Robert Danna with Global Curiosity Institute

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Trisha Stetzel: Hello, Houston. Trisha Stetzel here bringing you another episode of Houston Business Radio. My friend Bob Danna is back, fellow at the Global Curiosity Institute and author of the memoir My Curious Life. If my grandkids ask about me, tell them this. With more than five decades of leadership experience as a physicist, US Navy officer, consulting engineer, and senior executive and human capital management, Bob’s career is a true example of how curiosity fuels growth and reinvention. Bob, welcome back to the show.

Robert Danna: Thank you Trisha. I really appreciate the the, the Re-invite and I’m really looking forward to our conversation.

Trisha Stetzel: I am too. I’m really excited to hear about what you’re working on right now. Bob.

Robert Danna: Yeah, Trisha, there are some really exciting things going on as as everyone, uh, in your audience knows, uh, AI you know, you can’t you can’t read anything, tune into anything and not hear about AI. Um, so, yeah, I’m an old guy. I’m 70, 74, uh, but still very curious. So. And as I think the listeners may know from our last conversation, uh, I retired now about a year and a half ago. Uh, and so at this point, it’s all give back. Uh, you know, I’m not looking to, uh, to make money, make investments, do any of that stuff. That’s all behind me now. It’s the real question is, you know, where is the impact, uh, that an old person can make, uh, in actually doing something that is going to be beneficial to the next generations. So especially the Gen Z and Gen alphas. I think that’s that’s the place that I’m really trying to focus on these days. And so, uh, a couple of interesting things. Obviously, uh, Trisha, you mentioned the Global Curiosity Institute still very involved with that, uh, really pushing the envelope of, uh, of promoting the power of curiosity, uh, the fact that, you know, most people are not, uh, at this point, uh, in their lives, you know, once you’re probably past 14 or 15, uh, you know, a lot of that curiosity has been beaten out of you.

Robert Danna: Uh, and so, you know, at this point, it’s like, you know, it’d be good actually, to, uh, to maybe reinvigorate that, uh, that muscle that you now have lost. And I’ve actually lived that that and honed that muscle over my entire lifetime. Uh, so we’re still working on that. Uh, but what I’d like to kind of chat with you about is, is actually, uh, the whole possibility of of AI in all of its different dimensions. So I think I mentioned last time that I was working with, um, with Ray, uh, he’s working on what he’s calling the Young Professionals playbook. Um, and so that actually now has all 25 episodes, all 25 podcasts done. You can actually go to young professionals. Professionals playbook. All, all one word.com. Uh, and it’s free. Uh, you can go and, uh, especially as a Gen Z or Gen Alpha, uh, take, uh, uh, take a look at the podcasts. Uh, they’re all AI generated, including Bob. Danna is in there, uh, several times being interviewed. But it’s not me. It’s, uh, it’s it’s it’s an AI. Me. So it’s it’s really cool. Uh, so, uh, and so, you know, it’s I think there’s some real, real insights there, because what we did was we tried to, um, and, uh, Lacey lo, you can have on your program here.

Robert Danna: Uh, probably in October. Uh, she and I work with Ray to generate content, but also to try to pick subjects. So actually, curiosity is one of the podcasts. Uh, and there’s also one on on being a skeptic and managing up, uh, and you know how to. Yeah. So there’s all kinds of things that are practical for, uh, Gen Z as they’re now entering the workforce. Uh, and so one of the things we wanted to do is not just kind of, you know, do onboarding stuff, you know, the normal stuff. It’s like, you know, what did we learn, okay, over all these years that if I can, if I can, you know, give you that now that may really help, uh, in terms of, of your ability to, to grow in an organization. So, uh, so anyway, I’ll give you one, one snippet and then I’ll let you ask questions, but, uh, the actual, uh, structure is unique. Um, so the podcast is again 100%, um, uh, AI. So we wrote the content, uh, but then, uh, the actual host. You okay? Uh, would actually be, uh, an AI generated person, uh, from all over the world, all the all different accents. Uh, it’s all spoken in English, but but with heavy accents from from Southeast Asia or from Europe or whatever.

