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BRX Pro Tip: Host Virtual Events

February 4, 2025 by angishields

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Stone Payton: And we are back with Business RadioX Pro Tips. Lee Kantor and Stone Payton here with you. Let’s talk a little bit about hosting virtual events.

Lee Kantor: Sure. I think it’s a fun idea, and it’s something we used to do quite a bit in person. And now, with the advent and the people being more and more comfortable with Zoom, and Google Meet, and Microsoft Teams, all that virtual has come into play. So, I would recommend thinking about hosting a virtual networking event maybe to kick off the year. And that’s a great time to just open it up to your existing and potential clients as a way to connect and share goals. And, you know, if you have enough local clients too, I would definitely be doing this kind of face to face. That’s my preference to do things, face to face. But if you have a global business, I would definitely consider doing a virtual networking session.

And whether it’s in person or virtual, it doesn’t really matter. But, you know, leverage kind of smaller groups and breakout rooms for kind of focused or kind of specific discussions around topics that illustrate your expertise or illustrate what the groups need in terms of the topics or the things that you want to talk about. And, you know, combine education, combine kind of brainstorming ideas.

And then, after the event, don’t forget to follow up with all the attendees. And then, you can use that as an opportunity to, you know, kind of have some personalized offers based on what you learned at this kind of events. But I think it’s a great idea to have regular events like this, whether they’re in person or virtual, just as another way to add value and connect with your people.

Art Therapy and Community Engagement: The Mission of Everyday Art

February 3, 2025 by angishields

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In this episode of Sandy Springs Business Radio, Lee Kantor talks with Maureen Sullivan and Katie Carr, co-founders of Everyday Art, a nonprofit organization dedicated to making art accessible and supporting emerging artists. They discuss the mission of Everyday Art, which includes an online gallery for under-recognized artists, art therapy workshops, and community engagement initiatives. Katie shares her personal story of finding solace in art after a severe accident, which inspired the nonprofit’s creation. They also highlight their efforts to host art classes and fundraising events, aiming to foster creativity and inclusivity within the community.

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Everyday Art proudly showcases artists who have a talented portfolio and have a desire to give back to the community.

Maureen-Sullivan-Katie-CarrMaureen Sullivan, co-founder of Everyday Art, grew up in Atlanta and went to Marist High School. After graduating from Wake Forest, she served as an AmeriCorps volunteer in an inner city school in Baltimore teaching art. Upon completion of the year, she enrolled in Catholic University Law School on a scholarship. It was there, in Criminal Law Term 1, that Maureen met her future husband, Brendan Sullivan.

Maureen practiced law in the Boston area for five years. She clerked for the Massachusetts Superior Court and then took a job in public finance. She worked for five years assisting cities and towns in the New England area to finance capital projects such as school buildings, public safety buildings, and water or sewer projects.

Maureen moved back to Atlanta in 2011 after the birth of her first baby. She wanted to be closer to family and be a stay at home mom. The public finance team asked if she would stay on as contract attorney part time. She agreed and has worked remotely for the team since, while being a stay at home mom with her three kids.

Maureen has served on the Finance Committee for her local school and church. She has been on the board as Treasurer at her local baseball and softball park. In her spare time, Maureen enjoys swimming on a masters swim team and volunteering with her daughter’s softball teams.

Born and raised in North Carolina, Katie Carr, co-founder of Everyday Art, is a graduate of The University of North Carolina Wilmington, with a degree in Communication and minor in Journalism. Katie received her Masters in Business from The University of Georgia and is an avid Dawgs fan!

Katie relocated to Atlanta with her husband Tim in 2013. Katie and Tim are proud parents to Anna (11) and Matthew (8). She and Tim have been married for almost 13 years and reside in Dunwoody, Georgia.

On January 8th, 2024, Katie’s life changed forever when an unexpected trauma took place during a routine surgery. She was in a coma for 11 days. After waking up, she was met with a change that would forever alter her plans for the future. Because of blood clots turning into sepsis, her left leg was amputated above the knee. Her husband, parents, brother, family, friends, Saint Jude the Apostle Catholic Church and School family, along with the entire Dunwoody community stood behind her from the very beginning.

Fast forward almost a year and 12 surgeries later, she is rehabilitating at The Shepherd Center learning to walk again with her bright pink prosthetic she calls “Leslie!” Katie strongly believes that without the amazing community, friends and family, and her faith surrounding her, she wouldn’t be here today.

Katie loves coaching volleyball and softball (especially with Maureen), sitting on the beach looking for sharks teeth and listening to beach music. She’s also an oil abstract artist and has participated in various art shows around the Atlanta area, notably Dunwoody Art Festival and Chastain Art Festival. She also loves showing her work at Moondog Brewery.

Follow Everyday Art on Instagram.

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Intro: Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Sandy Springs, Georgia. It’s time for Sandy Springs Business Radio. Now, here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: Lee Kantor here, another episode of Sandy Springs Business Radio, and this is going to be a good one. We are broadcasting live from the Greater Perimeter Chamber, advancing Dunwoody and Sandy Springs. So excited to be talking to my guest today. We have Maureen Sullivan and Katie Carr and they are with everyday Art. Welcome.

Maureen Sullivan: Thank you. Thank you for having us.

Katie Carr: Thank you so much for having us.

Lee Kantor: Well, I am so excited to learn what you’re up to. Tell us about everyday art. How are you serving folks?

Maureen Sullivan: Everyday Art is a nonprofit. We just recently got our nonprofit status and we’re very excited about that. But we just created this charity. And the point is to try to bring art to the everyday person and encourage everyone to dabble in a little bit of art.

Lee Kantor: Now is art. When you say everyday person, does that mean the everyday person as artist or everyday person as consumer of art?

Maureen Sullivan: Uh, well, I can say probably a little bit of both. The one thing that we offer is an online gallery, and we search for artists that, you know, they’re not professional artists, but someone who is just a creative or who loves to dabble in watercolor or even, you know, mixed media. And we love to find these artists and display their work on our website. We have just found so many incredible people who you actually would never know how artistic they are. We have some kids who are great at photography drawing. We have moms who dabble into some art. Katie, help me out here. Anything else? It’s been awesome.

Katie Carr: So if it’s possible, we can backtrack just a little bit and tell you kind of how we got started, and that might.

Lee Kantor: Sure. Okay, so you want to. Let’s get the backstory where the genesis of the idea came about.

Katie Carr: Sure. Yeah. It just flows organically. So I had a really bad accident last January where I lost my leg. And Maureen and I are best buddies, and she immediately was like, you know what? I want you to have a place where you can always do art.

Lee Kantor: So you were like an artist.

Katie Carr: I am so in my spare time.

Lee Kantor: Or just.

Katie Carr: I did a couple shows like Dunwoody Art Festival and Sandy Springs. But.

Lee Kantor: But it was a passion.

Katie Carr: Passion project. Yep. All day long. And I’m an abstract oil painter. And it was just started as she was like, I have this idea, and it grew into this marvelous nonprofit that we just, you know, received our 500 and 1C3, checked that box, and there’s three different things that we’re trying to accomplish. And the first being what Maureen talked about is as recruiting this. The everyday artists kind of like how I was not in a gallery, not as public as what some may be doing, doing shows, but not necessarily having their own website. And we curate this art, and we’re trying right now to find artists that do a variety of pieces so we can build our online gallery to have a range of prices.

Maureen Sullivan: And this way, too, someone could purchase art and they can put it in their home or in their office, and it has a meaning and it’s something.

Lee Kantor: There’s a story behind it.

Maureen Sullivan: Exactly. It’s a little bit more than Hobby Lobby or Target, and one of my favorite pieces actually is from Amy, Amy Hamlin, and she is actually suffering from brain cancer, and she’s turned to painting as a way to cope with her diagnosis. And it’s just something, you know, you hang it on your wall and you think, wow, you know.

Lee Kantor: You’re making an impact.

Maureen Sullivan: Exactly. So it’s and we split the proceeds 5050 with the artists and the nonprofit. So that’s one thing that we’re doing.

Lee Kantor: Is that like, I don’t know how the gallery business works. How does a like if you were a gallery in a more traditional manner, what is kind of the financial way that they go about doing business?

Maureen Sullivan: Um, it’s similar. I think the split there is more. The gallery would take 60 to 70. Oh, really? So we do just a 5050 split. Mhm. Um, but so that has been really fun. And if you know anybody’s listening to this and is an artist, please come check out our website and contact us. We’d love to see your work.

Katie Carr: Absolutely.

Lee Kantor: Is there a physical gallery also or everything is just done online?

Katie Carr: Eventually we would like to someday.

Lee Kantor: So that’s on the roadmap is to have a physical gallery at some point.

Maureen Sullivan: Yes. Yes, absolutely.

Katie Carr: The second part of what we’re doing is, um, is something very unique in the fact that we are dabbling a little in the art therapy type workshop classes. Uh, we have a PhD in psychology that we’ve partnered with and kind of collabed on a couple of classes where it’s not it’s not preachy. It’s not deeply therapeutic. But, um, more mindfulness techniques. Right. And we host these classes where I’ll teach a class where we use, um, uh, texture for abstract. So using plaster to create something that you can put on a canvas and make it not something that you can pick up at Hobby Lobby, but not your fine art piece. Right. And just do different paint colors. And, um, that’s been a pretty big success.

Maureen Sullivan: Success. Yeah. I have to give a shout out to Morgan Weatherly. She is our therapist, and she’s been really fantastic in partnering with us and helping to set up classes. And our last class sold out. And, uh, right now we’re having classes kind of wherever we can because we don’t have a location.

Lee Kantor: And those are in person.

Maureen Sullivan: Yes, they are.

Lee Kantor: In the community, in and around the community.

Maureen Sullivan: So we go to different places.

Lee Kantor: So what’s an example of a place you’ve been to?

Maureen Sullivan: Uh, we were at a local preschool once. They had us come in, um, and then we have something on the horizon at a school cafeteria. We did something in a business park outside. So that’s been exciting, right? We were just talking to another company just this week, rise, which is a nonprofit. It’s a coffee shop where the baristas are adults with special needs. Right. And so we’re going to be going out there. We hope to do an art class.

Katie Carr: Yeah. Great partnership there.

Maureen Sullivan: Yeah. Um. Maybe anybody.

Katie Carr: Maybe classes for the parents with children with down syndrome. Or, um, grab a buddy and have a class with a special friend. Yeah. Where we teach the class, we provide all the supplies. They leave with a piece of art that they can hang in their home.

Maureen Sullivan: Right. And Morgan asked. Just such a nice piece, too. Just on the meditation and thoughtfulness, you know, of creating something and finishing something and how that feels.

Lee Kantor: Now, do you mind if we talk a little bit about kind of the nuts and bolts of starting a nonprofit? Because there’s a lot of folks out there that want to do something like this, but maybe They’re too overwhelmed by. It seems too hard or too difficult. Can you share a little bit about you come up with the idea, hey, we want to do something around art. You decide to go down the nonprofit path instead of a for profit path, which obviously I’m sure you discussed different ways of doing the thing you want to do. So you land on nonprofit. Can you talk a little bit about the nuts and bolts on how to get that out of your head, and then into an actual kind of an entity like you’ve done, right?

Maureen Sullivan: I mean, it was definitely a dream that we kind of couldn’t stop talking about for a couple of months. Um, and the 500 and 1C3 application, it’s it’s extensive.

Lee Kantor: Right. And you didn’t have an existing thing like you were. This was all from scratch, right? This is an idea in your head. Yes. It doesn’t exist except in your minds. And now it exists. Obviously. Yes. So how do you go from that thought into, you know, do you the paperwork, like how do you even begin the process?

Katie Carr: Before we did that, we would run this by people in our family, in our community, and we were never met with. No, that’s a bad idea. Right.

Lee Kantor: So that helped. Right. You got a.

Katie Carr: Little.

Lee Kantor: A little.

Maureen Sullivan: Momentum, a.

Lee Kantor: Little mental.

Maureen Sullivan: Momentum. No one said, don’t do it. That’s crazy. Yeah, we thought they would. Um, and then I have, um, a law background. I’m a public finance attorney. So actually, I’m pretty used to tax documents.

Lee Kantor: Okay. So that part didn’t scare you?

Maureen Sullivan: Didn’t? No. I read the 40 pages of instructions and completed it. Um, and.

Lee Kantor: Katie, would you have if you didn’t have her, would you? Pardon? It would have been done right. It would have been an idea. That’s a great idea. And then it would have gone away.

Katie Carr: We really need each other. I worked at State Farm, worked at State Farm for the past 18 years as a data engineer. So my background is not at all documents like that. So we were very, very fortunate.

Lee Kantor: Right. So, so from your end, if it would have been you with the idea by yourself, it probably would have kind of died on the vine there, right? It wouldn’t have gone beyond that.

Katie Carr: Yeah. And you know, the other special thing about it too, is that we feed off each other with passion. She’s really good at certain parts and I’m really good at the other parts, and we kind of figured that, okay, it’s really run pretty smoothly. But no, I don’t think that either one of us feel like we could have done it without the other.

Maureen Sullivan: Um, it definitely is a little better jumping into something like this with someone. Um, I don’t think even if I knew how to complete the paperwork, I could have sort of signed off and sent it without knowing. You know, I had someone I wanted to do this with and hold me accountable.

Lee Kantor: Right now, each of you works for other companies. Had any either of you done anything entrepreneurial like this where you’re starting kind of a business from scratch like this?

Maureen Sullivan: I had done a small math tutoring business with my dad about ten years ago. He bought a franchise and so I helped him run it. Um, and so that that was it.

Lee Kantor: Did that was that helpful in that? Okay, a franchise kind of has a kind of a business in a box kind of feel to it. So there’s steps and there’s procedures and you kind of knew that. And you can kind of maybe borrow some of that into what you’re doing now.

