Courtney Schutter and Tammy Lewis on Women in Business

Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Woodstock, Georgia. Welcome to women in business where we celebrate influential women making a difference in our community. Now here’s your host.

Lori Kennedy: [00:00:28] This is Lori Kennedy, and I’m your host today for women in business, powered by Business RadioX Stone Payton, our producer is also in the studio with us today. We’re grateful to have you tuned in with us and today we are interviewing Courtney Schutter. Did I say that right? Yes, you did. Ok? And Tami Lewis. So the first thing I’m going to do is I am going to ask each one of them to tell us about what they do and, you know, just their businesses and why they’re here. So I’m going to start with you, Courtney. Courtney, tell us what you do and how that plays out into your life and the community and that sort of thing.

Courtney Schutter: [00:01:03] Absolutely. So I am an ADHD life coach, so what I do is I help specifically parents with organization feeling overwhelmed, and we talk about the obstacles that are preventing them from getting to their goals, and we find ways to get over those obstacles.

Lori Kennedy: [00:01:24] Ok, so when you say parents, do you mean helping parents that have children with ADHD? Or do you mean helping parents or adults who have ADHD or both?

Courtney Schutter: [00:01:35] I can do both, but my passion is parents who are ADHD, because that’s that’s my story. So that’s why I got into this.

Lori Kennedy: [00:01:44] Yeah, well, I’m a parent who is ADHD without children in the home. Does that still count? Yes. Ok, good. I might need help.

Courtney Schutter: [00:01:54] Absolutely. Yes.

Lori Kennedy: [00:01:56] Absolutely awesome. Ok, and do you have a name for your business or do you operate on your own or how does that work?

Courtney Schutter: [00:02:02] Yes. So it’s ADHD Parent LLC.

Lori Kennedy: [00:02:06] Ah, OK, great. All right. Awesome, Tammy. Hey, hi. Tell us about what you do and how I know you have several things that you’re passionate about, so I want to hear about all of them.

Tammy Lewis: [00:02:18] Ok, well, thank you again for having me here. This is so awesome and a great opportunity just, you know, to meet other women and learn more about women in business. So my my journey has definitely changed. I was in corporate America for a while in the pharmaceutical industry, and I totally did a 360. So I’m actually in finance now, which has nothing to do with health or selling illegal pharmaceuticals. But but I did a total 360 in finance. I partner with my husband in our business, where we really do focus on helping people get on the right side of wealth with people at work and with money at work as well and life changes. And I’m pretty sure I’ll talk a little bit more about it. But I’m also a breast cancer survivor. So I started a nonprofit called Pink Pearl Hero, literally a week before my major major surgery, and it was because I didn’t see women who look like me talking about breast cancer and African-American women die at a higher rate. Oh wow. From it. So I was just like, why? You know, I was like, Somebody needs to talk about it, and I’m like, Well, why not you? Because your background is health, education. And then from that, which is not ironic. I always think things happen for a reason is I co-created a digital planner called One Dope Planner. It’s a digital organization planning experience. Pretty dope. But my partner actually was, as is, has been diagnosed with ADHD. So it’s again, I always say it’s divine that when you’re around certain people with, you know, places and that you go, So that’s me. So I’ve turned into a trilogy. I’m trying to figure out how to really say that. But you know, just from life, those are the three passions of mine.

Lori Kennedy: [00:04:10] Ok, I’m going to like, delve into each of those just a tad. Yes. First of all, I want to know more about this dope plan or like, how do you get it? What type of device do you need to use it on? Like what? Give me some details there. Like if I wanted to do this and be part of this, how do I join you in this?

Tammy Lewis: [00:04:28] So I mean, right now it’s just available on Instagram, so there’s a link where you can purchase it through Instagram. You do need like a tablet and you do need so, you know, iPads or like any type of PDF, you know, tablet you do need like a pen, you know, because it works better with like a stylus, you know, because people have asked me, What can I just, you know, purchase it and how does it work? And you do need to have certain software, but all that is laid out in like if you go check like the Instagram post on there. So we’ll be having more people because I don’t have time to do it, but we’ll be having more people kind of show how they use it just in their everyday lives. So and that actually came into play because when I was going through all my surgeries, I couldn’t carry anything over 10 pounds because I was like the Clevenger junkie, like I had. I had the top of the line lavenders because I always like to plan and organize. But when the surgery started to happen, my plastic surgeon said you can’t carry anything over 10 pounds and I said, Well, I got to figure this out because I still have a business that we’re running so I cannot not be organized. And so I learned, well, digital planning fell into my lap. It was a divine digital planning and I just started creating them, and it actually kept me busy during that process, too. So my mind was on that and not on where I currently was when I was going through that process.

Lori Kennedy: [00:05:57] That’s awesome. I do. I do. It seems to me like the more life I do, the more I realize that sometimes the hardest or the most difficult moments in our life are where things grow and bloom that take us to the next place, you know? And so the fact that you say that this planner came as a result of something that was, you know, a tragedy in your life and has turned it into a triumph? And that’s awesome and I of that. Mm hmm. I love that. Well, tell me a little about your story, Courtney. As far as like what led you to this place for such a time as this?

