In this episode of High Velocity Radio, Lee Kantor interviews Laurie Magee, coach and strategy advisor with We Are Once, about helping analytical and technical professionals navigate career transitions, overcome burnout, and rediscover their sense of purpose. Drawing from her background in supply chain logistics, Laurie shares how coaching helps individuals recognize limiting patterns, reconnect with their values, and take ownership of their decisions. She also explores how AI can support interview preparation, build confidence through practice, and help organizations embrace change while maintaining the human connection.
Laurie Magee runs her own coaching practice and also coaches through platforms like Growthspace and Ama La Vida (ALV). She is an ICF Associate Certified Coach (ACC) and holds a bachelor’s degree from Northwestern University and an MBA from the University of Illinois Chicago.
Before coaching, she built a career with a strong operational focus at companies including UPS and Loop (formerly SIQC). That experience gave her deep familiarity with supply chain and logistics, as well as professional services for major organizations, particularly in retail, pharma, and automotive.
Looking ahead, Laurie plans to grow her coaching and consulting practice to include group coaching and organizational change management work.
Outside of work, she enjoys reading, cooking, and going to plays and musicals, and spends as much time as she can with her family and outdoors.
Connect with Laurie on LinkedIn.
What You’ll Learn In This Episode
- Recognizing workplace patterns that contribute to burnout and career dissatisfaction.
- Using coaching to navigate identity shifts and make more intentional career decisions.
- Aligning personal values and social needs to reduce internal conflict and energy drain.
- Taking small, practical steps toward change instead of waiting for perfect conditions.
- Understanding the role of trust, accountability, and readiness in the coaching process.
- Leveraging AI for interview preparation, scenario practice, and constructive feedback.
- Balancing technological innovation with human connection in organizational change.
- Turning career setbacks into opportunities for personal growth and leadership advancement.
This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix.
TRANSCRIPT
Intro: Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for High Velocity Radio.
Lee Kantor: Lee Kantor here another episode of High Velocity Radio and this is going to be a good one. But before we get started, it’s important to recognize our sponsor, Business RadioX. If you’re a coach or consultant who is tired of selling and ready to lead by serving, set up a call with Stone Payton at bookstonephone.com to learn how to give local business leaders a voice and become a recognized authority in your market. Today on the show we have coach and strategy advisor with We are Once, Laurie Magee. Welcome.
Laurie Magee: Thank you so much. It’s a pleasure to be here.
Lee Kantor: Well, I am excited to learn what you’re up to. Tell us about. We are once. How are you serving folks?
Laurie Magee: Yeah, definitely. So I tend to focus on professionals who are pretty analytical or technical, and they feel like they’re stuck or struggling, and I support them through coaching, and I allow them to decide how they want to move forward in their career path.
Lee Kantor: So what’s your back story? How did you get involved in this line of work?
Laurie Magee: Well, I was in supply chain logistics for over 15 years, and originally I worked for UPS. Then I worked for a consulting company, and at some point I realized I was really good at working with teams, facilitating and working one on one with individuals. And so at some point, I was like, you know what? I think this is what I need to do. And it was actually really hard to do that. But, you know, that’s a part of what attracts certain clientele to me, right? I think these are individuals who are also in a similar position of having worked in a technical background for such a long time and then realizing at some point, hey, I actually need to branch out and do something different because my heart, my body, my mind, my soul are all craving something different than what I’ve been doing for the past 15 years.
Lee Kantor: It’s funny you mentioned this. A friend of mine that seems to be going through a similar kind of inflection point. What is so what does it look like? So you worked in the in that industry for a while. So what kind of becomes the grind? What gets people kind of burnt out or wanting to maybe, you know, explore different areas after that period of time?
Laurie Magee: Yeah. And I love that question. I think for me, it was, you know, you’re doing a great job and but it’s never enough. And so at some point, you start to recognize like, hey, it’s not actually me. It might be the system here because no matter how much I give, no matter how much I do, it just isn’t sufficient to meet the demands of this environment. So for me, that was a major red flag. And I felt like, you know what? I, you know, you start to recognize at some point, especially when you start working with an outside party, like a coach or like a therapist. You start to realize, oh, it’s not, you know, just me, like not doing enough. It’s actually that I’m in an environment that isn’t really conducive to who I am and what I need to kind of support myself. So for me, that was really the point. Um, you know, that recognition was the thing that allowed me to kind of move forward in a different manner. And once again, the support was, you know, such a tremendous help in, in allowing me to kind of have this space and the time that I needed, especially, you know, because I was, I was starting a family, I was building like, you know, growing my family. And then from then on, I, I, I realized like, it becomes more so like you’re threading a needle when you have more people to support and you know, you want to do things the right way. And so that’s what I really love about working with a coach and why I think it’s so powerful and why I ended up becoming one.
