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Marie Davis With Path to Shine And Brian Gamel With Woodstock Arts

February 10, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

Cherokee Business Radio
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MarieDavisMarie Davis, Executive Director at Path To Shine

Marie is an Atlanta, Georgia native. After obtaining a Social Work degree at The University of Georgia, she served as a foster care coordinator for the State of Georgia, certifying foster parents and working with foster care children. After obtaining a Series 7 and 63 financial license, she worked with a private financial firm as Assistant to the President.

While raising her two children, Marie worked for a local developer, forming relationships with County and State officials. Moving to Florida for ten years, Marie served as a Targeted Case Manager with Children’s Home Society of Florida and a certified tutor for autistic children. Marie also served as the Director of Mentoring for Center Point, a non-profit in Hall County Georgia. She recruited and trained mentors for several school systems.

She is also a Technical Assistant for www.mentoring.org, the National MENTOR program; through that program, she works with mentor programs across the country to help them with direction and development. Program innovation and designing ways to serve all children through mentorship is what she loves best about her job. Marie also serves on the Georgia Mentor Provider Council.

Currently, Marie is the Launch Manager for Georgia Center for Employee Ownership, directing the opening of the Georgia program.

Follow Path To Shine on LinkedIn and Twitter.

Brian Gamel, Managing Director at Woodstock Arts

Brian Gamel grew up in the Woodstock area and has loved this town ever since. After going off to get his undergraduate degree in Theatre from Florida State University he came back home and became a part of the Elm Street Cultural Arts Village’s team, now known as Woodstock Arts.

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Intro: [00:00:07] Welcome to Franchise Marketing Radio, brought to you by SeoSamba Comprehensive, high performing marketing solutions for mature and emerging franchise brands to supercharge your franchise marketing. Go to seosamba.com that’s seosamba.com.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:31] Lee Kantor here, another episode of Franchise Marketing Radio, and this is going to be a fun one today on the show, we have Angela Pauls with buzz franchise brands. Welcome, Angela.

Angela Paules: [00:00:41] Thank you. Good to be here.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:43] Well, I’m excited to learn what you’re up to. Tell us a little bit about buzz. How are you serving folks?

Angela Paules: [00:00:48] So bus franchise brands were a multi brand franchising company, and our current brand portfolio includes Pool Scouts, which is a residential school cleaning franchise. Home Claim Heroes, which is residential house cleaning, and British Swim School, which is water safety and swim instruction for kids and adults of all ages.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:10] Now what was the kind of how did the the company get started? Did it start in one brand and then evolved into these others? Or was it built to be a conglomerate all along?

Angela Paules: [00:01:21] Yeah, it actually it did start as one brand. In fact, our our founding brand was Mosquito Joe, and it’s that started in 2012 when our CEO, Kevin Wilson, purchased a local mosquito control business that was operating in the Hampton Roads, Virginia, area and called Mosquito Joe, and was working with the founders to expand the business through franchising. And so he recruited the our initial corporate team of about five people, myself included. And we were really tasked with taking that local business that had two trucks operating and a few hundred customers and turned it into what became one of the fastest growing franchises, especially in the home services space. We grew that business to over three hundred and fifty locations and eventually sold it in 2018 to neighborly. So along the way, in about 2015, we sort of transitioned into a multi brand strategy and that was really kind of the birth of the parent company of bus franchise brands and and really we we saw what we were doing with Mosquito Joe, and we just felt like we could serve in other ways. We had a really strong team, some really strong systems in place. And so in 2016, we launched pool scouts and both with the local operation that we operated and franchising effort simultaneously. And then just about a year later, we launched a local operation for home clean heroes and began franchising that business in Twenty Eighteen, which was the same year as I mentioned that we sold Mosquito Joe. And then in 2019, we acquired British Swim School. So that’s how we got to three brands currently, and our intent is to continue to build additional brands over the years to come. We sort of put everything on pause as far as larger brand portfolio growth during COVID so that we could really focus on our existing franchises and everything that they were going through and the additional support that they needed during that time. But now that everybody’s back up and operating and things are turning more normal than they have been in the last few years, we’re ready to continue to build on that as well.

Lee Kantor: [00:03:57] And the name buzz is an homage to the beginnings at mosquito growth.

Angela Paules: [00:04:03] It’s a bit of a it’s a bit of both. It’s kind of a nice tie to that. But we also are. Our tagline is that we build build companies that get people talking. And so just kind of being the the buzz, we’re very people oriented businesses. All of our brands are service focused businesses. And so it’s really that building the buzz in the communities through the services that we’re providing

Lee Kantor: [00:04:26] Now, I’m seeing more and more kind of clusters of brands around a certain type of customer. Is that kind of your strategy and that this in this home services space, a customer to one of your brands might be a customer to, you know, all of your brands?

Angela Paules: [00:04:45] Potentially. Yeah, we definitely started in the home services space, mosquito pool scouts and home clean heroes. All very much home service focused British Swim School was a bit of a divergence from that, but in that it’s not a home service, but it is still bringing our services to people in. The consumer doesn’t look that different from those in our other brands, so we certainly look for opportunities to have customers who would fit multiple of our brands, but we also don’t try to force that relationship. We in markets where we have multiple operating brands, we certainly provide all the support and materials to make sure that people are aware that we have sister brands. And and there may be some promotional opportunities around that, but we don’t want to lose the core consumer for each of our individual brands or that core message either. So it’s I think there’s a bit of a balance there between maintaining that authenticity and being able to encourage people that if you’re happy working with us in this capacity with this brand and we’re cleaning your house and you also have a pool, we can help you there as well.

Lee Kantor: [00:05:58] Now does that help in the acquisition of franchisees to to give them a path to create multiple revenue streams with kind of that economies of scale of the customer acquisition?

Angela Paules: [00:06:10] Yeah, it is certainly something that’s out there, we don’t have we only have a couple franchisees at this point that are operating more than one brand. And it’s it’s again one of those things where we want to see a franchisee typically come in with focused on one brand and really get them successful in that space first and then look at, OK, what are ways that we can continue to build on your business? Is it opening additional territories of that particular brand and growing that way? Or is it adding a complementary brand in your area and growing that way? There’s a few different options there, so we’ll work with franchisees to figure out what’s the best fit for them

Lee Kantor: [00:06:49] Now as part of your secret sauce, the ability to identify and acquire franchisees is that what makes you special? It buzzes that part of what differentiates you or is your ability to kind of create these brands that the consumer gravitates towards.

Angela Paules: [00:07:11] Yeah, I think, you know, I’m a marketing person, so I’m pretty biased in that regard, but I would say that I think our marketing is something that differentiates us. We put a lot of emphasis into the brands that we build from the start. We do a lot of research, consumer research and get to get our brand set up strong for success from the start. And then we’ve built essentially an in-house agency of support. And so we have a digital team, we have a creative team that that’s capabilities go from everything designed to video and photography. We’ve got a direct mail marketing team and then we’ve got brand dedicated marketing teams that really help our franchisees focus on local marketing efforts like building partnerships and getting out there in their communities. And so even when we have a new emerging brand that may only have five core people on the team, they’re leveraging all these shared services marketing resources to give them an additional maybe 10 people who are also supporting that brand. So it is it’s a lot of being able to have some good in-house expertize across the different functions of marketing that I think really supports us and our franchisees being successful when it comes to customer recruitment and even just building the relationships with consumers beyond the initial acquisition as well.

Lee Kantor: [00:08:41] Now, any advice for an emerging franchise that’s out there, that is maybe at the beginning stages, you have a lot of track record and probably scar tissue of launching a new brand. Is there some kind of dos and don’ts you’ve learned over the years that help a emerging franchise? You know, maybe get that escape velocity they need to really, you know, have that explosive growth that you’ve experienced?

Angela Paules: [00:09:05] There’s a few things that come to mind. I mean, I think part of it is really hiring the right people. And and I think that goes functionally speaking, but also culturally speaking, you want to build a team of people who really believes in what they’re doing and who really cares about your company’s mission. Our mission at BFD is to enable people to realize their dreams, and that goes through largely through our franchisees having the business ownership opportunity. But it’s really important that all of our corporate team who are supporting our franchisees believes in that mission as well, and that they really care and see their own personal contribution through their role to supporting the franchisees. So that’s one thing I would say is, you know, hire slow, I guess, as they say, make good, make good decisions there. And then I think just be very aware of your situation and know that things may change and evolve as your your brand grows. So when we started out with Mosquito Joe and there were five of us. I wasn’t running an in-house agency at that point. I was outsourcing a lot of what we were doing from a marketing perspective because I was the only marketing resources resource. However, as our brand was growing and we were able to add more in-house support, we were able to over time sort of transition and bring more services in-house and kind of pick and choose what was outsourced first versus handled in-house.

Angela Paules: [00:10:45] So I think sometimes it can be tempting as an emerging brand to go out and ask everybody else what they’re doing, who’s really successful and then mirror that to a T. And sometimes that’s just not realistic, depending on where you are in that stage of growth for your brand. So I think being very aware of that and then the last thing I would say is staying very focused on your customer, knowing who that person is, communicating with them, regularly, sending them surveys after every service that you’re doing so that you know where where operations are going, well, where there’s opportunities for improvement, what you could do better to help retain them for a longer period of time or get them to maybe increase their spend and what they’re doing with you. But you don’t want to make assumptions on that sort of thing. And that can also change over time. So it shouldn’t be a one time communication, but making sure that you’re very focused on that. So whether you’re doing surveys or focus groups or or a variety of things, make sure that you you’re always staying in touch with who that customer is. And in prioritizing that as you think about the decisions that you make growing your brand.

Lee Kantor: [00:12:08] Now, from a tactical standpoint in marketing. As there are certain things that you see that emerging brands aren’t kind of leveraging to the degree that you would recommend, like are they leaning too heavily, maybe on digital marketing and they should be focusing on maybe more partnerships among, you know, human to human relationships and leverage those kind of things? Is there something that you see out there that you wish people would do more of?

Angela Paules: [00:12:36] Yeah, that’s a great question, and I do think there is a tendency. Everything really has gone digital in a lot of ways, and so that does tend to be our first place to go from a marketing perspective, and I see everybody throwing all their eggs in that digital basket. But the reality is there’s there’s still not a silver bullet when it comes to marketing, and the old adage of the rule of seven still applies where consumers, it’s going to take seeing your message several different times and in several different places before they’re going to take action. And I would say that that the current version of that is probably more like the rule of twenty five or something with the amount of media impressions that we’re exposed to on a daily basis. So you don’t want to count on the only place that you’re finding consumers to be online, you want people to certainly see messages online, and that’s a great place to communicate with people because we’re spending so much time there. But also, as you’re being active in the community, people still want to do business with people.

Angela Paules: [00:13:44] That has not changed. And so if you’ve got opportunities to have a face to face conversation with someone who could be a potential customer, you’re building a much stronger and more personal relationship from the start. And that’s going to be the kind of customer who feels like they know your brand and have a different level of loyalty to your brand. That’s going to be the one that’s telling their friends and referring other people to you. And and by nature, those referred customers are also going to be tend to be more loyal. So I definitely think local marketing is key and making sure that your franchisees feel comfortable and empowered to go out there and know how to speak about their business and where to speak about their business and what some of those partnerships that they should pursue are. Because I think that’s that’s probably one of the most important things. It’s just remembering that that people still want to do business with people. So the more that you can personalize that experience, the better.

Lee Kantor: [00:14:47] And and that’s really, I think one of the key learnings that a franchisee has to that mindset has to shift in terms of that’s something that they have to do. A lot of that kind of boots on the ground work of building those relationships. And it’s it’s not something that corporate can just run blanket ads and that’s going to be some magic ticket to success. It requires it’s a team, you know?

Angela Paules: [00:15:11] Exactly. And that’s one of the things, you know, when I have new franchisees come through training, a lot of them ask, You know, what is it that makes your most successful franchisees? What are they doing different than than those that are maybe just trucking along? And and I always say it’s the ones that that get out there and are active. And if you are not the kind of person who is very social or is a very comfortable networker or has the time to get out there and do things, that’s OK, but then you should definitely find someone that can do that for your business if it’s not you. So whether you’re hiring someone, whether you’re getting a college intern or somebody who is really passionate about representing your business and believes in your mission and love speaking with people and is going to be the brand ambassador out there where you’re branded polo and going and interacting in places where your customers will be. That’s really essential, right?

Lee Kantor: [00:16:16] It’s hard to kind of outsource that. If you’re going to outsource it, they you have to outsource it to somebody who is willing to be that evangelist that’s out there, human to human representing the brand, you need the brand ubiquity to a certain degree in order to get those seven to twenty five impressions so they can make an informed buying decision. So it’s going to happen one way or another. Either you’re going to pay for it in terms of running a million ads or you’re going to pay for it in terms of hiring the right person or you’re going to pay for it in terms of your time being out there, being that ambassador.

Angela Paules: [00:16:52] Exactly. And it’s probably going to be a combination of all of the above. But I do think one mistake that I do see people make is just trying to check that off the list and say, OK, well, we had a table at the local Fourth of July parade or something. It’s like, OK, but who is who was there representing you? Was it someone sitting in a chair behind the table waiting for people to approach them and ask questions? Or was it somebody out there engaging and handing out branded tchotchkes and interacting and starting conversations with the kids walking by? Or was it someone who was really going beyond and not expecting people to come? You are you going to engage with them?

Lee Kantor: [00:17:38] Right? And that’s that’s probably the key when you’re trying to identify that ideal franchisee. Or are they going to do that or do they have a plan to do to behave in that manner in order to get the success that both of you want?

Angela Paules: [00:17:52] Exactly.

Lee Kantor: [00:17:53] Now let’s talk a little bit about the idea of franchisee. Have you identified the type of person that makes a good buzz franchisee?

Angela Paules: [00:18:02] So we we talk about candidates who are passionate, hardworking and driven. I mean, that’s kind of the core of the core traits that we want. You know, a certain level of business understanding is is ideal. But there’s also that’s also pretty trainable area. We’ve got a lot of systems in place and we can educate on that. I think it comes down to people with our brands who are are passionate about people and who are people, people, you know, and and who can build those relationships. Those are the ones that are going to be successful. And then by each individual brand, there may be different aspects to to the brand that appeal to different types of people. So, for example, British Swim School or mission really is about helping to save lives and helping to reduce the situations of drowning across North America to by helping people understand and learn key lifesaving skills and water safety skills, and then learning how to swim. And so the type of person that’s going to be a great franchisee, there is someone who maybe really enjoys working with kids or really feels passionate about a purpose driven brand and making an impact in that way in their community pool scouts. It may be someone who has a little bit more technical or mechanical interest or background, or someone who wants to spend more time outside and what they’re doing. So it can. It can vary a bit by brand as well, but I think the core of it really is about being hardworking, enjoying working with people and building relationships.

Lee Kantor: [00:19:53] And if somebody wants to learn more about the brands and get on your calendar or somebody on the team’s calendar to have a more substantive conversation, what’s the website?

Angela Paules: [00:20:03] Yeah, so you can go to Buzz Franchise Brands, the best franchise brand, and that’s got links to all three of our different brands. And from there you can fill out forms to get in touch with us, and we’d love to share information with anyone about our brands.

Lee Kantor: [00:20:21] Well, Angela, thank you so much for sharing your story today. You’re doing important work and we appreciate you.

Angela Paules: [00:20:26] Thanks so much.

Lee Kantor: [00:20:27] All right, this is Lee Kantor. We’ll see you next time on Franchise Marketing Radio.

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Don McCrea With Your Business Legacy

February 9, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

DonMcCrea
Austin Business Radio
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DonMcCreaDon McCrea is the head of Your Business Legacy, and a family business retirement exit planning coach. For over 25 years, he helped individuals and their businesses achieve phenomenal, enduring success. He worked with businesses of all sizes in a variety of capacities—business strategist; management, marketing and sales consultant; sales, marketing, and systems development manager; intrapreneur (in-house entrepreneur); and systems designer; custom education solutions consultant; and educator.

Don holds a Ph.D. in Executive Management from the Peter F. Drucker Graduate School of Management at Claremont Graduate University and an M.S. in Mathematics from the University of Michigan.

Connect with Don on LinkedIn and follow YBL on Facebook.

What You’ll Learn In This Episode

  • Successfully Retiring as a Family Business Owner
  • The biggest issues family business owners face when preparing to retire
  • The critical pieces to plan for to successfully pass on the business

This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix

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Intro: [00:00:02] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for Coach the Coach radio brought to you by the Business RadioX Ambassador Program, the no-cost business development strategy for coaches who want to spend more time serving local business clients and less time selling them. Go to brxambassador.com To learn more. Now here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:33] Lee Kantor here, another episode of Coach the Coach Radio, and this is going to be a fun one today on the show, we have Don McCrea and he is with your business legacy. Welcome, Don.

Don McCrea: [00:00:42] Great. Thank you, Lee. It’s a pleasure to be here.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:44] Well, I’m excited to learn what you’re up to. Tell us a little bit about your business legacy. How are you serving, folks?

Don McCrea: [00:00:49] The primary audience that I serve are those who are ready to either retire from their business or if they want to spend a little less time with their business. And I focus on family businesses, that’s a special place in my heart. But it doesn’t have to be considered to be a family business because the needs are all the same and the bigger. The big issues, of course, are the lack of planning and even recognizing the need to perhaps do some considerable planning before they retire from their business. So it’s about helping them retire successfully and helping them transition that business successfully to the next leader.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:28] Now how do you open up the conversation with a business owner? Because I would think that this is something they’re so heads down and they’re so usually driven and ambitious that stopping isn’t kind of in their radar. Does something typically happen? Is there something like a health scare or does some some event happen that kind of opens up their mind of, Hey, I better have a plan here. I can’t just let this kind of jump out at me.

Don McCrea: [00:01:54] Well, it can. It can happen in a variety of ways, and certainly some of it is, you know, I just like to spend less time with my business. This is really much more of a referral business. My best referral sources are estate planners, financial planners, sometimes CPAs, because they’re all having these endpoint conversations with the business owner. And, you know, just part of financial planning and estate planning, especially is really looking at when do you expect this event to occur and what part of that. So a lot of it is those those referral sources, some of it, though, is is business owners who just want a change in their business and they’re not sure where to go, what to do next, how to even get started in it. There’s a huge lack of of even recognition that planning ahead is necessary. It’s almost as though they they they it’s kind of at the back of their mind. Well, I can either sell the business or close the doors and and not understanding that even selling the business may require a lot of planning if they’ve been making all the decisions for 30 years and and they’ve not groomed, excuse me, succession in that if they’ve not groomed their successors for that, then the business doesn’t have much value because someone else can’t just step in and take the lead.

Lee Kantor: [00:03:16] Now, when you’re having these conversations with folks, they might, I guess, intellectually understand that, but they hadn’t maybe tactically done anything to, you know, kind of ensure that the transition happens seamlessly. I would imagine that that opens up a can of worms for them. It’s like, OK, now what do I do? And I can’t retire today. That means I have to wait a period of time. I would imagine it’s a couple of years, at least, to transition into having a sellable business because that might not be a sellable business, might be a different business than the one that they have because they might have to put things in place to make it more attractive in order to bring out the most value.

Don McCrea: [00:03:55] That’s exactly right. And and, you know, selling the business is just one of a number of options, particularly if it’s a family business. There may be a family member, a son, a daughter or a niece nephew who’s interested in really running the business. On the other hand, I’m I’m seeing more now of this younger generation that they want to go do their own thing. And so the the business founder is is kind of left hanging as well. I want to preserve this legacy that I’ve created over decades. How do I do that? Who do I transition it to? And some of the options are things like worker cooperatives, for example, or bringing in a business partner and allowing that partner to really take on more much more of the day to day operational aspects of the business. So there are just a variety of things that that can be considered. So the first is stage usually is I want something different, but I’m not sure what to do next. And that’s usually where I I get involved and it’s it’s an educational process. That’s part of the reason that I’m out there speaking to groups doing networking, et cetera, is to just make them aware of of the need to talk to someone who understands the process.