Courtney Schutter: [00:06:33] Yes. So I. Good things come out of tragedy sometimes. So I was let go from my insurance job. I was also in the insurance industry for 10 years, and I had no idea what I was going to do. I was a little bit panicked. I have a four year old, it’s just me and him and I had just been diagnosed with ADHD the summer before that. And you know, I was doing I was hyper focusing. That’s what ADHD people are really good at. And so I was hyper focusing and looking up all these things with ADHD. And I saw that there are ADHD life coaches and I thought, Well, what is that? I didn’t even know. I never even thought of a life coach, to be honest with you. And I looked into it, and it was one of those impulsive, a little bit impulsive ADHD things where I was like, Oh yes, that’s what I’m going to do. Shiny object. Let’s do it. And so I paid for the classes and just going through the certification process has made me learn so much about me how I function. It’s it’s been amazing. And it also explains a lot about like childhood because I was one of those ones where I was OK in school. I got, you know, talks too much on my report card, you know, every time they came out. But you know, my mom loves to tell this story that in high school, she she was a teacher. She met, she retired math teacher and she I was not doing well and she held a parent teacher conference. She was like, We need to talk. This is not acceptable.

Courtney Schutter: [00:08:16] And every single one of my teachers was like, Oh, but she’s so sweet, and she’s working so hard and it’s OK. And my mom is sitting there like, No, it’s not OK, she’s getting D’s. And, you know, it’s so. And we didn’t know at the time that there was anything going on in my brain. It was just I was struggling and we didn’t know I’m 35 years old back then. You didn’t really. It’s rare it did happen, but women really did not get diagnosed with ADHD, and it’s still very rare and we have to fight a lot harder to get our diagnosis. I actually had to convince my doctor to. I said, Listen, I’ve taken all these tests. I’ve talked to all my friends who know things. I need you to. What do we need to do to try this? Because I think this is what I have because before I was diagnosed, anxiety and depression and I thought, I’m not really depressed, I’m just really tired all the time. So, you know, so being let go from my job trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life and then just jumping in and finding my passion. But I also have a degree in psychology that was my my undergrad, so I always in insurance. I worked in claims. So I always kind of said, Oh, I use my degree because I’m making people. I’m calming them down. I’m making them feel better when they’re stressed out because they just got in a car accident, right? But now I really am going back to my roots and I’m it’s it’s been awesome. It’s been awesome

Lori Kennedy: [00:09:53] Ride. That is awesome. I love that. So tell me what hyperfocus means. Like, I just want to understand or I want everybody who’s listening plus me to understand what that means exactly.

Courtney Schutter: [00:10:06] Yes. So when a typical person, we a lot of the word is neurotypical. So if you don’t have ADHD, autism, those things you are neurotypical neurodivergent is autism, ADHD, et cetera. So neurotypical people get exact. I read about stuff and they’re like, Oh, yeah, this is this is great, let me read about this for about an hour and they learn some things and it’s great. Neurodivergent people are like, Oh, that’s so cool. Five months later, they know everything about that subject because they have just completely consumed their day to day because they have to know everything about it. And that’s what happened after I got my ADHD diagnosis one, I realized that I have always been doing that. But to that’s what allowed me to really learn all these things about ADHD and find out what I really want to do with that. But yes, it’s we just take everything to a little bit of an extreme.

Lori Kennedy: [00:11:14] Ok, well, I want to explore this more with you later. One on one. And personally, yes. Tami, tell us about the financial or wealth building part of what you’re doing. And I would love for you to mention some of your social media things that you have happening around that as well.

Tammy Lewis: [00:11:37] Yeah. So what I realized and this actually came more into play during the whole breast cancer journey is I started reading when you said that, I’m like, Oh, that’s me. Wait a minute. Yeah, I was like self-diagnosis, but

Courtney Schutter: [00:11:53] It

Tammy Lewis: [00:11:53] Happens. I started reading more about why women don’t have the wealth that we should be, you know, should have. And a lot of it is because we’re trying to win a game and we don’t understand like where we are on the board and we’re playing from behind because women actually make 80 cents for every dollar that a man makes. I mean, it’s not our rules, it’s just what it is. And so if you’re playing a game, you got to know what the rules are. And I think that’s I think women know that, but they don’t like know the dollar. And when you look at it by race, I mean, the separation happens even more. So I’m like, OK, so we’re all trying to win this game of, you know, wealth, but we’re all playing from behind and we’re not using the right tools. So one of the things that I share is like when I went through my breast cancer journey is, you know, I had certain things in place. So, you know, I talk about how I had life insurance in place. You know, nobody wants to think about death, but I actually had to because, you know, we didn’t know what was going on, you know? And I told my husband, I said, You know, well, worst case scenario, the kid’s financial future is set because we put those plans in place.