Lee Kantor: So is that kind of the trigger usually in your clients that something changes in terms of their life or their lifestyle. And that now they’re reassessing kind of where they’re at. Is this for me? Because in anything especially like you’re describing, there’s kind of some sunk cost, right? Like you’ve been there for a period of time, you have achieved a certain thing and you’re giving up by making a change, you’re giving up some potential status or some opportunities or career momentum. Like you can see where this would be, um, an area to struggle.
Laurie Magee: Yeah, 100%. It’s great that you recognize that because it is really hard to give up something that you feel like you’ve been in for the longest time, but then, you know, you have to move forward in a different manner. Um, so yeah, that, you know, that’s one of the toughest parts is you, you realize, like, I, even though I’ve invested so much time in this, I can’t live like this. And I think that’s kind of a recognition of a pattern that you’ve had that you’ve been living for such a long time, but that no longer works or functions for you. Um, yeah. So when I work with clients, it is a tower moment for them. It’s the realization that something significant has happened or an internal shift has occurred where you can no longer look at life the same way you did previously. And I think that’s actually also another piece that is incredible about coaching is the identity shift that you can experience, you know, and I think that’s something we underestimate. Um, just as a culture is like we’re continually going through these significant identity shifts and some people can do it, you know, maybe on their own. But I think when you have someone who’s, you know, in your corner and, and helping you kind of suss through everything, it becomes a lot clearer just how to move forward and how to make decisions that were once difficult.
Lee Kantor: Now. Do you think that, um, because your work in like an area like supply chain or operations where systems are like, you know, the lifeblood of the whole thing that you’re doing that the individual kind of, um, like this, a disruption of a system. So that causes stress, like just by design, does that like, like, how does that kind of emotionally play into some of the work that you’re doing? Because when you’re dealing with people who are great at, you know, creating process systems, things like that, and then now you’re saying, okay, let’s rethink things and change things. That’s, that causes angst right there.
Laurie Magee: Yeah, 100%. I was blindsided, I think, for, um, a big portion of my life because I wasn’t always conceptualizing things right from a different perspective. Um, but I, you know, when you are in a system, it’s so hard to remove yourself or extricate yourself from that. And so that is precisely why getting outside of that in one form or another is so, so important. And in particular, I mean, I’m a big fan of family systems and I love reading psychology and therapy books because like you mentioned, that system is pervasive in our society. It’s everywhere. You know, it’s in a family, it’s in a school, it’s in a company, whether small or large, like these dynamics are at play all of the time. And for one to look at it from a different vantage point, it can be a huge sigh of relief, right? Or it can also be a huge wake up call and a huge concerning thing for people. Um, but either way, you know, it allows you to kind of understand what part you’re playing in this. And I think that’s also important too, right? Like, so individuals are playing a part in this or they’re facilitating or allowing certain things to occur. And I think that’s the ownership piece that a lot of clients, um, are able to take back and further develop to realize, okay, I can make a move. I, I can make decisions, I can make choices. And of course, you know, there’s a risk to everything you do. Um, but once you start taking more ownership of your choices, it, it opens up a whole new world for you.
Lee Kantor: So what are some of the exercises, um, or conversations you have with your clients when it comes to, you know, giving them that aha moment that you’re, you’re not in the matrix anymore, that you’re kind of in control here and that you have some agency. I mean, that’s a agency is a double edged sword, right? Like agency means like, hey, now I can, you know, dictate some things. And then on the other side, you lose some of that security and comfort that you had of being part of this thing. Um, so what are some exercises or tools you use to help a client kind of feel positive about the agency that they have?
Laurie Magee: Yeah, definitely. One of the things that’s actually really interesting is when I’m working with folks, they come with specific phrases or words, and the meaning is so specific to them. So they might use a word that means something, you know, that we typically understand in our culture.
Lee Kantor: Like what’s an example of a word that you’ve heard or.