Maureen Sullivan: Yes, it definitely helped. You know, I knew we needed insurance. I knew we needed licensing. Right. You know, I and to be honest, you can also Google a lot. Exactly.

Lee Kantor: But again, having done it, it makes you more confident that, hey, I can pull this off this. Other people have done some stuff like this.

Maureen Sullivan: Yes, yes. And we’re not getting it too complicated. We don’t have a space. Right. Um, and it’s a nonprofit. It’s not running a payroll.

Katie Carr: Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. It takes the pressure off of us. Um, the entrepreneurial part is really a passion. And what we see as our dream to be able to do this and give back. Um, so not as much pressure about, you know, our salary and things like that at this point.

Lee Kantor: So now what is kind of your like, how do you mark milestones? Like what was the first thing. Okay. We got the entity. So that was check that box. We’re legit now.

Katie Carr: Our website.

Maureen Sullivan: Website.

Lee Kantor: That was the next big thing was okay now we need a need a website. Look, we’re doing this. We got to do this, right? Yeah. At some point, you know, you’re in for a dime. In for a dollar. Kind of thing. We’re going to. If we’re going to do it, let’s do it. So now you got to make a website. So had you done that or you had to now got to find a website partner.

Maureen Sullivan: We we.

Katie Carr: Did.

Maureen Sullivan: We had an old friend who helped us.

Lee Kantor: So within the network again the the community’s helping you.

Maureen Sullivan: Yes. Another mom. There’s been a lot of moms out there that have helped us. Morgan is a fellow, um, her daughter goes to school with our daughter’s fellow mom friend. And then this was my my friend from high school, but she does a small website business on the side.

Lee Kantor: So then you were like, hey, we’re doing this thing. Did you ask her, do you know somebody? Or did she raise her hand and say, hey, do you need help?

Maureen Sullivan: She reached out to us and said, if you need anything, let me know. So.

Katie Carr: But it worked out good. She’s she was able to set up the the shell for us and I maintain our website now. Um, I have a bit of like a digital background type communication. Right. Um, so I’ll, I’ll maintain it now, but it didn’t. I mean, we there’s no way on earth I would have ever been able to do what she did. Right. Really set us up for success. That was the first big milestone where we were like, oh, this actually looks really nice.

Maureen Sullivan: And we should say her name. Elise Black. If you have a website. Website that’s exactly very talented.

Lee Kantor: So then okay, so now you have the website and then how do you go about kind of finding the artist? Was that did you think that would be difficult or easy. Like what was kind of because at some point you have to reach out, right. And get some artists in here.

Katie Carr: I was in the hospital for a really long time, and Maureen was visiting different art festivals out there. Um, during this.

Lee Kantor: Time scouting.

Katie Carr: She was. Scouting has a great eye. So she had a whole slew of business cards when, you know, we were ready to really start talking about this and, and reaching out to artists. And we really the pace at what people. No one said no. So we are um.

Lee Kantor: Because from the artist standpoint, it’s kind of a no lose situation. It’s like, hey, I’m just digitally putting my stuff there and I get 50%. So it’s. Yeah, why not?

Maureen Sullivan: Right? Right. We do ask that, you know, we have exclusive right to it for a period of time. Period of time. Um, but yeah, there’s no downside. And when we try to showcase the artists, we’ll do a special social media push just all about them, or we’ll try to interview them and publish it on our Instagram. Um, just to, you know, show the world who this person.

Lee Kantor: Is and what their story is. Now, um, is a hard part kind of saying no to some artists because, like, you’re curating, right? That’s part of your job as a gallery owner. Or is it like, hey, it’s all comers come in and we’re going to.

Katie Carr: Fortunately, we have not crossed that bridge yet. I, I’m sure that at some point her and I are going to have to discuss. Is it appropriate for our site? Is this a long right?

Lee Kantor: Is this aligned with our brand?

Katie Carr: Right. Our brand that we’re creating? Um, but luckily so far we’ve been like, yeah, let’s do it. We have photographers, We have people that have made crosses, you know, out of oyster shells and just I think somebody was making a quilt. So it pottery, like the sky is the limit for what we’re looking at.

Lee Kantor: Right. So you’re casting a wide net.

Katie Carr: Wide net.

Lee Kantor: And then is the are there any kind of rules like do they have to be local. Like what is kind of the criteria that you’re looking at, the lens you’re looking at for artists?

Maureen Sullivan: It does not have to be local. No. Um, it’s a little bit more convenient for getting the art to a local from a local, um, artist to a local consumer.

Lee Kantor: Right?

Maureen Sullivan: That part is hard because to ship art is expensive. Um, so.

Lee Kantor: Which could be more than the art?

Maureen Sullivan: Exactly, exactly. So that’s kind of tough. Um, but we have some, you know, some of our artists have figured out ways to, you know, make it work, right? You know, instead of sending a canvas, they might roll up a sheet of parchment, um, and that, that has worked. So we’re just dealing with that as it comes.

Katie Carr: Yeah. Yep. And there may be, you know, artists. I’m from eastern North Carolina, so a lot of our, um, my community and my friendships are, are spread out through North Carolina. But within that community, there’s a lot of artists. So if they if we want to showcase some of their art, they can deliver locally in their state and their their spot where they’re in.

Lee Kantor: Right. You’re just figuring out ways to make it work for everybody.

Katie Carr: Make it work. That’s the beautiful thing about having an online art gallery. It’s not just local.

Lee Kantor: So now you mentioned the art. You have the, um, kind of therapeutic kind of classes. Is there any other?

Maureen Sullivan: Yes. This is our favorite part. Yes.

Katie Carr: Um, so we, uh, when I was in rehab for, you know, learning to walk again, I was able to kind of see what it looks like when you use creativity for rehabilitation techniques. So we’re very fortunate to take the proceeds that we are earning through the online art gallery, the art workshops, and build really awesome art kits. Um, it’s a it’s a box. It has a cute sticker on it from us. It’s wrapped in tissue paper on the inside with a canvas, some paint brushes and some paint. And we are able to partner with different, uh, hospitals in the area. We have contacts at Koa, at Piedmont, at Shepherd center, um, Emory, the list goes on. Anywhere you can deliver art kits to patients that could use creativity to help their spirit, help their occupational therapy.

Lee Kantor: Uh, so what are the elements in the kit?

Katie Carr: It’s it’s a canvas. So they get a small canvas, they get little containers of your primary colors of paint, and they get some paint brushes. And we have a card that we put in with instructions. So it’s and basically we’re working through the context of where we deliver maybe 50 kits to Piedmont, but we deliver them via an occupational therapist or a physical therapist and say, hey, you guys can run with this. It’s free of charge. This is our donation to you. Or you could call us in and we’ll be we’ll be happy to to run a class and kind of teach some basic art techniques, whichever they prefer. And we’re it just, it’s so awesome to be able to do.

Lee Kantor: Have you have you done that? Has that gone out?

Maureen Sullivan: Yes. We’ve delivered it to a few, um, occupational therapists and physical therapists. And then we have some contacts, actually, um, that we’re working on at Shepherd in Piedmont.

Katie Carr: Yeah. Wow. I’m very lucky to have my rehabilitation at the Shepherd center. Anybody who has heard that name knows only great things about it. Sure. And, um, you know, we I had a mom tell me one day where her son was diagnosed with cancer at a very young age. And she said, we would have loved to have one of these kids when he’s sitting in his room. Right. Just just to be able to. And that’s theirs. That’s their thing to do. Um, and everybody likes that feeling of creating something that someone else says that looks really nice, right? It’s that intrinsic feeling. We just want to bring happiness to these people.

Lee Kantor: And, um, do you do any kind of fundraisers or ways for the community to support your efforts?

Maureen Sullivan: Not yet. We’re working on it. No, we are working on it.

Lee Kantor: So what do you need more of? How can we help you?

Katie Carr: We’re in the process of being able to accept donations. And once we can do that with the state of Georgia, we’re able to partner with, um, different companies and different places that we’ve reached out to that have shown interest in maybe sponsoring a fundraiser night, and then we can showcase art from our artist. We can showcase pieces that maybe have been created by, um, someone going through rehab that wants to donate their piece back to us and kind of have a nice gallery type event. We we have a lot of really cool things on the horizon where we think that it’s going to just open up and create lots of opportunities.

Lee Kantor: Now, what about from the artist standpoint? Is that something you’re always looking at? Artist.

Maureen Sullivan: We will always be looking for artists 100%.

Katie Carr: So if Reach out on our website.

Maureen Sullivan: Reach out. Yes or Instagram.

Lee Kantor: So what if an artist has like just a few pieces? Is that okay? Or do they have to have like a certain number?

Maureen Sullivan: They can send us one.

Lee Kantor: One.

Maureen Sullivan: Whatever, whatever works. Um, but yes, we’re always looking for artists or, or if you’d like us to come to an art class.

Lee Kantor: Yes. And so then who’s the ideal partner for an art class?

Maureen Sullivan: Well, I mean,we have something set up, um, where we get our hair cut. Yeah. Um. Okay.

Lee Kantor: So. So the venue doesn’t have to be super large.

Katie Carr: No, no.

Maureen Sullivan: There’s.

Katie Carr: No. So the the haircut place they’ve shown interest in. Hey, we want to have kind of like our post holiday party at our home. You know, we don’t really want to have, like, a sip and paint or something like that because that’s, you know, painting something specific. Not everybody is, is.

Lee Kantor: Wants to.

Katie Carr: Do that. You know, would you guys be interested in coming to our house and doing, you know, showing us how to use plaster as texture and creating something abstract? And that’s been really cool. And we’ve been working with the chamber and some other some other nonprofits that have, you know, shared some insights into maybe having a space to have a classroom to be able to host these and, um, yeah.

Maureen Sullivan: It’s coming along.

Lee Kantor: So if somebody wants to learn more, I have a more substantive conversation with you or the team. What is the website? What’s the best way to connect everyday?

Maureen Sullivan: Art gallery. Com and the Instagram handle is everyday Art Gallery. And is that Facebook too?

Katie Carr: Yep Facebook as well. So in TikTok we’re on TikTok. Um, we are all about creating content right now, and this is why this is an incredible opportunity. So thank you for having us to share.

Maureen Sullivan: Yes.

Katie Carr: Thank you. Reach out. We would love to talk and connect and share more about what we’re trying to do.

Lee Kantor: Well, thank you both for sharing your story. You’re doing important work and we appreciate you.

Katie Carr: Thank you so much for having us.

Lee Kantor: All right, this Lee Kantor we’ll see you all next time on Sandy Springs Business Radio.

 

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BRX Pro Tip: The Importance of Elegant Follow Up

February 3, 2025 by angishields

BRX Pro Tip: Jobs to Be Done Theory Explained

January 31, 2025 by angishields

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Stone Payton: And we are back with Business RadioX Pro Tips. Stone Payton and Lee Kantor here with you. Lee, thank goodness you’re such a prolific reader, and you capture so much, and return it to the organization and share it with our community. Give us a little bit of a primer, if you would, on the Jobs to Be Done Theory.

Lee Kantor: Yeah, Jobs to Be Done Theory is kind of developed by a guy named Bob Moesta, M-O-E-S-T-A. He has a book called Demand-Side Sales 101 Stop Selling and Help Your Customers Make Progress. I think everybody should definitely check out that book. But the theory is… The Jobs to Be Done Theory says that people don’t simply buy products or services; they hire them to accomplish specific jobs in their lives. And I think that that is absolutely true. And then, what you have to do as a business owner is to figure out how to frame what you’re doing as a way for your clients to hire you.

So, what is the job people hire you or your firm to do for Business RadioX? What the job studio partners hire us to do is to help them prospect for business more elegantly and effectively. We help them have more status and impact in their community. We help them build more connections and relevance. We help them create that brand ubiquity and social media content they need every single day. And we help them create a lot more revenue streams into their business. So, if those are some of the jobs you need to be done in your professional service practice, then you should be partnering with Business RadioX. Definitely connect with us and we can help you get those jobs done.

Elevate Your E-Commerce Game: Tailored Digital Marketing Solutions from Drizzle Digital

January 30, 2025 by angishields

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In this episode of Women in Motion, Lee Kantor is joined by Dree Ziegler, founder of Drizzle Digital, a woman-owned digital marketing agency. Dree discusses Drizzle Digital’s services, including social media management, website development, email marketing, and paid advertising. She emphasizes the agency’s data-driven approach and the importance of understanding client goals. Dree also introduces a new turnkey digital marketing package for small and medium e-commerce businesses. The conversation highlights the value of community and networking through organizations like WBEC-West and previews Drizzle Digital’s future expansion into the hospitality industry.

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Dree-ZieglerDree Ziegler is the founder of Drizzle Digital, a WBENC-certified, woman-owned digital agency built for businesses ready to stand out and grow.

Based in Denver, Colorado, Dree leads a fully remote team that thrives on creative strategy and delivering results. With more than 15 years of experience in digital marketing and e-commerce, she’s as passionate about crafting compelling campaigns as she is about exploring the world.

Whether she’s skiing down Colorado’s slopes, tackling an adventure halfway across the globe, or drumming with enthusiasm that far outweighs precision, Dree brings curiosity and determination to everything she does.

Connect with Dree on LinkedIn and follow Drizzle Digital on Facebook.

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Intro: Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios, it’s time for Women In Motion. Brought to you by WBEC-West. Join forces. Succeed together. Now, here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: Lee Kantor here, another episode of Women In Motion and this is going to be a good one. But before we get started, it’s important to recognize our sponsor, WBEC-West. Without them, we couldn’t be sharing these important stories. Today on Women In Motion, we have Dree Ziegler with Drizzle Digital. Welcome.

Dree Ziegler: Hi. Thanks for having me.

Lee Kantor: I am so excited to learn what you’re up to. Tell us a little bit about Drizzle, how are you serving folks?