Tammy Lewis: [00:13:03] And outside of, you know what you know, benefits that you get in a corporate job and then, you know, just teaching people about investments. So, you know, I’ll, you know, take time and do workshops on that or just one on one just to put a plan in place because I had money making money for me while I was going through all the surgeries. But, you know, in entrepreneurship because we had a business that had passive income. I didn’t have to work. And you know, I tell people, when you have options, you heal differently because, you know, when you’re going through like chemo and radiation, you only have one or two options. You’re either working because you have to because you got to have benefits and keep money coming in or you can’t work at all because the side effects are too bad. But when you got options, you do, you just heal differently.

Lori Kennedy: [00:13:52] And so I would assume I was just going to say I would assume that the stress of having to have a full time position while you are going through something like that would just make it even harder. Yes. Harder to heal from because you now you’re adding stress to it as well, right?

Tammy Lewis: [00:14:08] And I just was talking to actually one of my sorority sisters who’s also a breast cancer survivor who actually went to see my plastic surgeon for some redo reconstruction. And she said, Yeah, he said it again. He said, you were just an anomaly the way that you healed and because everything I did was intentional. But I think I could be more intentional about it because I didn’t have all these other stressors that most women, you know, have going through that process. So that’s, you know, and one of my girlfriends who was one of my partners in pharmaceuticals. She said, So you know what this means, right? So this means that you can tell your story from you living through it and the things that you had in place. And you know, having your business that you can talk to other women about this is how you have, you know, multiple sources of income. This is how you get your finances in order. And, you know, just talk to them through what you live through at the same time.

Lori Kennedy: [00:15:07] Yeah, I love how all the pieces like I’m trying to get you to tell me about one thing, but it always flows right into the next. It’s like your whole life is all so interconnected you don’t have like this space for this and this space for this. It’s all together because you do have this women of wealth. Social media and then you also with the breast cancer thing, I want you to tell me about these boxes or something that you were talking about in reference to that. I want to hear more about that. So tell me about those two things.

Tammy Lewis: [00:15:39] So the women are wealth like I. I started like a private group just so we can just start having wealth conversations. And, you know, most people think I’m just talking about finance. No health as wealth. You know, mindset is wealth, because if you have a bad mindset, then I mean, you’re not making any money because you’re just kind of like all over the place. And so bringing a platform where we can have safe conversations about that and again, going through the breast cancer, I, it’s like, OK. So I really need to do something with this. And when I was in the Woodstock business club for like the first time I was there, it was actually last March. And actually, Giselle came up to me and she said, You know, I wanted to introduce myself. I invited actually this person and this person. So we kind of went down the list and she said, and there’s probably seven other women in this room who know who you are, but you don’t know who they are. Oh, wow. And that’s when I said, OK, so this thing is really getting big. So it’s it’s an opportunity number one, to have wealth conversations on health mindset and wealth. But also what it’s turned into is I want it to be a platform for other women who are entrepreneurs to showcase their business.

Lori Kennedy: [00:16:54] Yeah, it’s

Tammy Lewis: [00:16:54] Awesome. You know, at the same time. So we’re working on what we’re actually going to do with it. So I’ve talked to some other women and just some of the relationships that I’ve had with other women and not just here, but it’s also like I went back and looked at the analytics because I’m a little analytical. And yeah, I mean, we have women from Atlanta, like all areas of Atlanta and in Nashville, in St. Louis and Houston and Dallas, parts of Jersey, New York. We got people in Boise, Idaho. I mean, it’s just. But it’s that, you know, six feet of separation that has happened and it’s like it’s own like growing organism.

Lori Kennedy: [00:17:39] So how many how many members of this social media?

Tammy Lewis: [00:17:45] So right now, when I last counted, we’re right at 1300 getting ready to tip over to 14, and that’s only because it’s private now. So like I know, as soon as we release it, it’s just going to turn into its own beast. So I just want to make sure a couple of things are in place before we do that. So we’re really supporting women in that process, not just kind of being another women’s group.

Lori Kennedy: [00:18:09] Yeah, yeah. I love the strategy behind that. So tell me about these boxes that we had talked about at one point in time. I want everybody to hear what you want to do.

Tammy Lewis: [00:18:17] So when I was when we started the Pink Pearl hero, it was like, So what are we going to do? Because I have some girlfriends who like valid is hope. One of my girlfriends in St. Louis, she does recliners for women who have double mastectomies. I would have never thought of that until I went through it, and it was like my saving grace. It was like my bed from October to October to the next May because of just the type of surgery. So what I decided was a couple of girlfriends of mine in St. Louis would send me a box once a month and I always like, look forward to the box and had funny things and it had t it had a mask and it it had like gift cards to Pinero, a Starbucks, T-shirts, all that stuff. And I said, Well, what am I going to do or what are we going to do to give back? So I decided, let’s do this hero box, because that was one of the things that I always look forward to. And that’s a way that someone can support another breast cancer survivor, even if they’re not in the same city as them.

