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Plumber Pricing

January 20, 2023 by John Ray

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Professional services providers, the speed with which you execute an engagement is a feature and should be priced as one. A recent experience I had with a plumber illustrates the point.

The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello. I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. In my last episode of this series, I talked about my recent superb experience with the plumber, using that story to make the point that how we show up is an intangible value to our clients. This plumber came to our house on a Friday night a few hours after I called him to diagnose the problem. After doing that, he said he could be back the next morning on a Saturday to perform the necessary repairs. Unfortunately for him, though, my experience with this plumber was further elevated by his pricing. What do I mean by that? Well, even though he delivered his service so quickly and efficiently, his price was well below the estimate I received from another plumber who I could never get to show up.

Even with offering the intangibles of both reliability and speed of service, this five-star plumber didn’t price his service to reflect the client perceived value of those intangibles. Professional services providers, the speed with which you execute an engagement is a feature and should be priced as one. Bookkeepers for example, when you’re producing financials by the 15th of every month, that should be priced at a premium relative to engagements which call for the end of the month. Yet so many bookkeepers I’ve run into price all their clients at their same hourly rate, which highlights just one of the many problems with hourly pricing but that’s another subject.

Here’s another example. At year end, some professionals like attorneys or business valuation experts will have clients who, with little or no warning, come walking in with a project which needs to be completed by December 31st. Price the needed velocity. When confronted with a premium price, such clients will make their own determination as to how important that year in closing is and therefore how much they value your project and the outcome you deliver. Speed is value, price it.

I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. Go to pricevaluejourney.com to learn more about my work, including a link to the show archive of this series, which you can also subscribe to on your favorite podcast app. And I’d be honored if you would do that, if you’re not already a subscriber. When you go to pricevaluejourney.com, you can also sign up to receive updates on my new book coming out in 2023. The title of the book is The Price and Value Journey, Raise Your Confidence, Your Value and Your Prices to Grow Your Business Using the Generosity Mindset. If you’d like to email me directly, feel free, John@JohnRay.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire, and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,700 podcast episodes.

Coming in 2023:  A New Book!

John’s working on a book that will be released in 2023:  The Price and Value Journey: Raise Your Confidence, Your Value, and Your Prices to Grow Your Business Using The Generosity Mindset. The book covers topics like value and adopting a mindset of value, pricing your services more effectively, proposals, and essential elements of growing your business. For more information, contact John below.

Connect with John Ray:

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The Value of Showing Up

January 18, 2023 by John Ray

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“I’m a great plumber because I show up.” My recent experience with a plumber illustrates the high intangible value clients often place on just showing up.

The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

TRANSCRIPT

John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello. I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. The value of showing up. Recently, we had a leak in our basement, which was coming from a crack in the main water line from the street. We got a recommendation for a plumber. I called the guy, and he came out that day to check out the problem. “Give me a couple of days and I’ll get you an estimate”, he said. Well, that didn’t seem like a big weight, particularly as long as it takes to get home services help these days. The leak was minor and manageable, until it wasn’t. Days went by as I chased this plumber for an estimate and a time that he could come fix the problem. Finally, I got an estimate, but then I couldn’t get him to come and follow up on the work so I just gave up.

I got another recommendation. And after talking to this guy, he came out that very evening on a Friday night, mind you, diagnose the problem, proposed a solution, named his price, and said he could get going at 10 a.m. the next morning. That’s Saturday. Needless to say, he got hired. And the next morning, after finishing the work and preparing to leave, I told him he was a great plumber. “I’m a great plumber because I show up”, he said.

Well, I’m not offering you a searing new insight to say that showing up is one of the table stakes of having a business. But here’s the larger point, how you show up, whether early, late or not at all, is an intangible, one of thousands that are deciding factors on whether you get engaged. As my new plumber implied in his comment, he gets hired because of an intangible which has nothing to do with his proficiency at plumbing. When I hired him, I didn’t ask him what plumbing school he attended, his certifications, or experience. It didn’t matter to me because his expertise was assumed. I’d received a recommendation from someone I trusted. The referral was what gave him the opportunity for my business and intangible is what got him hired.

For professional services providers, it’s the same for you. Word of mouth and referrals may be the wellspring of your practice, but intangibles are what you scoop up the water with. Yes, cultivate the clients who refer you and cultivate your strategic referral partners. But you’ll be even more informed about why you’re closing business if you’ll make it a practice of asking your clients early in the engagement a question somewhat like this. What was the tipping point that made you decide to hire me? Ask questions like this and you’ll discover the intangibles which gets you hired.

I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. Past episodes of this series can be found at pricevaluejourney.com or on your favorite podcast app. And if you go to a pricevaluejourney.com, you can sign up to get notification of my new book and updates on my new book as they come out. It’s coming out in 2023 and the book is called The Price and Value Journey, Raise Your Confidence, Your Value, And Your Prices to Grow Your Business Using the Generosity Mindset. You’re also welcome to email me directly, John@JohnRay.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire, and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,700 podcast episodes.

Coming in 2023:  A New Book!

John’s working on a book that will be released in 2023:  The Price and Value Journey: Raise Your Confidence, Your Value, and Your Prices to Grow Your Business Using The Generosity Mindset. The book covers topics like value and adopting a mindset of value, pricing your services more effectively, proposals, and essential elements of growing your business. For more information, contact John below.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

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Value in a Worthless Lottery Ticket

April 11, 2022 by John Ray

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Is there value in a worthless lottery ticket? Yes, and it’s a perfect illustration of how our prospective clients (and all of us, actually) make buying decisions based on intangibles which have nothing to do with our services, experience, or credentials. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

TRANSCRIPT

John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello again. I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey.