Dree Ziegler: Well, Drizzle Digital is a woman-owned, woman-led digital marketing agency, and we’re based here in Denver, Colorado. We specialize in social media management, website development, email marketing, and paid advertising. And we really deliver creative, data-backed solutions for B2B and B2C companies. So, our goal is to help them grow their digital presence, engage their audiences, and build their brands online.

Lee Kantor: So, what kind of differentiates Drizzle from maybe others in the digital marketing space?

Dree Ziegler: So, Drizzle Digital is woman-owned and we are WBENC certified, as you mentioned, so we really bring a fresh perspective, I think. We’re also women-led, so we have women in leadership roles throughout our company. And in terms of our actual service offering, we really take a bold, creative approach to our clients, and that work that we do is data-backed. So, we are looking at data on a monthly basis based on the work we do to see if what we’re doing is working and how we can do it better.

Dree Ziegler: The other piece is that we really like to engage with our clients as part of their team, so we like to become an extension of your marketing team, an extension of your goals to work together hand-in-hand.

Lee Kantor: So, what’s it like when you begin a relationship with a client? What types of questions are you kind of asking them to really hone in on what are the metrics that matter and how you can really move the needle in areas that are important to them?

Dree Ziegler: Sure. I think the first thing we’re going to do is understand our client’s goals. So, clients come to us at a number of different points in their journey, and what we try to understand is what they’re trying to accomplish online, so we’re problem solvers in a way.

Dree Ziegler: If they come to us as an e-commerce company, we know most likely their goal is going to be to sell more online, and we are going to put strategies in place to make that happen. With a lot of our B2B clients, we’re looking at lead nurturing education, building leads for them. It’s sort of that longer sales cycle.

Dree Ziegler: So, the first thing we’re going to ask is what their goals are and try to understand that, and then understand how we can put together a strategy that is creative, that is data-backed, that can help them meet those goals.

Lee Kantor: Now, when you’re working with a client, obviously this is what you do 24/7, and the client obviously doesn’t understand all the nuances, and sometimes they ask you questions or have requests that maybe they read about in a blog post or a friend of theirs is doing, but isn’t really going to be effective for them. So, how do you go about kind of educating them and getting kind of layers deep to the real action that it will take for them to get the outcome they desire, but maybe not the tactic they think they need?

Dree Ziegler: Sure, and that definitely happens. I think understanding the client goals is really critical to this piece of it. So, not every client is going to need the same strategy or the same plan. It really depends on what that goal is. And it also depends on other factors, like budget and resources that they have on their side and things like that.

Dree Ziegler: But there are some misconceptions that we really try to address early on. So, for example, just posting on social media is not necessarily going to get you what you want for your business. You need to have an overarching strategy, and you might need to combine it with another tactic to make it work. For example, social media platforms really kind of limit the amount of reach you might have for organic posting. So, you might need to combine it with another strategy, like a paid ad or a boosting strategy to get in front of the right audiences to get what you need.

Dree Ziegler: So, we’re really digging into what their actual goals are, and trying to meet their goals within their budget, and be effective for them online, and that could be a range of solutions for them.

Lee Kantor: Now, how do you kind of protect your clients from the shiny object syndrome of “Hey, there’s a new platform that my nephew told me about, I don’t want to miss out on that, and let’s kind of reconfigure everything and get really into that.” Like, how do you kind of separate the fad from the trend?

Dree Ziegler: So, I think a lot of this comes down to reporting. So, we spend a lot of time in the data, understanding where things are successful and where things are not. And the thing about shiny things is that sometimes the shiny thing is a good thing to try and sometimes it’s not. So, it depends on what the data is telling us. If we’re not being as effective as we want to be with some of our strategies, we might try something new. We are always open to testing. Testing helps us to understand where we’re going to be successful.

Dree Ziegler: So, for example, the shiny object that you might be talking about, maybe it’s a new platform for social media. We might actually try that and say, “Let’s go and post a couple times this month, see if we get any traction on that platform and go from there.” So, I would say sometimes the shiny object is not going to work. Testing it will tell us whether it’s a good idea or not.

Lee Kantor: So, do you have any advice for the listener out there that maybe is not ready for Drizzle but wants to test something, like, is there an easy way to test something or kind of a simple way maybe is better than easy way of trying out something to see if it will work or not?

Dree Ziegler: I think social media platforms and email marketing are a good place for trying different things, trying new creative things like that. If you’re already doing some of those things, I would absolutely recommend that you give something a try. So, try posting a new type of content or try sending an email that includes maybe a new creative or something fresh for your email marketing, those are kind of things that you might, as a baseline, already have in your small business.

Dree Ziegler: When you start talking about things like paid ads or doing website development, things that get technical, that’s when you might want to get involved with a company like Drizzle, an agency that can help you do those more technical, difficult things.

Lee Kantor: Now, you mentioned a couple different types of clients, you have e-commerce or B2B, is there kind of an industry niche or is it just anybody that is marketing that could benefit from digital? What is the profile of that ideal client? Is it more of a mindset or values rather than what they’re actually doing? Who is that ideal client for you?

Dree Ziegler: Yeah. So, we have clients in a number of different verticals, both B2C and B2B. We actually work with some very large corporations on their social media marketing. And then, we work with small and medium-sized businesses on website, email, things like that. So, really, we work with any size business.

Dree Ziegler: What we see in terms of consistency is our clients come to us because they understand that digital needs to be a strong part of their marketing strategy. And I think that’s true for almost all businesses at this point. So, whether they come to us early on and we helped them build their brand from the logo to look and feel to messaging, or they have an established brand and they come to us and they’re just really looking to grow online, the consistent theme for our clients is they know that digital needs to be a large stream for them and we need to help them to optimize it.

Lee Kantor: Now, you recently launched a turnkey digital marketing package, can you talk a little bit about that and what’s special about it?

Dree Ziegler: Yeah, sure. So, we see this gap in the market where particularly small and medium e-commerce businesses, they know they need to be doing paid ads, they know they need to be doing social, they know they need an email marketing strategy. And so, they can hire someone to handle that. So, they can hire a digital marketing manager in-house or what we’re proposing with our turnkey tool is that we come in as that marketing strategist for them. These are usually businesses where ownership is a big part of their marketing, where they have needs for a variety of digital marketing tactics and maybe only the budget for somebody to manage one.

Dree Ziegler: So, we come in with a strategist and we say we can handle your paid ads, your website management, your social media, and your email, and we’ll handle all of that under one flat rate. And that really helps the client to feel confident that they’re getting all the services in an integrated approach across all the different services.

Dree Ziegler: So, we become that extension of the team that we like to be. We have a single point of contact that is that main person helping to organize on our side. And we really think this gives the client, you know, the best digital marketing tools to grow their brand online.

Dree Ziegler: And for them, you know, in addition to that, they don’t have to spend to build that in-house team with all the skill sets that a digital marketing team on our side can provide. So, for one flat rate, they’re getting data, they’re getting creative, they’re getting strategy, they’re getting technical resources. So, that’s really the benefits for that service and we’re really excited to launch it.

Lee Kantor: Now, is it a better fit for the B2B or the e-commerce or the B2C? What is the ideal kind of fit for this or it works for either one?

Dree Ziegler: It technically could work for either one, but we’re really focused on small and medium e-commerce businesses. So, these are companies that are established bigger than a startup, but they’re at the point where they want to sell more online, and they are looking for resources to do it at a reasonable rate.

Lee Kantor: Now, why was it important for you and your firm to become part of WBEC- West? What was it that you were looking for when you joined that community and what have you gotten out of it?

Dree Ziegler: I think for one, it provides a ton of opportunity to connect and network with larger corporations and businesses. Being certified gets you in front of a ton of large organizations at their national conference. Those meet and greets are really, really valuable. On top of that, though, the community is really wonderful. It’s a lot of women who are facing a lot of the same challenges that we are in terms of growth, in terms of managing employees, in terms of just the day-to-day of running a business. And reaching out and leaning on them has been a really wonderful part of being a part of that organization.

Lee Kantor: Now, what do you need more of and how can we help? What’s next for you guys?

Dree Ziegler: So, the turnkey piece is really exciting. That’s been launched already. But the next thing that we are working on, a number of our clients ended up being in the hospitality industry, so we are actually launching a second digital brand really focused on hotels and hospitality, and that will be probably in the next month or so. But that will be a separate brand that we will be working with hotels to build their social media presence, run their email, and help them really book more rooms in a modern way. So, stay tuned for that. That’s probably coming in February.

Lee Kantor: So, if somebody wants to learn more, connect with you or somebody on the team, what’s the website? What’s the best way to connect?

Dree Ziegler: We are at drizzledigital.com, and you can set a meeting with us right there on the homepage.

Lee Kantor: And that’s D-R-I-Z-Z-L-E-digital.com.

Dree Ziegler: Correct.

Lee Kantor: Well, Dree, thank you so much for sharing your story. You’re doing such important work and we appreciate you.

Dree Ziegler: Thank you. It’s been great to be here.

Lee Kantor: All right. This is Lee Kantor, we’ll see you all next time on Women In Motion.

 

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BRX Pro Tip: Launch a Business Podcast Club

January 30, 2025 by angishields

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Stone Payton: Welcome back to Business RadioX Pro Tips. Lee Kantor and Stone Payton here with you. Lee, over the years, I personally and a lot of folks I know have gotten tremendous value out of mastermind groups, book clubs, collaborating with other people. Is there a way to do that with our medium, with the digital radio podcast medium?

Lee Kantor: Yeah, I think there is, and I think this is an opportunity for professional service providers out there to build more engagement and build more connection with the people important to them. I think a good idea is to create some sort of a business podcast club that includes monthly discussions to engage potential and current clients. I would select one business podcast that you’re all going to focus in on that month, and then just listen to it, take notes, and then share what you’ve learned and how it can affect your business. You know, make sure that this business podcast aligns with your business philosophy, and then just host a monthly discussion to deep dive into the insights that you’ve learned.

As a bonus, you can create supplementary material that relate to the podcast concepts that you’re discussing, and then you can share what you’ve learned on social media. But I think it’s a good idea to just kind of create these connections with people and have people working on the same thing for a month at a time, check in with each other, what have you learned, what have you gotten out of this and how are you applying it in your business. I think business podcasts are a great point that you can focus in on to help you build that connection and grow your business.

BRX Pro Tip: New Year, New Business

January 29, 2025 by angishields

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Stone Payton: Welcome back to Business RadioX Pro Tips. Lee Kantor and Stone Payton here with you. Lee, going into a new period, like a new year, what are your thoughts on that and preparing to hit the ground running, man.

Lee Kantor: Well, I think it’s a good idea to just continue to add value to your clients and prospective clients and figure out different ways to create packages around different types of things. And one thing to consider is, especially, like you said, at transitional periods like a new year or new quarter, create some sort of a new year, new business package that might be, you know, kind of combining a free strategy session to prospective clients with some sort of path for them to enter your pipeline, your sales pipeline. So, a free strategy session to attract prospective clients that kind of kicks off this new year.

You might include a one pager that highlights some of the packages’ benefits and have a free discovery session to see if they are the right fit client for you. You know, you can promote the package through social media, email, targeting your email list and your existing network. And then, use this though as a way to kind of build connections with new people and serve your existing people. But do it in a mindful way that you’re going to follow up and you are going to try to sell these people something because whatever you’re doing, it has to be either to acquire new people into the top of your funnel or it has to trickle down to the bottom of the funnel where sales actually occur. So, relentless follow up, I think, is an important component of any type of strategy that you’re doing to get new clients. You have to have a means to follow up and convert some of those leads into prospects and some of those prospects into clients.

Building Community Through Business: A Conversation with Stone Payton

January 29, 2025 by angishields

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FF-Stone-PaytonFor over 30 years, Stone Payton has been helping organizations and the people who lead them drive their business strategies more effectively.

Mr. Payton literally wrote the book on SPEED ® : Never Fry Bacon In The Nude: And Other Lessons From The Quick & The Dead, and has dedicated his career to helping others Produce Better Results In Less Time.

Connect with Stone on LinkedIn, Facebook and Instagram.

Websites:

  • BusinessRadioX.com
  • CherokeeBusinessRadio.com
  • MainStreetWarriors.org
  • ssfreedom.org

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Intro: Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Woodstock, Georgia. This is fearless formula with Sharon Cline.

Sharon Cline: Welcome to Fearless Formula on Business RadioX, where we talk about the ups and downs of the business world and offer words of wisdom for business success. On a normal day, that’s what we do. But today is not a normal day. Today is a Tuesday where I get to talk about, well, the founder of everything regarding Business RadioX, one of the founders here in Atlanta, but specifically Stone’s studio here in Woodstock, Georgia. This is Stone Payton. Welcome to the show.

Stone Payton: Well thank you. Maybe we should rename it and call it Stone studio instead of Cherokee Business RadioX Stone studio. A little ring to it, doesn’t it? It does.

Sharon Cline: Look at me. I won’t charge you much for that. I’m so glad to talk to you to you today because we haven’t really sat down and discussed, you know, the the progress of Business RadioX and all of the different initiatives that you have right now, as well as the fact that, like, I don’t even get any personal chit chatty time with you like I used to because we’re both so busy.

Stone Payton: Well, especially you, right? It’s hunting season for me. So that’s part of why I’m busy. But you, you’re all over the place, you’re doing voiceover work, you’re doing radio work, you’re doing TV work. Yeah, commercials, all that stuff. You got a lot going on, lady.

Sharon Cline: Yeah, it all kind of happened at once, really quickly. Like doing this Fatal Attraction show. I’m so excited to do that on Thursday and Friday. And then I’ve got a couple different TV shows that are coming out from things that I filmed last year. They come out in February, so it’ll it’ll seem like a lot at once, but it’s all been in the making over time, except for Fatal Attraction. That was a big surprise. I get to be a detective. I’m so excited. I have lines, it’s the most amazing ever. So I’m so glad to share that with you too, because I always think of you as the person that was so supportive of me getting into radio with you, like almost three almost three years ago.