Laurie Magee: Okay. So I had one individual. It’s actually very difficult. Um, and it’s not necessarily a word, but they were describing a scene and they were like, I feel like I’m in a roundabout and I have three different options and I don’t know which, you know, which direction to take off of this roundabout. And then once we started digging into that, they were able to describe, you know, they wanted to help men and they had experienced some difficulty in their career, and they wanted to make sure their son and future individuals were able to experience support, you know, that they needed. But then and one and then the other aspect was they wanted to maybe stay in their field, but they knew that they probably needed to break away because that was the healthiest thing to do. So it’s really cool because these words or images or phrases come up. And once you ask and delve into that, you start to paint a picture of what is actually occurring internally for individuals. So I actually think that’s a really good starting place. But then in terms of exercises, you know, there are so many good ones that exist in the world.
Laurie Magee: In particular, I love another basic one which is evaluating your social needs and your values. Right? And so that was something I learned from other really renowned coaches is fundamentally understanding what you need on a daily basis and then what you need on a long term basis. And these all look so different for individuals. And I think that’s also the beauty of coaching is allowing people to recognize, okay, even though I need this, a lot of other people may not. So that’s why it’s even more important to make sure I get these social needs met and that I stay aligned with my values because not everyone has these, but I do. And that makes all the difference of, you know, kind of staying in line with what’s really important to you, you know, because I think individuals sometimes forget that they’re so unique and that everyone is approaching things from a different perspective. And they don’t always, you know, agree or feel the same way towards certain things that you might feel the way towards things.
Lee Kantor: And isn’t that where some of the burnout or the friction can occur is when you have these needs and you define them, and then you say, these are my short term needs, these are my long term needs. And then there’s, you know, kind of a disconnect or they’re not congruent. And it’s like, on one hand, I’m trying to do this thing over here. And then on the other hand, I have to do this thing and they’re not meshing because they’re kind of incompatible. Um, yes. And you have to kind of help them either make a choice or just accept it.
Laurie Magee: Right. And that’s what you just mentioned is where the energy drain occurs, where that disconnect is. And so that’s a that’s a kind of a great way to put it is wherever there’s a disconnect, there’s an energy drain, right? And that realization and stumbling upon that for people is that aha moment. Because then they’re like, ah, okay.
Lee Kantor: That explains things.
Laurie Magee: Yeah.
Lee Kantor: Well, because especially for a process oriented person, now you see like a kink in the hose and now you’re like, oh, I can deal with this. This is what I do every day.
Laurie Magee: Yeah. And that’s actually what allows you to start taking risks because then you realize, oh, okay, so I can mitigate this one piece. If I know I can ensure I have more energy to put towards something than I can, you know, focus on that new thing without feeling like I’m, you know, losing things on the other side. So you are able to start patching up certain things while you test certain things out. And that’s also what allows you to kind of move forward and, and take these incremental steps that I think are really important. And that’s another thing that I, you know, highly suggest to clients who feel really stuck is start really small. You know, start where you’re at, start with the resources you have. You know, I think we also underestimate just how much we have already. And we think, okay, I need this thing, or I need to invest in this, or I need to get more equipment or try it. It’s like, no, just work with what you have. And then as things kind of develop, you can then branch out as you get more resources, you can then take those other leaps in the future.
Lee Kantor: Yeah, that’s something I find that it’s a lot of people. I don’t know if it’s a stalling thing, procrastination, where they’re like, well, I can’t begin until I have this thing. And then I got to get this big thing in order to begin. And it’s like, just begin. Like just start, you know. You know, talk to somebody. Like you don’t have to invest, you know, into, you know, building a building to know if you’re going to like the furniture that’s in there. Like you can, you can go to the store and look around, you know.
Laurie Magee: Yeah. Oh, and, and that’s a great way to put it right. It’s just like allowing yourself to explore and, you know, learn from that exploration, learn from those experiences, and then decide from those tiny pieces that you start with and how in the direction you truly want to take.
Lee Kantor: Yeah, I think that, I mean, and this probably happens and you’re probably living this as you’re kind of, um, you know, growing your practice. Is that how many people are aware of coaching intellectually? They believe that it would be useful, but they’re like, it’s not for me. Even though I’m struggling and frustrated and I have all of the signals that they need some help, but they’re not pulling the trigger, even though, you know, everything is right in front of them, but they’re not taking that action. Um, you know, I don’t even know the reason. You would probably have a better idea of, of the reasons why people don’t take an action when they know it would benefit them. They know what it is, they know where to find it. They they have all the information they need to make the decision, but they’re choosing not to. They’re just keeping things status quo. Like, what’s your take on the why behind people taking that first baby step to even just explore coaching?