Tammy Lewis: [00:19:22] So the hero box and so I took it a step further because, you know, big on supporting women in their businesses is let’s put contents of the box only from women’s businesses so we can support other women in their businesses. So that’s what we’re in the process of doing. And I’ve met some phenomenal women in the journey of doing that and even from things because we even talked about, you know, little things about getting, you know, oil change or car repair. I mean, it may sound like, OK, why would you put that in the box? I’m like, because the car still has to be repaired when you’re going, you know, through that process. And there are so many women. And I think that’s the only thing that keeps me talking about my journey is because there’s so many women who go through this alone. And, you know, and even some of my friends are like, Yeah, I just, you know, they have family members who don’t know they had breast cancer. Wow. Because that’s just their choice and I respect their choice. And so for me, I’m just like, Well, I’ll just be your voice now.

Lori Kennedy: [00:20:22] So that’s awesome. Yeah. Wow. So, Courtney, I want to hear about. How people like are able to know about. What you do and how they find you like, how does somebody come across, how do how would I have come across? Yeah, yeah. Like, I mean, I found you on social media, right? But it just was kind of by

Courtney Schutter: [00:20:45] Accident, which I’m so happy for.

Lori Kennedy: [00:20:47] Yes, I am, too. And I can’t wait for us to be a little

Courtney Schutter: [00:20:50] Obsessed with him. You know, I have to admit she’s awesome.

Lori Kennedy: [00:20:52] Yeah. Tammy is awesome.

Courtney Schutter: [00:20:54] Can we just ask her more questions?

Lori Kennedy: [00:20:56] You know, we want to hear from you, too. I know

Tammy Lewis: [00:20:58] Because I’m over here self-diagnosing,

Lori Kennedy: [00:21:01] Right?

Courtney Schutter: [00:21:01] Yes. Well, no. So I am most active on Instagram, so my Instagram is connected to my Facebook page. So it’s ADHD parent. Eighty six on Instagram, and that’s where I go live. I post a lot. I repost a lot of people who are self-diagnosing themselves with ADHD. They get it from Tok, which is fantastic. There’s a lot of good information out there, but there is a lot of not correct information out there, so I just would encourage everyone to just do their own research. You know, love the Tik Tok videos. Love the Instagram even. But yeah, and then go. And my favorite place that I go for a lot of my information is called Attitude Magazine. Its aid attitude. Oh, that’s cool. And so they have all these experts and a lot of different information about what ADHD is, what it is not. But yes, where you can find me is mostly on Instagram. That’s where I just talk, usually to myself, it’s fine. I love it. Actually, I go live it. No one’s there. I’m just like, Well, I’m just going to pretend I’m talking to you guys. And I just, you know, and usually some people will watch it afterwards and comment. But and then I have my own I have two websites, so Courtney Schutter is my just official coaching. That’s all it is. Is coaching and then ADHD. The parent is my blog. But in true ADHD fashion, I have three posts on my blog because I was so excited to become a blogger. And then it was like, Oh, wait, this is boring. I don’t want to do this, so I do want to get more into it. But again, this I’m a baby business. I just started even thinking about this in May. Oh, wow, yes.

Lori Kennedy: [00:23:08] Well, is this something that can be like connected to psychology or like, could you be on some sort of insurance type of thing where somebody could get so insurance?

Courtney Schutter: [00:23:21] No, it’s not. It’s not covered on insurance and it’s not like therapy counseling. But I do work with a lot of other coaches and you can go and buy regular advertising, things like that. The main body that kind of looks over all of life coaching is called the International Coaching Federation, so they’re the ones that are making sure that everyone’s kind of doing coaching in a similar manner. Ok, but yeah, all of it, you have to pay to get your name on there. And again, I’m a baby business. So yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lori Kennedy: [00:23:59] I just didn’t know how all that worked because it sounds like it should be something that is part of it. Should counseling or something of that nature, you know?

Courtney Schutter: [00:24:09] And I always encourage people coaching is not therapy, so what I’ll do is either I’ll have a conversation with somebody and I’ll realize they may be better suited for therapy because therapy, I think a lot is dealing with past traumas. Talking about the past, figuring out how to maybe get over those types of things, coaching is all about the future. It’s here’s where I am, and here’s where I want to be. How do I get there? And people just get stuck. I mean, I just talked to somebody yesterday that they had this great idea to fix a problem that they had, but they have no idea how to implement that fix. They’re like, I know this will work for me, but I cannot bring myself to actually do it. And it was like, OK, we can work on that. We can get there. It’s very similar to. Like, you hire a fitness coach, you’re like, OK, I’m here in my weight or my fitness level and I want to be here, but I cannot do it on my own. So can you get me there? And that’s what a life coach does, especially with people with ADHD. I think we tend to get stuck more often because we have a lot of stuff going on. And, you know, a lot of ideas, a lot of shiny new objects that we get so excited about, and it’s so hard to rein it in and think, OK, this is what I’m going to focus on today. Even I do. I mean, I have all the tools of a coach, you know, I know what I’m doing, and I still struggle with it sometimes. So it’s a work in project process.