Stone Payton: So remember that when you start getting the royalty checks. Okay.

Sharon Cline: Oh, is that right? I don’t know if I’m.

Sharon Cline: The little people. I don’t know if I’ll remember that. You know what? No. I will never forget how kind you were to me when I was just like. Do you need someone to say a voiceover for you? Please. Anything.

Sharon Cline: You were so sweet to me. No.

Stone Payton: It’s been a great ride. We’d have a lot of fun together and, uh. And back at you, because a lot of the cool things we have going on here right now were born out of your creativity, your initiative, and your willingness to help me try to get some things off the ground. So it’s been a very, uh, at least fair energy exchange. And I have a feeling that the, the balance of the scales is much more in your.

Sharon Cline: Favor than mine. No.

Sharon Cline: Well, it’s been my pleasure. And everything that you’re doing is to not just help the community, but you really do take some personal one on one, um, interest in people and helping them to grow as well. Which is what’s so great about Business RadioX, because it does help to give people opportunities to, Uh, navigate different industries and and network and everybody wins in that, in that environment. Not only do you get to know new people, but you could also help to grow your own business. And it just grows and grows and grows. So not only do you do things for the community, but you do things individually. And I appreciate that about you.

Stone Payton: Well, thank you. And what you’re describing, that’s certainly consistent with my experience, both for me and the people that we bring into the Business RadioX family. One of the things that I thoroughly enjoy about being part of this thing of ours at this point in my career is it’s real easy to be the nice guy, the guy that knows the guy, and it’s real easy to to serve someone who is never going to write you a check. But with all of that in place, it makes perfect sense for very specific types of people in certain situations that meet, uh, some, some very distinct criteria. It makes all the sense in the world for them to at least have a conversation with us about writing us a check, because we Because we can provide a nice return on that check. But but I can also help a lot of people nonprofits, very small businesses, startups. So it’s it’s a neat place to be in terms of timing in the career and to have this, uh, this platform, this, this thing at my disposal.

Sharon Cline: Right.

Sharon Cline: Exactly. People are always impressed when they come in to see this little studio here. It’s like such a surprise. But it has always provided such a nice, intimate setting to get to know someone’s story in a way that I don’t get to have outside of this room. So I consider it an honor to be part of it.

Stone Payton: So thank you. Well that’s nice. Thank you for saying that.

Sharon Cline: Sure.

Sharon Cline: No problem. Well, let’s talk a little bit about some of the things that Business RadioX is doing right now. We’re actually we’ve talked about Main Street Warriors a couple times in the past, you and I on on air. But what is new with Main Street Warriors that we’ve been working on together?

Sharon Cline: Well, I.

Stone Payton: Think it’s a perfect example of a tenant that I’ve tried to live by, a mentor shared with me years and years Go. If you’re kind of getting mired down and you’re stuck in what you’re doing and you’ve got a problem or a set of problems and you’re just really struggling with it, take a day, take a couple of days, go work on somebody else’s problem, right. And so I was getting mired down in one challenge in that when I opened this studio, we’ve got a very well kind of, uh, baked, uh, well baked strategy methodology process for helping professional services clients who are kind of high end, uh, solve their prospecting problem. You know, a lot of people CPAs, lawyers, coaches, consultants, they may be exceedingly gifted at their craft, but a lot of them have a challenge in prospecting. So at the risk of sounding a little bit immodest, this thing of ours, we can fix that problem and we can really help them grow their business. And the fee structure is, uh, commensurate with that, right? So and you can make a very lucrative living running a Business RadioX studio. So there’s this whole tier of people that we serve, and that’s the way it ought to be. But lo and behold, I moved to Woodstock, Georgia, and very quickly I get to know a lot of people around town. I know every bartender in town, of course, but I know a lot of small business people that, you know, they’re not trying to take over the world or anything.

Stone Payton: They just have a neat little lifestyle business. I don’t care how good my thing works. My fee structure is out of reach, right? And so I’m scratching my head. What’s been almost three years now? Two years plus? I guess I’m scratching my head. How do I help these people? Right. Um, what I do at the at that fee structure makes no sense to them, but I really do want to help them. And so, uh, what what I did with a great deal of help from you to bring it into reality and just help from everybody around the community. Uh, you know, Lee Meyer with the highlight reel, just a whole bunch of people came together to support this. But we created this community partner program, uh, with your help, we called it Main Street Warriors. The very first time I tried to even articulate what we were doing and why. Diesel. David, David, Samuel, he says, well, what would it cost for me? I want to be the title sponsor. And I’m like, uh, I don’t know. And he goes, well, how about this number through his credit card? I’m like, okay. So like like without diesel, David, it never would have happened without you. It never would have had this. All these people came together. But what we created was a way for those all the smaller businesses, all these friends of mine that I see every week at, um, at young professionals of Woodstock.

Sharon Cline: Or Woodstock business meetings.

Stone Payton: There’s a way for them to play, a way for them to engage and do a couple of things. One, they can tap into some of the benefits of being a part of this, this thing where we amplify the voice of business and we give everybody an opportunity to share their story and promote their work. But another challenge that businesses at that level have at that revenue level, uh, they don’t have the resources to contribute to local causes the way they would like to. You know, they can write the $10 check. They can go to the $25 dinner, but they can’t be writing 1000 $5,000 checks to this association and this nonprofit. But as part of the Main Street Warriors program, the whole idea behind that is we’ll take that membership revenue, which is, I mean, very modest, right? I mean, it’s like a 10th of what it would cost if you were like a traditional client. Uh, and, uh, my initial, uh, commitment was we’d take 20% of that money, uh, just between me and you and a house cat and now your millions of listeners, I’m sure millions.

Sharon Cline: We’re actually.

Stone Payton: We’re actually, uh, giving about 120% at.

Sharon Cline: The moment.

Stone Payton: But we’re taking that money and we’re turning around and reinvesting it in the local nonprofits that causes, you know, all of them that, that, that we all support around here. You’ve heard of.

Sharon Cline: All of them, of.

Stone Payton: Course. And, um, and so but now that small business person gets an gets an opportunity to kind of come along for the ride on the traditional promotional marketing aspect of things. You know, maybe they’re a sponsor of a specific episode. Maybe we do a live read for them. Maybe we make it very clear that they are the the sponsor of this series. Stuff that doesn’t cost me a lot of money, right? Gives them some exposure. Uh, gives because they are a sponsor. They have kind of the inside track and inviting other people on Cherokee Business Radio, and they get to be a part of what we do for Wildlife Action Kids Expo, Limitless Disabilities Food Pantry, Next Step Ministries, Circle of Friends, all of these you know, they it’s not stone, it’s the main street.

Sharon Cline: Warriors that get to contribute.

Stone Payton: That got me started on Main Street Warriors. I just I love it.

Sharon Cline: I love that you have a golf cart that you ride around in.

Sharon Cline: Downtown Woodstock, and.

Sharon Cline: You can put, you know, the logos and, and the names of the businesses that are part of the Main Street Warrior program. So they get free advertising kind of.

Sharon Cline: In that way.

Stone Payton: Well, so like Renee Deardorff, she runs up level design studio. She made these magnetic signs. I need to put in another order with her. And she made these foam course signs that you see here in the studio. And I thought it was a really a marvelous idea. And she helped me think that through is we’ve got the steel, you know, that’s magnetic. And so you can just interchange the signs. Right. We’re going to do the same thing on the SS freedom, another project I’ll tell you about where we can do some interchangeable, uh, interchangeable signs. But, uh, yeah, the golf cart is fun.

Sharon Cline: I do have.

Sharon Cline: To say, when you consider the the level of income and the ability to financially contribute in a significant way to any kind of nonprofit, it does feel like, well, I need to be a millionaire or, you know, a six figure income kind of company. And it’s nice to know that you don’t have to have that high level in order to be able to make an impact on causes that you believe in.

Stone Payton: Absolutely. And this is just one vehicle for that. What I have come to to believe sincerely, though, what these different constituencies need and want. They don’t need the grand gesture. If you’ve got 100 grand, write a check for 100 grand, but you know, show up and help them paint the side of the building. Bring some lunch by. Go pat somebody on the back. It’s the it doesn’t have to be a grand gesture, but this particular program does help us kind of aggregate resources and have a big impact on any on any one thing can I talk about. So can I talk about the boat project?

Sharon Cline: Let’s talk about the boat. So I saw.

Sharon Cline: You posted about it.

Sharon Cline: On Facebook.

Stone Payton: I did today. And I’m not a big Facebook poster, but I mean, you must have been 30 people, you know, so like, you know, liked it and commented and all that stuff, which 30 in my world, guys is a big deal. I’m not a social media guy. Really. Uh, so yeah. So what we did, we, uh, we went out and bought the most stripped down pontoon boat we could find. It’s actually a Triton has three of those little thingies under it with the idea that we were we were going to we’re going to build out this boat so that we can get wheelchairs on, on and off easily. And that’s not the only constituency that we plan to serve is not just people in a wheelchair, but I learned through my work with Wildlife Action and doing the disabled hunts, um, and the youth hunts, man, you know, some of these folks, it’s really difficult for them to get out and enjoy the outdoors. I take it for granted, right? Like, if, um, you know, like, tomorrow morning, I’m going to I’m going to it’s the last few days of deer hunting season. I’m going to go hunt in the morning, and I just take that for granted. But, you know, people who are confined to a wheelchair or just even maybe less mobile like, but particularly disabled vets, it’s just it’s tough for them to get out.

Stone Payton: So in conjunction with Wildlife Action and Main Street and Main Street Warriors and design and remodel brothers LG, I mean, there’s a lot of people that have rallied around this are what we’re doing is building out a boat that is not just accessible to so that people can get on the thing, but it’s it’s, um, it’s wheelchair friendly and friendly to folks who are who are less mobile. I can’t tell you how rewarding it is that, you know, I just I, we just sort of had the very beginnings of the idea, you know, I mentioned it to you. I mentioned it to Jim and John, the designer and model brothers. I mentioned it to aunt Sandy, who we all at Young Professionals at Woodstock know who that is, but she’s my sister in law. But I call her aunt Sandy. Aunt Sandy was the first one to stroke a check. Boom! The minute I told her about it and. And the minute I told Jim about it, he said darn well wired everybody. People write checks on behalf of causes for Jim just because he’s Jim. You know, I mean, and, you know, he talked to Wesley, and now, you know, he wrote a check and we got.

Stone Payton: And so now it’s this big deal. Uh, we have a website out by the time this is published is probably going to be some kind of website, but I am so looking forward to just getting people out and think about. Think about the folks like Nick Carberry out there with Nick Step Ministries. You know, some of those folks, you know, are are like not mobile at all unless someone’s pushing them in a wheelchair and they, they really need and want stuff to go out and do. So it’s not just there’s the boat and there’s that project and that accessibility, but there’s also because our mission at Wildlife Action is to provide those experiences is there’s also 27 acres. So just imagine, you know, Nick’s crowd or page read over at Limitless Disability or Veterans, a disabled veterans group or any group coming out. And it’s like a whole experience. You’re cooking the s’mores and the hot dogs at the campsite. Maybe you stayed over last night, and then you’re hopping on the boat and going for a cruise. Or maybe if you were going for a fishing trip. I am so excited about this, I can’t see straight.

Sharon Cline: I wish people really knew more how satisfying and rewarding and and touching it is to see someone experience. Um, I don’t know, have have access to an experience they never had before. And to know that you had a small part in making someone feel that kind of joy. Oh, my. There’s nothing like it. You can’t. You can’t pay to have that feeling.

Sharon Cline: You have to do it.

Stone Payton: And I’m so blessed that I’ve experienced it at like three different levels. I’ve experienced at the level of just at the idea stage, people just, just just corralling around me to get it off the ground. And then I’ve and I’ve experienced at the where everybody just is. I mean, I’m getting calls and emails. What can I do to help? I’m a fabricator. I’m a welder, you know. Do you do you need some help getting the motor running? You know, all these people are coming. So it’s incredibly rewarding to see people around you helping. And then to your point, as we’re talking to people, well, I got to tell you, the initial inspiration for all of this was partially my experience with the disabled hunt, right? I mean, you talk, you take a guy double amputee in a wheelchair, and then you look at that guy with grinning ear to ear when he’s holding the eight point deer that he’s harvested, right. So as partially inspired by that experience doing the disabled hunt for the last couple of years and then but also my buddy Kyle Snowpack over at Young Professionals at Woods. Right. He wanted to go fishing. And candidly, it’s been difficult to work out the logistics and access. And so but that’s just it’s incredibly rewarding even at this stage where they just know it’s coming. But can you imagine how it’s going to feel in like in April, May? You know, we get into the warmer weather and we’re actually out doing it. Oh my.

Sharon Cline: God.

Sharon Cline: There’s so many dark things that happen in this world. I just any opportunity to show that there are people that really do think beyond themselves, that really do give selflessly, that that really do want to see other people genuinely happy with nothing back to themselves just to experience that moment. There aren’t enough opportunities for that in my book. Honestly, I really believe that.

Sharon Cline: Well, we.

Stone Payton: Got to keep creating them, but I’ll share something else that’s come of my experience from this. You talk about like like expecting nothing back. You can’t help it. It does come back. I can’t I’ve written quite a bit of business in the last six weeks that you could kind of tie it back to some of the early serve. First serve often. Methodology, ethos, value, system of Business RadioX. In general, people really appreciate that you’re out there helping other people. So I mean, you’ve heard me say this before, but I you know, I find the more people you help, the more money you make and the more money you make, the more people you help. And then once you get that flywheel going, you can’t you couldn’t stop it.