Lee Kantor: [00:05:17] And it’s one of those things I would imagine you find that in the head of the business owner, they think that the business is worth X. And then, you know, when you get someone to do a valuation, it might be X minus and they might. Really want to accept that or or they it kind of makes them aware that they might have to put things in place to make it get the valuation that they would like it to get. Do you help them through that?

Don McCrea: [00:05:44] I I can. I do. That’s that’s certainly one of the options. Once they’ve looked at other options like a worker cooperative, for example, then well, let’s

Lee Kantor: [00:05:57] Let’s pause right there. Worker worker cooperative is a new term to me, and it’s probably to a lot of our listeners. Can you explain what that means and how it works?

Don McCrea: [00:06:07] Sure. Most people are familiar with ESOPs employee stock ownership program. Sure. And there’s a there’s there are a lot of regulations associated with it, and I’m not an attorney. I call in business attorneys, estate planners, financial planners, et cetera. When that’s really what the client calls for and make sure that everyone’s talking to everyone else. Examples are complicated and they have rules and regulations associated with them and the filings you have to do and so on. Worker cooperatives are a much simpler process, and it’s when some or all of the all of the employees have a share in the business and there there are processes to put that together. I have a couple of consultants I work with who are specialists in really working through all of the issues of that, but it’s much simpler. It doesn’t have the rules and regulations. It really depends much more upon the the devotion of the employees, their interest in owning a piece of a business of their own, their willingness to to put in the time and the effort to do that. And then is the leadership and and business management expertize. They’re either individually or collectively. And if not, there are things that can be done to really build that expertize as well. So it’s each situation is totally different than the other, but it is really focused on the business and the employees being able to run that business successfully as opposed to meeting all these rules and regulations and so on that Aesop’s require.

Lee Kantor: [00:07:42] So now when you’re talking to a business leader about their options and they’re weighing, you know, what is the best fit for them? What are some of the questions that they typically ask you in order to kind of hone in on, you know, on what is the best option and what are some of the trade offs of the different options?

Don McCrea: [00:08:03] Well, it’s it’s much more of a conversation than than a question and response sort of thing because they don’t know what questions to ask very often. Very often it’s it’s what do I do next? Where do I start? What’s involved? And that initial exploratory conversation, it’s a complimentary conversation that really gets into understanding what what are they looking to do next with their life? What are their goals? Do they just want to spend less time with their business for a couple of years and maybe do a little more traveling? Or do they really want to fully separate from the business? And those are very different decisions because fully separating is almost a grieving process. This is your baby you’ve built for 30 plus years. All of a sudden you’re going to step away from that baby. And so a piece of that discussion is is really helping them understand what do they really want to do with their lives? And are they prepared to do that? I mean, I’ve, you know, I could tell you a number of stories of business owners, for example, that had had done no financial planning whatsoever.

Don McCrea: [00:09:17] They want to sell their business. One instance, for example, had two offers and you want to know what’s the right price for the business. And as we got into the conversation, it turned out that that he and his wife and their late 50s or early 60s did not have a financial plan. They had no idea how they were going to carry on the quality of life that they’d had for the next 20 years. So they I put them in touch with a financial planner that really helped them begin to look at what role that business and its its income or its financial return, if it were sold, would play in that and that long term financial plan that they really needed to put together. And they ultimately decided neither of those options were right. They needed a few more years to really build that financial plan and be assured of a quality of life that they really wanted and to do the traveling and so on for the next next 20 years of their lives.

Lee Kantor: [00:10:14] Now is that unusual to have a business leader at that stage of their career to just, you know, just think, Oh, I’ll just sell my business and that’s my retirement plan and then just hope it all works out?

Don McCrea: [00:10:28] Well, a piece of it is what you brought up much earlier that they’re so busy that. They haven’t they haven’t really given it much thought. You know, their focus for so many years has been on the business, on the business itself and and ensuring the business is successful. So they haven’t really given a lot of thought to that planning. A number of them do. They do have financial planners. They they really have been focused on building wealth for themselves and their family. But for example, there’s there’s one client that I’m beginning to get engaged with right now that the the business itself is a food truck, but it is a they’ve had that business for 30 years, includes catering business, very successful, located in the middle of downtown San Francisco. These are two young people that came as as kids off the streets in Mexico some number of years ago that now have a very successful business. They own a home of their own, and they own two ranches in the Central Valley, one of which supplies the the meat for the for the catering and and Typekit truck business. And they have no estate plan. Their business, the business is a sole proprietorship. There’s no legal structure there that that protects the business. And there’s there there’s no planning to protect the the considerable assets that they’ve built. And that was early on in the discussion, and the first thing I did was put them in touch and bring a financial planner in and turns out they need someone who’s who speaks Spanish as well. And so we’ve we’ve got the second financial planner involved who’s now working with them to get just the powers of attorney and some initial protection in place so that we can begin to look at how how their son really needs to work through with them to take over the business.

Lee Kantor: [00:12:22] Now in your career, you mentioned that you’ve had a variety of adventures to get to the place you are right now. Is there anything or anybody that has been especially influential in your career path? Or have you had a variety of mentors or kind of leaders that you looked up to throughout the years?

Don McCrea: [00:12:43] Well, that’s that’s a good question. If I had to pick out one that particularly stood out. That’s Peter Drucker and I was a my doctorate is from Claremont Graduate University and what is now known as the Peter Drucker and Masatoshi Graduate School Management. Peter was still teaching at the time I was there doing my coursework. I managed their executive degree program for a year, including the PhD program, so I had some additional outside the classroom interaction with Peter. But the most brilliant I wouldn’t call him exactly a mentor because he wasn’t specifically a mentor to me. But on the other hand, he was fully engaged with his students, and the wisdom was remarkable in every single class. So he’s the he’s the one that stands out. The rest of it was just having lots of experiences of being open to what comes my way and be willing to learn I every position that I took as I move from one to the next. I had not done before. And so it was a matter of of of learning on the job. And for example, when I when I was first moved into a management position in computer industry, I had been a systems design or systems programmer, system designer, et cetera. Director of engineering moved me into a second level management position. I inherited five managers in something like 75 professional employees. I’d never managed people before, so I spent a lot of time in the office after hours with the director of engineering. Really, I learned tremendous amount from him. He’s unfortunately, since passed away at an early age, but he’s probably the best manager I ever had, and it was a tremendous learning experience. So it’s just it’s learning where that was necessary depending upon the upon the position.

Lee Kantor: [00:14:40] Now when you started this practice, at some point you realized early on I would imagine, or at some point that referrals were critically important to your success. How did you kind of come to that conclusion and what do you do to ensure that those referrals come in and that you can reciprocate back to all of those providers over referrals?

Don McCrea: [00:15:01] Well, a piece of it. A piece of it is is when I actually when I first started this business, I was focused on helping family and small businesses get from wherever they were to that transition point, whether it’s 20 or 30 years down the road, very different than the typical business and strategic planning, which at most focuses on maybe three to five years. And it took me, I did a lot of networking. I’m relatively new here in the North San Francisco Bay Area. I’ve been here about 10 years. Now, and so I had to build business relationships. And what I came to to understand fairly quickly is that it’s the problem you indicated they’re so busy with the day to day. They don’t have time to think that far out. But I’ve done some work with Cal State Fullerton, the Family Business Center there and under, and realized that when they got there, they still were going to have a number of issues. And so I began to. I reoriented the focus of the business developments nine stage process consultative process that underlies everything I do and began to develop the relationships, particularly the relationships with estate planners, financial planners, insurance people, business evaluators, business brokers, et cetera. And I was still out building those relationships with the business community and realized that that that’s that’s a one on one process.

Don McCrea: [00:16:29] It’s an educational process. And so there are a few things like speaking before groups. It can be useful, but even there it, it’s what are the right groups and what are their constituents, et cetera. So it was kind of evolved into, well, evolved out of the discussions that I had with the the estate and financial planners I was developing relationships with because that those two fields in particular are especially important to the owner being ready to retire. It’s part of their personal readiness. Preparation is to make sure they have those pieces in place and then as well business attorneys to make sure that the the business structure, the operating agreement, if there’s a partner, the buy sell agreement are all properly designed. Business structures correct is an LLC or an S-Corp or a C Corp, rather than a nowadays a benefit corporation. I love to work with those people because they have a they have a broader mission in life than just building a business. So it really was evolving, evolving into an understanding of where was the where was the greatest need? Who recognized the problem first? And and and then how could I provide support to them with their clients? So I guess that’s a long answer to to your question. It just evolved over time and recognizing what was necessary for success.

Lee Kantor: [00:17:59] But it sounds like you’re working kind of arm in arm with a variety of trusted advisors to really give a holistic counsel to these business owners.

Don McCrea: [00:18:10] That’s correct.

Lee Kantor: [00:18:11] And then do you do you find yourself as kind of. The quarterback of this team, where are you? Kind of a cog in the machine and somebody else is taking lead or varies depending on the situation.

Don McCrea: [00:18:24] I describe myself as like the conductor of the orchestra who plays some of the instruments. So if you if you look at this nine stage process, things like estate planning, making sure there’s been a, let’s say, if it’s a food business, for example, have they done a risk assessment to really ensure that that they’re all of their processes are as as as health wise, safe as they could possibly be? I am sure there aren’t too many insurance brokers, even commercial insurance brokers who do that kind of an assessment other than what insurance do you need? And so it and then for example, with, let’s say they they they need to restructure the the business. From a sole proprietorship to an LLC or escort business, attorney gets involved. Well, all of those people need to be talking to each other. The estate plan, the financial plan, the the succession planning, the business structure, all of those people need to talk to each other. And so my part of my role is overseeing that team and making sure that they’re working with each other. But then when we get into things like succession planning, success or preparation, looking at the the actual operational structure of the business, is it prepared and developing the the exit plan itself? That’s my those are my areas of specialization. My experience over so many years has been business strategy, business planning, but also leadership and employee development, et cetera. So it’s a piece of it is work that I do directly. A piece of it is is work that I have a strong collaboration with the other professionals that are involved. And and you know, these are licensed professionals which have clear areas of expertize. And I’m not going to even begin to try to duplicate that work. But it is important that that they talk to each other and that’s a part of my role.

Lee Kantor: [00:20:30] Now you mentioned that you work with a lot of family businesses. Is there a niche within that that you work like? Do you work as often with, you know, say, professional services where they’re selling kind of the invisible rather than a food truck or manufacturing? When there is stuff and the things are being sold, that’s physical.

Don McCrea: [00:20:50] Well, you know, I’ve had I’ve had the good fortune of working with a tremendous number of businesses I mentioned. I had almost 30 years in the computer industry, but the later part of that, probably maybe the last half of that was managing sales and marketing organizations. Now the company I worked for, we had a significant number of defense and aerospace clients, but we also had had clients in a variety of other businesses. But then I moved into teaching. I taught for Pepperdine University for five years and included it in their executive MBA program, a top business business marketing all of those people in the executive MBA program. We’re working for a huge variety of businesses, and of course, the work we did in class was a tremendous amount of experiential. And then I manage UC Irvine custom exec ed programs for five years and then UCLA’s for five years, as well as their corporate directors program. And again, the custom executive is is a consultative process as a business and business selling process. And it gave me experience with a lot of different kinds of businesses. And then throughout that, I’ve also been doing small business consulting. So to answer your question, no, there’s no particular niche that I specialize in because I’ve worked with so many different businesses and my perspective is the owner of the business is the expert in their field, and they’re the ones who really know their business. And so when we collaborate, that really brings in the business knowledge and expertize and the ability to work with many, many different kinds of businesses with someone who really understands their business, their markets, their clients well.

Lee Kantor: [00:22:39] And if somebody wants to learn more, have a more substantive conversation with you or somebody on your team, is there a website?

Don McCrea: [00:22:45] I do have a website. Your business legacy dot net.

Lee Kantor: [00:22:50] It’s your everything spelled out your business legacy. Dot net. Correct. Good stuff. Well, Don, thank you so much for sharing your story today. You’re doing such important work and we appreciate you.

Don McCrea: [00:23:01] Thankfully, it’s important to me, too. I come from a family business background. My dad formed his automobile dealership and it’s these businesses are close to my heart to see continue, especially as we’re coming out of the COVID pandemic, but also with the number of baby boomers who are retiring tremendous number of those kinds of businesses. I want to see them all survive.

Lee Kantor: [00:23:27] Yeah. And it’s one of those things where they invest so much of their blood, sweat and tears into something you hate for them to kind of screw it up at the finish line when you can. Exactly. You can kind of plan for things a little bit, and they have a much better outcome.

Don McCrea: [00:23:42] Exactly. That’s exactly right. You’re right on target with that.

Lee Kantor: [00:23:45] All right, Don. Thank you again for sharing your story. You’re welcome. All right. This is Lee Kantor. We’ll see, y’all next time on Coach the Coach radio.

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Cody Bolden, Greg Shaddix and Jonathan Peyton

February 7, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

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Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Woodstock, Georgia. It’s time for Cherokee Business Radio. Now here’s your host.

Stone Payton: [00:00:23] Welcome to this very special edition of Cherokee Business RadioX Stone Payton here with you this afternoon. You guys are in for a real treat. Please join me in welcoming to the broadcast Cody Bolden and Greg Shaddix. We are down one. Though conspicuously absent with this trio is Jonathan Peyton. As I understand it, he’s probably down in the Honduras, hanging out with a Harry and or latisha down there with Alma Coffey having a great time. But we’ll get him in the studio sometime soon. Welcome. Welcome, guys.

Cody Bolden: [00:00:56] What’s going on, man?

Stone Payton: [00:00:57] I have been so looking forward to doing this. If there’s anybody out there who listens to this show that doesn’t know who Great Shot and Cody Bolden is, you’re going to know by the time we finish this conversation. But one of the things that makes it really timely to have this conversation. You guys are going to get together along with Jonathan Payton, and you’re putting on a show in Canton. I’ll start with you, Cody. Why? When? Where? Yeah, tell us about that.

Greg Shaddix: [00:01:29] So when February twenty six this year to Saturday, February 26 at seven p.m. at the historic Canton Theater in downtown Canton is the win. The Wise? Because we’re Cherokee County people. I myself live in downtown Canton and it’s such a cool theater and one that really, really cool shows can go on there. So I’ve always wanted to to do a show there and just kind of had the opportunity to do it early this year. So that’s that’s the why in the win and the cause is just because.

Stone Payton: [00:02:02] So I’m not familiar with the theater, but my wife, Holly and I are both going, so color us, they’re we’re really looking forward to it. And we were talking before we went on the air. I think we’re going to make a date night of it, right? Yeah.

Greg Shaddix: [00:02:13] Yeah, and really, that’s kind of what we we want this show to be a lot more than come see live music. It’s Cody and Jonathan and Gregg. We want it to be a come visit downtown can because we we think it’s such a cool community that has so much to offer and we’ve got support locally from some of the restaurants. So we want you to come eat dinner beforehand, hang out, go to the show and then maybe grab drinks afterwards. All right, there.

Stone Payton: [00:02:35] Yeah. So Greg, I won’t ask you why. I’ll ask you why Cody and why Jonathan?

Cody Bolden: [00:02:40] Well, because they ask me, to be honest with you. I mean, big props to both Cody and Lauren Bolden because they’re they’re really behind the scenes doing, especially Lauren. I mean, she even bribed you stone with pie from the pie bar.

Stone Payton: [00:02:57] That’s right.

Cody Bolden: [00:02:58] But I mean, I think first off, I think we’re all real similar as far as our musical styles. We’re different enough, but similar enough in what we’re doing. And I think kind of like to reiterate what Cody said. We’re all Cherokee County, folks. You know, Jonathan and I both live here in Woodstock and Cody’s in Canton. And on top of that, we’ve got this beautiful theater. So let’s let’s make some local homegrown music in it. I think it’ll be a good time.

Stone Payton: [00:03:24] I do, too. Yeah, go ahead.

Greg Shaddix: [00:03:25] Well, it’s really neat because I would say of the three of us, myself and Jonathan and Greg, I’ve got the latest start on music. But what’s what’s needed is one of the first times I ever played out loud was that like a competition event, and Greg was one of the judges at the event. That’s right. So it’s neat to me because when I, you know, when I was when we were putting this show together, the only the not the only two, but the first two that came to mind were Jonathan and Greg. So I’m excited about it. It’s going to be a great show. I’ve said it before and I’ll continue to say it if even if I wasn’t on this bill. This is a show that I would be going to.

Stone Payton: [00:04:00] So do tell us Cody first, and I’m going to come back to you, Greg, because I want to know your story as well. But tell us a little bit about the back story. How did you get into this?

Greg Shaddix: [00:04:07] Yeah. So my wife and I own a pie shop right here in downtown Woodstock. But just before we open that, I’d always I didn’t grow up in a musical household. We never had a guitar sitting around. Both my parents always loved music and they always sang to the radio. But we’ve never really been instrumentally inclined, I guess, would be the easiest way to put it into law and heard me say that enough times, my wife, that she finally bought me a guitar for Christmas. And you know, I did what I think most people do. I played it for five or 10 times and just kind of like, it’s just too much work for what I want to do. And a year went by, and the next year for Christmas, you bought me lessons, so I picked it back up. Wow. And when I picked it back up is right. When they started building my life right here in Woodstock, that shares a parking lot with us at Pye Bar. And I got to know the owners of Mad Life and just music was kind of like present, you know, not not just music, but like the idea that you can make your own music and that’s a thing. You can write your own songs, you can play your own music. And really, that’s kind of what’s always attracted me. Covers are cool and I love other music, but just the idea of like, you can make your own and not coming up in a household like that, it was never really even an idea. And the fact that not only is it not can you do it, but it’s it’s celebrated, especially kind of here in this community as well. A lot of original music is celebrated, so it just kind of stayed on the forefront of my mind and watching Mad Life be built and talking with Mike and Kerry just kind of stayed inspired, so it hadn’t really stopped since then.

Stone Payton: [00:05:42] And I do want to give a shout out to Mad Life. We had Mike in the studio. It’s been a been a little while and you can just his passion and his genuine interest in helping people in the in the entertainment industry get out there and do their thing. I mean, this guy is and he the energy he and Kerry have around. I don’t know how they do it. You run the business and everything like that. So God love them. And then of course, you know, I love the little little shrimp appetizer and I’ll be, well, you know, I’ll go out there all the time and I’ll see you picking it up, right? And I’ll tell you, it is kind of cool because in a community like this, you get to know some people, right? And it is. I got you feel like a big shot when you walk up. And when Greg’s on stage, he’ll give you a little nudge, you know, like, yeah, I know this guy, especially like if I have family or friends in town, you’re like, Oh, stone knows everybody. Yeah.

Greg Shaddix: [00:06:35] Well, after this, he might call you up by name, and

Cody Bolden: [00:06:37] You never know now that you let me on

Stone Payton: [00:06:39] Your show. That’s right. How did you get started, man?

Cody Bolden: [00:06:43] Well, you know what? I grew up and a lot of people in this area, we started in church. That’s how I started. Just like anybody else. And my dad’s a preacher and I started singing in his church. You know, he learned the old hymns and those things. And then one thing leads to another. And kind of like Cody said, one day you’re like, Wait a minute, I can do this too. I can make something rhyme and write down a story and make it rhyme. And it just never stopped. I’ve been doing it ever since, and I’ve always been infatuated with stories and story songs. My heroes are John Prine and people like that that tell stories in their songs. And yeah, it’s just kind of snowballed from there. And now everything I do to some extent is related, whether it’s my own music, actually, these days, it’s less my own music and it’s more I want to. Hey, that was a great song. Let’s do something to let other people hear your song. And yeah, so then we started the podcast and just keeps rolling.

Stone Payton: [00:07:40] Well, I’ve been stalking you on Facebook. You more recently, Cody, because everywhere I go, I hear your name. Okay, so you’re CMO Lauren. She’s doing a great job or whoever.

Greg Shaddix: [00:07:51] Yeah, that’s my manager.

Stone Payton: [00:07:52] So I’ve been stalking you more. I’ve been stalking you for since we moved. Yes, we moved here. And one of the things that I have noticed is a great deal of your effort is in kind of shining the light on other musicians.