Robert Danna: Whatever. Uh, all, you know, very diverse, uh, group of hosts. Um, and so they’ll introduce the podcast, introduce the topic, uh, and then actually kind of bring on a guest. Me uh, but I’m going to be I’m going to be AI, too. Uh, so, uh, my voice etc. is all they got it for me. They got an old guy, uh, voice from Long Island. Uh, so so it actually doesn’t quite sound like me, but it’s close enough. Um, and then, uh, they regenerated a song because it’s like, okay. Oh thanks, Bob. Now we’re going to take a quick break and we’re going to go to a song on the on the subject. And he wrote with AI a song. And then, you know, they have callers who are calling in. Well, the callers are all AI generated. Uh, and then there’s a kind of a practical, uh, uh, kind of scenario based exercises at the end to kind of test your thinking. So it’s all 30 minutes. It’s all packed into 30 minute. Yeah. Just like this. Um, and so. But there’s 25 of them. I encourage you. It’s it’s been one of the really fun projects that we’ve done over the last year.

Trisha Stetzel: Wow. That is amazing that you’ve been able to create something like that and generate it all with AI. Um, all right. So young professionals with an S playbook. Com is where everyone can go and find that resource. It sounds really cool. I’m doing that as soon as we finish here. I’m just saying, because I want to hear. Bob.

Speaker4: I want to hear your voice. Bob.

Trisha Stetzel: Yeah.

Speaker4: Bob sounds a lot better.

Robert Danna: Than the real Bob.

Trisha Stetzel: I love this. So really important that we’re giving this kind of information back to our younger generations. You and I talked about that in our last episode, how important it is for us to be sharing the knowledge and even the stories that we have and creating this legacy for our young professionals as well as our families. So, Bob, we were talking before we started recording today about how important it is to tell our stories, and you were telling me how this AI generated Bob, uh, now knows all of, uh, not all of it, but a lot of content where you’ve gone out and told your stories and you’ve talked about the things that you’re doing. How important is it that we tell our stories for our younger generations.

Robert Danna: I think it’s absolutely critical, Trisha. Absolutely critical. Because because at this point, you know, we we’ve spent a lifetime kind of, you know, bumps, bruises, kind of lessons learned. A little insight here and maybe a tiny bit of wisdom there. Um, and yeah, you can kind of sit down and and have a chat. Uh, but it’s, I think, going to be really, really important. Uh, because, you know, when we’re gone, the only thing that we really have that that we can leave, um, is our story. Uh, and so I think it’s critical to be able to capture that. And let me tell you what I’m doing, which is really going to be, I think, interesting to to the audience, uh, is, um, number one, I wrote the book, obviously, it’s a memoir. Okay. Uh, so it’s 270 pages of, of of me trying to kind of recollect the last 74 years and put into perspective, uh, everything, everything in the book tries to to effectively kind of disassemble and then reassemble. Bob. Danna. So it’s like, you know, you mentioned all these different parts of me, okay, the physicist and the engineer and the business person, etc. but what did I learn in all those different things? Um, and then, uh, be able to, to convey that. So that’s what the book does. Uh, but then I’ve also been doing, uh, some podcasts and obviously, uh, quite a number of radio shows and uh, and being a guest on other other podcasts and blogs and, and other things.

Robert Danna: Well, we took all of that, which was about 600 pages of stuff. Okay. And uploaded it, uh, into ChatGPT, which you hear all the time. Uh, and so, uh, kind of took that and then actually had to tell ChatGPT who I am, you know, what’s my personality? What’s my demeanor? Uh, what are the guardrails? What? You know, if I went into the internet and did a search. Okay, uh, how much would I be questioning what I’m seeing? You know, how much evidence, how many facts, how much do I need to look at before I would conclude? Okay, fine. I’m going to convey this to somebody else. You can actually tell ChatGPT all of that stuff. So now you got your story, okay. And actually you got your personality and attitude and kind of the essence of you, you know, put it all in a Cuisinart press, you know, mix, um, and where we are right now, which is really, really crazy. Um, I, I call the thing but Bob, um, uh, so, uh, and actually the joke around here and all of our friends who have been looking at this, uh, is, you know, if you ask Bob. Bob, you know, who are you? Okay. Uh, Bob, Bob would say, well, I’m Bob. Uh, yeah. So it’s like, I don’t know who this guy is. Okay. Uh, what we’re.

Speaker4: Calling we’re calling.

Robert Danna: Me now is meet Bob. Bob. Okay. So.

Speaker4: But Bob.

Robert Danna: Bob thinks he’s Bob. Okay. So, uh.

Speaker4: And so you.