Sharon Cline: If you if you wanted to.

Stone Payton: So yeah, you can go into it like that. No, no expectation of immediate recompense. And you’re going to get, It, uh, emotional compensation, you know, just.

Sharon Cline: Off the chart.

Stone Payton: But it’s probably going to help your business.

Sharon Cline: Well, it looks like what you’re really doing is is encouraging people to think like you do. It’s not. It is the serving aspect of it. It’s it is not just let me grow my business and let me financially, you know, benefit. It’s more about it’s all of it. Everyone wins in that scenario. And that to me is the best. It’s the win win, the win win.

Stone Payton: The only win that I haven’t achieved yet. And it’s not going to happen because he’s on a whole nother trajectory. As I really wanted Sharon to take over this studio. I just wanted access to it. But she’s like, you know, on a whole nother trajectory.

Sharon Cline: Let’s talk about.

Sharon Cline: Taking over the studio at the.

Sharon Cline: End of this, because I am looking.

Stone Payton: I’m looking for a co-host slash studio person to handle the day to day because we’re busy expanding the network. We’re getting I’m getting more and more involved in the nonprofit cause side of life. Um, and so that really, you know, I know you didn’t mean this to be a recruiting ad, but I am kind of looking for a co-host of Cherokee Business Radio and and someone to run kind of the day to day of this studio.

Sharon Cline: So when you talk about expanding the network, what do you mean what’s going on?

Stone Payton: So right now we, uh, we are in maybe 61, 62 markets in some way. We have 19 of these rooms like this.

Sharon Cline: Around the country.

Stone Payton: Right. And I’m one of the 19. Right. So me and my business partner, Lee Kantor, uh, we own the business radio X network, and, uh, so that’s my day job, right? And then I also run Cherokee Business Radio. Uh, but on the expansion, we want to go from 19 to 1000. We feel like what’s happening here in Woodstock with John Ray is doing such a fabulous job with in North Fulton. Mike Salmon up in Gwinnett, Tom Sheldon out in northeast, bejesus, Georgia. Bowe up in Gainesville, Trisha out in Houston, Karen out in Phoenix. What these people are doing, those in those communities. Uh, well, we more than believe it now. We know it. It’s replicable. This could be happening in so many communities with all everything we’re describing. And so we are actively seeking people in other markets. And I’ll tell you what was it, John? Somebody gave me the word. I think it might have been John Cloonan, like the marketing lingo for the avatar. Oh, right. So I’ll give you the avatar and hope I don’t, uh, the ideal avatar and hope I don’t run into any legal trouble because it’s not a knockout factor if you’re a guy, but established female business coach if and so that’s like the established female business coach. Some additional pluses on the on in uh for that are, uh, credentialed like ICF certified veteran.

Stone Payton: There’s a lot of reasons for that. But it’s a that makes it a good fit for us. Now what makes it a good fit for them and at least them worth having a conversation with us is if they if they have a good established business. But the greatest opportunity for improvement in their practice is the Is the prospecting, right? Like that’s the hardest part. And that’s true for a lot of professional services folks CPAs, lawyers, consultants, coaches. But but it is a lot for for coaches because that’s a gap we know we can fill. We have very, uh, well established proven. It always works. I mean, uh, methodology for filling that gap. So if there’s a female business coach, veteran ICF, uh, credentialed in, you know, San Jose or Pittsburgh or, you know, or Tampa, and it would and she’s, uh, she I want to say she and she really believes me. If I could just get more initial beginning conversations, those initial relationships going. I mean, we probably should team up or we ought to at least have a or at least have a conversation. So my day job and one of the things I’m working on very diligently right now is just having those conversations. Um, now I use some of our own toys and methodology to do that.

Stone Payton: We started I just have have launched a new coaching series under the High Velocity Media Property High Velocity Radio Media property, because that helps me serve first serve early serve often give female business coaches and in some males, but give them an opportunity to share their story, promote their work. But, um, you know, by the time I invite them on the show, have a conversation with them about to get ready for the show, and then have them on the show. I have a great relationship with them. And, you know, it’s, you know, still, eight out of ten of them may not make any sense for us to team up directly, but how many of those people know people we ought to talk to? And then when people are looking at what we’re doing, they’re able to see, okay, these guys are real. They’re just good folks trying to do good work. I don’t, you know, I’m very transparent about what we’re doing. Like, it’s important to me that everybody does win in the equation. So I’m spending a lot of time doing virtual interviews instead of instead of the in-studio interviews, just to have conversations with people. Maybe we should, uh, we should team up with.

Sharon Cline: Well, I mean, it’s so exciting because it really feels like you’ve got momentum going, especially if you said in the last six weeks or whatever, you’ve just like, had more and more people get to know even what radio Business RadioX is about. Yeah. And and just knowing that what the goal is, the win win.

Sharon Cline: It really is. Right.

Sharon Cline: Every everyone does have a moment to where they can feel like they’ve been heard, seen and understood and no one is unhappy to have that kind of.

Sharon Cline: Shine on them.

Sharon Cline: But also they get to have a relationship that starts in that space, and then it grows and grows and grows and their network grows. But it all starts from such good energy and good intentions behind it.

Stone Payton: See why I want her to run the studio?

Sharon Cline: Oh.

Sharon Cline: Um, let’s let’s talk stone.

Stone Payton: We’ll table that. But when you’re ready.

Sharon Cline: Yeah. All right, all right, we’ll talk.

Sharon Cline: You’re hilarious. We’ll see why it’s so fun to work with Stone though, because you are very inspiring and your brain thinks so differently from mine. And I love that it does because I just have me. And sometimes that’s not the best place to be. But like listening to how you consider the different ways all across the country that people can be affected positively. I think here in Woodstock, this is our town and you’re like the world.

Sharon Cline: I’m like, wait.

Stone Payton: Well, and I mean, candidly, if if I would just focus on running this studio and particularly if I had a coaching practice, right, like if I was a sales and marketing coach for training and development people, because I know a few things about how to do that. And if I primarily use this studio just to grow that business and then maybe do a little bit of Business RadioX, I’m sure I’d make a ton more money. But, you know, it’s.

Sharon Cline: Not about it’s it’s interesting too.

Sharon Cline: Because it.

Sharon Cline: Isn’t. Oh, do you really?

Sharon Cline: That’s nice to know. I married up.

Stone Payton: My wife, had a real job. Now, now.

Sharon Cline: Now she’s all retired. Yeah.

Stone Payton: She’s retired. So maybe.

Sharon Cline: Maybe you do need to.

Stone Payton: Be coming to you for a job. Uh, but but no, I mean, and if that’s where a person is in that stage of their life, that’s what they ought to do. And that’s what we coach these, um, coaches to do that we team up with is look, first and foremost, we’re going to share everything we think we know about this. And the first thing we want to do is use it just like you will with your clients. If you really get in the Business RadioX business, let’s just use it to grow your own business. Let’s see, like coaches, uh, what we’re learning about that ecosystem, the, uh, the heartbeat of that is the the discovery calls just having genuine, open, um, authentic conversations with prospective clients because think about how just think about the level of trust one has to endure just to have an initial, you know, it’s not hey, you know, let’s have a cup of coffee. Hey, ho, what do you do? What do I do? A good referral for me? Yeah. No, you’re like a real conversation.

Sharon Cline: Well, it always feels like. What do you do you want from me?

Sharon Cline: You know.

Sharon Cline: What do you need from me? And how can I write you a check of some kind? Like, that’s what it always feels like when you’re in those moments.

Stone Payton: And in our thing that. No, we’re using this to serve. And it’s not like, you know, our methodology is the antithesis of this. So it’s not this. It’s not, hey, come on, my show. And okay, you’ve been on my show and I buy my thing. It’s not that with me talking to somebody in another town that might. And it’s not that at a studio. It’s not that. But it is a great way we have all these relationship building moments in our in our process. You know, just when you’ve experienced this, just reaching out and inviting someone to come in the studio and look in the studio is way beyond doing virtual. But there’s value in both just reaching out and inviting someone to come in the studio and share their story, promote their work, how many genuine relationships and new friends, many of whom will be lifelong friends, have you made just by having the Fearless Formula show right out of here?

Sharon Cline: So true. I was just talking to Doctor Trudy Simmons, who was on the show last week about how she was a stranger when she walked in. Nice to meet you. Shake your hand. We come to the studio. By the time an hour has passed, I. I feel like we’re we’ve I don’t know, we’re like it just quickly moves our friendship forward very quickly to where I feel like I could call her if I needed something, and I really believe she would be be there for me. It’s it’s exponentially quickly. I can’t explain it’s like magical. And I know that sounds I don’t know, I don’t want to talk esoterically.

Sharon Cline: And it’s.

Stone Payton: Not and I want to be clear about this because there are people who market it this way, and I guess they’re making it. It’s not a parlor trick to get a sale. It’s you got to get above all that crap and just go out there and just try to help people.

Sharon Cline: Yeah, because it’s not about it’s not about what you can get from them. It’s really just about sharing their story and and what it’s like to be them for a little while. And, and from a, from a place of genuine curiosity. Not what you can do for me.

Sharon Cline: It’s really.

Stone Payton: Not. And in the same breath, just think if let’s let’s say you did have something to sell for some reason, if you sold office furniture and, and, you know, and she met the criteria for if you called her six weeks from now, six days from now, I’ll bet you she’d take your call.

Sharon Cline: Yes. Right. Yes. She would.

Stone Payton: If you shared with her what you’re up to, I bet you would listen to you about your products and services with an open mind. And if her husband’s brother sold off his furniture, and there’s just no way it’s going to. She could get divorced if she buys office furniture from you. That ain’t going to happen, right?

Sharon Cline: Right.

Stone Payton: She’s still going to try to help you any way she can.

Sharon Cline: She’d find someone or something.

Stone Payton: And, I mean, I got 21 years of that 100,000. Not me personally, but there’s I, I just have that relationship with people and, you know, and I, I utilize it and capitalize on it judiciously. And again, in a, in a serve first manner. But there’s absolutely nothing wrong, at least in my view, to build a relationship with someone. And if you have something that you, um, that you do or that you sell that might serve them, you don’t have to be cagey about it because you’ve got a real relationship with them. Just like I have a real relationship with you. I can I can call you and say, hey, Sharon, I’m selling these new radios that just go great on motorcycles. And you were. I thought of you first. Okay. You’re going to listen to me about, you know.

Sharon Cline: Yes, I because we’ve got all this history. That’s right.

Stone Payton: Does that make sense?

Sharon Cline: It does.

Stone Payton: But I know some people might think, or maybe this is the way they do, that. It’s like a parlor trick to just, you know, to get the lead or whatever, that we’re so far above all that fray with the way we do it.

Sharon Cline: Well, there’s no way to. Okay. How do I want to say this? I would not want someone in the studio and interview them with the with the energy of, now you’re going to hire me to do a do a voiceover, or now you’re going to hire me to do whatever underneath it, because I don’t know. I feel like I could feel that kind of disingenuousness.

Stone Payton: And you can’t be, but and at the same time, how appropriate, organic, authentic, and all of that is if through the process of you being part of the Business RadioX family, providing this opportunity, building the relationship with the inviting, and maybe even having a conversation to help them get ready doing the show. If if either you intentionally and or just sort of comes out that you do voiceover work and they’re getting ready to to do an audio book or whatever, I mean, there’s nothing wrong with it. Like if there’s a it’s it’s perfectly appropriate and organic. And again, a the equation is a win win if you put yourself kind of at that next tier.

Sharon Cline: Right, right. If I were.

Sharon Cline: To say, listen, if you ever hear I’ve had many authors, many voiceover over artists, many actors on the show, which has been really fun because I get to kind of see what their world is like, but it is not with the idea of of please hire me. It’s more of, here’s my side of what it is that you’re doing. What is it like to be you for a while? And we get to talk about very similar things, themes that I don’t get to talk about with a plumber or someone that is in a different kind of industry. But I absolutely if it’s supposed to work out, it will work out. And that is just the way I look at it. I never expect anything from anyone. It’s just here’s what I do. If you like how I sound, great, but if you don’t, I might know someone in the voiceover world who could work for you better. And it just is a there’s room for everyone. There’s success for everyone out there. It does not have to be me controlling the whole world. I feel like things land the way they’re supposed to, and they and they work out the way they’re supposed to.

Sharon Cline: Well, two.

Stone Payton: Observations on that. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit to learn that some of those folks have you top of mind. They’re out there doing their thing and somebody needs or wants or they hear it and they believe, oh, you know, oh, you need someone who can do a British accent and sounds really cool. And I tell you who you ought to talk to is Sharon. I bet that happens. Wouldn’t surprise me at all. Um, if that happens. But it also reminds me of another thing that a mentor of mine shared with me years and years ago. And one of the things that this firm did so well, they were so far above in their positioning, everybody else in the space. And it just you didn’t have to sell it. You just had to do the work and be gracious and generous and providing the the counsel and the thought leadership. But what he told me, he said, Stone, serve your competition and you won’t have any. Oh, and that has proven itself over and over and over and over again. So like, for example, anyone who is out there trying to use like toys like these that we’re surrounded with right now in this.

Sharon Cline: Platform, the RODECaster and the.

Stone Payton: Computer and the microphone and the, uh, and the, uh, the, the distribution pipeline of all these third party podcasting platforms. There’s a ton of people doing that kind of stuff, and they’re all out there trying to to help folks. These people are not threatening my lifestyle or what I’m trying to do at all. And, um, in a lot of cases, someone will come to me and I’ve kind of, you know, determined a niche in doing these kinds of things at that high tier and these kinds of things over here with the Community Partner program. And there’s this big swath in the middle of like, more production services and marketing services associated with producing a podcast, distributing a podcast, leveraging all that stuff. And I mean, I’m on the phone. Hey, Sharon, do you want to take a look at this? Hey, you know, Tim, do you want to take a look at this? Logan? Um, anyway, for whatever that’s worth, it might be worth what you paid for it, but I will repeat it. Serve your competition, and you won’t have any.