Cody Bolden: [00:08:03] Yeah, for sure. For sure. And I mean, even with my podcast The Mockingbird Shameless Plug, but the reason it’s called the Mockingbird is because the Mockingbird, the actual bird itself, it repeats other bird songs, and I find that fascinating. And yeah, I was telling Cody as we were coming in, I was like, Yeah, I met Stone one night. We were over at the Reeves house and I sitting out there picking and he showed up and he stayed the whole time and nobody ever since.

Stone Payton: [00:08:27] I don’t even know what the event was. That’s not why that might have been why I went, but it’s not why I stayed. I stayed because I was listening to Greg.

Cody Bolden: [00:08:34] When back to your point, earlier stone is the fact this town, it is very community based. And the same goes for Canton at the Canton Theater in that area. You know, you can just walk around and stop here and hang out for a minute and then go over here and hang out for a minute. And it is very community oriented. And Cody and I and Jonathan too, even going up right down to all my coffee. I mean, it’s it’s all about this community.

Greg Shaddix: [00:08:57] Well, honestly, what has happened to me, both in Canton and in Woodstock and Woodstock, back on the Elm Street, green, right across from Reformation. I’ve played a couple of shows there with a full band and then in Canton on the street in front of Green Line. They do during first Fridays. They do this thing on the street, but more more than three or four times. I’ve been on a set break and I’d see somebody I know they said, you know, I was like four streets over and I heard that. And I, yeah, I thought that was you, you know, had to come check it out. Yeah, right, exactly. And just that, it’s the support of like, Oh, you hear somebody, you know, playing and then you go and you know, and support that. And that’s that’s kind of the big thing. I think that we’ve got here is is a supportive community.

Stone Payton: [00:09:39] Well, we really do. And I can remember having a conversation with you on a break and you know what you talked about, not you, not your you talked about Jonathan Payton. Oh, really? Which, as it turns out, I knew the guy. I just didn’t make the connection because I had seen him at a young professionals of Woodstock, which I don’t know why they let me go to that meeting. I’m definitely not young, but but I mean, that’s just your spirit. It’s clearly Cody’s spirit. But I think that’s true about a lot of people in Canton, which are Cherokee County. That’s been my experience so far.

Cody Bolden: [00:10:14] Yeah, I know for me, coming up and Cody is probably the same way, too, like especially in music. There was a time where and I. I say this a lot on my show, but the feast and famine mentality, in other words, hey, how did you get in there to get that show and nobody would tell you, right, there’s room for everybody. And I personally, my kind of my ethos or my M.O., if you will, is like, be the person you wish you would have had. Yeah, when you were, I mean, as young as 13, you know, I’ve seen kids like like an Anna Shin holster or mace and embers from the time, literally, they’re 13 to now they’re 18 and they’re out there playing their own shows. And like, I didn’t have that person when I was a kid, you know, or even tell you it was possible.

Greg Shaddix: [00:10:57] Yeah. And I will say to the more, the more that I’ve playing, the more that I’ve grown in playing in the bigger shows I’m getting in, the more I’m playing out of town. Not everywhere is like that. I mean, there are still those places where it is like, No, I worked hard to get this. Why would I give you any leg up? Because that’s going to hurt me, and I know Greg feels the same way, and so does Jonathan. And it’s not. There’s nothing live music out there for everybody, and then everything we’re doing is different. I mean, you could take my song and Greg could sing it, and you wouldn’t know it was even my song because Greg’s going to sing it the way he sings it. Same thing with Jonathan and so on and so forth. And I think that that kind of community just breeds more creativity. Absolutely. You’re not trying to be that. You’re not trying to be whatever that is, whatever selling or whatever else you’re only. It’s it’s supported that you’re being what you want to be and people are going out. So I think it only makes everyone else better in the long run.

Stone Payton: [00:11:51] So how does the whole sales and marketing thing work for a musician? You know, I’ve sold training, consulting, speaking. If I had to sell anything physical, I’d starve to death. Right. But but how does it work in your world?

Greg Shaddix: [00:12:07] I mean, I could I could kick that one off. So for me, at least, my methodology is the product has to be good, and that’s the song. So like, you should be able to me, I think you should be able to play your song with the guitar and it’d be worth singing it, you know, by yourself. And it’d be good. But it starts me with the lyrics in the song and then you kind of build off of that. But just like everything else, it’s hard work. You still have to market it. I mean, you can have a great song, but if no one ever hears it and you want that to be successful, then it doesn’t do you much good. But I think I think all too often, just like in a lot of things, the song itself gets looked past and then you start, you see past that. But I think for me, it always has to start with. The product has to be good to start with.

Cody Bolden: [00:12:52] Yeah, I mean, you’ve got to offer the listener or the consumer however they are. You’ve got to offer them something that they actually want to listen to for sure, whether it’s a story they relate to or, you know, art. It could just be a melody that’s stuck in their head. And then on top of all of that, I mean, it’s just a lot of social media like, I mean, that’s, you know, that’s kind of it today, you know, whether it’s Instagram or Facebook or Twitter or Tik Tok, I mean, you know, you just you just kind of have to dove in and see what sticks. And you know, each one is different for different reasons, and you just got to constantly put your face out there, whether you want to or not.

Greg Shaddix: [00:13:29] Yeah. Well, it’s funny you say that because for me, it is such a weird thing like self-promotion is such a it’s a weird thing. It’s something you really have to get over if you’re, you know, especially like, especially small time. You know, if you’re going, you don’t have somebody that’s promoting all your stuff. You have to promote your own stuff. You know, like if you were selling tires, you’re you’re you’re selling that tire. It’s a lot easier to sell that tire than it is like, look at me. Look what I’m doing. Look how good at I am at it. So it’s really, you know,

Cody Bolden: [00:13:57] Yeah, it does. You’re right. It takes a minute to get over. And that might be the reason why I started promoting other people more than myself. Maybe I don’t

Stone Payton: [00:14:05] Know. But isn’t it interesting or I’m extrapolating from my world? You have a show where you’re spotlighting other people. You spend a lot of your energy holding other people up, and I am willing to wager it’s already starting to come back to you tenfold. Oh, right. Oh, I’m a

Cody Bolden: [00:14:22] Huge I’m a huge believer in that. One thousand percent. Yes, you will definitely get back what you put out there into the world. I’m a huge believer of that. And yeah, yes, you’re there’s no way I can’t even add to that.

Stone Payton: [00:14:36] Yes, it’s true. Just by the way, those of you, you can’t see us. We’re in Studio Cody’s wrestling with his hat and his headphones. I have a product idea. Speaking of sales and marketing, okay, because I’m a hat guy, I have hats in the studio. I intend to, you know, if anybody gives me a hat, I’ll put it in the studio. If they give me two, I’ll put one in the studio and I’ll wear one everywhere. The hat I had on before we got started was one of my clients, Alpha and Omega Automotive. But I’ve got this idea, Cody, is to have a hat that has like this flap. Then you put the headphones and you put the flap over the headphones.

Cody Bolden: [00:15:07] It’s not a bad idea. Yeah, I came up speaking of musicians and trying to help them talking about promoting themselves. This one musician that comes to my open mic every Wednesday, he’s missing one of his legs. I won’t remember the story, but it’s his left leg. I was like, well, I got two ideas for you. Number one, his name is the name of his band is seven feet above. There’s four of them. So do the math. I think it’s a great name. Secondly, secondly, I like, man, you should start an eBay store and all you do is sell left shoes and it’s called Take a left.

Stone Payton: [00:15:43] This guy is creative.

Cody Bolden: [00:15:45] I mean, come on. You can’t tell me that there’s not a whole bunch of people out there in the world that need a left shoe in the same predicament. You know that they’re missing their right.

Greg Shaddix: [00:15:54] Not only that, not only there are, and then he even specializes because it’s got to. It’s going to be his size. So, yeah, yeah,

Cody Bolden: [00:16:01] Yeah, it’s a niche market. I sell 10 and a half

Greg Shaddix: [00:16:05] Laughs

Cody Bolden: [00:16:06] In a variety of shoes. It’s not just one make you know I got you Sunday dress you. I got your converse. You wouldn’t need a sock.

Greg Shaddix: [00:16:14] We could. We could come up with that.

Cody Bolden: [00:16:15] I guarantee

Stone Payton: [00:16:15] You. So once you do start to get some traction like you guys and Jonathan have, do you have some physical, tangible stuff that you sell or you use to promote like the do you do, like the hats and the shirts and the in the bumper stickers? Is that part of the thing?

Greg Shaddix: [00:16:31] It is, yeah. So what I’m finding now, because so like for me personally, for this show, I’m playing everywhere. But Canton leading up to this show, OK? And and just kind of to speak to the business side of it, they can’t. Theater show is a ticketed show. So if I’m out playing, you know, four nights a week for free in Woodstock and downtown Canton, why would somebody pay twenty two to thirty eight dollars to come see me? Right, right? So things like the hats, the T-shirts, the stickers when I’m playing in Anniston, Alabama, this weekend.

Stone Payton: [00:17:05] See, I knew that because I’ve been stalking. Yeah, yeah.

Greg Shaddix: [00:17:07] I’m playing in L.A. now, so I’m getting I’m getting paid for the event, but I’m not quite at the level yet where I’m getting paid enough that it’s paying for everybody. Plus our food plus our gas plus our hotel. Yeah. So the merch really kind of makes up. It’s kind of that supplemental income. So and that’s really, you know, at least from what I can tell a lot of a lot of tours in artist right now, that’s kind of where they’re making up for lack of ticket sales on like a Tuesday night in a town because attendance has been down with, you know, with COVID and everything else. So really, that’s almost a necessary supplemental thing. Yeah, I think right now

Stone Payton: [00:17:44] And it’s doing double duty, right, because now you’re you’re getting promotion for the benefit of that. Right now, you’ve got people in Anniston where and you have a band as well. I do. So we’re in Anniston, you know?

Greg Shaddix: [00:17:57] Well, they’re here. So it’s Cody Bolden on the road. Hands the road. Yeah, OK, OK. Yeah, neat thing. So I met a neat thing about the very the original road hand is Jason Hall, and he plays drums for me and I met him at Pine Bark. He came in and was looking for some extra work. I think really just to fill time, he started washing dishes for us. He already had a full time job. He was just looking for something else. I did not know that I met him at. Yeah, he came in and started washing dishes for us and the like. A few weeks after he started working for us, I played at an open mic at Mad Life Undiscovered event and told him, You know, I was like, you know, because I literally walked next door with my guitar. So he saw me with my guitar. So he came over and watched me, and at the end of he said, Hey, I used to play in a band. If you ever need a drummer, let me know. I said, Well, as a matter of fact, I just took a full band gig in two months and I need a full band so I can do the drummer. Yeah, yes. So he’s been with me ever since, and then the other guys are kind of around between Atlanta and Calhoun area, so they’re all right around here.

Cody Bolden: [00:19:00] Yeah. And then for me, I played with Dallas McGee, where the cosmic cowboys. I mean, technically, if you look us up on Facebook, it’s the cosmic cowboy metaphor company. But we just just call us the cosmic cowboys. And we got speaking of shirts, I got to get it made. I’m hoping I can get it done before the show, but our friend Buddy Finnerty designed this one, and because people always laugh at us because we’ll argue for a little while and then we’ll play a song, and it’s just the dynamic that we have. It’s friendly argument. Nothing, you know, nothing terrible. And but he made us a shirt where both rock em sock em robots with our faces on them and it just says, play a little fight a little on the bottom of it.

Stone Payton: [00:19:37] And I have that point again.

Greg Shaddix: [00:19:40] Actually, I had that

Stone Payton: [00:19:41] Toy to do,

Greg Shaddix: [00:19:44] And I’ll speak for Jonathan to Jonathan is going to be playing with Abigail, and I don’t know if you’ve seen them out live yet, but they have incredible harmonies, so I have to go with his wife. So it’s him and his wife.

Stone Payton: [00:19:54] How cool is that? We got to get him in here because we got to ask him about that dynamic, right?

Greg Shaddix: [00:19:58] Yeah, yeah, yeah. But and you’ll you’ll you’ll see it and hear it when you come to the show, but you’ll feel it too. I mean, there’s just something about them too together. So it’s going to be it’s going to be a great show. I’m looking forward to it. We’ve got support from the local community. As a matter of fact, the the first real open mic I did and I call it real because the first time I played it, my life I. I wasn’t really ready to play yet, but I had been talking with Mike and I knew I knew two songs, three songs at the time, and he was like, Hey, we’re going to be doing this thing, come out and play, and I played it. But then when we moved to downtown Canton Green Lane, Brewer had just started doing an open mic in their space and I could walk down there with my guitar and play like a 30 minute open mic of all original songs. And they’ve kind of been there with me since the start to so they’re on support for this show. They’re literally right across the street from the theater.

Stone Payton: [00:20:54] So maybe that’s for Holly and I have our date night, right? We start there and maybe we start there in in there. We’ll bookend it with Green Line. That’s right.

Cody Bolden: [00:21:00] That’s right. Well, not only that, but you got you got your face on one of their canes.

Greg Shaddix: [00:21:03] I do. Yeah, yeah. So they yeah, they came their first canned beers, Allen Brook Lager, and they they do what they call an auto series, and I think they’ll do. I think they’re continuing to do this as they release canned beer. Yeah, there’s more coming. Yeah, yeah. So it’s got my face on the back. I should have brought you on. I can definitely get you one.

Stone Payton: [00:21:23] We’ll do if you can, but I’m going to be there. I’m going to be. So I’ll just buy. Yeah, probably more than one. That’s all right. But I don’t bring the can. Don’t just pour it into glass, if you can.

Greg Shaddix: [00:21:33] Well, the other night I was there because, like I said, I can walk down there. So for me, that’s my spot to go. I just go down there and Hannah, she works at Green Line and I was I was drinking Allen Brooks and I had two or three, but she was not like collecting the cans. So I was starting this little pyramid, you know, it’s like a pyramid of of my face. So that is a weird. She’s like, I’m going to clear those out before

Cody Bolden: [00:21:59] People start going, I have an issue.

Stone Payton: [00:22:01] Yeah. Now, do you guys? I was going to say, still get nervous because that’s assuming that you ever did. But do you get a little nervous when it gets close to show time and they get in? Somebody denounces you or it’s just your turn to get up? Do you get butterflies?

Cody Bolden: [00:22:19] Yeah, sometimes there was a time, and I’m not kidding. I used to get like I would actually have to. I would get ill right before I went on. Every time, every show nowadays and this nowadays, I actually feel more comfortable up there than I do. Like I’m notorious about and I love talking to people. Don’t get me wrong, but I’m notorious after the show of not wanting to go out and talk and hang out. That’s why I have Dallas, because Dallas would talk to anybody, whether they want him to talk to him or not. He would do it. And I don’t know for me these days, it’s like, I’m actually I’d rather be. It’s almost like a security blanket in a weird way these days. Yeah.

Greg Shaddix: [00:23:04] Oddly, I’ve never really gotten I don’t really get stage fright or I haven’t gotten stage fright. And when I have, it’s in the like unusual spaces. Like it’s not for the big shows. I don’t know. Just kind of block it out in my mind. I don’t really think just, Oh my god, it’s time to do whatever this is.

Cody Bolden: [00:23:21] Well, the small shows are harder.

Greg Shaddix: [00:23:22] Well, and that’s what I was going to say. I’m not like, I don’t get nervous for the big shows where they introduce your name and all this stuff. But like not long ago, I did an open mic out on the MetLife patio. I’m just a Tuesday night. You know, there’s like sometimes eight people there, sometimes 45 people there. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I felt my heart racing during that. But yeah, it’s an odd thing. But now, like for this year, I probably won’t get stage fright. And I think part of it is this particular band that’s playing with me. Mm hmm. They’re all way way better musicians than I am. So I know that if I get up there and I just if I broke a hand, I would be fine because they got your back. They got it.

Stone Payton: [00:24:04] Yeah. So do you have a like a pregame ritual like day of show, will you? I don’t like, eat, eat differently or not do some stuff or do some other stuff. Is there a prep ritual

Cody Bolden: [00:24:16] For something like this? For me, I have to be like real. I need like 30 minutes where it’s just don’t don’t talk to me. Not not, not not in a rude way. Like just let me kind of be for a minute, because a big part of my show is, I mean, we play songs that we wrote and I think they’re good. And I think Dallas songs are really good too. But there’s a lot of banter. We’ll talk a lot. So a lot of times I’m going through my head like figuring out what story am I’m about to tell or which story am I about to make up because you’re not going to know the difference. I can promise

Stone Payton: [00:24:50] You that I’m sure

Greg Shaddix: [00:24:53] Now. I mean, no, not necessarily. And I think that’s part of not doing anything that’s going to make me nervous as I really do anything different other than I like that. I like like that. If if it’s somewhere like this, one is going to be an odd one. This can’t theater show because I got family coming to town and they’re going to be staying at our house. So it’s oh my, you know, and we’re going to have friends in town and it’s just, I like that too. I would if I could just go to a room and sit by myself for like 30 minutes to just bring it here, you know, get it all real. In, but sometimes it’s hard to do on some of those shows, especially playing it like, I mean, I know playing it Smith’s old ball in Atlanta, sometimes with the pre-show there. So because there’s three bands play in, everybody’s kind of sharing the same green room area. It’s really just kind of like chaos. Yeah, yeah. It’s just as much of a show backstage as it is, you know, out front. But no, I mean,

Cody Bolden: [00:25:44] And sometimes shows like that to like the logistics of it. I remember I played a show that made me think of this story. I played a show, its missile bar. This is years ago, and it was I was opening for Corb Lund. Yeah, yeah. But it was just me and a guitar, and there was three bands Corp’s headline in it. And so they put a full band on and its missile bar. Upstairs, there’s a big curtain, right, that closes up the whole stage, so you can’t see the stage until the artist is out there. So they put a full band on and they get done. They did great. They didn’t raise the roof on the place and then the curtain closes and I’m standing out there all by mine.

Greg Shaddix: [00:26:20] You were saying,

Cody Bolden: [00:26:21] Wait

Stone Payton: [00:26:21] A second. I who did this? Whose idea was

Cody Bolden: [00:26:24] This? Yeah. Like, put me on first. Yeah, yeah, please. I’m sandwiched in between two bands. It went and ended up being fine. But it was it was a very supportive crowd. But that is the last time that I can remember literally sitting there like shaking my hands out. My knees are a little knocking because you can hear them out there. It’s a sold out crowd. Oh, and you can hear them out there in this curtain between me and them. Like, this is this is awful.

Greg Shaddix: [00:26:51] Well, stone, and this is for you. You know, just kind of like a kind of like key of like when you do multiple events, you usually want to build the sound. So like in that case, if the headliner was a full band, you’d want the group before them to be a full band or maybe a piece or two less. And then you open with like an acoustic gang. But but if somebody comes out there and they’re just ripping and then you got like a solo acoustic,

Cody Bolden: [00:27:16] But then a bunch of sad

Greg Shaddix: [00:27:17] Stories, you know, the crowd is up here and then we come out and we’re like, Well, you know,

Cody Bolden: [00:27:23] As my friend Roger Brainerd says, you want to hear a fast song about death and dying or a slow song about

Greg Shaddix: [00:27:28] Death and dying, right? So, so you kind of want to build that thing. So it’s kind of like, Yeah,

Cody Bolden: [00:27:33] Yeah, oh man, my

Greg Shaddix: [00:27:34] Knees were knocking. Yeah, yeah, I would have been nervous in that. It was.

Cody Bolden: [00:27:38] It was

Stone Payton: [00:27:38] Terrible. Yeah. So do you find yourselves when you are in that situation and there’s multiple acts that occasionally or maybe more than occasionally, you click with some of them and then after everything, everybody’s gone home and you guys are hanging out and do you find yourself in the back room or a nearby bar and you just like kind of just jam and just hang out? Oh yeah, that happens. Yes, that’s my vision of it. Yeah, like my glorified vision of the lifestyle, right? As we’ll go, you know, we’ll hang out at two o’clock in the morning and just, yeah, that does happen.

