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Waffles, Pricing, and Client Context

April 18, 2022 by John Ray

Waffles, Pricing, and Client Context
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Waffles, Pricing, and Client Context

Waffles, Pricing, and Client Context

A story about kids’ waffles, and how professional services providers miss the opportunity to price based on client context, while in doing so treat their best clients unfairly. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello again. I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey.

John Ray: [00:00:04] My son is a Waffle House fan and he has been since he was old enough to know what was going on. Waffle House is a 24/7, mostly breakfast, quick-serve restaurant based in Atlanta and covers a lot of the Southeast. In fact, there are some exits in the Atlanta and Georgia area where there’s a Waffle House on both sides of a freeway exit.

John Ray: [00:00:30] When my son was in preschool, his standard order at Waffle House for a long time involved a waffle. Kids’ waffles at Waffle House when he was that age were a dollar. Today, kids’ waffles with bacon are now $4.25. So this long ago gone value was indeed quite a deal. Now, if you’ve been to Waffle House, you know that all the waffles come out of the same-sized griddle, which you can see. So, it’s no big secret. A kid’s waffle, therefore, was priced significantly below an adult waffle even though the product was the same. Same waffle mix, same size, same plate, $1. This was a great deal for that age and stage when as much of the waffle ended up on the table and floor is in your kid’s mouth.

John Ray: [00:01:25] At a certain point, though, things changed on our Waffle House trips. One day my son, who was about five or six years old, changed his order. On this trip, I ask him, “Do you want your waffle?” He said yes. So to the server, I said, “A kids’ waffle for him.” He said, “Dad, I want an adult waffle.” The server stood there, her pen poised over her order pad, wondering what Dad’s next move was going to be. “The kids’ waffle and the adult waffle are the same size,” I said. “But, Dad, I want the adult waffle.” “It’s the same waffle, John. It comes out of the same griddle my waffle does you see over there.” And I pointed to the waffle griddle, but he was having none of it. “Dad, I want an adult waffle.”

John Ray: [00:02:21] Our server stood there looking at me with this expression on her face, something like, “Okay, Dad, what now? Now that you’re reasoning with a five-year-old is a complete flop.” At this point in that uncomfortable moment, when my kid is about ready to cry and the server is waiting, my willingness to pay shifted dramatically. “Okay. Get him an adult waffle.” I was suddenly willing to pay an adult price for that same exact waffle. If my server had told me that adult waffle prices had suddenly doubled for cheapskate dads with crying kids, I would probably have been willing to pay that amount.

John Ray: [00:03:07] A client’s willingness to pay is subject to context as well as the geography they find themselves in. Customers expect to pay more for a soda at the ballpark, for example, or the movie theater, even though it’s the same exact cola they enjoy for a lot less at home. Now, it should work the same way in services too. But sometimes professional services providers missed the mark on this.

John Ray: [00:03:39] Here’s a great example, and I’ve seen this repeatedly for bookkeepers who might have a client that walks in the door with the proverbial box full of receipts and they need to get their books in order by a certain time. And that certain time, of course, is going to require heaven and earth to be moved to get that done. Yet what does that bookkeeper sometimes do? Charge them the same amount and it’s often an hourly rate. That’s a whole nother subject. The same amount that they would a regular client always on time getting that bookkeeper everything that they need to keep the books in order on a regular basis.

John Ray: [00:04:28] A rush to completion time for the same work should command a premium price for the added benefit of speed. But sometimes service providers, like bookkeepers, for example, often miss this opportunity to differentiate. And it’s really not fair, frankly, even if those clients don’t know that your regular clients are paying the same price as the clients who are a mess and want something done at the last minute. It’s just not fair.

John Ray: [00:05:01] So, how does context work for the clients in your business? If you’re not factoring in context for your customers, your price is undoubtedly wrong.

John Ray: [00:05:15] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. Past episodes of this series can be found at pricevaluejourney.com. Or if you’d like to connect with me directly, you can do so by sending me a note, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

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John Ray is a Show Host and Producer and owns the North Fulton (Georgia) studio of Business RadioX®. John and his team work with B2B professionals to create and conduct their own podcast using The Generosity Mindset™ Method:  building and deepening relationships in a non-salesy way that translates into revenue for their business.

John also operates his own business advisory practice, Ray Business Advisors. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their value, their positioning and business development, and their pricing. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as consultants, coaches, attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is the author of The Generosity Mindset:  A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio and The Price and Value Journey. North Fulton Business Radio, the longest running podcast in the North Fulton region of Georgia, features a wide range of business and community leaders. The Price and Value Journey is devoted to solo and small firm professional services providers and covers issues such as pricing, value, and business development.

John and his wife, Dr. Monica Ray, a dedicated teacher with 28 years in education, are grateful for their blended family of 5 children, 5 grandchildren, and 5 pets.

John is a Deacon in the Episcopal Diocese of Atlanta.

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