Lori Kennedy: [00:25:46] Always, yeah. Ok, so the next question is, I want to know who’s in your household. So let’s start with you, Courtney.

Courtney Schutter: [00:25:54] I have my son who is four and two dogs and a cat. Oh, yes, it is. I just moved my office upstairs to my bedroom because where my house sits, the sun only hits one side of my house and I have to have that sunshine. Otherwise, I’m just like, Oh, it’s nap time, OK, let’s do that all day long. Even on medication, I’m just like, No, I can take a nap. That’s fine. So, yes, but my dogs were there little 10 pound dogs and they bark at everything.

Lori Kennedy: [00:26:29] So I have little ones too. What kind of

Courtney Schutter: [00:26:31] Ears? Bishan and having knees. Ok, I have Pomeranians.

Lori Kennedy: [00:26:36] Oh, and they bark at everything, too.

Courtney Schutter: [00:26:38] Yes. Jacki’s my next dog will be a German Shepherd.

Lori Kennedy: [00:26:42] German shepherds are

Courtney Schutter: [00:26:43] Beautiful. They’re my secret. They’re my favorite.

Lori Kennedy: [00:26:46] Yes. Well, Tammy, who is in your house?

Tammy Lewis: [00:26:48] Well, so we’re going through a transition because so my oldest is in college in Nashville and my youngest is graduating. She’s a senior and so she’ll be leaving the nest, so we’ll be empty nesters. And so I’m like, everybody is like, Are you excited? I’m like, Actually, I’m not because I’m so, you know, it’s always been them. And of course, I’m sorry my husband too.

Courtney Schutter: [00:27:14] Oh yeah. Oh yeah, the other big kid, right?

Tammy Lewis: [00:27:19] And we do have a little dog. We have a it’s a Yorkie, Shih-Tzu, Shawki Zoo, which that breed is got, you know, detachment issues, I think, for families, but which we’ve been informed from my older daughter that as soon as she gets her apartment in Nashville, she’s taking the dog too. So I was like, OK, so yeah, so Lauren, our youngest, it’ll be going to SCAD in the fall, but she’s going to be in, you know, in Atlanta, on campus there. So that’s who’s in the house, kind of in the house, but we’ll be empty nesters. So.

Lori Kennedy: [00:27:55] So why don’t you tell me? Tammy, about a mistake that you made in your business and what you learned from it.

Tammy Lewis: [00:28:03] Oh, I think I’ve made a lot of mistakes. I think one of the biggest mistakes always has to do with people. And, you know, in any business, I think especially when you have people that work with you is really not like listening. Like, you kind of hear them, but like really listening to what they’re saying and not clarifying and just assuming this is, you know, this is what I think I heard you say. And really just taking a step back, you know, the whole process, like he said, what I heard was. And taking that step where I just kind of like assumed and went on like a whole nother tangent and realizing that I mean, my like my agents, my agents are my customers. And you know, the customer is, you know, always, right? So you still have to kind of take that step to to listen. And I think, you know, a couple of times where I’ve made people mistakes is not taking that extra step to say, All right, well, maybe what you’re thinking and what they’re saying is two different things. So just take a step back, clarify, ask the question, just be humble about it. And then, you know, kind of go from there.

Lori Kennedy: [00:29:18] So, yeah, that’s great. Courtney, what about you?

Courtney Schutter: [00:29:22] So when I first thought about this question, I thought, Well, I’m too new. I haven’t made any mistakes. But now that you’ve said that, not that I have made any mistakes with other people yet because it is just me, but not listening to myself. So I was I’m past that point now, but I was being very wishy washy about who I wanted to coach. And then when it wasn’t working out immediately, I thought, OK, maybe I just need to go back to what I know insurance and maybe not get out of the coaching space per say. But, you know, start coaching insurance agents, which would have been months of retraining. And I thought, you know, finally, I just said, OK, no, no, no. Trust your gut. This is what you’re passionate about. So I think that would be, you know, my main takeaway and what I have to just try and remember consistently is trust your gut, you know, and don’t and just go with it. You know, this is what you’re good at. It may be a little bit of a slow start. Yeah, but again, I just started in May. So yeah, it’s great. It’s it’s, you know, you can’t expect things overnight to happen, but I do love that. I love what you said about taking a step back and making sure that you are understanding what people are actually saying to you and what they’re understanding because that’s big in coaching. It’s like, this is what I’m hearing you say you want to work on or this is what I’m hearing you say, making sure you have that understanding because people’s brains, you know, work differently and not just if they have ADHD, everybody, right? So getting that clarity is so important with all relationships.

Lori Kennedy: [00:31:13] What are some misconceptions about your industry?