Cody Bolden: [00:28:07] Like sometimes to like the craziest stories happen out of those. Another night at Smith’s Bar, I opened up for Ray Wylie Hubbard, and at the time we both had acrylic nails. That’s how we played. Our guitar was our picks, and he was so it’s me and this living Texas country legend, in my opinion, sitting at a booth, eating chicken fingers, telling each other the best way to get to a acrylic nail shop on the road. It was the wildest like I wish to this day that I had that moment recorded, even if it was just for me because you tell that story and feel like, Hey, no, I don’t know if that’s true. No one hundred percent happy just sitting there talking about. They acrylic, nails and guitar, pick over chicken fingers. You know, it was just, yeah, so there are those moments that only I guess the musicians get to share that. Yeah, but almost there, sometimes unbelievable.

Stone Payton: [00:29:02] I’ll bet. Right.

Greg Shaddix: [00:29:04] You know, I was well into the other side of that. Sometimes you get I mean, it’s really nice. I think some of the the guys you think are going to be the coolest aren’t the coolest at all. Yeah. And they won’t give you the time of day, especially if you like the opening. You’re like the the local opening act and it’s a two hour night coming through that you probably have a lot of respect for and you just want to say hello to them. Yeah, that happens too. But there is, there is this and you don’t really understand it till you’re in it. There’s there’s so much downtime involved, like in between soundcheck and the actual show and especially on the road, like if you’re traveling between, that’s kind of I’ve heard people to talk about tours and you get paid to travel. You do the show for fun.

Cody Bolden: [00:29:44] Yeah, you get paid to carry your

Greg Shaddix: [00:29:45] Gear around,

Cody Bolden: [00:29:46] Right? Yeah, for sure. Well, I mean, even with the the the show on February 26 at the Canton Theater, I mean, you know, we’ll we’re going to get there way before anybody waiting

Stone Payton: [00:29:56] For me in Hollywood.

Greg Shaddix: [00:29:57] Yeah, yeah. We’re I mean, we were sound checking. So and also the way you do it in reverse order, how you soundcheck. So the headliner sound checks first. So the person that’s going to be there, the latest two also has to get there the earliest because you do it in reverse order, because that way, when everybody comes out, everything is set to that. So like, we’ll get there. We’re sound checking at three o’clock on that, on that Saturday. Yeah. So there’s just all of that.

Stone Payton: [00:30:20] So when your sound checking, the important stuff is set to the headliner, so you have to kind of adapt or there’s just a way to make sure your stuff’s going to work too without screwing up their

Cody Bolden: [00:30:30] Good Sandman good sound man will have it’ll all be preset for each of us.

Greg Shaddix: [00:30:34] Oh, OK, yeah, yeah. And we do have a good sound man for this one. His name’s Jason Jenkins, but essentially, but it’s like we’ll have. I have a full band, so they’ll have a drum kit and everything. So that drum kit can get out and set up and it stays out there while everyone else is playing. So when we, you know, when we come out, it’s already there. There’s not a whole lot of interchange time. So yeah, it’s in everyone’s best interest that way. It just, you know, sometimes there’s a lot of downtime involved.

Stone Payton: [00:31:01] So I’ll tell you what’s going to be fun for me and I don’t know if it’ll be six months from now or six years from now. But I went to a James Taylor concert last time that he was in town and people kept running him different guitars, and I’m going to really enjoy what I see you guys up there and you’re not moving. People are just bringing you different guitars. I mean, I’ll be like, I knew them when you left

Cody Bolden: [00:31:22] To buy more guitar.

Greg Shaddix: [00:31:23] Yeah, yeah. And I don’t want to break it to you, but I don’t think any of us are James Taylor yet. So we’ll all be playing the same guitar.

Cody Bolden: [00:31:29] And he does play with acrylic nails, does he? He does

Stone Payton: [00:31:32] Really well. And his what do you call it, the not the not the headliner? What do you call the other the warm up or the opener opener? Ok, who’s Jackson Browne? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But and James Taylor was such a class act, though during that set, he came during that set and played in the in the in the background. He was like a background singer for Jackson. I mean, I just thought that was a real class act. Kind of got it. Got a thing to do. All right. So what can we expect when we get to this event? So Holly and I, we didn’t go VIP, but there’s a couple of different levels of tickets. Oh yeah. So we got the early admission. So tell us what we can expect when we get there.

Greg Shaddix: [00:32:16] Yeah, so and I’ll start with, yeah, if there may be one more VIP ticket available. But the way we did it and the way this theater is set up to me, I don’t think there’s really a bad seat and I don’t. We wanted to do it and we didn’t want to like pre choose your seats. So we did three different levels of tickets. So we do a VIP admission and early admission and general admission. So VIP admission gets in the doors a little bit early, actually at five 30, because we’re doing like a little acoustic show with those. So it was something we wanted to offer something a little special for like, you know, because it’s a little it’s a little bit more money for those tickets, but essentially they get in at five 30 and they can choose whatever seats they want in the theater. And then we’re doing a little like 15, 20 minute. We’re all going to play a song, tell a little story about it and then hang out with those guys for just a little bit. And then the next tier down, which would be what I think y’all got, which is early admission that gets you in at six 15. So you only you’ll get to go in and choose whatever seats weren’t available after VIP admission or whatever you know, or whatever they didn’t choose. So you’ll still get to. You’ll still have a pretty good because we didn’t do. We only did a limited amount of VIP tickets that way. It yeah, it wasn’t overfilling. So you still got really good tickets and you’ll get to go in and choose your seats. And then general admission is doors for them or at 6:30, so they’ll come in and choose their seats. What after VIP and in general or an early admission. But honestly, there’s not. No matter what time you get in there, you’re not going to get a bad.

Stone Payton: [00:33:46] Well, that’s what I was. I haven’t seen the venue, but I mean, it’s a fairly intimate venue. Yes, absolutely. But there’s not a bad seat in the House.

Greg Shaddix: [00:33:53] Yeah, there’s one hundred and seventy seats in there. And it’s such a such a big space as far as like what the stage in all is, all the seats are, there’s not a bad spot and you’ll see it. It’s such a cool thing. I mean, it’s

Cody Bolden: [00:34:06] Beautiful, too. I mean, it’s a beautiful theater, and it hasn’t been that long ago that they just went in and completely renovated the whole place. I mean, over the last several years, it’s not been that long. And it’s I mean, it’s top notch. It’s beautiful. Yeah.

Stone Payton: [00:34:19] And so it’s a seven o’clock show.

Greg Shaddix: [00:34:21] Yeah, seven o’clock shows. So depending on what ticket you get, depending on what time the doors are at the latest, it would be 6:30. Greg and Dallas are kicking it off at seven o’clock and then Jonathan Mann will be after them and then we’ll come on after that and in between each one, there’ll be a little intermission break because we’re going to have drinks and stuff there. So Green Line is one of the sponsors because they’re also, yeah, so they’re also offering. So there’ll be beer and wine and they’ll have little snacks. There something else, too? If you wanted to come down early and eat one of the other sponsors is Kel Hospitality. He owns three restaurants in downtown Canton, so that’s Queeny Downtown Kitchen and going coastal. All are great. All the different. Yeah. So for you, you know, like for you, the doors at 6:15, I would get down there around five o’clock, maybe four forty five. Eat dinner at one of those places. Yeah, come to the show, hang out and then go to Green Line afterwards because I’m pretty sure I don’t have anything written on paper. But Green Line is going to offer some some deals if you come in with your ticket, whether it’s half off your first beer or whatever that may be.

Stone Payton: [00:35:27] Yeah, we’ll be there. Yeah, yeah. All right. So you’re bringing your partner in crime?

Cody Bolden: [00:35:32] That’s right. Dallas McGee will be there with me, OK? One hundred percent. Yeah, I’m bringing his cantankerous self.

Stone Payton: [00:35:39] That’s going to be fun. Yeah. So I mean, you’re for both of your passion, your energy for this work. I mean, it just comes through. It’s going to come through over the airways. It definitely comes through sitting in a room with you guys and you’re human. Sometimes you got to run out of gas now and again you got to you got to stall sometimes and and maybe maybe be in a situation where you need to recharge and you need to go somewhere for inspiration or or you need to go somewhere for inspiration to write that next song or to get motivated to. Where do you go for inspiration? I don’t necessarily mean a place, but how do you guys recharge? And for me, it’s I go to the woods. I like to hunt and fish. That’s my church man. That is so for me if I can just walk in the woods, but where do you go to kind of reach? And I’ll ask both Ive and I’ll start with you, Greg.

Cody Bolden: [00:36:30] You know, for the longest time, my favorite place was like chain restaurant bars. And when I say I’m talking about like a Ruby Tuesdays or an outback, especially if they’re in a small town close to an airport, and I’ll tell you why people will come in and they’ll sit next to you and they know for a fact that they’re never going to see you again. And they will tell you the deepest, darkest secrets that they ever have because they want to get it off their chest. And then I turn around, turn it into a song. But I mean, it’s happened. I can’t tell you how many times, but on the flip side of that one hundred percent, you know, I like to throw my kayak in the water and disappear for a few hours without my cell phone and go fishing and just think about things. And that’s a lot where my stuff comes from, too.

Stone Payton: [00:37:15] I am so glad I asked the question. No, that’s it. Is that coming? That’s fantastic.

Greg Shaddix: [00:37:22] Yeah. I mean, mine are situational. So sometimes I put myself in these situations and sometimes I just end up in that situation. But I like I like for a lot of the songs to root from that. But I tell you where I get a lot of like inspiration in terms of things that I wouldn’t necessarily do or things that kind of get just the my ball rolling in my mind is open mic nights because people are coming with their own original ideas and own different stylings of how they do things. And it may take something already may have a lyric, but it gives me a different idea for a melody that I wouldn’t that it wouldn’t necessarily start. And like in an open mic, you know, I think with Greg’s the one he hosts over at my life. I mean, sometimes there’s between eight and 12 different people. So there’s so many different things happen. They’re all playing two or three songs. So you’re getting like this blend of all these different stylings and types. So it kind of just it takes what I may have already had or it kicks off this new idea. So I get a lot of inspiration from open mics.

Cody Bolden: [00:38:23] Yeah. And if you just keep your ears open and just listen, people will tell you things. It may not even be something that seems significant, but the way other people say things sometimes will spark your brain to a way that you would never a turn of a phrase that you would never say. And then you’re off to the races.

Stone Payton: [00:38:43] What you’re describing reminds me of what I think I heard on. On more than one episode where the comedians and cars, where the comedians get together. Jerry Seinfeld and they I mean, they make such a science of just observing. Yeah, right? And they bring that in. That impressed me and it impressed me just how much attention that they put to the craft and how focused like a Jerry Seinfeld will be on how to to articulate the phrase, and he may try that thing on like 13 different ways. Right? Yeah.

Cody Bolden: [00:39:16] And words matter. Like, Yeah, you know, a simple turn of phrase like one word can change an entire song and it can be as simple as a word. It’s like, I don’t know. Instead of using he, there’s another way to say that, you know, I mean, it sounds simple to in some ways, but when you take a what, you basically have a whole page full of words and then you just start throwing every one of them out. That doesn’t have any importance. That’s when you end up with a song, in my opinion.

Greg Shaddix: [00:39:46] Yeah. And you know, to me, I like the idea of crafting a song, too, because once you have that song, especially if it’s a good song and you think about it, you’re probably going to play that song thousands or ten thousand times over you over the lifetime of that song so that that one word you know, it makes. You’re going to say that one word so many times it’s worth it to go ahead and like, you know, chew that down to what you can get

Cody Bolden: [00:40:10] Out of it. And songs grow, too. And I’m sure that you’ve, you know, you write a song and you play it. You may play it for ten years. And then all of a sudden you’re like, Oh, wait a minute that verse. If I said this, it would say what I’m trying to say better. And I wrote the song so I can change the song, you know, and then there’ll be people out there. Well, that’s not how it goes. Yeah, it’s my song. Like, my wife gets so mad at me sometimes because I’ll have a song that you know, I’ve had for years, and she’ll hear me play it and she’s like, I’ll play it. All of a sudden, I’ll make it a waltz. And she like, that is not the way you do that. And I’m like, What it is now or it is for tonight.

Greg Shaddix: [00:40:47] And I think that’s what’s cool about music. And at least from like a songwriter standpoint is, you know, my hope is that I haven’t written my best song yet. So it’s always that like trying to get whatever that is and the same thing, like when you play one, because the way you play a song makes the words meaning different, like the effect of what you do. And so, you know, especially like in storyteller songs like myself and Greg, you know, a hard strum is one thing, and then a palm mute is another thing in certain parts where you really, you know, you really want the the lyrics to come through opposed to the melody of the song. Or you know what you’re saying, there’s very important compared to the rest of the song. So something I’ve I’ve been working on, especially from like a full band standpoint, is song dynamic. So, you know, like everybody’s up here and down here. And I didn’t really listen to a lot of music, podcasts and from like a producer standpoint, you know, if you listen a lot of these old country songs, a lot of the stuff they’re doing is, you know, if they’re if they talk about a waterfall, if you really listen in the background, there’s probably something whether that violins making it sound like water droplets or something, you know that

Stone Payton: [00:41:52] You don’t even necessarily consciously. Yeah. All right. As a layperson, right, it’s really happening.

Greg Shaddix: [00:41:58] Yeah. Yeah, it’s really a neat thing. Yeah. You know what can be done with music?

Stone Payton: [00:42:03] So what about collaborating with with another or several others in putting a song together? I would think that could be it. At the same time, simultaneously very challenging and maybe incredibly rewarding, it might be able to create something marvelous. Have you guys had some experience collaborating on songwriting?

Cody Bolden: [00:42:21] Oh yeah. I mean, a lot of my songs that a lot of people, you know, when I say a lot of people know, but the people, the songs that people know by me that I’ve played for years, a lot of those I wrote with my really good friend Matt Burrell when I lived in Ohio for a time. I’m not from Ohio. As you can tell, by the way,

Stone Payton: [00:42:38] I talk, you’ve adapted. Well, you are.

Cody Bolden: [00:42:42] I am not from there. But yeah, I mean, a lot of those things we wrote together and a lot of things I write on my own or I don’t know about you. Like, sometimes I’ll write some stuff and like, I’ll get stuck and I’ll send it to Cody, or I’ll send it to somebody like Jonathan or just a friend of mine that writes songs and like, Hey, can you? I’m stuck. Like, What? What’s the next thing? And it could be as simple as they like, Hey, what if you went this direction? And that’s all I needed. Like, for some reason, my brain was stuck on it.

Greg Shaddix: [00:43:14] Yeah, I mean, actually up to this point, the only the only person I’ve ever co-written with is my wife, Lauren. She’s also a great writer. And I say, it’s kind of it’s definitely a hard dynamic because a lot of the times I’m coming to it already have the melody and a lot of the lyrics. So I’m already kind of like tied to a lot of that stuff, you know, right? But she also brings a different perspective to things, which I think is needed in a lot of the stuff. So I haven’t co-written many, but I need to work on it, I think. They could only build your lyric integrity like working with others and, you know, being open to changing things

Cody Bolden: [00:43:56] Because you have to have a lot of trust with that person too, because you know, a song, a song can be a very vulnerable thing, depending on what you’re talking about and you’ve got to have you’ve got to trust that person, like, Hey, I’m about to tell you something deep inside of me that I’m trying to get out or trying to handle. Or maybe it’s some kind of therapy. So that person better understand what you’re trying to say to.

Stone Payton: [00:44:21] So you were you were speaking about the I don’t even know the right words for it, but the rise and fall of the peaks and valleys managing through a song. Do you do that with a an entire concert or a set two? Do you plan that out so that you take people up and high fast and slows that that takes some planning to do?

Greg Shaddix: [00:44:40] Yeah, it does. So as a matter of fact, I just finished putting myself this together for arcane theater show. Ok? But yeah, I mean, and I think any any good show or somebody that’s trying to pay attention for the overall show itself, they’ll do that. You know, in terms of, I think different people have different ways I can tell you for me personally what I like to do and what I’ll do, probably for the theater show is as we come in pretty hot and then we work our way down a little slower towards the middle of the set and then we end it, you know, we. So it kind of does. If you’re visually looking at it, it’s here. And then, you know, and then we end out here. So you kind of do this a little bit of a wave. Some people like to do it the other way around. Some people, you know, start off hot and they want to be tear jerking by the end of it or vice versa, or start off really slow and have a gradual increase.

Stone Payton: [00:45:27] But there’s often some design behind it, whatever, for sure. Yes.

Cody Bolden: [00:45:33] And for me, the way I mean, has that been? I’ve been in a band. I was in a band for a while, but these days solo or a duo artist, most of the time and a lot of mine has to do with, Am I going to make you laugh or I’m going to make you cry right now? And like, it’s intentional. Like, Am I going to sing a song about my granddad or am I going to, you know, sing a song about, you know, knocking over a Milwaukee beer truck, you know, because there are songs about both of those things, you know? And and so and part of it for me is you read the crowd like, if they’re laughing a bunch, well, we’ll just we’ll laugh a little bit together. And after, you know, five or 10 minutes, then I’m going to like, Oh, now, so then you got your Kleenexes out and you didn’t see it coming. So like, there’s a dynamic for me personally, like a lot of it has to do, what are you all out here in the seats giving me? And then we’ll go from there. Especially, you know, if you’re kind of back to Cody’s point earlier, if you’re playing a bunch of shows for free, that’s a different thing. But this show February twenty six, like there, everyone in those seats paid money to see us, so I want to give them something that you’re not going to see. If you come see me on a patio on Sunday or somewhere else where it’s just me, I’m going to give you, I’m going to tell you the stories behind the songs. I’m going to talk to you a little bit more. And and quite frankly, you know, Jonathan and Cody may play you more songs. I may talk to you more than I play. These guys may play you 12 13 songs. I might play you six row, but

Greg Shaddix: [00:47:04] You could take that to the bank.

Cody Bolden: [00:47:05] Yeah, yeah, I mean, that’s true. You’re going to be there, Stone, Callum. Yeah, that’s just, you know, one of my heroes has always been Todd Snider, and he had this whole intro and I don’t remember the whole thing, but the last part of it, he’s like, I may go on as much as 18 minutes in between songs, and it’s it’s just part of what I do. And it may be because I’m a preacher’s kid and I’m used to seeing people standing in front of the microphone just talk for a while.

Stone Payton: [00:47:31] All right, so let’s make sure that we leave our listeners with all the information, everything from we definitely want to make sure that everybody has information on this upcoming concert. Yeah, but people are going to hear this a year from now to well beyond the concert. So I want to make sure that they have contact information. I want to make sure they know how to get to your radio show. Yeah. And so they can continue to follow. So whatever you guys think is appropriate in terms of whatever the social media stuff is, you cool kids are doing these days, the Instagram, the website, all that stuff. Let’s let’s start with you, Greg. Lay it out there. Let’s make sure we got it out.

Cody Bolden: [00:48:05] I mean, probably the easiest way to find me is to just go to searching for metaphors, and that’ll take you everywhere. It’ll take you to the all my social media. You can find the Mockingbird. podcast there. Yeah, I mean, that’s probably the easiest thing for me. Just look for searching for metaphors. Spell f0r, spell it all the way out. Not the no.

Greg Shaddix: [00:48:27] And I think Jonathan Patent does Jonathan Peden or Jonathan Patent Music. If you search Jonathan Patent on Google, you’ll find him. Yeah, minus Cody Bolden. So Cody Bolden, you can find all of the other stuff from that. But I think on Instagram, it’s Cody Bolden. I just started a tick tock. I think it’s good. Board music, but yeah, yeah, search for it and you’ll find it any of those names, you’ll kind of if you Google it, you’ll find us. And then for this show, so we’re going to be Saturday, February twenty six in downtown Canton at the historic camp theater show starts at seven o’clock. Tickets are on sale now. I don’t foresee us having tickets at the door. I mean, they’re selling well now. And that’s the hope anyway, is that we can sell out prior. So if you’re listening to this, you can get tickets at my website. Cody CNN.com it’s an Eventbrite as well, so you can like, search the Facebook event, get tickets there.