Sharon Cline: I love it because that is such a theme of mine. Is that, like I was saying, there’s room for everyone in the voiceover world. There’s room for everyone in whatever their dream is. It’s not. I can’t own anything anyway. I can’t control anything anymore.

Sharon Cline: And a bad one’s.

Stone Payton: A wash out. The bad the market will the market will take care of the ones that are that are charlatans or don’t deliver good work or whatever.

Sharon Cline: But I would agree with that. I didn’t think about that.

Stone Payton: Anyone of substance, there’s there’s room for all of those folks. Well, we’ll never run out of people who need the help. And then it’s up to us to be creative. Okay. You know, maybe not everybody can write a $30,000 check every year to help them grow their business, but anybody can write a $2,500 check a year, if you know what I mean.

Sharon Cline: Like, you can help them all.

Stone Payton: And somewhere in between all that. Okay, then let me find somebody that can.

Sharon Cline: What would you what who would be sort of. How can you explain Main Street Warriors for a local business right now? Like what would what would be the different tiers that they could be involved in.

Stone Payton: So and I’m going to simplify it down to just one plain tier for the Main Street warriors. And right now there’s there’s a couple of different tiers. But if you’re that, you know, person with an idea on a cocktail napkin and you’re out there networking, you’re getting your thing off the ground, um, then then there’s something there for you. Or, you know, if you got a business that’s doing 150 grand a year or 50 grand a year, but you a little bit of promotion and you want to be associated with, uh, giving to the community, and you want to be you want to tap into some of that. If you’re a main Street warrior, there’s some things that that we can do that we’re going to be doing anyway. And it’s just you don’t want to pretend like I’m this great hero philanthropist, but, you know, like, right now, we could have opened the show. You know, today’s episode is brought to you in part by Marietta marine or, you know, or up level design studio. Please go check them out at bumpity. Bump.com. We could have made, uh, the we could have put, like a logo there. So when people go listen to it, they hear that and they see the line. And then and then Renee over at over at uplevel could send out a thing.

Stone Payton: Hey, you know, we just sponsored this latest episode, but as a main Street warrior, to me, the greatest benefit is you. You get, you get to do some of the stuff that are that are high end, premium fee clients get to do. If you’re a main Street warrior, you’re and we have several chapters now because we’ve kind of replicated. But if you’re a Cherokee chapter of Main Street Warriors, if you’re a main Street warrior, you can legitimately, legitimately and as truthful, you can go out into the marketplace and you’re talking to somebody instead of doing that, hey, ho, let’s get a cup of coffee. You know, here’s my business card. You can have a genuine conversation with them for a moment that don’t talk about you at all. It talks about them. Hey. Sounds interesting. I don’t know if you knew this or not, but I’m a sponsor of Cherokee Business Radio, and I think you’d be a good guest on the show. If you’d like to. Come on, I’ll send you a booking link. And, and and when they send the booking link. They are the ambassador, right? They are the. So now I know that it’s Renee or David or, you know, Andrew or whoever has sent them over here.

Stone Payton: So I know depending on what else is going on that day, I can I can give them all that, all that love. But forget about all that digital promotional stuff. Just the fact that now you’re out there in the community and you’re we’re giving you a vehicle, we’re giving you a method to express what you want to express you. Now, you’ve put that we’ve put that Main Street warrior in a position to serve first, serve early, serve often. And they get a lot of the benefits of the it’s it’s just a marvelous relationship building moment. And you know, they can follow they can listen to it either live or on demand. They can follow back up with that person. It’s just, again, it’s all built on on real relationship, you know, and you’re talking you know, actually I think right now it’s 1250 a year. We’re going to change. It may be a little bit more than that when this gets published, but it’s not going to be more than $2,500 a year, so I don’t even know what that is. There’s just, you know, it’s it’s if you don’t do it, it’ll be because you don’t. You’re not buying into what we’re doing because of the money.

Sharon Cline: You know what I mean?

Stone Payton: You’re spending that on something stupid already.

Sharon Cline: Lip gloss is what I say. My favorite thing, what I like, too, is Business RadioX has got this just this established, legitimate name that really does add a little bit more credibility to what you’re doing if you’re just on your own.

Stone Payton: Yeah. Well, part of I mean, we’re a 21 year overnight success story.

Sharon Cline: Right? Overnight?

Stone Payton: No, it’s taken a long time to get it where it is. And it’s not Lena. It’s the we’re doing this on the back of this. Our studio partners are marvelous. Our guests, you know, because of this is what it is. When you get a guest in here that has a compelling story to share and they have substance and, you know, 99.9% of them do they share it with their extended network. And so, yeah, over the 21 years, we have remarkable, You know, all the jazz, the domain authority, the brand equity, all that marketing stuff. And so it passes this like if you if you are a guest on the Business RadioX network and part of your marketing strategy this year is to go get on other shows. At the risk of sounding a little bit immodest, if you send them a link and they may not even go to it, but if you send them a link to your Business RadioX interview, it ain’t going to hurt you.

Sharon Cline: You know what I mean? It’s so true.

Stone Payton: It will help you.

Sharon Cline: Well, I love it because it really feels like, um, the things are growing. I mean, it’s 2025 and it’s January, and already there’s, like, such momentum.

Sharon Cline: It’s exciting.

Stone Payton: It is exciting. It’s a lot of fun. I still right now, the thing that’s the biggest twinkle in my eye right now.

Sharon Cline: Is the.

Stone Payton: Boat is the boat.

Sharon Cline: Thing is the boat. It really.

Stone Payton: Is. So it’ll be something else six weeks from now. But it is right now.

Sharon Cline: Will you talk a little bit about wildlife action?

Sharon Cline: Yeah.

Stone Payton: So this is the most marvelous organization. I’m on the board, and the mission is preservation and conservancy conservancy. So the people we interact with a great deal are often people that don’t have that opportunity to do the hiking, the canoeing, the fishing, the camping, the hunting, the fishing, all that stuff. And so we’re able to provide those opportunities for them. And I mean, like for 60 bucks a year, you could your whole family can be a member.

Sharon Cline: Where is it located?

Stone Payton: It’s located on Kellogg Creek.

Sharon Cline: Okay. And Woodstock.

Stone Payton: And so it’s actually technically Acworth, but. Yeah, but if you go to Bells Ferry and hang a left on Kellogg or coming from here, hang a left on Kellogg. It’s there’s Kellogg day use area. And right before you get there, it’s a wildlife action. And since.

Sharon Cline: We’re mentioning it.

Stone Payton: We’ll put the address 27 acres facing Kellogg Creek.

Sharon Cline: Wow.

Stone Payton: And so right there on the lake. And it’s just it is beautiful. We have Pioneer Village, which Boy Scout troops? Some group not even when it’s warm, but always when it’s warm. But I mean, last weekend. In this coming weekend, a group will rent Pioneer Village and. And we have these Adirondack huts that they can stay in. But I mean, we also I mean, there’ll be 30 tents there and we do all kinds of activities like, uh, the week before Halloween, we had instead of calling it Pioneer Village, we called it Haunted Village. And so families each took one of these, uh, like, huts and it was a trick or treat station. Earlier that day, we had pumpkin carving. All right. And then a couple weeks later, we had a youth and disabled turkey hunt. And so they’re not shooting turkeys, but they’re, uh, like a turkey target. Right?

Sharon Cline: Gotcha.

Stone Payton: Everybody goes home with a turkey.

Sharon Cline: Every kid.

Stone Payton: So again, envision you got an eight year old girl sitting on her granddaddy’s lap. She’s been shooting a BB gun or a crossbow or a bow. And I mean, again, grinning ear to ear with granddaddy. And she’s holding. She can barely hold it. She’s holding up the turkey. But just think of that experience. And so and then you got all the people surrounding you out there cooking their hamburgers. Uh, and then, uh, you know, you got the folks who are going to do the disabled hunt out there proving to the RV ranger that they won’t shoot themselves in the foot, you know. So it’s like this kind of safety orientation thing, but again, incredibly rewarding. And so so we have Pioneer Village and then we have this lodge. Oh my God, it’s gorgeous. You got to come out and see the property. And it faces Kellogg Creek and the lake. We have weddings, funerals, memorial services. Uh, there’s a there’s a church called Rolling Thunder that comes out. We have a chaplain outside chapel, and sometimes they rent the lodge and they’ll come out there several Sundays over the. But it’s.

Sharon Cline: Beautiful.

Stone Payton: It’s absolutely gorgeous. Great fishing. We have a whole area where you clean the deer and all, but you also clean fish. We have a whole nother education building at the top. We have a nature trail that goes through the. On the other side of the gravel road is 3 or 400 acres of acres of Army Corps land that you can get a permit to archery hunt, which I do in several of my buddies do. But there’s a nature trail that you can walk that when it’s not hunting season. There’s so much to do out there.

Sharon Cline: What do you think? If you can compare and contrast what it’s like to be in that environment and be kind of connected to nature and, and your community in that way. And then what most people and specifically children do these days, which is very much indoors and very much online and with their phones. There has to be some kind of disconnect that they’re not experiencing. You know, they don’t have that experience of being so present and grounded in the world.

Stone Payton: Well, in so many, I didn’t realize it because I grew up kind of in the country, you know, and all that. And then, uh, and I’ve always liked to hunt and fish, but there’s a whole group of people, a whole population that just haven’t been. Once they’re exposed, they come back. That’s the neat thing about it. Once, once the kids come, they they want to want to come back and play in the creek. They want to go fishing. They want to go swimming, you know, all that kind of stuff. I can tell you it is incredibly rewarding to, to to help all kids enjoy it and families enjoy it, but it is particularly rewarding. Like during our summer adventure camp, we have a day camp, uh, to watch kids that just don’t get out much. You know, they’re used to being on the video games and the phone and all that. And, you know, they get out there and fish for an hour. I mean, that’s all they want to do, you know, or swim and that kind of thing. And so that’s a great deal of fun for me personally. And it wasn’t all a product of being part of wildlife action, but it is all a product of being outdoors. I find a that I just thoroughly enjoy the experience itself while I’m having the experience, but I swear to you, I’m a better husband, father, radio host, business partner. I’m you’re balanced aspect of my life is better because in my case, I case, I went and sat in a tree for a couple of hours last Friday or this Friday is the last day of hunting season. I guarantee you I am a better person in all of those roles, because that is a part of my of my life.

Sharon Cline: So I metal detect as you know, this my.

Sharon Cline: Like, oh, wow.

Sharon Cline: My nerdy hobby. So yeah. Um, so anyway, I love being outside for that reason. It’s there is a balance that happens to me when I get to experience just something physical like that out in nature and breathe, you know, clean air and dig in the dirt a little bit. And it’s hours that I can do it because it’s like such focused energy and I love it. But I am different when I come back inside and have to go onto my computer. My brain doesn’t. It just functions differently. It balances me out. And I think that’s what you were talking about, being kind of more of a balanced person. And I think that there must be something, um, that they can even, um, detect through, uh, brain scans what, a child who doesn’t really get outdoor activity and what it would be like for a child that does. There’s got to because you can feel a change in yourself. So I think even now when I think about kids going out and playing like, you know, like we used to do, it seems less safe for some reason to just like go out and play in a yard and.

Sharon Cline: Like, come back in for dinner. Maybe it.

Stone Payton: Is in a lot of environments and that’s nice that you can come to a safe.

Sharon Cline: Place. Exactly.

Sharon Cline: That’s what I’m thinking is you’ve got a very controlled environment, but you also get that same freedom.

Sharon Cline: Yeah, freedom. Feel freedom.

Stone Payton: And it’s yet another outlet for me. There’s something going on every week. We’re serving like, you know, we got the polar plunge, we got the poker run, we got the disabled hunt. We got the adventure camp. We got the camping, the all of that, uh, stuff going. So for me personally, it is. And I think this too is good for the brain chemistry and all that is to always have that thing I was telling you about earlier, something where it’s not even working on somebody else’s problem, but just go help somebody else and just get off of your thing for a little bit.

Sharon Cline: So I had like kind of a tough holiday season, but one of the things that’s helped me so much is actually that very notion is to get out of my own head and to think about other things, someone else that needs attention. It it shifts something in myself. Helping someone else does help me too. But it’s that’s not why I’m doing it. It’s just kind of to cope. But knowing that I’m helping someone else does give me a sense of self esteem, which actually helps me in my ability to deal with something difficult.

Stone Payton: If that makes all the sense in the world. And how much fun is it when you do that? And you and you swim at that end of the pool, you not only bump into, but you become great friends with and build terrific relationships with the likes of, you know, Dan Thrailkill and Joe.

Sharon Cline: Since I can’t see Dan and Joe, a.

Sharon Cline: Front porch advisors.

Sharon Cline: Right?

Stone Payton: And Jim and John at Design Remodel Brothers, and Nick Carberry and Paige Reid and you just all these, you know, and Ashley over at LG Credit Union in Wesley. I mean, just just look at the Jacob Schluter The people you’re hanging out with are just good. Mo just hanging out with people like that. It makes your life better.

Sharon Cline: It does. And recently I had a tree fall in my backyard. I posted it on Facebook. It was so upsetting because the only thing I have in that backyard is, I mean, there’s like a little field that has nothing.

Sharon Cline: Right, right.

Sharon Cline: And then there’s like this little fire pit area, and this tree was so long and ginormous, and it just landed right in the one spot I didn’t want it to, which was where everything was. It broke everything, which it’s fine. But I did post about it on Facebook, like, okay, and I cried. I was so touched at how many people offered to help fix this for me, and it was some of the people that you were just mentioning, you.