Laurie Magee: Yeah, I, so I think now more than ever before, there’s more information and education surrounding what coaching is and isn’t. Um, but I still think there’s more work to do. I still think that people don’t realize what coaching is. And there’s such a wide variety of coaches, like there’s so many different facets of it. Um, you know, and. Right. So that education piece, I think is the number one thing is understanding that, yeah, coaches are there to support you, but they’re not there to make you feel better. They’re actually there to make you see better. So they’re helping you to kind of sift through stuff and move forward in the best way possible. The second piece, I think, is a trust component. I don’t I don’t think a lot of individuals, um, maybe feel like they can make that connection with someone or it may not be worth their investment of time and energy. So, you know, there’s that you have to trust someone. And then you also have to be very intentional about it, right? Because then you’re also taking time from your day, you know, and dedicating time to this specific thing. And when you’re in a coaching partnership, it really is a, you’re there to do work. So, you know, I think that’s another piece is like, you kind of have to be ready for it in a sense, because you are going to be taking these steps forward.
Lee Kantor: And maybe the fear is too high that they don’t want to deal with the action they know they have to take at some point.
Laurie Magee: Yeah. I mean, essentially a coach is an accountability partner. And if you’re, let’s say you’re burdened, you’re stressed out, you’re overwhelmed, you’re already accountable to all of these people. You know, you may perceive it as another energy drain, when in fact, it will help you kind of get out from under all of that.
Lee Kantor: Right. And some people, it’s like, you know, if somebody says, um, you know, I should lose weight and they’re like, but I like eating donuts. It’s like, I don’t want someone to tell me I can’t eat donuts. So I’m not going to pursue this, you know?
Laurie Magee: Exactly. Exactly. And you know, and that’s the piece of like, what am I ready to hear? Or what am I ready to like, do differently?
Lee Kantor: Right. Well, to me, I always say which pain is worse is the pain of being overweight worse or the pain of not eating as many donuts worse. You know, in any given moment, you have to make that call.
Laurie Magee: Yeah, definitely. And that sounds so simple the way you put it.
Lee Kantor: Well, I mean, it’s easy to say. It’s hard to do. That’s the that’s life, right?
Laurie Magee: Yeah, totally.
Lee Kantor: So now what’s it like to work with you? Do you work primarily one on one? Do you do group. Do you do cohorts? Like how do you kind of deliver your coaching?
Laurie Magee: Yeah. So right now I am working primarily one on one with individuals. I am facilitating though with certain organizations. So I’ve, you know, been leaning more towards B2B. And so I’m helping with rolling out different programs. And those are cohort based, but primarily when individuals come to work with me, it is one on one. Um, I’m certainly a fan of working with individuals or groups of individuals who are looking to achieve a certain goal, a goal, excuse me, and move forward. Um, you know, in a certain area of their desire. Um, but yeah, most and most generally I’m working with individuals one on one.
Lee Kantor: When you do the kind of the, the organization work, are they having you come in and to do a training on a certain topic, like what is usually kind of how that looks. What does that look like?
Laurie Magee: Yeah. So there’s a wide variety. Right now, it’s primarily, um, like the organization knows it’s a lot of it tends to be change management. So the organization realizes, okay, we’re implementing these new tools, we’re doing these new things. For example, AI, we’re implementing AI, but we want to maintain the human touch. So then some of the training may be around allowing the their experience leaders in an area to, you know, define what would be the best customer experience, things like that. So more often than not, it’s kind of like that shift that they’re trying to make within the organization. And they tend to have a really good L and D team internally. So a good learning and development crew that’s kind of also working on how they want this to proceed and what kind of references they want us to make. And then I can support that. So that’s really, that’s actually really fun. I’m in the process of doing that right now with a very forward thinking company. And it makes me very happy, honestly, because with AI, I do think sometimes there is a loss of connection.
Lee Kantor: So you, um, so you’re working with AI in your own practice?