Stone Payton: [00:49:23] Well, guys, it has been an absolute delight having you in the studio this afternoon, and I’d like to make it maybe a little more of a habit of this. We already get together periodically, get caught up on what you guys are doing, get some stories from the road, get caught up on your shows and do it. So I need you to come on my show too. You got it. We talked about it a away back, too much fun and off air. I’m going to get Jonathan’s phone number because I need him to bring me back some cigars. He’s still down there. He is giving me a call. All right, this is Stone Payton for our guests today, Greg Chadwick’s and Cody Bolden and everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying, we’ll see you next time on Cherokee Business Radio.

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Raul Hernandez Ochoa With Do Good Work

February 7, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

Raul
Austin Business Radio
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RaulRaul Hernandez Ochoa is a business strategist helping entrepreneurs create certainty in their business. He has trained hundreds of entrepreneurs through live seminars, online programs, and private masterminds. His work has helped positively impact the lives of his clients and the teams he’s helped flourish. Productive Profits has helped entrepreneurs not only scale with certainty but make a difference in the marketplace. 

He lives in San Diego and is loving life with his family. When he’s not working and drinking a homemade cold brew coffee, he’s either serving his community and Church, training for a crazy obstacle course race, or simply surfing.

His mission is to help successful entrepreneurs create certainty in their business with simple proven frameworks.

Connect with Raul on Facebook and LinkedIn and follow him on Instagram and Twitter.

What You’ll Learn In This Episode

  • Creating operational excellence in companies
  • The key habits within a company and why do they matter
  • The difference between a habit, a process, a guide, and a policy
  • Create certainty in our businesses
  • Shortening the gap between information and action
  • Leaders to facilitate growth in business
  • Getting an instant pulse of the state of the union of business at any given time

This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix

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Intro: [00:00:02] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for Coach the Coach radio brought to you by the Business RadioX Ambassador Program, the no-cost business development strategy for coaches who want to spend more time serving local business clients and less time selling them. Go to brxambassador.com To learn more. Now here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:33] Lee Kantor here, another episode of Coach the Coach Radio, and this is going to be a fun one today on the show, we have Raul Hernandez with do good work. Welcome.

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:00:42] Hello, Lee.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:44] Well, I’m excited to learn what you’re up to. Tell us a little bit about Do good work. How are you serving, folks?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:00:49] We’re serving them with management and growth consulting for digital consultants to help them grow.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:55] So what’s your backstory? How did you get into this line of work by accident?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:01:00] Actually, so I was helping grow digital firms online, and that led to helping teams double and triple online. And these are not like small growth like multimillion dollar companies. And it led to being able to have a mentor tell me that I should put my my experience into writing, wrote a book. And then from there I went into consulting other firms. Grove helped clients 5x through Emrah if little clients doubled their the revenue in months, and it’s been just a fun ride, helping the digital consultants conquer this new economy.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:33] So now what does the term digital consultant mean?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:01:39] Digital consultants are the ones who are having a lot of fun right now because they are taking their services online and being able either to provide digital services to other business owners and or consulting services to being able to help other businesses and either operations, product or growth that includes marketing.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:57] So what’s a digital consulting product?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:02:02] Digital consulting products could either be, for example, let’s say you are a a service provider. I have a good buddy of mine here that he runs a fractional CFO company, right? They do services. However, a product and a digital product could be. Some of his clients may not be ready for the services. Maybe it is a 12 week curriculum with fractional supports. It could be an actual, just educational product. It could be as simple as an e-book or a digital book. That’s like the lowest tier type of product, but there’s so many ways to be able to digitize and productize services and products. And that’s why taking advantage of that in this new economy is so important.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:43] So is that you feel a missed opportunity for a lot of service providers that are looking at their service as the only thing that they could sell? And you feel that in the right hands, creating and selling some sort of a digital product, whether it be a book or a course or videos or something that just can be delivered digitally can really accelerate and open up a lot of room for growth for organizations.

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:03:10] Yeah. So that’s if we’re looking at the frameworks. I’m a frameworks guy to deliver growth. If we’re looking at the framework, it’s important to understand your product matrix. Everyone likes options. Me when I buy stuff, I like options. When we when I work with with team members and helping them grow, we give options to clients to be able to work with them. Because if you just give one option that you’re telling them that I don’t want to work with you. But if you have multiple options, multiple modalities or different ways to engage with the service or a results because they did the day, people just buy results when you create multiple options that you can get creative and how you deliver results through the different mediums, time, lengths and price points. The the emphasis of a digital good like, if you just make a course and you just put it online, well, it’s that’s nice. It’s a starting point, but we always have to ask the answer. The question who cares? And the answer to that question is extremely important because if your audience, your ideal customer, isn’t able to grab value from that alone and typically the course consumption rates are like 10 percent, it’s how can we deliver a service or a digital good or a product in such a way where the consumption is increased, the value is delivered and results are seen, even if the time frame might be slower because we all know the difference, like if you hire someone to do the job for you, the execution is quicker than if you go through a self study course.

Lee Kantor: [00:04:30] So when you’re helping your clients with their product matrix options, what are kind of some examples of those you mentioned e-book you mentioned, of course, like where does that all fit into this matrix?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:04:41] Yeah. Let me give you a real, real example of someone who currently does like a 12 week program for for their particular niche. I’ll keep the the individuals in the company safe with privacy. But let’s say, for example, you have a 12 or nine week program where you take, let’s say, rank brand people, brand consultants and you help them land more clients or you help them write better proposals or you help them pitch their their products. And you have a 12 week program. You have coaches, you have office hours, you have digital content and then you also have if you one on one calls once a week, depending how you want to structure that. That is just one leg of the option because typically the service providers who haven’t gone the digital route think linearly. We think that we get a client, we serve the client by client as opposed to creating a value chain where you get a client, serve a client from their identify what’s the next best offering or service that they need in their journey. And can I offer that? For example, let’s say you graduate a 12 week program, and from that program you graduate into a larger mastermind or you graduate to the next level program, which is a six week intensive or a 10 week intensive or one on one consulting, et cetera. So it’s really a creative way to solve the problem of linear consulting and service providing to create a three dimensional. And the reason why it’s important to do this, it’s referral rates not only increase, but also you create an internal flywheels, you create a flywheel for yourself, for the business, for creating stability, consistency as well as for your team. And that’s a separate component that we can dove into the the team’s experience and internal churn, which is a real thing.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:27] Now how do you help the folks that say, Look, I’m having a hard enough time writing an e-book, designing one course? How am I going to kind of create all these? In golf courses, intensives like how am I going to execute on all of that and deliver on all that?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:06:45] So the way that I hope clients are just like how we would solve that particular puzzle.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:49] I’m just trying to understand, you know, as you bring up an excellent point on how something could grow, I just want to get a little more clarity around how does the rubber hit the road and how do you really deliver on all that? Because it’s one thing to say OK, create a program, create coaching around. They have one on one calls a typical funnel that a lot of consultants have. But then if you say, OK, you know, we’re going to have one program and then it’s going to spin off a mastermind group and then or it’s going to spin off a six week intensive program from that. How am I delivering all of that, you know, when I’m barely having, you know, I could barely keep track of the 10 clients I have right now?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:07:31] Yeah, that’s such a valid question. So the way that I do this is through productive profits. It’s a cycle that from this is the book that I wrote, but it’s also the real examples of cycles that happen within companies. So I just took observations and real experiences and things that produce results in packaged it into a protocol. It’s a simple protocol. It’s three phases, but it is a cycle. It’s a repeat cycle. Those three phase. I’m going to go through the three phases just to understand to give understanding and clarity. But then the key emphasis is on phase one, because this answers every question that you just asked. So the three phases within a productive profit cycle is clarity. The second phase is evergreen flows. And then the third phase is synchronization under the clarity phase. This is where we really design the business and the growth based on the founder’s personal, professional and team goals. And this is such an important concept because once you understand the end to design, you work backwards. From there into this, you take into consideration the business model that currently exists. We take into consideration the product matrix. If not, we create that and also service deliverables list and also identify current clients and identify the verticals that we’re actually supporting or the categories that we’re serving in our market. From there, it moves into understanding what is the best pricing packages we can offer. What is the positioning set up for the company, the brand in their marketplace? And then the then they get select tactical creating alignment with the team, creating the right team task units.

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:09:14] And then from there, now that you have a good base foundation on clarity what you’re designing, then we move into the second phase called evergreen flows, where you’re creating the core operations of your business. And if we were to look at what are the core operations, it’s identifying the operating KPIs, the key performance indicator, aligning that to the key processes that support and produce that outcome and aligning that to the key people. Or the key softwares that produce those processes that drive those numbers when we do that, this takes into account a lot of the teams, the humans in your team, their their perception, their growth, their development plans, their training, how we actually work to deliver what we say we do. And then on the final leg of the phase is synchronization. And here is where you tie everything together, where you tie the processes, you train the team you support with leadership training, with personal development training and you have consistent monitoring in place and audits, of course, just to make sure that what is built is being executed over time. And results are a combination of that consistency of actions over time. So and that’s why the synchronization phase focuses on the consistency and has parameters to measure over time. So when we do the cycle, rinse and repeat, you know, the first round, it’s it’s a good clarity building a good final foundation. The second round is building on top of that, but once you start spinning that it becomes less of a pull up, a heavy lifting, really because it’s already in motion.

Lee Kantor: [00:10:58] And then you’re not necessarily saying, OK, we’re going to start with these 10 offerings. It might be. Let’s start with one build on that, good at this, be great at this, deliver results and then layer on, you know, then rinse and repeat the whole process with the second one and then just keep layering and layering and layering.

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:11:17] Exactly. And the beauty of it is a lot of founders don’t know where they actually want to take it. Like, I’ll I’ll be on. I had a call with a client that I think we’re over a year now and we’re like, Well, cool. Where do you want to take this? Are you looking to roll up, sell, exit, merge by like, what’s the what’s the endgame? Because a lot of service based businesses are just cash flow businesses. What is the asset that you’re building? I think it’s an important question to ask. If it’s if it’s an asset, as it is, is a software that you’re building internally, if it’s an asset as a business to sell, and that’s why the clarity phase is one overlooked but to the most important, because if you don’t know what you’re building and designing for, then you’re just moving an action over time.

Lee Kantor: [00:12:02] And when did you kind of figure out, Hey, I have something here that can be scaled in this manner?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:12:13] For me personally or like for

Lee Kantor: [00:12:14] You personally, as as you know, you develop this working for somebody else, how did you know that this was something that you could then productize?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:12:25] Oh, yeah, I mean, when I was doing this, I was like in the sex roles and doing that in scaling that, I like it just it was a mentor who identified, Hey, this is unique in a lot of other people need help with it. And it’s that multiplied by repetition.

Lee Kantor: [00:12:40] So just so. But you were doing the work and you didn’t realize it. Somebody had to point it out to you.

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:12:47] I mean, you don’t know how valuable it is to ride a bike until other people tell you that they can’t ride a bike or like we take advantage or for granted things that are come easy to us. It’s all someone else tells us, Hey, this is actually valuable.

Lee Kantor: [00:12:58] Now, how did you figure out this process on your own was a trial and error? Or you were somebody told you to do some of these things and you figured some of them out yourself?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:13:08] Everything that I ever write, everything that I’ve compiled into productive profits, it’s built off two things experience and results. So it’s honestly testing doing it and then logging what works.

Lee Kantor: [00:13:25] Now, do you have any advice for folks out there who are maybe not ready for your services but would like, you know, some of the results that you talk about is there are some low hanging fruit that anybody could do today, some action they could take today that could help them on their way.

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:13:41] Yeah, I mean, so the way that I this is my business philosophy, information is free and it should always be free. I don’t charge for information. It’s transformation that we need skin in the game because if people want to see a result, you’ve got to put skin in the game. If not, you’ll never get a result, ever. So for information, I have everything from productive profits online on my newsletter, on the website, on the blog, the podcast, I drop consistent new, new insights, new things that are working, and this is me compiling all the frameworks and strategies that I’ve either done or see that are working within the teams that I lead anywhere from companies doing eight hundred thousand a year to trying to grow to 50 million plus a year. So I give that away all of my social on the podcast, on the blog and then for if you want to take it to the next step and I understand it, we’re getting tools or frameworks to apply in your business, like the transformation is a shortcuts, not really a shortcut, but the accelerators that would require like a paywall. But everything in information is free online. The book is on Amazon. And it’s also my website, I believe, as well, but that would be the best place to start really and really understanding the clarity phase and then working to build out your core operations.

Lee Kantor: [00:15:00] And for you at this stage in your career, what is the most rewarding part?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:15:07] I had a call on Friday with a gentleman in Florida, his company’s merging, and I share this story because I in this story, you’ll see the light. His company is merging, and he’s they’re doing well, they’re doing three million a year, and we’re looking at some things, but he mentioned to me in part of our conversation about helping helping him grow as like he says, every decision that I make affects about 38 families in my team. You know, the number is irrelevant here, it’s about the rewarding part is being able to be create that spark that certainty to create that confidence in the founder because it doesn’t just start and end with them, it starts with them. But the ripple effects affect their close relationships family, community, their teams, their stakeholders, and that’s the real ripple effect. And that, to me, is why I’ve I do this. That’s a lot of other reasons why behind that. But that, to me, is the main reason why I love just doing this kind of work.

Lee Kantor: [00:16:12] Well, if somebody wants to learn more, have a more substantive conversation with you or somebody on your team, or get a hold of some of those resources, what’s the website?

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:16:21] You could work. I oh, let’s do good work. Oh, and you’ll have every access point there and you can contact me directly as well.

Lee Kantor: [00:16:30] Good stuff. Well, thank you so much for sharing your story today. You’re doing important work and we appreciate you.

Raul Hernandez Ochoa: [00:16:36] Appreciate you. Thank you.

Lee Kantor: [00:16:38] All right, this is Lee Kantor Lusail. Next time on Coach the Coach radio.

Tagged With: Do Good Work, Raul Hernandez

Chris Chammoun With AgTech

February 4, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

Chris Chammoun
Atlanta Business Radio
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Chris ChammounChris Chammoun is the Director of Agricultural Technology (AgTech) at the Georgia Center of Innovation, a division of the Georgia Department of Economic Development (GDEcD). In this role Chammoun supports Georgia based AgTech companies, assist in recruiting AgTech companies to Georgia, and helps foster the innovation ecosystem throughout the Georgia agricultural industry.

Chammoun has served in several roles at GDEcD including Division Director for the Rural Georgia Initiatives and the Director of the Center of Innovation for Agribusiness.

Prior to joining GDEcD, Chammoun served as Director of Public Affairs for the Georgia Cotton Commission. In this role he coordinated the Commission efforts to better communicate with cotton producers and cotton consumers in the areas of research, promotion, and education.

Chammoun is a native of Adel, Georgia and holds a Bachelor of Sciences in Agricultural Economics from the University of Georgia and a Master of Science in Agricultural Economics from Texas A&M University.

What You’ll Learn In This Episode

  • About Georgia Center of Innovation
  • The new AgTech focus area of the Georgia Center of Innovation
  • The growth areas in the Georgia AgTech sector
  • AgTechSummit on March 2, 2022
  • The Georgia Logistics Summit on March 16, 2022

This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix

TRANSCRIPT

Intro: [00:00:04] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for Atlanta Business Radio brought to you by on pay Atlanta’s new standard in payroll. Now here’s your host

Lee Kantor: [00:00:24] Lee Kantor here another episode of Atlanta Business Radio and this is going to be a good one today. On the show, we have Chris Chammoun, who is the director of agricultural technology at the Georgia Center of Innovation, which is a division of the Georgia Department of Economic Development. Welcome, Chris.

Chris Chammoun: [00:00:45] Thanks for having me only.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:46] Well, I’m excited to learn what you’re up to for the listener who isn’t familiar, can you share a little bit about AG tech? What is it and what should we know about it?

Chris Chammoun: [00:00:57] Sure, so it takes just short for AG technology, so most of your listeners may know that the largest industry in Georgia is agriculture, and our department put a focus on AG technology last year. So I’ve been in this role about a year. We’ve always had people focusing on agriculture, but we wanted to focus specifically on AG technology and the AG tech companies. So I am part of the Georgia Center of Innovation, which is a strategic arm of the Georgia Department of Economic Development. And most folks are somewhat familiar in the business community with economic development. Our State Department of Economic Development, we have various different arms of films, as you know, has been really big in the last few years. International trade, they’re hard at work on keeping the Port of Savannah as best as it can be. And probably the most visible division within our department is the Global Commerce Division. So you’ll see the governor make an announcement about a new business coming to Georgia or Georgia, business expanding. And that’s the global commerce in our group, the Georgia Center of Innovation. We’re more on the technical side of economic development. So we have six strategic areas where we work. Aerospace myself and AG tech team that works on energy, I.T., logistics and manufacturing. And we operate statewide. And what we do is primarily work with Georgia companies in those six strategic areas and help them clear the path for innovation. So basically sit down with them, find out what their struggles are and how we can help and how we can help move them forward and then also move that industry forward.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:40] Now you mentioned the importance of agriculture in the Georgia economy, and folks, that’s one of those things that are kind of in the background. There maybe doesn’t get the headlines, but are the unsung heroes of economics of Georgia. Can you talk about this kind of mash up between technology and agriculture? Obviously, technology is huge in Georgia, but maybe in the agricultural industry it’s something that has been going on, but maybe needed a new emphasis.

Chris Chammoun: [00:03:15] Exactly, so agriculture generally worldwide agriculture is seen as somewhat of a technology laggard when we’re talking about hardware and software and what your modern America, what we think of is technology. But if you look at the technology that’s been integrated within agriculture over the years, AG has been very tech savvy. Most of it around equipment machinery. At the Consumer Electronics Show this year, it was announced that John Deere is releasing their autonomous tractor. They’ve actually had that kind of technology since the late 90s when they come out. Several companies came out with GPS technology and it was integrated into the tractor. So yes, technology is constantly being integrated within AG. And if you look at the AG economy in Georgia in any given year, it’s 70 to 80 billion dollars. Well, only about 12 billion of that is 10 to 12 billion in any year is actually generated at the farm. So that’s the actual revenue we got at the farm gate value. So you think about that other 60 billion or so is the agribusiness side of it, and that’s where these technology companies come in. The logistics companies come in the food processors. Atlanta is home to some world renowned food processing companies, beverage companies. All that kind of goes into the agribusiness category. So what’s interesting in AG tech is, as we’re seeing it now, is integration of your existing agribusiness companies implementing that new technology.

Chris Chammoun: [00:04:55] And then we work closely with a lot of these ag tech, not necessarily startups, but kind of established companies that are that are actually selling the hardware that are making the new software. And there’s several around Georgia that are Georgia based, started in Georgia. Some of it is spinoffs of technology. They’re created at UGA or Georgia Tech or one of our other institutions. But it’s it’s an interesting, exciting space. And it really is like you mentioned, it’s that merger of our traditional agribusiness and the cotton, the peanuts, watermelon. People know Georgia for the Peach State, and it’s taking that new technology and just making it more efficient, creating new products within the space. We’ve kind of figured out there’s about there’s four major areas within Georgia AG Tech that we feel like are the growth areas that we’re going to see we’re already seeing and then we’re trying to kind of predict, I guess, the future. And the biggest player so far within this space is integrated precision AG. So precision agriculture is, as I mentioned earlier, autonomous tractors, all the new sensors, soul sensors, all kinds of data that we’re collecting at the farm level in Georgia as a state is really been a leader in that over the years. Some of the university research University of Georgia research in South Georgia has developed some pretty interesting precision ag tools, and we’re just going to continue to build off of that in the in the metro Atlanta area.

Chris Chammoun: [00:06:36] We’ve seen more controlled environment agriculture coming about, and this is kind of the second box that we’re looking at. Controlled environment agriculture is like, for instance, around Atlanta, there’s Calera, which is a large controlled environment AG. There are several small controlled environment eggs, but it’s the greenhouse operations. It’s the warehouse style farms. And this is really driven by the population growth, mainly in Atlanta, but the southeast as a whole. And with that population growth, we’ve seen consumers demanding more locally grown fresh produce. So, you know, years ago, I remember being in a meeting and we kind of joked about controlled environment AG saying, you know, it’d be great if we could have a Georgia grown salad because we don’t grow lettuce or a lot of the things that you would need for a salad only on a year-round basis. They can do that in California, but we’ve never been able to do it in Georgia. But this new technology is really what we’re seeing is the ability now to have that locally grown Georgia grown salad. And and again, it’s all consumer driven. The third of the four boxes is what we call food product innovation and basically through product innovation, is trying to add value to the commodities we grew.

