just don’t have the amount of energy in me to. I don’t to to do everything I want to do at the same time. So I got to break it up into pieces.

Sharon Cline: Because you care, right? You don’t want to half ass it, right? No. You want to be 100% you. You honor what? It is interesting.

Reggie Harper: I don’t want to half ass anything in my life. Especially if it’s something that will always affect me or, you know, I don’t know. Follow me. You don’t want to. You don’t want to go into a role and then half do it, and then it’s always there on record and for people to see like he, you know, she only gave half effort in this scene or whatever. Like it’s you don’t want that. You don’t want that to be your legacy. It’s truth.

Sharon Cline: Well, I think that way about some of the books that I’ve done that I’ve been the narrator for, because in the early ones I wasn’t as great at it. I mean, I just didn’t have enough experience to really be perfect. And I’m still not perfect, but, I mean, I’m better at the way I edit, the way I all, of all of my equipment is just better. And so when I listen to the early versions of books that I’ve done, I’m like, oh man, if I could go back, I would have done it so differently just because my standard is and I’m more experienced. So yeah, I would, I would want the highest I can possibly. I mean, that was the best I could do at the time. It’s fine, but it still bothers me now. But I would want it to be like in the acting world. I would want to know that I gave at that moment. That’s the best I had, but that’s honoring the craft of it.

Reggie Harper: Absolutely.

Sharon Cline: Which other people that have been on the show who are where actors have said the same thing, so I must have. Good taste in acting. Asking people to come up, you know, and talk about it because. Yeah, it’s such a serious industry and profession. If and it can affect so many people in such a profound way.

Reggie Harper: Oh my goodness. The first time I, um, you know, I got into acting. Part of it was because I wanted to. I got into entertainment because I wanted to affect people. But when I was in school, um, we did a show, and it was a pretty it was fairly powerful. It was about police brutality. And, um, that was the theme of it. But after the show, these two older white ladies came up to me and they was crying. And, um, they kept apologizing to me. And I’m like, well, you know, I this I appreciate it, but I was just playing a character and, you know, I didn’t know what else to say to them, to console them. But they was like both of them was literally crying. And I had mixed emotions. It felt good that I was able, not just me, because it was a whole cast. We were able to affect them like that, but at the same time it felt kind of bad too, because it’s like they were really feeling it. And this is after the show. We’ve already left the stage and changed into our clothes and everything, and they were still bothered by it. Oh, it was kind of a, you know, during this rehearsal process for this show, I had, uh, it was the first time I lost myself in the role. So it was kind of scary because after the director had called scene or whatever, but I couldn’t get out of the character, so I actually had to leave the theater. I had to, like, leave the theater space for a while.

Sharon Cline: Oh my goodness.

Reggie Harper: And go get it all out and then come back and, um, but fortunately, like the director, she understood what was happening, so she didn’t give me no problems. I mean, I left the theater and just came back when I was ready. Um, but that was really scary. Wow.

Sharon Cline: So interesting to lose. To lose yourself like you should. Right. To become somebody else. But then want to come back to your own.

Reggie Harper: And that be able to. That was very, very scary.

Sharon Cline: There is this scene in a movie that I saw. It was a background. It was after they yelled cut! And there was a camera still rolling. This gentleman, um, was grieving over a violent act that happened to his girlfriend. And the camera that was on him, he was sobbing and he could not get past it. And so the crew, like all these people, were coming up and hugging him. And there was something just so pure about that moment that I thought, that’s that’s amazing. To be able to identify something so strongly with yourself that you can’t get out of it.

Reggie Harper: And that’s exactly what it was. I had my character had witnessed something, police brutality against his son, and I don’t know why like that particular day. That particular moment wasn’t the first time we did that scene, but it was the first time that I actually was really into character and just could not get out of it. And I don’t know, it felt good and bad at the same time because I’m like, okay, this I think this the way I’m supposed to be doing it. You know, I’m supposed to be feeling this bad, but I don’t think I’m not supposed to be able to stop crying or truth. Yeah.

Sharon Cline: Well, but she felt it that deep.

Reggie Harper: Yeah, I did. And so did those two little old ladies.

Sharon Cline: Oh they did. They probably still talk about that. Wow. You know, I actually I’m, I think it’s so interesting that it felt so real to them that maybe you did shift something in their soul. And and that is why you do what you do. I imagine why I would want to do what I do. Yeah. For the better is what I.

Reggie Harper: Mean by better. Yeah. Yeah. For the. Absolutely. For the better? Yeah, for the better.

Sharon Cline: Their perspective. Well, Reggie Harper, I’ve just had the blast chatting with you. It’s been so much fun. I mean, we could talk forever, but I really appreciate you coming down to the studio and being so genuine to us and caring so much about not just the craft, but like what it means for people who watch. And also, I love that you have a balance in your life of like, things that make you happy in a joyful way, like comedy, but also you get to identify with the depth of the drama of life.

Reggie Harper: I’m very blessed in that respect. Very, very. And I appreciate you having me down here on the show. It was much more funner, much more fun than I thought it would be.

Sharon Cline: Really? Well, that makes me happy. This is a happy Friday for me. Fearless formula Friday. Same here. And thank you all for listening to Fearless Formula. I’m Business RadioX and again this is Sharon Cline reminding you with knowledge and understanding we can all have our own fearless formula. Have a great day.