John Ray: [00:00:03] The largest single lottery pool in United States history was a Powerball jackpot of 1.6 billion in January 2016. Three winners in California, Tennessee, and Florida each had the option of receiving a $533 million pre-tax annuity or a lump sum payment of 327.8 million. Now, the odds of picking the correct six numbers in such a lottery are one in 300 million. Now, expressed another way, the chances of success in this game are essentially 0.00000033. Yes, essentially zero.

John Ray: [00:00:54] Now, any logical analysis of this purchase would deem these lottery tickets to be essentially worthless. So why would anyone spend $2 to buy what is basically a worthless piece of paper? Moreover, why would they stand in long lines like thousands did in the days that led up to that drawing to buy a ticket, which essentially has no monetary value? What drives the purchases of these tickets? Well, hopes and dreams, for one. The dream might be to pay off the mortgage or student loans or both. Maybe they want to buy a house for mom or something more extravagant, like a vacation home in Spain or Costa Rica. Maybe it’s an around-the-world cruise.

John Ray: [00:01:44] Whatever the motivation, visualizing the realization of that dream is something lottery ticket buyers receive. It’s intangible. Buyers are also motivated by identification. Everyone else is buying, so maybe you ought to give it a shot. Another motivation is the fear of missing out. It’s the I can’t win if I don’t play thinking.

John Ray: [00:02:09] Now, where I live here in the state of Georgia, lottery proceeds fund scholarships to in-state colleges. Some buyers, while accepting the extremely long odds, justify their purchase as a contribution to education. What’s the common thread in all these motivations? They are all intangible. Clients buy for intangible reasons which have nothing to do with the features and benefits of the product or service or what you might think might be logical about those products or services. This is true for all customers and everything they buy. This is true for you. This is true for me. Everything. Everyone.

John Ray: [00:02:58] And if you’re a professional services provider, you might think it’s different for you and you’d be wrong. Your clients aren’t any different. They’re motivated by their own mix of intangibles, many of which have nothing to do with your features and benefits. They will buy from you based on reasons you might think are crazy, meaningless, silly, or irrational. They will also turn down your pitch or even fire you based on reasoning you think is illogical. They will buy worthless pieces of paper for two bucks and find value there when they do. The extent to which you understand and internalize and act upon this fundamental aspect of human behavior will drive your ability to effectively market your services, price your services, and serve your clients.

John Ray: [00:03:51] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. Past episodes of this series can be found at pricevaluejourney.com. Or you can email me directly, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

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Finding the Ain’t

April 8, 2022 by John Ray

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A visit with one of my clients and a CPA we were interviewing led to “finding the ain’t.” The “ain’t” in this meeting was the intangible my client identified which attracted him to this CPA. A real-life lesson in how intangibles are what makes prospective clients lean in, not our certifications or experience. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

TRANSCRIPT

John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello. I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. In the work I do as an outside CFO for a few clients and as a business advisor, I rely on CPAs to handle the tax work for my clients because compliance work, like taxation, for example, is not my expertise.

John Ray: [00:00:21] Not long ago, I had a series of different meetings with a client and a few prospective CPAs. After we’d completed our interviews, I asked my client which one he preferred. And he told me his favorite. “Why did you like him?” I asked. He answered, “Because any man who says ain’t is a man I know I can talk to,” he said. That’s not exactly the answer I was expecting, but I wasn’t surprised either. I was expecting to hear an intangible, and the only question was which one or two of those intangibles might stand out for my client?

John Ray: [00:01:03] I expected to hear an intangible rationale for my clients’ selection because clients do not select professional services providers like CPAs, attorneys, bookkeepers, or coaches based on qualifications and expertise. No, they don’t really care what school you went to, unless, of course, you just happen to go to the same school they did and then they might care. But they don’t care that you’ve got a great website. They don’t really care about your certifications and in a lot of cases, they don’t even know what all those letters mean. Your certifications and mine are worthless.

John Ray: [00:01:45] Okay. Now, that’s a deliberate overstatement. Certifications and all of the education and work that we’ve put into becoming subject matter experts in our given field are vital but only to a point. They are just the tickets to get into the show. They don’t get you backstage in that client’s mind. What gets you backstage is to have a value conversation. And that’s what this particular CPA who got chosen did. He didn’t spend any valuable time covering all the things we already knew and had moved past. He didn’t talk about his qualifications or his certifications or whatnot. He asked a lot of why questions and then he shut up and listened. His use of the word ain’t wasn’t really the ultimate determinant for my client, of course. It was just a symbol that he could point to, which indicated for him that this professional understood his problems, hopes, fears, and dreams.

John Ray: [00:02:48] As professional services providers, our job is to be known as someone who understands and holds solutions to problems. But you already know that. What can be hard for us to internalize, though, is that clients come to believe that we have solutions because of intangibles, which often have nothing to do with how you and I end up solving their problems. There’s an ain’t with every client. Spend your time trying to find it.

John Ray: [00:03:22] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. Past episodes of this podcast can be found at pricevaluejourney.com. Or, you can email me if you’d like to connect directly, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

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