Chris Chammoun: [00:07:51] I mentioned earlier about 10 to 12 billion of our AG economy every year is the revenue generated at the farm. So a lot of those crops are sold in that form that they’re harvested. So other than our road crops. So other than cotton and peanuts and corn and soybeans, if you look at all of our fruits and vegetables. The vast majority of those are sold in a fresh format, so go into the supermarket. Well, the issue that causes is the farmer has to just kind of take whatever price they can get. And there’s been a lot of emphasis on this innovation in the food space and creating adding value to those. So we have a great company and Tifton called CB2 Foods, and they take basically take peanuts and they make this powdered peanut butter. So it actually increases the shelf life of your average peanut butter. We also have some great companies that process peaches and strawberries, make various products like peach jam, strawberry jelly, that kind of thing. And there’s just been a lot of emphasis on this, mainly to help the farmer again create value, add value to that product, increase the shelf life and let the farmer dictate more of the price they would like to receive.

Chris Chammoun: [00:09:12] And the fourth box within the AG Tech space in Georgia is food system technology integration. So this really revolves around our existing large food processors, mainly in the poultry industry. A lot of people don’t realize, but Georgia is the number one poultry growing state. We produce a lot of chicken in any given year we’re about. If we were if Georgia was its own country, we would be the eighth largest poultry producing country. So we produce a lot of poultry. We’re very efficient at it. We export a good bit of it out of the port of Savannah. And a lot of this work has been done at Georgia Tech and University of Georgia over the years to really make this systems more efficient. And now we’re kind of on the, I wouldn’t say the final frontier, but we’re at this new frontier within poultry processing, where machine learning artificial intelligence is being introduced and tested in a way to even even increase the efficiency even more and even maybe remove the human from interacting as much with the food as it’s being processed. So a lot of exciting things going on, a lot of a lot of really neat things in Georgia, and some of these are introduced, you know, technologies introduced from other countries, and it’s just really neat to see the industry continue to grow.

Lee Kantor: [00:10:35] Now, as part of your job kind of being a bridge for like, maybe, say, a startup in Atlanta and then kind of pairing them up with a farmer in South Georgia to give him a chance to beta test an idea to see if this is something that flies and or is part of your job kind of kind of scouring the globe to say, Hey, this is an interesting technology. We have farmers here that might be willing to test this and then kind of mashing them up. So then it can create new jobs and new opportunities of maybe moving some firms to Georgia to kind of explore their idea and see if it is viable.

Chris Chammoun: [00:11:18] Yeah, Leigh, that’s exactly it, I mean, about half of our time is dealing with existing Georgia businesses to who again are trying to innovate, trying to do something different. And it is we don’t have the capacity to deal directly with startups from the beginning. Now, once they are established at DC, that everyone hopefully knows about, DC does a great job with helping the startups some idea to kind of implementation once they’re implemented, once they have a product in the market. We do work with those on really figuring out where their product fits. So again, it could be there are companies. I’ve also scoured the internet looking at companies from out of state and realized that, hey, there’s there’s some application for your product. Maybe it was developed in Silicon Valley and you’re testing it in the, you know, the San Joaquin Valley area of California, which is a major ag area. And then I’ll reach out to them and say, Have you thought about Georgia? So we do some of that and probably half our time is also spent just in this ecosystem building process and just talking with folks at universities and AG tech stretches across computer science, engineering, crop science, entomology and and we really like to think that that our group, the center of innovation, really is helping build and manage that ecosystem. So I spend a lot of time with university professors talking about what they’re what they’re working on, where can that kind of fit in the market? Is there currently companies trying to do this? Is there a way we can collaborate with companies already doing it? And and just really kind of build that ecosystem? And then we we do a lot again.

Chris Chammoun: [00:13:03] The existing company, sometimes its assistance is as simple as they call, and they’re talking about something that I make an introduction with somebody at university. Sometimes it’s connecting them with other businesses. We see that a lot. There’s some if there’s synergies between two business, we’ll do some business introductions. But again, yeah, it’s about building that ecosystem. And we’ve actually in my role, like I said, only about a year old. And we’re putting together March 2nd and tipped in their first ever Georgia AG Tech Summit. So we have a lot of different meetings. Of course, everybody each industry has a lot of meetings in Georgia agriculture. We have some great meetings, already great conferences. Georgia Farm Bureau does a great conference. Agribusiness camp for those are great conference. Each of the different commodity groups cotton, peanuts, corn, they all have their own respective conferences, but we’ve never had any dedicated day directed around AG technology. So on March 2nd and Tifton, we’re going to put together the first summit with industry, academia and government and really discussing where we at, what’s the current state of Georgia AG Tech? What can we be working on in the future? What technologies do we see coming down the road and really help see some collaboration to help spur more collaboration among the universities among our businesses? And then among, you know, folks like us at different state agencies?

Lee Kantor: [00:14:35] So what do you need more of? How can we help?

Chris Chammoun: [00:14:37] Yeah. Again, I think this Georgia AG Tech Summit that we are putting together March 2nd. So if you go to our website, Georgia AG Tech, there’s a banner there. You can learn more about the AG Tech Summit. We’re doing this in collaboration with the Georgia Research Alliance, which is a close partner with our department and the Georgia Research Alliance and us. We’re able to do this so any attendee can can attend free of charge because of the sponsorship we’re able to in collaboration with Georgia Research Alliance. So Georgia, Georgia Tech and Georgia dot org is the main website for our department, so there’s a ton of different information there. But again, go to Georgia Board AG Tech. Read more about our summit. You can also read more about those four major areas that I talked about and feel free to. Anyone can reach out to me if they have a AG tech company in their neighborhood or if they’re an AG tech company and would always willing to support where we can.

Lee Kantor: [00:15:35] Well, Chris, thank you so much for sharing your story today.

Chris Chammoun: [00:15:38] Thanks. It’s been a pleasure.

Lee Kantor: [00:15:39] All right, this Lee Kantor. We’ll sail next time on Atlanta Business Radio.

 

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Richard Huffman With Celebree School

February 4, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

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Brought To You By SeoSamba . . . Comprehensive, High Performing Marketing Solutions For Mature And Emerging Franchise Brands . . . To Supercharge Your Franchise Marketing, Go To seosamba.com.

CelebreeSchool

RichardHuffmanRichard Huffman, CEO and Founder at Celebree School

Richard Huffman started Celebree School in 1994 and over the course of two decades, grew the brand from a single owned preschool into Maryland’s largest, privately held chain of childcare centers.

In 2019, Huffman expanded the Celebree School brand into a franchise model and after just two years, he has been able to award 60 new franchise territories in that time. The franchise brand has already received numerous industry accolades, including the 2021 Fran-Tastic 500 Award by FranServe, and is on track to open to 100 new schools by 2025.

Follow Celebree School on LinkedIn.

What You’ll Learn In This Episode

  • The ideal franchisee
  • The process of becoming a Celebree School franchisee
  • The process of selecting new franchise locations
  • The unique challenges of ECE franchising

This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix

TRANSCRIPT

Intro: [00:00:07] Welcome to Franchise Marketing Radio, brought to you by SeoSamba Comprehensive, high performing marketing solutions for mature and emerging franchise brands to supercharge your franchise marketing. Go to seosamba.com that’s seosamba.com.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:31] Lee Kantor here, another episode of Franchise Marketing Radio, and this is going to be a fun one today on the show, we have Richard Huffman with Celebree School. Welcome, Richard.

Richard Huffman: [00:00:42] Thanks, Lee.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:43] Well, I am excited to learn what you’re up to. Tell us a little bit about celebrity. How are you serving, folks?

Richard Huffman: [00:00:49] So Celebrity School is a preschool services, average celebrity schools about one hundred and fifty students and ranging from infants, toddlers to all the way through school age.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:02] So what’s the back story? How did this come about the the school and the franchise?

Richard Huffman: [00:01:10] Well, the schools came about twenty seven years ago. I was I’m also the founder of Celebrity School. Twenty seven years ago, I was twenty six years old and got my first opportunity to open my first school and opened the first school in nineteen ninety four, then fell in love with it, opened our second location in nineteen ninety six and I knew after that second location, Leigh, that this is what I wanted to dedicate my life to and I’ve been doing it ever since.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:40] So at twenty six, what was kind of the genesis of saying, Hey, I’m going to start a school because most 26 year olds, I don’t think to have that thought pattern.

Richard Huffman: [00:01:50] Well, I was fortunate enough to have parents, my mom and dad who who had a preschool and still have it currently today. So I grew up in watching it from a distance as a child and later as I became a young adult working in it, not as a teacher, but as the as the as the janitor, because my brother and I were only allowed to go there after the business was closed. But then in nineteen ninety four, I was given the opportunity by my parents to start my own school. And I always tell everybody that I believe that I was the first celebrity franchisee and being guided and supported and mentored by my parents.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:35] Now what did you see differently that other people saw about what a preschool or, you know, early education can be, or these child care centers could be that other people maybe didn’t see?

Richard Huffman: [00:02:49] You know, I think from a very young age, I’ve always had the thought process of the philosophy of how do we improve like constant, never ending improvement. And you know, when this industry when I was first brought into this industry or got into the industry, you know, it was, it was it was number one. It was more of a low paying position. I know our school directors were called daycare directors and our and our teachers were called daycare workers. And so I, you know, I set out on a journey to to change that change, that whole perception of of of what these folks do and the meaning behind it. I mean, they have a huge, huge impact on our on our society and helping these little ones prepare to enter into kindergarten. And as we all know, you know, zero through five years old is is a child’s most critical age of of development. So I was excited to be a part of that and change that whole perspective of the industry. And I think Celebra has done an amazing job of doing that throughout the last twenty seven years.

Lee Kantor: [00:03:58] Now did the business have to change in order for it to become a franchise? Because when it’s a family owned business and everybody is kind of there as family members participating, that’s one thing. But then to being something that can be scaled and replicated is a little different. Did you have to make any changes in order to become a franchise?

Richard Huffman: [00:04:20] You know, it’s funny because, you know, I think I think timing is everything, and I think, what’s what’s the old saying? You know, the teacher will appear when the students are ready. And I think there’s, you know, and the opportunity will present itself when the student is ready. So, you know, as over the last twenty six years, you know, we’ve worked very hard, as I mentioned on on process and procedures. And how do we improve, how do we improve the the operational components of of a really well-run school? How do we improve the processes and how we go about hiring teachers and and how do we coach and develop them? And how do we pour into them either, you know, through putting them on individual growth plans and putting them on a skill plan to make them a better teacher and give them the proper resources to be a great four year old teacher and also, you know, put them on a career path. So if they just don’t want to be a four year old teacher, which is fine, they want to grow. How do we put them on a path that will put them in a. Opposition to to grow with inside the organization and just grow as a person and and then how do we improve the brand? So, you know, our top three priorities that’s really celebrities built on is, you know, how do we improve operations, how do we improve our talent and how do we improve our brand? So over the last twenty seven years, we’ve we’ve done that. We’ve done that amazingly. So March of of twenty nineteen know we were thinking, how are we going to expand? We have twenty six schools that we own and operate. We have these amazing process and procedures in place. We have built the incredible team behind us. Maybe it’s time now to share that with others and share with others what I’ve been experiencing for the last twenty seven years and in an industry that I think is second to none in so many ways.

Lee Kantor: [00:06:27] Now the timing of that is interesting because that was the beginning of COVID. So that probably left the mark to, I guess. Can you talk a little bit about how launching during that period of time or expanding during that period of time, how you navigated through those unique challenges and the aftermath that we’re seeing in that in your industry? And just in a lot of industries when it comes to hiring and keeping folks motivated to continue working in the manner that needs to be done in today’s world.

Richard Huffman: [00:07:01] Yeah, it’s it’s it’s interesting because, you know, we say they were some amazing, exciting times that we would never want to do again, right? Because it was it was exciting. It was like, what’s going on? What’s happening? What does this mean? It was. It was. We were probably in our conference room every single hour as as as governors, we’re making decisions that were impacting the business. And how were we going to react to those decisions that that were being made that would affect, possibly affect, affect our business? And in that in those meetings, I was I was wearing two hats, right? I’m the CEO of of twenty six operating schools that I had to keep my porcelain and keep the doors open and keep the enrollments at our teachers and all the above. But on the flip side of that, this celebrate franchising was really was really taking off because during COVID, there was a lot of people, as you know, that were that was sitting home rethinking what the second chapter of their life was going to be like. So as we continue to stabilize the business on the celebrity school side with with teachers and talent and and enrollment, we were also running hard on leads coming in from people that were interested in and owning their own celebrity school. And I think every governor and every single state was really fueling that, that that that consideration for our potential franchisees, because every single governor was talking about the importance of early education and getting these students back into their own learning environment. And everybody was talking about there is no economy if parents cannot put their children in a high quality preschool. So whether our potential franchisees or even our current franchisees today weren’t thinking about this as an opportunity for their family, they surely were now.

Lee Kantor: [00:09:09] So now have you been able to kind of create that persona or identify that ideal franchisee? Is it someone who you’ve been hiring to run schools, you know, in your own kind of empire that you’ve built? Or is the franchisee a different type of a person because they have to also come to the table with, you know, certain financial capabilities?

Richard Huffman: [00:09:34] Yeah, it’s funny because, you know, we’re actually going into our third year right now, so we’ve only been franchised. We’re going to our third year and I believe we just broke the 60 60 franchise award agreements last week with our one of our locations going into Boston, Massachusetts. It’s funny because, you know, they actually have identified themselves, and I can tell you this, it is. It is, folks that, as we mentioned, had a lot of time to sit home and think about what the second chapter looks like. So we’re looking for we are seeing folks like, for example, that would be running an I.T. department, they would be running a financial department. They are. That’s one kind of avatar of our of our typical franchisee. That’s the second side of that or the second. Avatar is those that are in multiple businesses already and are looking to diversify their family portfolio, especially those industries that have been hit the hardest during a pandemic. A lot of the lodging and hospitality businesses, we’re starting to see a lot of families look to us for a celebrity opportunity. But whether you’re whether you are Avatar one or Avatar two, we’ll call them or family one or family two, there’s very common threads here, and they just have bubbled up to the top, which is these are families that want to leave a legacy for their family. They want to make an impact on on their community, and they really have a passion for helping others develop. And that’s really his secret sauce is our ability to take people and we call it we. We grow people big and small, take our franchisees, which are then ultimately responsible for taking our teachers and coaching them and developing them and growing them either in their current position or in a position that they’re looking forward to to graduating to.

Lee Kantor: [00:11:45] So the franchisee doesn’t necessarily have to be a former teacher or somebody who has experience in this niche. Specifically, they they can be just somebody who has historically managed people or been in charge of a territory or an organization.

Richard Huffman: [00:12:05] That’s correct. I love that question because we were actually just featured in last month Entrepreneur Magazine with the myth, some of the myths of of being a celebrate franchisee. And you just mentioned both of them, one that they had to have. They had to be a teacher and or they had to had. Some have some sort of educational background. I can tell you and I tell this everybody. I have no degree in early education, just twenty seven years of experience. I could not run a classroom if my life depended on it. But what I what I’m really, really good at, as as the CEO here at celebrities is helping others and coaching, developing them and putting them on a career path and supporting them along the way. And that’s really the kind of franchisees that we’re looking for, those that are looking to make an impact on their communities, looking to help others and helping them through coaching, developing and elevating them and within the school.

Lee Kantor: [00:13:02] Now are you looking to expand regionally or just anywhere that someone raises their hand and say they’re interested? Is there kind of a strategic growth plan moving forward?

Richard Huffman: [00:13:13] Well, it’s interesting because when we first started out, we really wanted to keep things close to home. So, you know, we are based here in Maryland, so we are. When we first started within the first year, we only wanted to keep it close to a home base. So we started expanding and marketing and making the offer in the neighboring states. Covid had a lot to do with our expansion. Not only I think COVID but but but but politics as people started to move out of certain states. Let’s use New Jersey for an example and move down into the southern states into Florida. We followed them. So that really forced us because of the demand to to expand into the Carolinas, into Florida, and we actually do have a center that’s in development right now in Texas.

Lee Kantor: [00:14:10] So it’s exciting time for you. Is it has the challenge of running a franchise organization. Obviously, it’s a different challenge than, you know, founding a school. But are you getting the same kind of rush when a new franchisee comes on board and is finding success in their market, as you did when you were kind of launching your own schools?

Richard Huffman: [00:14:34] I love that rush because because it is a rush and it’s it’s it’s so it’s so rewarding in so many different ways. Franchising is exactly it’s actually more it’s actually more exciting and more of a rush than I thought it was going to be. I mean, you know what? I was missing on the celebrity school side was the interaction with parents. And when that child, that family comes to do their tour and to enroll like, I just wasn’t a part of that because we have 26 schools and caring for over three thousand children. So, you know, I just I was missing that. But now what I’m able to do is meet every single franchisee that wants to come into the celebrity family and hear their story. And I’m meeting, you know, I always say I have connections now in the Philippines and and Germany and all around the world. Because of these families that have that, we have welcome into the celebrate. Every school family and, you know, seeing that just like just like watching a parent’s face light up, you know, when they when they find the right school for their child to see these franchises faces light up when they found the opportunity that they’d been looking for and helping them create their own destiny. And in most cases, their first time, you know, opening their own business, you know, so you know, for us to have a part in that role and for me to have a part in that role of of helping them accomplish their dreams and their goals. There’s there’s nothing else like it.

Lee Kantor: [00:16:10] Now, if somebody wants to learn more about the opportunity, what’s the website?

Richard Huffman: [00:16:14] Yeah, they just simply go to Celebrex. That’s Kelly Berekum.

Lee Kantor: [00:16:20] And then at that website, will they be also if they’re interested in having children attend the school, is that going to let them know where locations? Is that kind of a universal launching point for folks interested in celebrating?

Richard Huffman: [00:16:32] It is like good stuff.

Lee Kantor: [00:16:34] Well, Richard, thank you so much for sharing your story today. You do doing important work and we appreciate you.

Richard Huffman: [00:16:38] Thank you, sir.

Lee Kantor: [00:16:40] All right, this is Lee Kantor. We’ll see you next time on Franchise Marketing Radio.

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Paul Noble With Verusen

February 4, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

Atlanta Business Radio
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paulnoblePaul Noble, CEO at Verusen

Paul Noble’s passion for entrepreneurship has always shaped his approach for go-to-market strategies and tools, which was the driving force to pursue his dream of launching his own organization to improve the availability of easy-to-use technology for optimizing the supply chain for materials management.

Verusen helps the world’s largest organizations evolve beyond their legacy systems and processes by solving the supply network data complexity that enables true supply chain digital transformation.

Connect with Paul on LinkedIn.

What You’ll Learn In This Episode

  • About Verusen
  • Roadmap to moving forward
  • About Series B

This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix

TRANSCRIPT

Intro: [00:00:04] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for Atlanta Business Radio brought to you by onpay Atlanta’s new standard in payroll. Now here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:24] Lee Kantor here, another episode of Atlanta Business Radio, and this is going to be a fun one today on the show. We have Paul Noble and he is with Verusen. Welcome, Paul.

Paul Noble: [00:00:34] Hi, Lee. Great to be here. Thanks for having me.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:36] Well, I’m excited to kind of get an update about where things are going for VeriSign, but for the folks who aren’t familiar. Can you share a little bit about VeriSign? How are you serving, folks? You know, mission purpose and all that good stuff?

Paul Noble: [00:00:48] Certainly. So we are a supply chain intelligence company based here in Midtown Tech Square, Atlanta, and we help organizations simplify the way they manage their material supply across their global networks. And so what does that mean? We help them reduce the complexity and all the moving parts around data and personas and organizational challenges, and just distill it into one simple software solution that helps them find what we like to call material truth, which is I have what I need, where I need it for the least amount of capital, in the least amount of risk possible. And that’s, you know, a combination of data and human augmentation and a lot of cool technology, but really delivering upon that value. And and obviously in today’s environment, that’s a really important thing for supply chain and global organizations to have now.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:51] Supply chain has been in the news, obviously a lot lately, if not for the greatest of reasons. But can you educate folks about maybe some of why there’s issues there are today and how kind of you foresee this kind of coming to an end and improving?