Robert Danna: Can actually have a conversation with Bob. Bob. I mean, just you press a button. Okay. And you speak into your microphone, and then Bob. Bob speaks back. Okay. Um, with my voice. Because, uh, we actually, um, put my voice into, uh, 11 labs is the is the technology. Uh, and then you speak for a half an hour, upload that, and then it creates that whole library. And so even the words may not be there. It will then have created an actual conversation, and it’s real time. It’s like one second. So you ask a question and one second back. But then Bob, Bob asks you a continuing question. So you actually have a conversation. Uh, and so it’s, it’s it’s so, so the story. Okay. Is the important part. You got to start with your story. But now for all of the old people that are on your, on your on your, on right. Uh, I’ll tell you. You know, you can actually create an AI agent of yourself, uh, that will allow you to leave that legacy to your children, your grandchildren, your friends who can now continue to have conversations with you. You know, sooner or later, we’ll all be gone. Uh, but, uh, maybe not. Maybe there’ll be a, uh, you know, an AI agent that you, uh. PaTrisha. Yeah. Uh.

Trisha Stetzel: I know that sounds kind of scary, Bob. I’m not sure about it, but.

Robert Danna: I will tell you the thing I’m looking forward to, because we still. I’ve been working with this guy, Joe DiDonato, who’s putting it all together. And, uh, my objective is next year. Okay. You don’t have meet Bob on, uh, this, uh, this, this, this radio show for a conversation. But we will actually set up Bob so you can you can have a conversation with the AI agent in real time. Uh. Ask questions. Get answers. Have have have, you know, ask you questions, etc. and have a conversation with with a with a me AI agent. So I’ll stop there.

Trisha Stetzel: Wow. All right mom. My mind is blown right now that I might be having a conversation with Bob. Bob, the next time we have an opportunity to get together. Tell me. Tell me this I know. Um, curiosity has always been an important part of everything that you’ve done. And particularly as you do your work with the with the Curiosity Institute. What what is it about this bot? And leaving a legacy and using the technology that you find is important and a reason for doing this work?

Robert Danna: Yeah. I think in a in a word, uh, it’s, um, It is the word legacy. I think that’s that is that is the whole thing. It’s. Yeah, you know what? Because you can leave property. You can leave money, you know, you can leave leave stuff. Okay. I’m not a stuff kind of a guy. Okay. Uh, you know, I want to be able to leave something that actually has real value, uh, and not material value, but real value, uh, so that, uh, you know, my my, my, my grandkids, the four of them, uh, you know, between Lacey and I are, you know, between, I don’t know, five and 8 or 9. So. So, you know, they don’t understand anything when I tell them the story, or at least he tells, uh, tells the story. It’s like, you know, uh, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no understanding whatsoever. So by the time they really will understand the story, which is 25 years old, 30 years old, 35 years old, I mean, I’m going to be long gone. Um, so, you know, I want to be able to actually have something that that is meaningful. Okay. And I think all of us want to do that is meaningful and actually might even in future generations, have some kind of impact. Um, and so that’s kind of that story that and the technology will allow us to do that. Uh, and so it’s that.

Trisha Stetzel: Okay. Yeah, absolutely. So, Bob, it’s no secret that you’re 70 for this, because I’m pretty sure you said it before I did. Um, what if people who are listening are. They don’t know anything about technology. They don’t know how to leave their story behind. They’re they think to themselves, I’m never going to create a bot to create this kind of legacy that Bob is leaving behind. What would you say to them?

Robert Danna: Well, you can you can do several things. Um, uh, number one, even if you’re sitting sitting there in your living room, uh, you know, everybody’s got smartphones these days. Um, so there’s a there’s a microphone, there’s a recorder there and just say, hey, 15 minutes a day. I’m going to just sit down and press the record button, uh, and uh, and just, you know, tell a story of, of, uh, you know, growing up in the 1960s or, you know, what I learned on my first job or, I don’t know, whatever. Okay. Uh, and do that, you know, once a day for the next, I don’t know, like 3 or 4 weeks, maybe. Think about it. Okay? 15 minutes a day. Times that you actually have captured an enormous amount in all of these files. Um, and so, uh, those can be transcribed. Those can be, you know, but but I’ll tell you what else. It can be done. You know, you could actually take those and then have someone or yourself or maybe get one of your kids or, or whatever to, to to be a little bit useful to you. Uh, and so, you know, maybe take them and get it to a point where they can put it into a story that’s a written story could turn into just some legacy that you want to be able to pass on to future generations.