Sharon Cline: Know, and I.

Sharon Cline: Don’t like being on the receiving end of help because I like to help.

Sharon Cline: I do just to just to.

Stone Payton: Set the record.

Sharon Cline: Straight. I love.

Stone Payton: Being on the receiving.

Sharon Cline: End. Well, then you’ve got a.

Sharon Cline: Good friend in me because I’ll help.

Sharon Cline: You all.

Sharon Cline: Day. But I never want to be the person that needs help. I’d much rather help, but oh my goodness, I was touched. I can’t even tell you. And it happened right around like the holidays where I was kind of struggling with some things. But anyway, that helped me to realize how many good people are out there in the world, and that not only do I get to help people in that opportunity, you know, have opportunities for that, and I get to help someone feel the way I got to feel when when they help me. Oh my goodness. I just loved it. And I think the same for you is like, if most people were out in the world experiencing what that genuine intention is for, they would do it more often because it really is something that is is on a special level.

Stone Payton: Yeah. And in their defense, I, you know, I’m at a I’m at a point in my life where a lot of things are comfortable, maybe too comfortable. And I understand you kind of, you know, you got to make the mortgage and you got to get the kids to soccer practice. I, I realize, you know, it’s maybe comes a little easier for me right now, but man, to whatever degree you can make that an important aspect of your being, I think. I think it’ll come. I think you’ll find it very rewarding.

Sharon Cline: Well, if someone wanted to find out more about wildlife action, how could they do that?

Stone Payton: So I should know better about how to contact Wildlife Action. I was I will study up on that man if you’ll reach out to me. I’m not great about answering the phone. I work mostly on scheduled calls, but I’m good about seeing text and get back to you. So my direct line and my text is (770) 335-2050 and my email is stone s t o n e at Business RadioX dot com. And it’s it’ll be up before too long because Jim and John are helping us in ash Davenport over to ash is setting up a SS freedom org if you want to hear about that.

Sharon Cline: Oh my gosh, so exciting.

Sharon Cline: Yeah. Also, and anyone who’s interested in Main Street Warrior program, they can contact you for that as well.

Sharon Cline: Right. And you can.

Stone Payton: Go to Main Street Warriors. Org I need to update that. You I told you earlier, I can take all the help I can get.

Sharon Cline: I got so.

Stone Payton: Many irons in the fire. You know, just. I’ll just tell Sharon and she’ll get it figured out. But Main Street warriors.org ss freedom org Business RadioX dot com or you know shoot me an email at stone at Business RadioX dot com or text me (770) 335-2050. Uh, you know, I’ll interview you if that’ll serve you. We’ll have a beer under the elm tree.

Sharon Cline: Uh, Reformation across the street.

Stone Payton: And all the above.

Sharon Cline: Well, it’s so exciting to see what’s happening, and I’m.

Sharon Cline: I’m proud to be part of it.

Sharon Cline: Of course. Is there anything else you’d like to say before we kind of close out everything?

Sharon Cline: You know what?

Stone Payton: I’ve talked more than enough. But I promise you, if we do have a beer, we will talk more about you than me. It’s just. Sharon set this up so that I did a lot of talking, because she’s really good at that. But I really am interested in you and what I can do to help you.

Sharon Cline: That sounds perfect.

Sharon Cline: That’s kind of how I feel with business. I mean, with Fearless Formula two. How can I serve you? So, yeah, if anyone who would like to get in touch with any of us, there are lots of methods out there. Sharon Cline on Facebook.

Sharon Cline: And yeah.

Stone Payton: Tell them how to get.

Sharon Cline: To you. Oh, yeah.

Sharon Cline: Well, yeah. I mean, okay. On Facebook, Instagram I Sharon Cline dot com my website. Um, but Stone, it has been a pleasure to chit chat with you. This has been sorely needed.

Sharon Cline: It has. Yeah. I’ve really missed you.

Stone Payton: We should have like the Stone. No, you should get top billing. The Sharon.

Sharon Cline: Stone chat.

Sharon Cline: The Sharon and Stone chat. Oh, how cute is that? Well, who knows what’ll come in the future. Maybe I’ll be owning the studio.

Sharon Cline: I hope so.

Stone Payton: I’ll sell it to you.

Sharon Cline: For a dollar.

Sharon Cline: Oh, nice. Okay. You heard it here first. That’s legal, I’m sure. All right, everyone, thanks for listening again to Fearless Formula on Business RadioX. And again, this is Sharon Cline and Stone Payton, reminding you that with knowledge and understanding, we can have our own fearless formula. Have a great day.

 

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The National Black Business Pitch: Transforming Dreams into Reality for Black Entrepreneurs

January 28, 2025 by angishields

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In this episode of Women in Motion, Lee Kantor discusses the National Black Business Pitch (NBBP) program with Dr. Pamela Williamson, TJ Jackson, and Tanya Nixon. They explore the NBBP’s mission to empower Black-owned businesses through mentorship, networking, and educational resources. Dr. Williamson highlights the program’s community impact, while Tanya emphasizes personal development and effective business articulation. TJ talks about the importance of economic parity and mentorship. They detail the application process, eligibility criteria, and the diverse range of businesses the program supports.

Tanya-NixonTanya Nixon is the Director, Supplier Diversity for Aflac.

Nixon is responsible for the overall strategy for supplier diversity to include company-wide programs to ensure opportunities for women & minority-owned vendors to participate in procurement activities in addition to tracking and reporting of the diverse spend.

Nixon identifies, strategizes, evaluates, and develops sourcing and purchasing practices meant to promote diversity among the organization’s suppliers and contractors.

Prior to joining Aflac, Nixon was Director, Supplier Diversity & Responsible Sourcing at Visa Inc and she also served for over ten years as a Manager, for the National Supplier Diversity/Impact Spending at Kaiser Permanente, the $80-plus billion Oakland, California-based healthcare organization.

In this role, Nixon oversaw and advocated for a portfolio of contracts worth more than $1 billion with diverse companies in the staffing, professional and business services, and marketing sector.

Ms. Nixon is known industry-wide for her strong leadership, enthusiastic champion of supplier diversity, and her generosity in helping other large organizations develop and expand their own programs. Nixon is also the Chair of WBEC-West.

Ms. Nixon holds a master’s degree in organizational development, a bachelor’s degree in business management, and a certificate in Human Resource Management.

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Todd-JacksonTodd Jackson (TJ), is Manager, Supplier Diversity with Republic Services.

TJ is the manager of Supplier Diversity at Republic Services. He’s responsible for creating and managing supplier diversity in the environmental service industry to meet Republic Services’ set initiatives by end of 2025 in the supply chain.

TJ’s career spans from manufacturing to program management with positions such as Process and Equipment Development Engineering, Strategic Sourcing and Supplier Diversity.

Prior to joining Republic Services, TJ is a former employee of Intel Corporation and Union Pacific Railroad and served in the United States Air Force. TJ has served in the capacity of several board of directors’ positions for non-profit organizations. Motto: “I can……”

Connect with Todd on LinkedIn.

About our Co-Host

Pamela-Williamson-WBEC-WestDr. Pamela Williamson, President & CEO of WBEC-West,  is an exemplary, dedicated individual, and has extensive experience as a senior leader for over twenty years.

She has served as the CEO of SABA 7 a consulting firm, overseen quality control at a Psychiatric urgent care facility of a National Behavioral Health Care Organization where she served as Vice President and Deputy Director,and has served as the CEO of WBEC-West, since 2008.

Her extensive experience in developing and implementing innovative alliances with key stakeholders has enabled the organizations to reach new levels of growth and stability. Her ability to lead and empower staff members creates a strong team environment which filters throughout the entire organization.

She takes an active role in facilitating connections between corporations and women business enterprises and sees a promising future for WBENC Certified women-owned businesses.

Dr. Williamson holds a Doctorate in Healthcare Administration, a Master’s degrees in Business Administration, and bachelor degrees in both Psychology and Sociology.

Connect with Dr. Williamson on LinkedIn.

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Intro: Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios, it’s time for Women in Motion. Brought to you by WBEC-West. Join forces. Succeed together. Now, here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: Lee Kantor here. Another episode of Women in Motion. And this is going to be a good one. But before we get started, it’s important to recognize our sponsor, WBEC-West. Without them, we wouldn’t be sharing these important stories. Over the past few years, there’s been a buzz in the air around an opportunity called the National Black Business Pitch. Today, I have Dr. Pamela Williamson, TJ Jackson, and Tanya Nixon, the brains behind this opportunity. Welcome, everybody.

TJ Jackson: Well, thank you.

Tanya Nixon: Thank you, thank you.

Lee Kantor: Now-

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Double thanks.

Lee Kantor: Well, before we really get into the meat of this thing, why, as we bequest board members, do you feel that this program is important and should continue to be supported? Dr. Pam, why don’t you kind of chime in here?

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Sure. I think the main reason is that we really want to support local businesses in the communities that we reside and in the communities that need it most. And we know that one of the ways to improve the economic vitality of communities is to really help small businesses. And mainly, we wanted to help small businesses, but we really wanted to concentrate on black-owned businesses partly because, a lot of times, they don’t have the information around the opportunities that are available within corporate America for them to do business with them, and also because we know that black-owned businesses tend to keep the bulk of their money in the communities that they reside, which helps to create job opportunities within those environments.

Tanya Nixon: This is Tanya. You know that was great, Pamela. And the only thing I would add to that because I 100% agree, and this might sound a little bit silly, but I think it’s okay to really help people show up to be the best version of themselves, right? And so, yes, this creates economic vitality and economic equity within our communities, but we’re also giving them that edge to really speak up and speak well about what it is that they do to be proud about it. So, I really think that’s cool. And also, at the end of the day, these judges are volunteering their time because they also see the value to this type of programing. So, super, super proud of it.

TJ Jackson: And I’d just chime on that too, but thanks for being part of this podcast. I really appreciate it. But from several reports, whether it’d be from Wells Fargo, whether it’d be from US Department of Commerce or any other reports,women-owned business make up the fastest growing segment of entrepreneurs. And so, whether that’s national, whether that’s international, and that even is stated on our on the website for WBEC-West. But first, as a board member, I just really believe in the vision and the mission of WBEC-West. And that’s really not only for the MVP, but it’s really to promote and build parity in the economic community. Also, increase that vitality that everyone has mentioned as well. And that the program is really based and open to black-owned, funded, founded and controlled businesses, which really has three folds that I see that happens, right? You provide a safe place for these mentees to practice and refine their pitch. And then, of course, the feedback is very important as well. And then, of course, the additional resources that they may receive during the MVP program as well. So, it’s a continuum. I will always support this because it just places the value that Tanya has talked about around some of the black-owned businesses that really impact the economy. So, that is why I am a proud board member to really support the NBBP.

Lee Kantor: Now-

Dr. Pamela Williamson: This is Pamela. I just want to add to something Tanya said, so that we don’t skip over it. There are 2 or 3 distinct phases of the National Black Business Pitch. And the one that Tanya mentioned that I think we often skip over is the whole mentee-mentor relationship that happens, which really does allow them to fine tune their pitch, to go on to compete in other opportunities with corporate America but also with other pitch programs. So, this program does a lot as far as the educational component to get business owners able to really talk about what their business does but, also, to really identify the niche or the problem that the business solves. And that’s the mentorship program. And we have some amazing corporate mentors that volunteer their time, as TJ said.

Lee Kantor: Can we talk a little bit about kind of let’s get into the weeds of somebody raised their hand and says, “kay, I want to pitch,” what is kind of the pre-work they had to have done in order to do that and what can they expect from going through the program? Like you mentioned the mentorship, you mentioned the coaching and things like that, but what exactly will a participant have experienced by going through this program? Because it sounds like just win or lose, going through the program is a win.

Dr. Pamela Williamson: This is Pamela. You are absolutely right. Going through the program, just having that opportunity, you definitely walk away with so much knowledge that you wouldn’t have had in any other experience that you could go through. So, when someone raises their hand and says, “Yes, I’m interested in participating,” there is an application process that you go through. Part of that is you have to upload a three-minute pitch. And that upload has to be that business owner presenting their pitch. Those are reviewed by phase one judges. We try to narrow that down to a hundred participants in phase one. Then, we do another sweep to try to narrow it down to 30. Those 30 finalists, they are paired with a corporate mentor that will work with them to fine tune their pitch. Meaning that they will work with them on identifying the problem that they solve and how to present their solution to an audience of corporate judges.

TJ Jackson: Yeah. This is-

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Go ahead TJ.

TJ Jackson: I was getting ready to say, yeah, it’s beyond. As Pamela was stating the phase one and phase two, it’s really beyond the cash prizes. First of all, that business is exposed to many corporate members just by participating in that. They’re assessable to different networks that the corporate members or the mentor has as well. And then, of course, they’re exposed to government entities that may use the information that they are providing in the pitch to make a potential business opportunity. So, it really prepares you for the moment to provide information for an opportunity, whether that’d be a product or services, and you’ll be able to pivot, whether that’ll be a one-minute speech or whether that’d be a three-minute speech.

Tanya Nixon: And, Lee, this is Tanya. Let me just add one more thing to TJ’s and Dr. Pamela’s great process description. We should just say, too, that first off, we want to make sure before they get there, this owner has to be at least 21 years of age. The company featured must be 51% or more black-owned and controlled and headquartered in the US. And then, the applicant must be the owner, the founder, CEO or controlling shareholder of the company for at least three months prior to the competition.

Lee Kantor: Now, what’s-

Tanya Nixon: That’s the weeds part for you, Lee.

Lee Kantor: Well, do they have to have a thriving business with sales? Can it be an idea at the start-up stage? You know, at what stage can they be at? Or do they have to be, “Oh, they’ve already been in business. This is kind of a proven entity,” or can it be somebody with, “Hey, this is my idea, I got incorporated. I checked all the boxes, but I just need help in launching”?