Paul Noble: [00:02:08] Yeah, yeah. I know everyone’s hoping that things get a lot less chaotic than they have been, but really the problem exists, you know, less and less because, you know, organizations don’t know what they want to do or have a lack of desire of doing these things. But it’s really a lot of legacy systems, legacy processes, dirty and incomplete data that inhibits them from doing what they want to do, whether that’s, you know. Route things logistically, which you’ve been seeing a lot in the news or manage, I need these materials to build my product or produce my product or run the plants. All of these things have traditionally been very the approach to it was very disjointed. So you had, you know, you have to cleanse data and manage data governance data, use an inventory solution, user spend solution, use a procurement solution, use a planning solution. And all of that disk connectivity makes it difficult to really get what you want out of it. And so, you know, we’ve seen this chaos partially because of that and then also partially because we haven’t seen an environment like this. And so when you combine. Planning also historical versus, you know, changing that historically, we have changes that we historically haven’t seen yet. That’s why we kind of have seen this chaos. And so what we do is we essentially help these organizations wrap their arms around it, overcome the data challenges without having to cleanse data and governance data. That’s a unique part of our technology. Let’s eliminate that and let’s bring all the stakeholders into one place and, you know, show them what the data is telling us and provide recommendations on what you should procure, what you should inventory here your biggest risks and allow them to to add more information to the story. And that’s that’s really the power of what we do is driving simplicity, speed and most importantly, sustainability to continue to get better and move forward.

Lee Kantor: [00:04:46] Now, I believe the last time you were on and we discussed Atlanta and kind of the midtown area kind of becoming this supply chain kind of mecca, at least southeast, maybe globally. Has that changed, you know, during this period of time that we’re going through now with the complexity and this kind of global challenges that are happening not just here in the United States, but all across the world?

Paul Noble: [00:05:14] Yeah, I think we’ve you’ve continued, I’ve been having a lot of conversations, not only with customers and in the market and analysts around the continue investment into supply chain technology. I think still very early, you’re going to see a lot more software as a service solutions across the entire supply chain and you’ll see kind of a. A growth of what we saw, you know, 10 years ago as technology transition to the cloud and sales and marketing technologies transition there, and, you know, obviously seeing the things that have happened there over the last 10, 20 years, we’re going to see a lot of that over the next five to 10 years with supply chain and. Deliver, you know, the customer experience that most customers expect, but first supply chain technology as a whole doesn’t deliver, Atlanta remains very focused on. And really, I’m biased. But what we think of or what I would say is kind of like one of, if not the global hub for where a lot of this is taking place. We have some of the biggest, best brands and companies and supply chain companies in the world. We have great academic institution and talent and diversity and the diverse talent pipeline. We’ve got a handful, a great position, you know, a handful of companies, including VeriSign, that have continued to put Atlanta on the map. And then you have the support of the city and the state to make Georgia Atlanta a place that you want to start a company and can get all those things you need to build a great business. So I think the moniker of supply chain city is only continuing to grow and global global presence. Will Atlanta continue to be top of mind for people as it relates to supply chain as well as supply chain technology?

Lee Kantor: [00:07:41] Now you mentioned earlier this period of chaos, and this is a complex industry for high growth, especially technology firms that is gets a lot of folks drooling about the opportunity, especially when you couple that with a bunch of maybe legacy businesses that are ready for kind of systemic change when it comes to updating and leaning into this type of technology solutions. Is that all lined up for you in terms of your announcement of the Series B? Was that some of what gets investors excited about a firm like yours that has kind of a handle on things and it has a solution to help during these kind of complex, chaotic times?

Paul Noble: [00:08:31] Yeah, I think so. I mean, we we were fortunate to have started and I know we’ve had previous conversations with you and the team. A couple of years ago, right before all of the chaos really kicked up doesn’t mean it didn’t exist, but it just wasn’t as heightened. And then obviously, as I mentioned earlier, the traditional systems and processes just didn’t work for the the new environment, especially at the pace that it needed to. So we were in a fortunate position to have already started, you know, recognizing this and building a team and building a technology so that as this happened and the the companies and the the the leaders chief supply chain officer as chief procurement officers were now, you know, good enough was no longer good enough and they needed a solution that could, you know. Work quickly and get things back on track, and also not just be a point solution or a point in time solution, something that could be sustainable, so we were in that unique position where we had already been building to be able to add to the team, which we have significantly. And the last time we spoke, we came off our Series A where we raised $8 million and continued to build on our vision and accelerate that doubled headcount from 12 to 25 to now over 60, and plan to do so again into the next year.

Paul Noble: [00:10:02] And it has captured the attention of not only the media and everyone because everyone feels the effects, but certainly the market and investors and folks that want to where they see opportunity and movement and the way that you can actually change industries by infusing capital, allowing companies like ours to do things quicker. I think that timing is a big part of things, and I think we are in a great position to be able to go out to the market. Have customers supporting us today and clamoring for more support in and across the business. And so we couldn’t be more excited but joint to have scale venture partners join our team and bring their expertize and scaling enterprise software companies and obviously providing capital. But more importantly, continuing to round out the great team. We have to allow us to build our vision faster and support our customers and create more value for our customers.

Lee Kantor: [00:11:18] So what is kind of the future hold? How are you seeing this influx of capital and the opportunity that’s presented itself? What is kind of the roadmap moving forward, at least in the short term?

Paul Noble: [00:11:30] Yeah, yeah. Big, big part of this, you know, was we’re going to continue to do what we’ve been doing and continue to serve our customers where we started, which was on the indirect side of their business. So materials that they needed to run operations and things of that nature. What this and we’re going to continue to hire for that and not take our foot off the gas. What we’re really excited about is throughout the past 12 months, we’ve been asked by our current customers and prospects. And really, the market has been pulling us into simplifying how these organizations manage their raw and direct material that that supply has been kind of thrust into into chaos and uncertainty. And so. With this capital raise, we are going to look to resource and expand our reach into that space, which keeps us focused on materials, but allows us to serve each one of our customers that has that. Manages and purchases both to make their products and run their operations that we can provide the simplest way for them to do that, and so we’re going to utilize over the next year to build out that experience, fill some of the gaps that exist in their current systems and provide obviously, you know, a big part of our platform is deep learning and intelligence. And this combination of data filling data gaps and understanding data and augmenting human experts that know what they want to do, allowing them to do that simply, quickly and sustainably.

Lee Kantor: [00:13:18] Now, has anything changed regarding the type of clients you’re working with, is it are you getting deeper within existing clients? Are you? Are there opportunities developing with new potential partners?

Paul Noble: [00:13:30] Yeah, we are. Great question. We are obviously continuing to expand our value in and across organizations, so we know each of our customers have a global footprint. We typically are starting in North America, but now we are expanding more widely globally with many of them and continuing to deliver more, helping them really manage capital, manage risk, build trust, find that perfect balance, find their material truth. And we’re also that that really is the concept there is. They understand their supply chain. While there are many more than but kind of easy way to put it within their four walls or within their organization, where we’re advancing is that we are also going to build that network out. And so we are going to be investing resources and helping to build supply networks and be able to say, I make a change as a user of a material. Now I can share that with my best suppliers so they know and they can have what I need without me actually having to. Bring it in, house and sit on, sit on the inventory and you start building out these networks. And that’s really the future of supply chain and really harnessing all of the complexity and distilling it down into what really matters. So we’re going to continue to support our customers that way and give them just a broader, broader perspective and broader visibility and action and execution across their supply network.

Lee Kantor: [00:15:14] Well, if somebody wants to learn more, have a more substantive conversation with you or somebody on the team, what’s the website of the best way to reach out to you?

Paul Noble: [00:15:22] Yeah. So we comparison has all the information to get in touch with our team. Or you can reach out to hello at Amazon.com or sales at Amazon.com, and somebody will get back with you very quickly or on social on LinkedIn, as well as the company is. Feel free to reach out to me there, as well as at various and underscore A.I. on all. All the major social channels is a good way, good way to reach out and look, really look forward to connecting with all the listeners out there that are interested to learn more.

Lee Kantor: [00:15:59] And that’s VeriSign VR U.S.A.. Paul, thank you so much for sharing your story today. You’re doing such important work for the city, for your firm. We really appreciate you.

Paul Noble: [00:16:12] Thanks, Leigh. Appreciate the opportunity. Good to talk to you again and look forward to speaking again to.

Lee Kantor: [00:16:18] All right, this is Lee Kantor. We’ll see you next time on Atlanta Business Radio.

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Nancy Steiner With Steiner Coaching Solutions

February 2, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

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NancySteinerNancy Steiner, President at Steiner Coaching Solutions

For 38 years, Nancy Steiner produced nonfiction content for NBC, CBS, HBO, CNN, TBS, PBS, and Bravo. When in 2018, she had a near-death, sudden illness when her colon suddenly ruptured. She was positioned to rethink her life and decided during a 12-week recovery hiatus, that she wanted to immediately impact lives and help people be their best.

She became a master certified coach with a gold standard outfit, IPEC, and today coach clients from all over the world. She coaches a class at the Harvard Business School of budding entrepreneurs and their professors. She creates coaching circles for groups and will work with anyone she believes she can help.

Connect with Nancy on LinkedIn.

What You’ll Learn In This Episode

  • Similarities or crossover over skills between coaching and being a producer
  • Balancing family and work
  • Advice to anyone who wants to professionally pivot at age 60

This transcript is machine transcribed by Sonix

TRANSCRIPT

Intro: [00:00:02] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Atlanta, Georgia. It’s time for Coach the Coach radio brought to you by the Business RadioX Ambassador Program, the no cost business development strategy for coaches who want to spend more time serving local business clients and less time selling them. Go to brxambassador.com To learn more. Now here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:33] Lee Kantor here, another episode of Coach the Coach Radio, and this is going to be a fun one today on the show, we have Nancy Steiner with Steiner coaching solutions. Welcome, Nancy.

Nancy Steiner: [00:00:43] Hi.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:44] Hey. Before we get too far into things, tell us about Steiner coaching solutions. How are you serving, folks?

Nancy Steiner: [00:00:52] Steiner coaching solutions reaches out to all different kinds of people, all different ages. I’m serving people who are pivoting in their lives, changing from one job to another or from one career to another. I’m also coaching at the Harvard Business School. I work with a class of budding entrepreneurs and I coach their professor as well. So that’s really fun because I work with young people there who have amazing ideas, and I coach women’s groups, women mostly who are in the 50 and older category, although I’m about to start a group for women who are in their thirties. Everybody that I coach wants to sort of move themselves forward in their lives. Whatever that means, they want to be the best they can be. They’re either stuck or they’re happy where they are want to do even better. It used to be that coaching was for companies who were feeling that they were struggling or a little lost in their management directions. And now what’s happening in the world of coaching is that people want to be coached, who are doing great and want to be doing even better than great. But there are plenty of people that I work with who are not doing great. So it really runs the gamut. I I do not have a coaching niche against the advice of lots of people. I will coach anyone with whom I feel I have an authentic connection. If I if I feel that I can really help you, then I’ll work with you.

Lee Kantor: [00:02:30] Now, what’s your back story? Have you always been involved in coaching?

Nancy Steiner: [00:02:36] No, no, no, no. I for about 40 years have been making films as a network producer. I created series and one offs for CNN, NBC, PBS, HBO, Bravo, Turner Broadcasting. So I came to coaching in 2018 when I had a life threatening illness sort of forced me to have downtime for 12 weeks. And at that point I had just made fifty two pieces for the Council on Foreign Relations, which is a global think tank. And these were little sort of six minute sort of mini docs that explain global diplomacy to people in over 100 countries. And I was really feeling like I wanted to have an immediate impact on people’s lives because my life had just been immediately impacted by illness and I had no sense of how much more time do I have carp, a carp. And I’ve always been a real people person, and my genius therapist, Mark BANKEX, said to me, You ought to be a coach, Nance. You’ve been a coach forever, so why not get paid for it? So I became a coach and went through 14 months of intensely vigorous training with a gold standard outfit called IPAC, and I got my master certification and put my shingle out in twenty twenty. So I’ve been doing this for two years and it’s been going incredibly well. And I cannot begin to tell you how much I love it. And the last thing I want to say about it is that there actually is connection between coaching and being a producer. And that is that as a producer, I interviewed people from every walk of life imaginable. The most famous, the most powerful, the least famous, the least powerful. But my job was always to get somebody to feel comfortable giving me their story. And so now what I do is I work with people once I know that they’re comfortable and I’m comfortable helping them. I will work with somebody to create the next chapter of their own story.

Lee Kantor: [00:05:05] Well, I’m glad you brought up your background as a producer, somebody who has consumed a lot of television and movies over the years. I’ve always seen producer, an executive producer and all kinds of different producers. Can you educate the listener to what a producer does? It sounds like they do a little of everything, and there’s different kind of producers for different tasks that are involved in a production.

Nancy Steiner: [00:05:29] Lee, that is such a great question. You’re exactly right, producers do whatever their bosses think they want their producers to do, and that can be anything from booking talent, you know, celebrity bookings to shooting those interviews and creating topics for people. Producers do all the stuff that gets great credit and all the stuff that gets the blame. When things go bad, it’s the producers fault when things are wonderful. The producer did it. So as a producer, what I’ve done is I’ve created a lot of content, come up with some ideas, transform those into films and pieces. I’ve also, you know, it really does rain range so, so dramatically from what the assignment is. So as a coordinating producer, you might be responsible for coordinating a series of interviews that are going to be taking place within a series. As a senior producer, you are sort of managing producers below you and guiding the production. And I’ve done all of these things. I’ve been a coordinating producer, a senior producer and executive producer, the whole nine yards. So executive producers largely are responsible for funding and getting the funding put together. If you’re an executive producer for a network like NBC, you’re responsible for the team, you’re the team captain and you don’t have to raise the money because it’s already there. So your job is to really put a staff together and manage the entire operation. Does that help?

Lee Kantor: [00:07:23] Yeah. So it’s more of an operational role rather than maybe the director is in charge of the the elements of the thing that gets on the screen.

Nancy Steiner: [00:07:34] Well, the director in television is very different than the director in a movie. What a director does in a movie is what a producer does in television. So in at least, that’s how it was when I was in television. So it may be different today, but I don’t really think so. A director is really responsible for how everything looks and and sounds and fits in on every major edit in the editing room as it is really in charge for the content in charge of, excuse me, a charge of the content of the production. And a producer is also responsible for creating that content for going out and getting that content and making sure that it’s exactly right.

Lee Kantor: [00:08:20] So now having that background that seems to kind of it’s a natural really evolution to get into coaching because you have to be kind of a generalist and understand the big picture and help something kind of evolve into that finished product that everybody is looking for.

Nancy Steiner: [00:08:39] That’s exactly right. You really have to be able to sort of get the lay of the land, be a quick study of a human being and stay with them so that they can be doing exactly what they want to be doing in their lives. And you have to make sure that they’re making tangible progress with you, that you’re coaching is really working and really penetrating through whatever problems or circumstances their life is creating

Lee Kantor: [00:09:05] Now for you personally. Was it that big of a leap to go from being a producer to a coach? Or it sounds like. There’s a lot of emotional, kind of visceral resonance for you that this is maybe where you should be like, you feel very comfortable in this role, it sounds like.

Nancy Steiner: [00:09:24] I really love it. I can’t say enough great things about it. It’s so amazing for me to have an impact on somebody’s life. Immediately, I can get on the phone with somebody who’s feeling really low and within an hour of working together. When they leave the call, they’ve shifted. There has been an actual palpable shift in their attitude and in their behavior, in their tone and most of all, in their outlook for the next couple of weeks or days. So coaching is so productive and exciting to me because I get the I get the gratification of the audience’s reaction immediately. And that’s really why I went into this because I am a people person and I love hearing people’s stories and to think that I can help them was just like even more amazing to me than producing films about them.

Lee Kantor: [00:10:22] Now you mentioned that it was important to you to get the credential and to go through the training in order to do this at the at a high level, right? Was that something that you were like, OK, if I’m going to really do this, I have to have some sort of foundation or some sort of a system that I can execute so that I make sure that I’m delivering what I want to promise.

Nancy Steiner: [00:10:45] Absolutely, and I had to be. It had to be even. I’ll take it a step further. Lee, it was really an education and nothing short of a coaching education that I got, and I have a toolbox now that I’m very comfortable with and very grateful for. That guides me in every single session that I have. And without those tools and without that education, I would not consider myself a legitimate coach

Lee Kantor: [00:11:10] Because it gave you the framework to have a conversation that can get an outcome that your client wants. Or because I would imagine you have a lot of knowledge, just your your work history and your, you know, human life history that you can have a conversation with someone casually or informally that might, you know, cause a change. But this gives you kind of more tools in order to help the person or move them faster to the outcome.

Nancy Steiner: [00:11:39] That’s exactly right, and it does help you move faster towards the outcome. And unlike other modes of, you know, wellness coaching wants to get you through this process. Not fast, but we don’t want I think we as coaches don’t want clients to feel that they’re in this for the next five years. This is not that kind of situation. Most often, although some people hold on to life, coaches and corporations hold on to coaches for years and years too. But it’s pretty exciting to be able to watch another human being move through their process within a year or so or even less, or maybe a little more, but to see that they are actually getting from A to B where they want to go. And I think that my skills as a producer came into this with a with a sort of organic capacity for listening. But I think that coaching and my coaching education has transformed my listening to another level, and my definitely has transformed my understanding about human beings to another level because there’s nothing that can be more exciting and more invigorating for me. Anyway, then, than engaging with the human being and hearing what their situation is and knowing that I have now learned what empowering questions are to ask them. You know that that I can enable another person to hear themselves talk and just through that come to a deeper understanding of where they want to be going.

Lee Kantor: [00:13:21] Now, is it a challenge for for you as someone who was intimately involved in so many projects to want to inject yourself to help them like and do it yourself, to help them faster so they can get where they want to go? Because, you know, like, Hey, if you do these three things, this thing’s going to work a lot faster. But I got to kind of, you know, kind of nudge you and help you, you know, realize this and coauthor this yourself in order to get the most impact.

Nancy Steiner: [00:13:51] It’s exactly. And it is hard sometimes because I’m a fixer, you know, by nature and being a producer really hammers that home. And so it is sometimes difficult for me to sort of sit back and listen, really, really listen and ask the question that I think is going to bring about the AHA moment instead of just saying, Well, why don’t you just do this right?

Lee Kantor: [00:14:16] It’s right in front of you. Like, like, you see it as clear as day.

Nancy Steiner: [00:14:20] Yeah, but it gives the person absolutely no power, no learning capacity. If I do that and so their needs come first. You know, I put I sublimate my need to fix and I put forward their need to to learn this themselves.

Lee Kantor: [00:14:37] Now is that where the going through the coaching training helped you? Kind of OK, I got to pump the brakes here. I got to let them self discover this, and I can maybe leave some breadcrumbs that helps them. But I got to just, you know, shut up a little bit and let them figure this out.

Nancy Steiner: [00:14:52] Absolutely. That’s a huge change for mainly because normally, you know, with my children, let’s just say, and sometimes even with my spouse, I have been in the past now, you know, a micromanager. And so now it’s the absolute opposite. I hang back, I wait for my children to call me. I don’t call them half as much. I don’t dare butt in to a clients line of thought. Now, you know, occasionally I will say, may I share a response with you? And when I set up the coaching relationship, I will ask the client if you want me to challenge you. Let me know. So that I can, if they want, say now, you know, would you think about this, would you consider thinking about this a different way now and offer that

Lee Kantor: [00:15:51] Now when you were going through your career, was there an opportunity for you to be coached at any point? You mentioned having some counsel? But was there an actual coach at any point in your career or was this kind of a whole brand new world once your counsel mentioned it to you?