Laurie Magee: Yeah, I do. I, I think it’s a great tool. I know there’s a lot of controversy. There can be a lot of controversy surrounding it, but in general, I found it to be really useful, especially for my clients that come from operations jobs or retail jobs or heavy analytical roles. Um, they find it so helpful to do a scenario, a play or scenario role play in their. Um, another great way to use AI is to prepare for interviews, record yourself, right? And then kind of listen to it and even ask AI to generate feedback based on what you said. So in those types of cases, I do find it to be very, very valuable.
Lee Kantor: So just to kind of map out what a, an AI interaction you would, um, maybe, uh, share with one of your clients or just for people if they want to play around is just kind of use AI as like they’re interviewing you for a job and then it’ll respond, you can have a back and forth conversation with it, and then it can analyze, you know, maybe ways to optimize that conversation or where, where there might be a hole in your swing that you may not be seeing.
Laurie Magee: Yeah. So partially what I do is I will provide, let’s say I’m working with a client and they want to prepare for an interview. So then they’ll do that with me. They’ll prepare for an interview, but then some might prefer to maybe practice a little bit more beforehand. Um, so then what I do is I generate that whole environment for them and it could be multiple tabs. And then like I said, it will have a record button. And then in that environment, they can record their responses and do it on their own time, and they can also, you end up catching a lot of things, let’s say filler words, or you end up noticing you’re doing a certain mannerism during the interview that you didn’t intend to do. So it’s actually really interesting because you, the more you practice, the more you realize like what you’re doing versus what you’re not doing. And once again, I can do that all with a client one on one without having to utilize AI. But I do find that a lot of clients really like it because there’s an aspect to just allowing yourself to do it in the comfort of your own home, on your own time. Um, and maybe go through it as many times as you need as many reps.
Lee Kantor: Yeah, I’m a big fan of reps. So the way more reps is usually better. Um, so if you have a tool that helps you get more reps in a safe environment that you can do on your own terms and time. I mean, that’s fantastic. Yeah.
Laurie Magee: Yeah. You can’t beat it. And if a client wants to, they can submit the responses to me and I can review them in advance. So that’s another kind of nice feature. More often than not, clients will keep it to themselves. But you know, they tend to get really excited and then they’ll be like, oh, can you add this one scenario? Or, um, can, you know, can you have it do this? And so in a way, it’s fun for me too, because then I can kind of test the limits of, you know, how I’m prompting and how I’m working with AI, um, productively as well.
Lee Kantor: Yeah. It goes back to the doing and not thinking about doing like you’re just doing it and then you’re learning and then you adjust and then you do it again.
Laurie Magee: Yes, yes. And a funny story, I actually just recently got a 3D printer and I’ve just been, I got it because my neighbor had one and, you know, the girls were coming to the bus stop every morning and showing all these cool things that they were printing for their teachers. And anyway, I ended up getting one. And I have two young sons and it’s, it’s been the funnest thing. And it’s, it’s so creative. Um, I feel no pressure at all. And it’s trial and error. But more often than not, you’re just creating these really fun, cool things that people really enjoy. So, you know, I think that’s kind of a thing that we’re talking about is like, the more reps you get in, the more you realize, like, I can do this and it can actually be really fun and creative.
Lee Kantor: Yeah. And learning by doing, I think is, is just a great way to learn. I mean, and especially the stakes are so they’re nothing, you know, you have the machine, you have the thing you play around. It didn’t work out. You, you know, do it again. I mean, there’s no cost.
Laurie Magee: Yeah. And I agree nothing beats experience right. That’s like that’s our teacher is experience. And so finding ways to get that before you’re in a more.
Lee Kantor: Where there’s stakes, right? It’s like learn when there’s no stakes and then that’s better.
Laurie Magee: Yeah.
Lee Kantor: Um, yeah, that was advice I always told my kid when he was little, I, you know, you do these things now where there’s no stakes, you know, like, um, I had a nephew that told me this was insane, but I don’t know how old your kids are, but they were they had kids that the parent always helped them do their work. Right? So then they go to college and now they’re writing a report for the first time. Right now, there’s stakes. Like they could have failed at the report in middle school, like they should have and learned how to do a report. And now they’re in college and the parent’s not there to help them anymore. And now they got to figure it out. Like that’s absurd.
Laurie Magee: Right? And in a way, there’s more upfront pain, right? So allowing your child to learn and my kids are six and four, by the way, but allowing them to learn things, you know, by experience, trial and error, of course, it’s going to take a little bit more time, but the payoff is so much greater. So yeah, that’s a great story.