Dr. Pamela Williamson: It could be all of the above, lee, in all honesty. So, we have some individuals who come through, and they’ve set up their business structure, they have a business thought or idea. In all honesty, a lot of those don’t get through phase one, and that’s just because they haven’t fine-tuned things yet. Most of the individuals who get through phase one have an established business.

Lee Kantor: And then, is it industry agnostic or is it kind of does it have to be a certain type of industry in order to participate? Like, does it have to be technology, or can it be services? Does it have to be manufacturing? Is there any type of industry?

TJ Jackson: Absolutely. It is… absolutely not. It can be any. It could be any industry. And that’s the beauty of it. Whether it’d be in consulting, whether it’d be in technology, whether it’d be in environmental services, whether it’d be in banking, it’s all about the connection of solving that problem that is out there that people can use as a product or service.

Lee Kantor: Now, what happens? Like say, okay, I raised my hand, I’ve checked all the boxes, and now I’m going through the program, what does those first conversations with the people that are mentors and coaches with me as a business owner? Like, what are some of the questions you’re going to ask me? And what do I have to be prepared for in order to get the most out of this experience?

Tanya Nixon: Well, I think first, you need to make sure that the coach is going to… the corporate member, who’s the coach, is going to make sure or help them prepare that their presentation is clear. As we’ve said numerous times throughout this, you have to have the ability to identify a problem that you’re solving for a company, right? You have to be able to know the company’s business, right? So, whatever you’re solving, you should be well tuned to what it is that that organization does. You should present your expertise, right? You should come off as a subject matter expert and make sure you say clearly and why it is you’re doing what you’re doing. And the last and not least thing is they have to be ready to respond to the questions from the judges. We’ve seen folks give a great, great presentation, and then they fold right at the end when they get those spontaneous questions. So, I really think it’s key that the mentor – and I know they do this – really sort of pepper spray them with random questions while they’re doing their presentation to really get them grounded and comfortable.

TJ Jackson: And, Lee, I think also it could be more of I will always, when I mentor, it’s really about the ABCs. And when I say ABCs, I mean accuracy, brevity and clarity. If you’re putting those ABCs into that pitch, you will have no problem on how to present your information. So, as I say, just remember the ABCs.

Tanya Nixon: I love that. I just wrote that down. I’m going to use that for myself.

Lee Kantor: Now, what advice would you give an applicant in order to be coachable? Because a lot of times, somebody, especially a business owner, and a lot of times, an early-stage business owner, they feel like they have to have all the answers and know everything. But a lot of times, there’s a humility that needs to be involved where they have to be vulnerable and open to advice from other people. So, how would you recommend someone being more coachable?

Tanya Nixon: Oh, to be more coachable.

TJ Jackson: I think you really set those expectations upfront, Lee. So, when you are mentoring, there are certain expectations you want to create is and create a safe place for those, right? And you can do that by just explaining to them that, “Hey, you are the expert. I’m just going to provide you some information on how to get better and how I see it as a corporate member,” because you have to remember, their audience is going to be trying to get some type of work with corporate government or even business-to-business, right? So, that is the key to establishing that relationship when you get started. So, just setting the expectations right upfront because the corporate member that’s mentoring, he or she is there to just ensure that the best opportunity and the best foot is put forward when presenting their product and service.

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Well, yeah.

Tanya Nixon: I’m sorry. Go ahead, Pamela.

Dr. Pamela Williamson: The one thing that I would add from someone who’s going into a mentorship relationship, I think that you have to go in a space of thinking that, “I may know my product or the service that I’m providing, but I don’t know everything,” and to not take suggestions personally. View it as an opportunity to grow. And I think the biggest thing that happens when a mentee and mentor relationships break down, it’s because the mentee is taking things personal and not really just allowing for that space to be filled with a different perspective and really considering the perspective that the mentor is coming from.

Lee Kantor: Tanya, is there?

Tanya Nixon: You know, I don’t have anything to add to that. Pamela went right exactly where I was going. You you have to be receptive to learning. And so, I’m a pretty direct person. So, I really just try to establish that right upfront. I let them know who I am and from the place that I’m coming from, right? I’m coming from the passionate place and wanting that person to succeed. So, for myself, I really always try to explain who I am upfront, just to make sure… you know, to see if it’s a match because if it is a hypersensitive person, then we probably aren’t going to be a good match. And that’s okay, right? You know, vive la différence. But I just really try to be direct about that – excuse me – because at the end of the day, we both want the same thing, which is for them to get that business. And so, I’m there for them in any way, shape or form to try to help them to do that. That’s my motivation and that’s their motivation. And so, if we can remember that and walk that path together, and to Pamela’s point, this is just folks providing insights to you. You can take the shoe, and wear it or not.

TJ Jackson: Yeah. Yeah, Lee. It really about both people, both the mentee or the mentor just creating an opportunity, right? So, the mentee should just think about it as an opportunity. And that’s what we are here to do is really to increase those opportunities. And to do that, I think you have to be open to some solutions and create that space for that.

Lee Kantor: Now, are there any kind of kind of factors that you believe should be part of a successful pitch? And are there certain things that shouldn’t be? Like, are there things that when you see them pitching, you’re like, “Okay, that’s good, that’s good, that’s good,” or “Man, I wish they wouldn’t have brought that up here. This probably isn’t the right spot for that”? So, are there some do’s and don’ts or some must-haves and must-not-haves that you’ve seen in pitches?

TJ Jackson: Yeah, that’s a good question. Go ahead, Tanya.

Tanya Nixon: Okay. Thanks. I would say the must-haves and things I like is data, right? Data is always really good. So, if you’re solving a problem and if you can equate it with numbers, folks really respond well to that. So, you’re increasing revenue or you’re saving costs in some way, right? Folks love to hear that. And that’s whether you’re a sourcing person, or a supplier diversity person, or a business unit. I like if folks when they use if then statements. If you do this or if you use me for this, this will be your result. So, just always remember that the pitch really is to sell you and that the person listening to it, right, I’m listening to the pitch, and I’m going to take that pitch. And that’s really what I’m going to repeat to my internal customers to sort of get you that book of business, to get that winner, that book of business.

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Yeah. The only thing I would add is what I like to see when I’ve been a judge in other pitch competitions – because unfortunately, I can’t be a judge in this one – I like it when they come in and their message is really clear. It’s not bogged down with gobbledygook that doesn’t really fit or doesn’t really bring anything to the table in their pitch. I like it when they… I think that a pitch should really talk about what makes you different, especially if you’re in a field that’s oversaturated. Like what makes you unique from your competitor is important. And then, the other thing is, sometimes, people get nervous, which is understandable, and they start oversharing about stuff that doesn’t matter to the pitch. So, the one thing that I can… the best advice I could give is, one, practice, practice, practice. You should be able to pitch forward and backwards because you should know your business better than anybody else. And the other thing that most pitches are timed, so you need to make sure you stay within your time because going over is a negative. And then, the last thing that I would say is make sure that you have thought of every possible question a judge could possibly ask and be able to answer it because, again, you should know your business better than anybody else.

Tanya Nixon: Well said.

TJ Jackson: Yeah, well said. I wasn’t going to add much. So, I think everyone said exactly what should have happened in providing that pitch. So, the only thing I would say is, try to be a good storyteller within that pitch.

Lee Kantor: And you mean like taking some of the data, and then making it into like a real-life anecdote, where you’re talking about a human situation or an impact like that?

Tanya Nixon: Yes, because you want to make it relatable. And to Pamela’s point, it’s timed, right. And I can tell we all sing from the same hymnal because I love a good story too. And that was one of my points. Every story has a beginning, a middle and an end. So, if they look at it that way and you have three minutes, right, so you have one minute to tell the beginning, one minute to tell the middle, and one minute to close it out. So, it really, really… It sounds simple. I know it’s complicated, but it really is that simple.

Lee Kantor: Now, I know each of you have been involved in pitches, and judging, and mentoring in a variety of ways over the years. Is there anything that stands out, a story that stands out to you that when an entrepreneur went through one of these things, it doesn’t have to be this one specifically, but where you’ve seen a real impact from going through a competition, and you’ve seen it really take a business to a new level? Is there a favorite story any of you can share about something you’ve experienced in the past?

TJ Jackson: Yeah, I can actually share one. This is TJ. So, I think when I first joined a council in trying to do the pitch competition, and it was really about practice, it was a WBE, woman-owned business, and went through the pitch, and the pitch was like 4 to 5 minutes long. And so, from there, the person was really open on, how would we be able to get that down to three minutes and still keep my intention while adding the data, which is needed to make you different from the multiple consulting folks that are hired through corporations? With her being open and providing just a little bit of data tied to a result that happened to make that person income a little bit better would be the better portion of that that story. And so, when she actually put that in there and cut down some of the other things, she succeeded in creating that three-minute pitch. And to this day, I see her and she works with not only WBEC-West but she’s part of one of the WBEC-West WBE. So, that is phenomenal, that coming from probably, I say maybe three years ago, 3 to 4 years ago.

Tanya Nixon: All right. Well, I have one, Lee. Gosh, it goes back though a little bit longer than three years ago but it’s a woman-owned business and this was before NBBP. And lady was making her pitch, and she was in, I want to say like landscaping, landscaping business. And so, she gave the pitch and the judges started asking questions. And one of the questions was around expansion. Like, for just landscaping, if you’re living in the Bay area, and I was living in California at the time, if you’re living in the Bay area, and just what are you what are you doing for the winter months? And she didn’t have a response because she explained that with sort of the downside of her business. And the net, because I don’t want it to be longer than a three-minute pitch from the WBE, but the net was she got the idea to expand her business to not only just be landscaping, but to also be sort of like snow removal. So, to have year-round service, how could she provide her services year-round? And so, she actually expanded her business, partnered with another WBE, and expanded that. So, they were able to make the business work year-round as opposed to seasonal.

Lee Kantor: Now, if people want to participate in future National Black Business Pitches, what is the best way to do that?

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Lee, the best way to do that is go to the website, which is the National Black Business Pitch. Our applications don’t start this year until February. It normally launches the first week of February, but it will give them… that website gives them all the information about the pitch. It also has some great stories from past winners and past participants. And it also talks… it has all of the guidelines for the program.

Lee Kantor: And then, what is the the window? Once it begins, like how long does it go? And then, like, how long does the mentoring happen?

Dr. Pamela Williamson: So, the deadline for applications, it kicks off in February and the application window closes in June. We pair up the mentors with the mentees in late June. And they start the process of mentoring. And then, we typically end that in August, and we actually have the finals in September.

Lee Kantor: And then, you do it again, right? This is the ongoing thing.

Tanya Nixon: We do it all over again.

Lee Kantor: Now, have any of these relationships of people you mentored, has it gone beyond the competition where you still stay in touch with some of these folks?

Tanya Nixon: We have several applicants that are still in contact with their mentors, which is wonderful. And they’ve taken that beyond what our expectations were. So, definitely.

TJ Jackson: And I think what is also good about the NBBP is that if somebody is really trying to consider applying, my thing would be said like Nike’s slogan, right? Just do it. As stated before, you have a mentor that can really support you through the process. You can learn a lot from different perspectives. It’s the experience of how you craft your business pitch, being able to just speak it at a moment’s notice. It’s informative, it’s rewarding, it’s wonderful, right? It’s just a valuable thing that someone should always apply. And not only that, you get an opportunity to really support black business from just participating. So, yeah, please go to the website. Let’s listen to some of the testimonials that people are giving. Those are the winners and some that are the top 30. They give great testimony. So, those are some of the resources that you can look at.

Lee Kantor: And so, what do you need more of? Do you need more applicants to take part in the pitch competition? Do you need more mentors and judges? Like, is there a place for everybody in this ecosystem right now and where can people go to help?

Dr. Pamela Williamson: There is a place for everyone in the ecosystem, and they can go to the website in order to get more information, but also to say, “Hey, I’m interested in being a mentor.” And so, yes, we are. The applications again will kick off in February. We believe the more, the merrier. And so, appreciate the opportunity to give that shout out.

Lee Kantor: And so, you don’t have to be a certified woman business to participate, right?

Dr. Pamela Williamson: You do not. In fact, we would like more individuals that are not certified to participate. We truly market to individuals who are non-certified. They’re the individuals who typically don’t know about the amazing opportunities within corporations to do business with them. And they, typically, are the ones who really need the assistance in fine tuning their pitch.

Lee Kantor: So, if anybody knows any business owner that meets the criteria, they should really encourage them to check this out because this seems like a no brainer.

TJ Jackson: Absolutely.

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Yes, true.

Tanya Nixon: You know, I think so. And it’s more than just a contest, right? You know, this is an opportunity for you to expand your network.

Lee Kantor: Right, which everybody should be doing all the time.

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Yes.

Tanya Nixon: Yes, all the time. So, it’s great, of course, if you win. But even if not, you get down to the finalist. As Pamela said, you start with 100, and then you get down to 30 finalists, right, that are going to go through this process. Well, you should have 29 new best friends at the end of it.

Lee Kantor: Good stuff. Well, TJ, go ahead.

TJ Jackson: And I was getting ready to say, in WBEC-West, we are your advocacy, for sure. We will definitely help you and support you. And we want you to connect with folks for opportunities. So, please go to the website, apply, and go through the experience that is very valuable to you.

Dr. Pamela Williamson: Yes.

Lee Kantor: Well, thank you, all three, for doing what you do. You’re doing such important work, and we appreciate you.

Tanya Nixon: Well, thank you and thank you for this-

TJ Jackson: Thank you.

Tanya Nixon: … opportunity and platform.

TJ Jackson: Absolutely. Thank you.

Lee Kantor: All right. This is Lee Kantor. We’ll see you all next time on Women in Motion.

 

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