Courtney Schutter: [00:31:17] So I think the biggest thing is people just don’t know about life coaches, especially that there are specific life coaches for people with ADHD. I know the courses that I took at the iaCt center, she the woman who runs them. She started them years ago, but it’s always been kind of a small, small school. And now finally, I think partly because of the pandemic, it’s just blown up, you know, because a lot of people are giving themselves permission to work on their mental health because we’re all struggling right now and a lot of people. There was a meme and I can’t remember the numbers, but it said women who took an online test to find out if their ADHD in Twenty Seventeen was like 1100 women who took an online test to find out if their ADHD in twenty twenty two was like twenty five hundred. I mean, it’s absolutely it’s just crazy because partly we are very under-diagnosed. We mask very well. Masking is when you you realize that you’re different and so you do whatever you need to do to fit in with everybody else, which also can then cause anxiety because you’re just not able to be yourself at all. So, yeah, and I lost my train of thought hashtag D

Lori Kennedy: [00:32:49] Did I think, don’t we all do that or

Tammy Lewis: [00:32:52] Yeah, actually a diagnosis in the DSM four? Yeah, to the it’s called postpartum amnesia. I’ve been using it for 20 years.

Courtney Schutter: [00:33:00] Yes. Yeah. There’s. There’s the normal rate, and then there’s the ADHD rate where you’re like, just OK by thought it was nice knowing you when I had you?

Lori Kennedy: [00:33:10] Well, so do you typically do Zoom? Is that how you do that?

Courtney Schutter: [00:33:15] Ok? All online? Yes. Ok. Yeah. So I’m international. So coaching, there’s no regulation. As far as like, I don’t have to have a license in each state, so it’s all Zoom and it’s whatever country, city, state, whatever I can.

Lori Kennedy: [00:33:32] Is it typically one hour sessions? Is that how you do it? Ok, yep.

Courtney Schutter: [00:33:36] So one hour. So I think one hour a week they can contact me throughout the week. Like if there’s a quote unquote emergency, they can message me through my client management system. And yeah, and then I offer 12 weeks or twenty four weeks. And right now what I’m doing, especially because, like I said, ADHD people can tend to quickly sign up for things or, oh, that’s going to work for me. I know this is going to fix me, which is one of the things I don’t do in my coaching is we’re not trying to fix you, but that’s how they think. They’re like, I’m going to be normal. It’s like, No honey, you don’t need to be normal. You’re perfect, but I do three weeks at a sliding scale. So essentially what you can afford for three weeks, and that gives people typically an understanding of if coaching is going to work for them, if that’s what they thought it was going to be. And then after that, then that’s when we sign up for they decide the 12 or 24

Lori Kennedy: [00:34:42] Weeks, OK? I love that.

Courtney Schutter: [00:34:44] Yeah, it just gives them kind of a, you know, a better idea of what coaching is and how I can help them. And I don’t want to be another app that you forget to cancel and then it just keeps renewing. And then, you know, $500 later. It’s like, Oh my god, I keep forgetting to cancel this. You know, I don’t need to be that. I don’t need you to sign up for the whole 12 weeks and then realize three weeks in. This is not what I thought it was going to be. So I like to give people that kind of trial.

Lori Kennedy: [00:35:16] Yeah, I love that. I appreciate that. Yeah. Tami, tell me about some misconceptions or a misconception in your industry.

Tammy Lewis: [00:35:25] Well, I mean, I think one of the biggest misconceptions, I think from a client perspective is that people. Like, like they don’t want to get their finances in order, like some people just don’t know where to start. Yeah, and I’ve met, you know, folks anywhere from like, this is all I have, you know? But I got to start somewhere to people who make six figures and say, I just never sat down and did it. And you know, like, they just I do the stuff you know, that my employer has. But there was never a plan in place, and I think it’s just some people just, you know, it’s just, you know, they’re they’re just working kind of like just in them on the treadmill, just kind of just working. And they’ve never stopped to say, I really need to put a plan in place. And I think like, especially like our Gen Xers know, not Gen Z or Gen Xers. I mean, we’re now at a point where it’s like, Oh, retirement is like in 20 years, and I never really like sat down and really put a plan in place. I just been kind of winging it the whole time. So and then I think the other misconception is like these younger folks, you know, they’re, you know, I do call them like kind of the juice box generation. They want instant gratification. But there are a handful out there that are just like, Look, I ain’t trying to do like, you know, my mom and my dad did, I got to do something different or I’m going to be stuck in this, you know, in this cycle. So I think there’s there’s more of that now in pockets than ever before.

Lori Kennedy: [00:37:05] Ok, do you have a message that is for women specifically?

Tammy Lewis: [00:37:10] Yes. Yes. Can you

Lori Kennedy: [00:37:13] Tell? I can.

Courtney Schutter: [00:37:14] I can. Big, deep breath go.

Tammy Lewis: [00:37:17] You know? And and here’s here’s why can I can I take a second to say, Wow,

Lori Kennedy: [00:37:20] You absolutely can. I just think it’s funny because I’ve read through these questions and I’m like, Oh, we’re answering them naturally. Like, I don’t I can’t even ask half of my questions because it’s just automatically come out. But yes, tell us.