Lee Kantor: Yeah. There’s a book, I think it’s called like lessons of the skin knee for parents. Something with skin knee is in the title, but it’s like, let your kid screw up when they’re little. Like, you don’t have to save them from everything. Um, is there a story you can share about a client? What it’s like working with you don’t name their name, but maybe share the challenge they came to you with and how you were able to help them get to a new level.
Laurie Magee: Yeah, definitely. So, um, let’s see. I had a client and she had been working at this company and I ended up going bankrupt and she was kind of beating herself up because she knew, you know, ultimately it was going under, but hadn’t basically procured a job before it had ended up going bankrupt. And so when we started working together, she was just really harsh on herself and super smart individual, very analytical, great experience, like ten years of experience, ERP and operations. Really good at just digging into the weeds and figuring things out. So we started working together and, you know, she was kind of like taking things slowly actually, because she realized, okay, this is kind of a reset in my life. Um, and even though I’m upset with myself, I’m going to try to enjoy this time. So she did take a couple of trips to visit family. Um, you know, she loved biking. So she was doing that on the side, but it was such a pleasure working with her because I, for example, I might recommend a book and then she would dive into that book and synthesize it and like run with it. And that was just incredible to see. I mean, basically, you know, as a coach, you’re kind of making custom suggestions based on the individual you’re working with. And sometimes people take them and sometimes they don’t. And that’s totally your choice. But it was just very refreshing to see her run with kind of some of the suggestions I was making. Ultimately, what ended up happening was she ended up getting a promotion. She ended up getting a new job. And it’s for a company where she’s more of like, um, in a managerial role. So really she was able to take a leadership step up.
Laurie Magee: And I just love that story so much because, you know, she was so scared. Um, she went through like four rounds of interviews to get this role. You know, she didn’t have a backup role, but at the same time, she was saying no to certain roles that didn’t fit her needs. And, um, there was one point in our work together where she was like, I just want to fly. And, you know, that actually was very touching because she was also, um, practicing to become a pilot on the side. Like her, um, husband had already become one and she had just always wanted to do this. So in her downtime, you know, while she was looking for a job, she was also starting to, um, to go to flight school and things like that. And I think that’s just a beautiful example of how you can turn a really negative, negative situation into an opportunity into something really positive, you know? And I think that’s when you’re really winning at coaching is when it becomes something very holistic, when it’s not just about a career or it’s not just about one specific outcome, but it kind of takes into account all of the things that are going on in your life. So for me, I felt like she ended up becoming such a success because, you know, she was committed and she did these incremental things and they all were working out for her. And now she’s actually starting a family. And so I, it was just a beautiful story to see unfold. And in her case, it actually did happen quite quickly from my from my perspective, I know it probably didn’t feel like that for her, but for me, it was I think it went rather quickly.
Lee Kantor: Yeah, the impact is real. And especially, you know, the work is so holistic. It isn’t like, okay, we’re fixing this thing. It’s like everything is connected. So I mean, you can see kind of the ripple effect of the work.
Laurie Magee: Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I have a lot of other clients that, you know, you know, when we start working together, they don’t always give me the full picture or they’re holding something back or protecting something. But once you start building the rapport and you know, they can trust you at a certain level that they maybe haven’t trust someone in the past, then they’re able to dive deeper and share these very integral parts of themselves, or these interesting stories or these hobbies. And you know, it for me, that’s, you know, what kind of makes my job so fulfilling and interesting and just beautiful is to see all of these unique pieces that people bring to their lives, even though they might have a career that they have to do, you know, to support their family. There’s also this other component to them of, I can do all these other amazing things as well.
Lee Kantor: So if somebody wants to learn more about your practice, get a hold of you. Get on your calendar. Is there a website? What’s the best way to connect?
Laurie Magee: Yeah, definitely. I have a website. It’s lauriedmagee.com and Magee is actually MAGEE. I’m also on LinkedIn as Laurie Magee. Um, and then I also have an email and other information, um, that’s available on my LinkedIn website, but definitely going to the website. Laurie Magee would be a great place to start.
Lee Kantor: All right, that’s lauriedmage.com. Yeah. Laurie, thank you so much for sharing your story today, doing such important work. And we appreciate you.
Laurie Magee: Thank you so much, Lee.
Lee Kantor: All right. This is Lee Kantor. We’ll see you all next time on High Velocity Radio.