Robert Danna: But that’s what I started with. Now, whatever it was been two, two and a half years ago, and then it evolved into, you know, chapters into a book into whatever. And that’s where we are right now. So I would say, you know, don’t don’t say, well, I’m going to leave next Thursday open and I’m going to spend next Thursday capturing, you know, my story. No, you do do 15, 20 minutes a day. That’s all you need to do. But then you’re going to have all of these files. And you know, if you don’t know how to do it, somebody can explain it to you in about 15 seconds. Um, and so start there. Okay. But then get it into something that is valuable. And then, you know, you may find that you go say, okay, fine, I’m going to find somewhere where I can upload this and, and now actually do something. So maybe 5% or 10% of your audience that gets to that point, but 95 or 90% of your audience certainly can have a kind of a recorded, uh, you know, recorded narrative of their story. That in itself would be incredibly valuable, uh, to, uh, their kids and grandkids and great grandkids.

Trisha Stetzel: Yeah, absolutely. So, Bob, uh, you and I spoke before we started, uh, the show today about leaving that legacy. Leaving that story is so important. Why did you start down this path in the first place? Why is this leaving a legacy of Bob so important to you?

Robert Danna: Yeah, I think that it’s not so much just Bob. Okay. Um, I think the key was, um, when I started thinking about, you know, uh, all of the things that I had learned. And then I think, Trisha, you and I chatted that, you know, probably now, maybe five years ago, maybe a little bit longer. I started to, um, to do volunteer coaching and especially mentoring of Gen Z’s. Okay. So I did a lot of mentoring of Gen Z’s. So not really coaching per se, but really kind of helping them think through, you know, some initial career choices and then where they are in their initial activities on their first job and maybe looking at the first promotion and whatever. So there’s a bunch of them. And actually the conversations were really useful and the feedback was, hey, this actually helped. So I think that’s really kind of capturing Bob, per se, but it’s really being able to capture, you know, those little, little highlights, those insights. You know, that little, you know, tiny bit of wisdom so that they don’t have to go and kind of reinvent it and go through all the problems and then, you know, go down all all the dead ends, uh, you know, which I did and you probably did. Well, maybe we can solve or, you know, a little bit, you know, a little bit better, better choices.

Trisha Stetzel: Yeah, absolutely. So for those of you who are listening today and thinking, gosh, you know, somebody in your life, uh, had a story to tell and that story was never captured. I want you to think about that moment now and decide to go tell your story. I think that’s such great advice, Bob, to do it in small chunks, and then you have a whole book. If you wanted to go write a book or a memoir, or you could do a video library or an audio library that you could leave behind with all of your stories, not just your stories, but your knowledge. And like you said, all of the times that you maybe fell down and skinned your knees and open up that store on your elbow for the fourth time, doing the doing the hard thing. Yeah, we’ve all been there, but we don’t. We, uh, don’t capture those stories. And particularly Early a generation that didn’t grow up with recorders and computers and things that were accessible in our homes. I mean, I’m not 74 yet, Bob, but we didn’t have a computer when I was growing up, so there wasn’t necessarily a way to capture stories as we were. Right. Uh, as we were coming up. And I think that’s so important that we capture those stories. Okay, Bob, uh, talk to me about what’s next. So I know you guys are still working on this bot Bob project, and that’s something that you’re going to continue to work on. You’ve finished up the Young Professionals playbook. It’s out there and ready to be used. What’s next?

Robert Danna: Yeah. What’s next is actually I’m working. In fact, um, Lacey and I are going to go and meet with a company that’s actually in town here. Everybody comes to Las Vegas, right, for the conferences and the like. So we have a big conference here called HR tech. Uh, that that’s just starting, um, today. So a company we’ve been working with is called baryons. Baryons AI um and so they produce, uh, AI agents. Um, and so what what we are doing is, uh, kind of helping them think through, um, what kind of AI agents that are mentors. Okay. They’re designed to be mentors. Now. They’re not designed to be Bob mentor. Okay. They’re they’re they’re generic mentors. Um, but the beauty is that, you know, once you start to, to engage with, uh, with, with, with, with, with what they call my baryons, uh, so it’s a phone call, you make a phone call, and when when, uh, when my baryons answers the phone, uh, my baryons goes, oh, hi, Bob. Okay. It knows my phone number. Okay. Uh, you know, how are you doing today? How the last time we had a chat last. Last week or yesterday or this morning. You know, you you said that you wanted to to to explore, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, uh, one of the things that that we’re doing is trying to work with them to kind of understand for they to understand what what we’re thinking about in terms of the power of, uh, a, an AI agent that’s designed to be a mentor for, again, especially Gen Zs and alphas and millennials. Uh, and so how do you how do you construct that? Uh, and then what kind of things are you trying to have as objectives for that interaction? Uh, you know, is it coaching or is it in fact mentoring or some combination thereof? So, so, uh, I think that’s the next big thing.