Tammy Lewis: [00:37:32] So I think, well, a couple couple of reasons why it’s number one. Just through my own personal experience of going through breast cancer and having options in life is all about options. And I think the other thing is is just from sitting from on. The financial part of it is seeing women like I met. I met a lady who had been married for years over 20 years, and her husband dies and there’s not enough life insurance. So now she has to sell the house. She had an estate sale and she lives with her son in his basement because there wasn’t enough and she just never, she said. I just never thought to have the conversation and not saying that, you know, that’s just, you know, her husband just didn’t. They just never had the conversation and she thought that everything would be OK. So I’m a little different when I talk to couples, I always ask the wife. I said, he dies, what happens to you? And like, lay it out, tell me step by step. And a lot of women don’t know and vice versa, because I’ve seen the wife die and the husband have to figure it out where they had to get a nanny and had to have somebody come in like those little things. People don’t think about. So my message for women is if, if, if you’re married or not married, if you’re, you know, if you’re a single mom, a stay at home mom, if you don’t have a husband or a kid, you know, what is the plan? And if somebody said, Go, can you recite the plan like, you know, like for me, I shared because of this experience.

Tammy Lewis: [00:39:06] One of the things that we did is, I, you know, I was like, OK, well, this is real. So we’ve really got to put a better plan in place is, you know, I told my husband, something happens to me here the five accounts, and here’s where all the money needs to go. Nobody, again, nobody wants to talk about that. But now there’s an ease like if something still happens because something is going to happen one day. I mean, it’s like, I don’t know why people don’t realize you are going to die one day. So you just don’t. We don’t want to think about it. But the thing is, is that wealthy people think about it. That’s part of the plan like and that’s why they have generational wealth, because it’s part of the plan. So, you know, even like talking to Taylor, you know, our oldest now that she’s 20, I’m like, OK, so we need to redo our will because you’re 20 and you kind of know our business. And so putting those plans in place, because once you do it, then you don’t have to do it again and you can rest easy at night and you can really, really enjoy life and not be the wife that I met, whose husband is no longer here.

Tammy Lewis: [00:40:08] So she can’t even grieve because, you know, the house that she’s been in for years, she can no longer be in. So that makes me sad. I know me too, me too. And I hear it more so you know than not. I mean, and there was another case where the wife was. She stayed at home with the kids. Husband was in corporate, and these are fi. These are none of my clients. These are just stories that kind of, you know, brought more passion. And he goes, you drive. He’s on his motorcycle and he dies. And he’s making, you know, good income because you stayed at home, but they were like living in a half million dollar house. All that gone because it just wasn’t enough to plan for it. Wow. So it’s just no. Whatever the plan is, put the plan in place and on the good side and on for retirement. Unless you plan on working like you know how you see. Well, I don’t know. But like if you go to Wal-Mart, like it just burns. It burns me, and it makes me sad when I see older women working. Yeah, like over 70. Mm hmm. Still working? Yeah. Right. So like that shouldn’t.

Courtney Schutter: [00:41:22] Yeah, have the uncomfortable conversations. That’s me. I love them. Yeah. Conversations with people I love. I love to get awkward. But yeah,

Tammy Lewis: [00:41:30] Because, you know, it just makes people just start think like, Oh my gosh, and that’s what you know, struck me as I was like, Yeah, I was making great money in corporate, but I didn’t have a plan. Mm hmm.

Lori Kennedy: [00:41:41] So Courtney, is there a specifically for women? Is there a message that you

Courtney Schutter: [00:41:48] Have for that? Yeah, definitely. Go for your dreams. So, you know, I spent probably too many months trying to get back in the industry that I had been in that I knew. And then I finally decided to actually just forget it. Go for it. And I’m a single mom and it’s a big risk to decide I’m going to work for myself. I this is my business is my company. I know I can do this, but I also have days where I’m like, Oh my God, what was I thinking? This is not. This is terrible, but I just, I just keep going. And then the other thing really is take up space. You know, we do not. We shrink ourselves, which causes anxiety, and we just need to stop. We need to stop shrinking ourselves to make other people uncomfortable, make other people comfortable. Yeah. You know, I still do it to an extent. I catch myself, but it’s a hard habit to break. Yeah. You know, and especially women with ADHD, even if they don’t know it, they are much more susceptible to doing that because we’re so often told that we’re wrong. We’re doing it wrong. You’re, you know, you’re not being ladylike because especially women with ADHD, we have a really hard time being traditional women. We talk too much. We’re we’re too much for people, and I just would love every single woman ADHD or not to just get over it, you know, as best we could and just say, you know what, I’m going to take up all this space. And if it makes you uncomfortable, that’s your problem. That’s not my problem. So that’s, you know, I’m very passionate about that clearly.

