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Should I Give a “Friends and Family” Discount?

February 23, 2022 by John Ray

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Friends and Family Discount

Should I Give a “Friends and Family” Discount?

Naturally, you want to help your friends and family, or possibly a charitable organization. Maybe they’ve been early clients, helping you get started in your professional services practice. Seeds of dysfunction for your business, however, can be sown with a friends and family discount. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] And hello again, I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey.

John Ray: [00:00:04] A few episodes ago, I spoke about ignoring the pricing advice of friends and family. Now, let’s come at friends and family another way. Should you offer a friends and family discount if you’re a professional services provider?

John Ray: [00:00:22] A few years ago, I was sitting with a solopreneur bookkeeper. We were talking about our business and our pricing strategy. And after some time, we took to review her pricing, her clients, and the associated work requirements of those clients. She stopped and sheepishly offered, “Well, there’s one more thing I should mention.” Oh, boy, I thought, here comes the real problem.

John Ray: [00:00:48] She went on to tell me she had several friends who needed help when they’d started their businesses, and she’d offered to do their bookkeeping at a heavily discounted rate. These arrangements were still in place after several years. I asked her, “Do you deliver your completed work for them at the same time you do for your other clients?” “Yes, more or less,” she replied. “And they’ve come to expect that because of the fine service you’ve given them, right?” “Yes,” she said. “And how are their businesses doing now?” I asked. “They’ve done well,” she said. “And, of course, they haven’t volunteered to pay your normal pricing now that they’ve got established businesses, have they?” Well, we both laughed because I already knew the answer to my question.

John Ray: [00:01:41] For professional services providers, here’s a major problem with friends and family discounts. They expect the same level of professional service that you give your clients who pay normal prices.

John Ray: [00:01:55] This bookkeeper had spoiled her friends by giving them a premium service offering, which now they’d come to expect as customary for the price they were paying. The fact that they were paying discounted rates had been forgotten.

John Ray: [00:02:12] Now, if you’re a videographer, let’s say, friends and family come to expect unlimited edits on their treasured video even though you’re giving them a big discount. If you’re an attorney, friends and family assume you’ll go to the ends of the Earth to help them with their case. If you’re a social media marketer, the expectation is for the same number of posts and level of engagement as all your other clients. And while you’re doing this work for your friends, air quotes, an existing client relationship that you have blows up because you haven’t given them the level of service they expect for the normal price they’re paying. Or, maybe a great new client comes along and you can’t take them on because you’re too busy. The latter scenario was the space this bookkeeper was occupying. She felt like she was at full capacity and couldn’t take on more clients when in fact her time was cluttered with these special arrangements, which were getting in the way of taking on great new clients.

John Ray: [00:03:21] This problem shows up with CPAs, accountants, and bookkeepers, too. I caught the disease one time myself. I had a non-profit that I had volunteered with and whose cause I strongly believed in, and they needed some accounting work done. The previous professional handling the work had volunteered their time and the work required wasn’t tedious. Well, I offered to do it at no charge because it was my contribution to a cause I believed in. The work was easy and it wouldn’t take a lot of my time. I thought that was an easy decision. Well, the problem it turned out later was that they wanted their work done at specific times, which conflicted with the work I was doing for full-paying clients. Stupidly, I didn’t go into the job thinking about this particular issue. And as we went on, they assumed I would deliver the work pretty much on demand. Well, after a few months, we mutually agreed that they needed to seek another arrangement.

John Ray: [00:04:26] So be very careful, professional services providers. These discounts and the associated work, they look innocuous at the beginning but the seeds of dysfunction in your business get planted, just waiting to grow.

John Ray: [00:04:44] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. If you’d like to check out our entire episode archive, go to pricevaluejourney.com or your favorite podcast app. And if you’d like to get in touch with me directly, you can email me, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

  

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire, and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

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John Ray is a Show Host and Producer and owns the North Fulton (Georgia) studio of Business RadioX®. John and his team work with B2B professionals to create and conduct their own podcast using The Generosity Mindset™ Method:  building and deepening relationships in a non-salesy way that translates into revenue for their business.

John also operates his own business advisory practice, Ray Business Advisors. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their value, their positioning and business development, and their pricing. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as consultants, coaches, attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is the author of The Generosity Mindset:  A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio and The Price and Value Journey. North Fulton Business Radio, the longest running podcast in the North Fulton region of Georgia, features a wide range of business and community leaders. The Price and Value Journey is devoted to solo and small firm professional services providers and covers issues such as pricing, value, and business development.

John and his wife, Dr. Monica Ray, a dedicated teacher with 28 years in education, are grateful for their blended family of 5 children, 5 grandchildren, and 5 pets.

John is a Deacon in the Episcopal Diocese of Atlanta.

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