Robert Danna: Uh, so we’ve been working with them now for probably the last, oh, I don’t know, 2 or 3 months or so, um, as kind of informal advisors. But today it’ll be the first day that we’re going to have a, uh, a physical face to face. Uh, you know, we’ve obviously been on multiple zoom calls and, uh, you know, yeah, Google Meet and whatever. Uh, but now we’re actually going to sit down with them and have a chat with them since they’re at the conference. And, and we live in town, so we’re going to go over and meet with them so that I think the baryons is the next big, big exciting thing is getting to have this available effectively to everybody. So, you know, you’re not paying big bucks to get a mentor or whatever. Uh, you actually it’s a small, small, you know, subscription fee. And now suddenly you have this intelligent agent that knows you and can kind of build on all the conversations that you’re going to have to guide you through, um, your, your decision making and your thinking. So it’s it’s crazy interesting stuff these days. I will tell you, I am so excited about what’s going on with AI. You know, everybody’s you know, they’re they’re oh, the world’s burning down. Ai is coming to kill us or whatever. No no.

Trisha Stetzel: No no no it’s not. It’s not so. So let’s tackle that. Uh, Bob. So for those who are listening in today and thinking, oh my gosh, my job or my work or my profession is going to go away because it’s going to be replaced by AI or some bot. Where does the intersection of human and AI come together, and what does that look like in the future, do you think?

Robert Danna: Yeah, Trisha, I think I think AI will take over the mundane. Okay. It’s it’s actually going to, you know, the drudgery of work. We all know the drudgery of work, right? I mean, it goes on every single one of our lives. Okay, so AI is going to take away the drudgery, uh, of of our jobs. Okay. And in fact, be a tool if you think about it, as a tool. And now what it’s going to do is free you to be able to contribute the human part. Okay. Your brain. Okay. The real thinking part there. The reasoning part. Okay. What is it? You know, kind of the logical part of your brain that that, that have been is not being used too much because you’re doing all this drudgery stuff. Okay.

Trisha Stetzel: Right.

Robert Danna: So, you know, I think if everybody’s kind of thinking about so, so if, in fact, I can get rid of all this drudgery stuff, where’s the real value that I can add in terms of, you know, advising or consulting or kind of helping my client actually leverage all of this stuff that now the AI is doing, but only I, the AI can’t give, you know, kind of the wisdom. Okay. It hasn’t lived. Okay. Um, uh, but you have. Okay. Uh, and so I think, you know, where are all of those lessons learned and all of the really, really all of that, um, kind of insights and wisdom? And how do you now, uh, be able to, to really provide that to your customers, your clients, your your colleagues, etc. I think it’s going to it’s going to be incredible in terms of the the opportunity that AI is going to and it’s going to get rid of the drudgery, which is is the thing that all of us hate anyway. So now it’s work with it. It’s like like, okay. Don’t resist. Okay. Figure out how to actually move forward and kind of bring that, uh, to the forefront and, and, and effectively say, okay, fine, okay. This is what I’m going to be able to do. This is what the machine is going to be able to do, and we’re going to do it together.

Trisha Stetzel: Yeah. So as you were talking through that, I’m thinking AI is actually going to elevate us to use more brain power beyond right, what the bot can do. So we’re going to start, um, engaging more parts of our brain and doing more thinking and analyzing and computing up here versus just changing trash can liners. Right. Uh, and doing the, the mundane things like time management or whatever it is that I do over here with my sticky notes and all of the things that I could use automation and AI for. Right. Um.

Robert Danna: Ai, AI agent as your assistant doing all of that stuff. And now the real thing is, you know, all the value that Trisha brings to the brings to the table is going to be more like, you know, 80% rather than 20% of what you’re doing now.

Trisha Stetzel: Absolutely. Okay, Bob, our time went by so darn fast. I know this happens all the time. What is one last thought around AI humans interacting with AI, leaving a legacy? What is one final thought that you would like to leave with the audience today?