Lori Kennedy: [00:43:38] Yeah, no. I mean, I think embracing who you are is something, yes, that a lot of women struggle with. And I think that the message of you are, OK, you are good enough, you are amazing. The way you are is something that needs to be retrained and a lot of brains.

Courtney Schutter: [00:43:59] And it is. It’s very, very difficult. I mean, I posted something. I mean, it was ADHD specific, but about ADHD being a superpower? Well, it’s not always a superpower. Sometimes it feels like kryptonite. You’re just like, I literally can’t get off the couch today. That’s just that’s that’s what’s going to happen today. I’m doing nothing but to be able to find that superpower is so important, but I posted it on a women’s ADHD and got torn apart. Oh no, because they said, because they don’t feel it and they and they are not in the space right now to be able to believe it, that they can be, that they can use this as their superpower.

Lori Kennedy: [00:44:39] Don’t you think, though, don’t both of you think and you too stone, don’t you all think that our superpower and our kryptonite are typically the same thing? Just one of them is managed and one is unbridled?

Tammy Lewis: [00:44:52] Yes, I would agree. Yeah.

Lori Kennedy: [00:44:54] Like when I when when you know, like if you’re in an interview and somebody says, What is your weakness? Well, you’re supposed to turn it around as your strength. But in reality, it’s probably the same thing. Your strength and your weakness is the same thing. Yeah, it’s just one of them. You’ve you’ve got a handle on. And then in some cases, it’s out of your grasp, so to speak.

Courtney Schutter: [00:45:16] Yeah. Absolutely. Like with ADHD, one of the people that people that people complain about is talking too much. I wish I could just shut up and stop talking, but I can’t. But then you can flip it and say, I’m really easy to talk to. Right? And so, yeah, absolutely. It can go both ways. It’s just a matter of being able to get to that mindset of, yes, this is a positive thing, and I’m going to use it as such and not everybody can get there.

Lori Kennedy: [00:45:47] It’s hard. Yeah, well, I love that that it’s your life’s mission to ensure that as many people get there as possible. Yes. And Courtney, how can people get in touch with you? Give us all of your things. I know you’ve done it already, but we’re going to have it right here. You know, packed in at the end.

Courtney Schutter: [00:46:04] Yeah, absolutely. So Instagram is ADHD parent. Eighty six. My website is ADHD Dash parent or Kourtney Shutter C o u r t and e.y s c h u ttr. Awesome. Yes.

Lori Kennedy: [00:46:26] And Tami, tell people how to get in touch with you.

Tammy Lewis: [00:46:29] Yes. So I guess because of my business, my, you know, in the brokerage, it’s really just my personal. So on Instagram is probably the easiest way. It’s Tami gluey. So it’s nothing like, you know, fancy because of that. But as far as, like the Pink Pearl hero on Facebook and Instagram, it is pink pearl hero altogether. And for the planner, it’s one dope planner. So it’s the number one d o p e so p like Paul E Planner and that’s on Facebook and Instagram. And now on Tik Tok. I wish I could just I mean, that’s why we’re hiring other people to do it. And when you said that about the kryptonite, I think my girlfriend and I, she’s an entrepreneur as well, and we both figured it out. We’re professional extroverts, but we’re personal introverts. Yes, because I’m really an introvert and people are like, No way. I’m like,

Courtney Schutter: [00:47:28] Yes, I’m going to go home and take a nap because all of this Typekit like, really,

Tammy Lewis: [00:47:33] I’m just like, Can I go back to the beach? That’s all I really want to do. So.

Lori Kennedy: [00:47:37] So Tami Lewis is with a Y and an e w e w.

Tammy Lewis: [00:47:41] Yes, OK. Just with Tami

Lori Kennedy: [00:47:43] Lewis from St. Louis, I knew that. But yeah, I wanted to make sure others could find you.

Courtney Schutter: [00:47:49] And then one is the number is the number one.

Lori Kennedy: [00:47:52] Yes. Yes, any last minute amazingness.

Tammy Lewis: [00:47:56] I think this is amazing. Yeah, you

Lori Kennedy: [00:47:57] Know, it’s fun.

Tammy Lewis: [00:47:58] I’ve seen personally, I’ve seen a shift in the U.S. with women, and I like I was seeing it. But now it’s kind of like I am woman. Hear me, wore your roar. And then when the pandemic happened, I think a lot of women actually pivoted and they were just like, You know what, this, you know, baby that I had on the shelf or this this feeling I had inside. Dang it, I’m going to do it and I’m going to do it guns blazing. And I think we’re seeing a lot of that now. So if there’s women listening, if you know, if you got that, that urge just I mean, literally just just do it because the world is waiting on, you definitely will meet you and the world needs you for sure.

Courtney Schutter: [00:48:38] Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. We need to be heard. And like I said, we need to take up more space for sure.

Lori Kennedy: [00:48:44] For sure. Awesome. Well, remember, if you already know everything, then you are sure to learn nothing. Lori Kennedy signing

Courtney Schutter: [00:48:51] Off.