Robert Danna: Uh, I think if everybody in the audience can think about, um, you know, what is the possible, um, you know, it isn’t. Oh, no. You know, I’m going to have to fight this or I’m going to have to resist it, or I have to. The real question is what is the possible. And each each person is going to have a different. What is the answer to that? What is the possible. But once you kind of zero in on that I’d say, you know be curious. And it actually actually just. Yeah. Oh, my. Um, but, uh, do some investigation. Yeah. Isn’t like, it isn’t like you can’t, can’t investigate. And then, like I said, I would definitely, definitely recommend to everyone to think about their story, think about capturing their story. Think about 15 minutes a day. I’m a big 15 minutes a day kind of a guy. I do a lot of things, but in 15 minute chunks. Uh, so I don’t wait until, you know. Oh, I’ve got a programed in two and a half weeks from now I’m going to spend, you know, Thursday the blah, blah, blah to to, uh, to do. No, I never do that. It’s like I’m going to do something today and then something tomorrow and something. But but by the time I get to that Thursday, two and a half weeks from now. Uh, the thing is, is, is actually got a life of its own at that point. So, uh, I’d say do that. Okay. And start capturing your story. Uh, even if you’re even if you’re younger, even if you’re, you know, in your 30s, you know, you still have you live 30 years. Okay. Uh, you know, it’s still good to do that. And if you’re doing it in ten, 15, 20 minute chunks, uh, you can just have all of these files sitting on your, on your smart device or on your computer, and you’re going to be really happy in a year.

Trisha Stetzel: Yeah. Or in ten years when you can’t remember what you did ten years before, right?

Robert Danna: Yeah. That would be less for me. Uh, so it’s good. Maybe it’s probably 20 or 30 years for you. It’s probably, you know, next year for me, so.

Trisha Stetzel: Oh, my goodness, this has been awesome. Bob, I’m so glad that you came back and, uh, spent this time with me today. Really focused on this space that’s so important to all of us. What’s the best way for people to connect with you if they want to learn more or just have a conversation. Bob.

Robert Danna: Sure. Uh, a couple of ways. Number one, you can go to my website. So my curious life dot net. My curious life net. Then you’ll see actually a bunch of the, um, the radio shows and podcasts, uh, that I was guests on, including Trisha’s the last one. Uh, so you can go to that or, uh, just, uh, connect with me on LinkedIn. That’s always a great place. So, uh, Bob. Danna. Two n’s. D a n n a, uh, so, Bob Danna on, uh, on LinkedIn. And if you put Bob down in my curious life or something like that, then there’s kind of, I think only one of me anyway, on, on, on LinkedIn that you’ll find. But anyway, you can connect me with me on LinkedIn. Um, uh, or um, I am I am now on Substack. Uh, so I actually I’m contributing quite a bit on Substack and then I’ve got a Facebook site. I mean, so there’s other, other places that you can find me, but, uh, Bob, Danna. And again, Bob, Danna, my curious life usually, usually kind of gets, uh, gets, gets to me pretty quickly. Uh, but definitely website, LinkedIn. And I, um, as you can imagine, uh, I am very open to conversation and sharing. And because I got, I actually have I don’t work so.

Trisha Stetzel: So well and I, I appreciate that you want to get out there and have conversations and tell stories. It’s so important. I that’s really what we’ve been focused on today. So I hope that I get the real Bob Danna next time. Not the Bob Bob Bob Bob.

Robert Danna: I absolutely that’s my goal in life now is actually to turn this over to Bob.

Speaker5: Bob turn it over to Bob. Bob.

Trisha Stetzel: Bob, thank you so much for being with me today. It has been my pleasure to host you. Two.

Robert Danna: Oh, Trisha, thank you so much.

Trisha Stetzel: Absolutely. All right. Team Bob Deanna, fellow at Global Curiosity Institute and author of the memoir My Curious Life. If my grandkids ask about me, tell them this. Bob, thank you again. It’s been my pleasure. That’s all the time we have for today. If you found value in this conversation that I had with Bob today, please share it with a fellow entrepreneur, a veteran, or a Houston business leader. Ready to grow. Be sure to follow, rate, and review the show. It helps us reach more bold business minds just like yours and your business. Your leadership and your legacy are built one intentional step at a time. So stay inspired, stay focused, and keep building the business and the life you deserve.