Nancy Steiner: [00:16:11] Leigh, I didn’t even know what a life coach was. I thought life coaching was like for people who can’t find other work. So they call themselves life coaches like people who can’t teach gym. You come life coaches. I was completely ignorant and I was wrong about every supposition that I had. So it was a whole new language. When I walked into my coaching education’s first seminar, I went up to the teacher and I said, Listen, I’m a journalist by training. I don’t know if I’m ready to drink the Kool-Aid here. And he looked at me and he said, Huh, well, you’ll figure it out. And he was right. And you know, any any thing I thought, really every single thought I had that first day proved to be wrong. And that’s one of the things that I loved about it because it was fantastic and exciting and the people were marvelous and really interesting and smart and accomplished and really had sort of a drumbeat that was that they were marching to. That was really interesting to me. So coaching is a whole universe that I came to embrace.

Lee Kantor: [00:17:27] Now you mentioned coming into coaching with maybe some bias against it, but you opened your mind to it. How do you help your clients that maybe have that same type of skepticism?

Nancy Steiner: [00:17:40] You know, actually, that’s kind of an easy part of coaching. I find that reframing how people think with them, helping them reframe their thoughts usually is something that people want to do, even when they’re stuck. They know they’re stuck and they want to become unstuck. So through a series of questions that I ask, I can help a person become unstuck and reframe their thinking, you know, and offering offering things to them. Would you be interested in trying this? What would happen if you thought about it this way?

Lee Kantor: [00:18:22] Now, are there what are I mean, I’ve heard the word stuck a lot, there’s now it seems like a lot of books using the word stuck and unstuck in the titles. Are there kind of symptoms or clues that a person might be stuck, but they might not have the self-awareness to know they are stuck?

Nancy Steiner: [00:18:42] Yes, I can give you two biggies procrastination and perfectionism. You know, I can’t finish that because it’s not perfect yet, so I’m going to take another six months and really work on it, and then it’ll be perfect. And then I’ll be done. And then those six months pass by and the person says, Yeah, well, you know, it’s just not right yet. So those are warning signs and perfectionism and procrastination can often do a little dance together. So your perfectionism sort of fuels your procrastination. If that makes sense to you, so those are two warning signs, if you’re procrastinating, you’re just not getting through your to do list the way you should be or you want to be. I don’t believe there are any shoulds, but if you’re just not making the progress that you want to be making, that’s a red flag, right then. And there, you know, the chapter is not written. I’ve thought about it. It’s not written. Or, you know, the desk isn’t cleared. My house isn’t organized. Whatever it is, whatever it is, those are the red flags that you might be stuck. And of course, the number one red flag would be that you feel unmotivated to do anything.

Lee Kantor: [00:19:56] So if you’re getting into that kind of place, sorry, sorry, not a problem. It’s just it’s real life. This is what happens if you’re in a place where your your momentum as may be waned and you’re kind of questioning, should I even be doing this? That’s probably your own evolutionary inside system telling you, Hey, maybe you need help. Or maybe you should reach out to somebody like yourself as a coach to help you through this kind of period because it’s probably not healthy to live in that space for a long period of time.

Nancy Steiner: [00:20:36] That’s right. That’s exactly what being stuck means. It means that you’re living in a place for whatever period of time. You can be stuck for a day, but you can also be stuck for nine months. Whatever it is, if you feel like you’re just not getting to where you want to be, if things aren’t moving the way you want them to move, then you’re then you’re stuck and and life coaching is all about freeing that up for you. It’s like an emancipation that allows you to become what and who you want to be.

Lee Kantor: [00:21:11] Now, have you found that when a person takes the leap and says, OK, you know, I’m stuck because some people might feel like this takes a level of vulnerability and trust in order to enter this type of relationship, they have to say. Some people might perceive it as a weakness that I should be able to figure this out. But when they take that leap and they go through a period of coaching, and I don’t even think it has to be a lot of coaching, but it has a ripple effect not only to themselves if they really embrace it, but it could even go into their personal relationship with their family, with their kids, you know, with their friends because they have this kind of glimmer of what’s possible and they they can’t help but want to share it.

Nancy Steiner: [00:21:56] Exactly, and it does affect every relationship you have in your life. And when I’m doing relationship coaching, it’s amazing to me how people are so vulnerable and and how it does sort of help. Coaching can help you, even if you’re not coming to me for relationship coaching, even if you’re a business person and you want your team to be doing better or for your own results to be more effective, every relationship that you have in your life is help through coaching because you’re learning how to listen and you’re learning how to ask really good questions, and you’re learning how to understand what’s in front of you in ways unimagined.

Lee Kantor: [00:22:41] Now, do you have any kind of action items for somebody that is maybe our age that is saying, You know what, I I am kind of stuck and I there has to be a life out there that maybe is more than what I’m having right now. Is there any advice you could share with someone who is maybe in the second act ish of their life to take the leap? Is there something they could be doing today or tomorrow that’ll give them the strength to take that leap?

Nancy Steiner: [00:23:13] I would say like that every day in your life, you have an opportunity. Every minute of every day. You have the chance to be whomever you want to be, whatever you want to be. And if you can come to an understanding of here’s what I really want to be doing, you can do that. You have the capacity to do that. You just have to propel yourself forward by creating baby steps and following through. It’s really simple. I mean, this is not brain surgery. If somebody is at a point where they want to pivot, they’re at, you know, in their fifties, sixties, seventies, they just don’t know yet what it is. I will work with them to help them figure that out, but they can do a lot of the work themselves to just by thinking it through making lists of What do I want to be doing? What is what do I want three o’clock in the afternoon to feel like? What have I always wanted to do and never done it? So those are ways to begin this process. God, you know, I’ve always wanted to take piano lessons. Why can’t I speak Italian? That would be so fantastic or I’d love to have a career at sixty five, but I don’t really know what that is because I’m sixty five. Well, all of these things are possible. Any of this is possible. You can do these things, I would say to anybody as long as you follow through.

Lee Kantor: [00:24:43] Yeah. And and I agree 100 percent. People get overwhelmed with, well, you know, it’ll take me forever to learn how to speak Italian, but it’s like, Well, you can start and learn one Italian word today. And if you do one word a day, you know you’ll have 365 words at the end of the year, like it can be manageable if you break it down into the the tiniest steps.

Nancy Steiner: [00:25:07] That’s exactly right. You know, so many times people are looking for magic bullets, but just tell me and I’ll do it. Well, it’s really about you. It’s how much do you want to do this? If this is really important to you, you’ll do it because you can

Lee Kantor: [00:25:24] Write, I’m a big believer of those little baby steps. Compounding over time gives you a bigger result over time. But it’s not like you said a magic bullet that you just kind of wave a magic wand and then you’re there at the end of the journey. The journey is the the important part. The the outcome really isn’t. It’s the journey. Yeah.

Nancy Steiner: [00:25:45] I mean, in my own experience. It would have been very easy to give up on the coaching education process. It’s pretty damn hard with IPAC, you have to write several papers that are like seventy five pages, you have to be coached by groups, you have to coach groups, you have a mentor, a mentor coach who’s, you know, testing your coaching live during sessions. It’s grueling. But once you make a commitment to something that you really believe in, you can follow through. It’s really that simple.

Lee Kantor: [00:26:20] Well, it’s a lot simpler when you have somebody by your side, if somebody wants to learn more about your practice, is there a website?

Nancy Steiner: [00:26:27] Absolutely. And I and I would encourage people to go there. I’m happy to do complimentary sessions and begin there. My website is Steinar Stinney coaching solutions, Steiner coaching solutions. Well, Nancy

Lee Kantor: [00:26:45] Nancy, thank you so much for sharing your story today. You’re doing important work and we appreciate you.

Nancy Steiner: [00:26:50] We thank you so much for finding me, and I really love talking to you. So thanks so much for this.

Lee Kantor: [00:26:57] All right, this is Lee Kantor. We’ll see you next time on Coach the Coach radio.

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Kendall Jones With MUST Ministries

February 2, 2022 by Jacob Lapera

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KendalljonesKendall Jones, Community Liaison for MUST Ministries in Cherokee County, has been with MUST Ministries since May of 2010, having served previously as Summer Lunch Coordinator for Cherokee Co., Client Intake/Volunteer Coordinator and Program Director.

Prior to his employment with MUST, Mr. Jones served as a high school/middle school band director and as a church music director. Mr. Jones has lived in Cherokee Co. for 35 years and is a member of Canton First United Methodist Church.

He currently serves as the Chairman for the Canton Housing Authority Board, Cherokee FOCUS board member, Homeless Coalition of Cherokee Co. board member, EFSP Local Board member, Accountability Court Steering Committee member and Homeless Solutions Task Force member. He is married to Carol Jones and has two married sons and four grandchildren.

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Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX Studios in Woodstock, Georgia. It’s time for Cherokee Business Radio. Now here’s your host.

Stone Payton: [00:00:23] Well, welcome to Cherokee Business Radio and the first the inaugural the one right out of the box of our Cherokee CARES series. And I cannot think of a better way to kick this thing off than welcoming to the broadcast community liaison for Cherokee with must ministries. Mr. Kendall Jones. Good morning, sir.

Kendall Jones: [00:00:45] Good morning,

Stone Payton: [00:00:46] I’m quite sincere in that I can’t think of a better way to kick this series off than to have a conversation with you. You and I have actually had a chance to visit on a couple of occasions because we’ve done a couple of things connected to to your work and you are you really are a liaison. You’re you are in the business community, in the community, in general, you. You must love the work. But before we dove into any of the specifics, can you just give our listeners a bit of a primer like an overview mission purpose of most ministries?

Kendall Jones: [00:01:24] Sure. The the mission statement for us is serving our neighbors in the transforming lives and communities in response to Christ call. So the idea is to provide services and provide hope. But it’s also transformation. You know, if somebody comes in and gets food and they leave and that’s all we’ve done for them, we haven’t made a lasting difference. So we’ve discovered things like food and clothing are just a symptom of a more underlying cause. And so our hope is to get to the underlying cause so that when people leave our services, they are in a different place than when they came in.

Stone Payton: [00:01:55] So this this acronym, must I usually see it, maybe I always see it in all caps, is it? Is that the right word acronym? Does it stand for something it does?

Kendall Jones: [00:02:04] Well, that’s that’s one of my trivia questions when I’m out there speaking publicly. Does anybody know? And about one person every once in a while knows, you know, must started 50 years ago. And so it started out as Methodist United for Service and Training because it started out in the Methodist Church down in Cobb County. Now, over the years, we, you know, we diversified our partners. We have a lot more people helping us and working together. So now it stands for ministries, united for service and training.

Stone Payton: [00:02:27] That was clever. That was good. That was a good shift. It was

Kendall Jones: [00:02:29] Worked out.

Stone Payton: [00:02:31] So how does one find themselves in this role? Tell us a little bit about your back story, man.

Kendall Jones: [00:02:38] Well, it’s funny. I’ve been with us for 11 years, and so I’m in my fifth position with must tell people I’m either moving up the organization or can’t hold a steady job. So that’s kind of the story with must. But I actually started out as a middle school band director and my degrees are music, and so did that for 18 years and was doing church music the whole time I was doing that. And then I went 12 years. I was a full time musician, music at a church, and then I had opportunity to go to the must 11 years ago. And so I started out doing the summer lunch coordinator. That’s a program when I get a chance to talk about later. But then the volunteer coordinator position came up and I said, Well, what qualifications do I have? I’m not in social services. I have a degree in social service, but I look back, you know, for 18 years, teaching banned them for 12 years to in church choirs here, one of those people to volunteer. Yeah. And so I had 30 years of working with volunteers. And so, you know, the Lord came prepared from that role, you know, even though I didn’t have any training in it. And then, you know, moved from volunteer coordinator, up to program director, ran our Cherokee facility for a while and then a couple of years ago, moved to the community liaison. So it’s like I say, I do love what I do as as my my kids used to say, Dad, do you have to talk to everybody?

Stone Payton: [00:03:44] But you can’t go to the grocery store or the restaurant without somebody stopping you, right? You’re that guy.

Kendall Jones: [00:03:48] Exactly. And that guy. So but that’s the joy about it, you know, because being the grocery store and connect somebody to a need or a volunteer opportunity, whatever. That’s that’s what you hope to be able to do.

Stone Payton: [00:04:01] So you guys have I saw this, I saw this word in on Facebook, and I think I’m using it properly. A plethora, a whole bunch of programs, things, services, and I don’t expect you to list all of them. But can you share, you know, a few of them just to give us some context for the depth and breadth of the work?

Kendall Jones: [00:04:20] Just to make the list, we do, you know, food, clothing, shelter, financial assistance, employment assistance, health care and transportation. Wow. And so just give you an example, you know, people know that much does food and clothes, and we do so for example, food, you know, fiscal year twenty one, we distributed 2.7 million pounds of food. And so, you know, each day we’re distributing three point three tons of food a day and Cherokee that relates to we give out about a ton and a half a week at our Cherokee office. And so, you know, people say food and know it. But the volume of that and so clothing, you know, like our Cherokee office, will give out about 7000 articles of clothing a month. But in addition to that, we have sheets and we have towels and wash clothes and all those things that also go along that are so expensive that people can’t afford to get. So there’s so much more to it than the shelter. We actually have seven different shelter programs. You know anything from an emergency shelter for people who are coming in off the street. We have what’s called a permanent, supportive housing program for people who’ve been chronically homeless because of a disability.

Kendall Jones: [00:05:23] We actually own property in Cherokee. We own two duplexes and four townhomes. And then we also lease another 14 years or so. We got 40 people in that program and then the Emergency Rental Assistance Program. We heard about that from the federal government. You know, we’ve distribute over $5 million and help thousands of people avoid being evicted. And so there’s just, you know, for each thing we do when I’m out in public, people invariably say, Wow, I didn’t know, must did that. So that’s that’s really the cool part is because we know what the basics are. But then it just I think the thing that I like about us is that when they see a need, they figure out a way to meet it. You know, in Cherokee, we didn’t have a housing program five years ago when I was program director. You know, like if somebody came in and was homeless, we said, well, must have a shelter. Twenty two hours away, start walking. That’s that was the only option we could offer them. Yeah. And so now we’ve got a housing program. We’ve got a motel voucher program where people can we can stay in the motel for up to 30 days while they work with the case manager who digs into permanent housing.

Kendall Jones: [00:06:22] We’ve got a bridge program that people can need if they need more than 30 days to get stable. They can be in an apartment for up to 90 days. We can send people down to our shelter in Marietta. We just, you know, we have options because while they’ve always said is, I don’t want to sit across the table from a client who’s in need and say, I got nothing for you. So most says, OK, we don’t have this. How can we fix this? You know, transportation is a huge issue in Cherokee County. Oh, yeah. So, you know, we’ve got Uber cards and gas cards and bus passes. And so we even have we even have money now for. I’m in the area where if somebody gets a job interview, we can transport them to the job interview, and if they get the job, we can pay their transportation up to two weeks until they get their first paycheck and then can start paying for transportation themselves. Because why have somebody not be able to take a job so they can have employment because they can’t get their?

Stone Payton: [00:07:11] The logistics, it’s tough for me to even wrap my mind around the logistics, the leadership, the organization, the the discipline and rigor that must be required to pull this off consistently in any situation, let alone with and through volunteers. Surely leading volunteers is a different animal than leading someone who gets a paycheck. A. Is that accurate and b, can you speak to that a little bit?

Kendall Jones: [00:07:41] It is accurate. I mean, what amazes me is before the pandemic, must had about 17000 volunteers every year. I don’t know what the number is now, but we’ve had a lot of, you know, for our day services, you know, we’re open 10 to two during the day. And for that, you know, we have mostly retirees because that’s the people who are available during that time frame. And so we depend on those volunteers. We’re very much a volunteer driven organization. We couldn’t do what we do without our volunteers and and they. But then you have, you know, with if they have to be out, you can’t say, I’m going to dock your pay, right? Right. God bless you. Thank you. My philosophy always and when I was volunteer coordinator was I just thanked him for the time. They would apologize and say, I’m so sorry. I came here and said, I’m just thankful for the time you are here and you kind of feel like the little Dutch boy, you know, plug in the holes of the night. Yeah, right, right. Ok. We think we have this covered. And but then then you have we would have people, we’d have utility infielder, so to speak. You know, we have people who we could call them and say, Hey, we have a hole in the in the food pantry that can come in. So you kind of build up this network of of on call people so that when people have to be out, you can you can plug them in.

Stone Payton: [00:08:49] So I can tell I can see in your eyes, our listeners can hear it in your voice. You clearly have a passion for this, for this mission and thoroughly enjoy the work. What are some of the things that you find the most rewarding?

Kendall Jones: [00:09:03] You know, I’m in a role now where I’m in a different setting, but especially when I was programing director and I was the person at that time. We didn’t have a case manager for housing, so I was the case manager. And so I sat across the desk every day from people that were in need and to be able to see, you know, how people walk in and you talk about seeing in your eyes, you see the hopelessness in somebody’s eyes when they walk in and then to see them walk out with hope. There’s nothing better than that to see that they walked out and, you know, are all their problems solved in 30 minutes? No. But do they can they see a path now? Yes. And that’s rewarding is to know that for that one person, you know, sometimes the thing that you do for them, it might not even be the food or clothing. It’s just you actually listen to them. Yeah. And you let them tell their story and somebody actually cared about them because they don’t have that in their life very much. And so there’s there’s ways to you’ve made a difference in somebody’s life, whether they might not walk out into and they have a job, they have an apartment, they have a car, they’re ready to roll. But at least they can see that maybe there’s a glimmer of a possibility that they can get there.

Stone Payton: [00:10:09] Yeah, that does have to feel really good. Well, I can tell you from my own experience, 15 plus years now being part of the Business RadioX network, our tribe, the folks who are attracted to our work, they’re very relationship oriented. They’re a little quicker to invest in community. They are more if there is a profile of the giver, someone to, you know, to try to help their fellow person. Our tribe that that really does describe them. What? I’m not sure many of us and I feel proud to count myself as part of that tribe. What? I’m not sure that we clearly understand or remember or maybe haven’t even thought of is and we talked about this a little bit before we came on air the genuine economic benefit of social services. Talk about that a little bit.

Kendall Jones: [00:11:01] Oh, don’t turn me loose now. Well, the first thing is like, I talked about our employment services department. Obviously, we’re trying to help people find jobs or a lot of times trying to help people find better jobs because, you know, they may be making the wage, but it’s not a living wage. Mm hmm. So like in the last year, you know, most helped about three hundred and sixty people find employment, either, you know, initial employment or better employment. That translated to eight point eight million dollars in wages back in the community. And so those people are now paying taxes. You know, they are going to the grocery store and buying things. They’re going to Walmart and buying things. They’re, you know, they are contributing to the economy, right? Simply because we were able to rather than the service of finding a job. And then the bigger picture and like, say, this is a conversation I’m having out in the community a lot. There’s about, you know, we have an affordable housing issue in our county, in every county, in the United States. I’m connected to a lot of, you know, websites and webinars and like that. And so we hear the same thing. You know, just give you an example, you know, the four people who are at 30 percent of army, which is an average median income. Ok, so that’s about twenty five thousand Cherokee County for every 100 households at that, that income level. There’s only twenty nine available and affordable units of housing. And seventy seven percent of those people are severely cost burden, where they’re paying more than 50 percent of their income towards housing. Even when you get up to 40 to 60 percent of FEMA, which you think, well, that’s a pretty good wage, you know, you know, you got your admins and you got your ready, you know, radiology techs and you guys, I

Stone Payton: [00:12:30] Thought, you’re going to say, radio host.

Kendall Jones: [00:12:33] No, no, you’re 110 percent. I am, I’m sure. But even at that, there’s only 55 available on affordable units. So. So what happens is people end up going and living in other counties. I was telling the business owner last week, and a lot of their employees are going up to Pickens because they can only they can’t afford to live in Cherokee County. But what happens is, you know, as they’re driving to work 30 minutes to Cherokee to go to the job, they’re passing the same sort of business in Pickens. It’s 10 minutes away from their house. Right. And so also now you know why? Why? Why am I driving 30 minutes to Cherokee when I can go ten minutes and work in Pickens? And so, you know, there’s you know, you have people moving outside of the county and employers having a hard time finding people to work. But the bigger picture is, you know, you hear the term affordable housing sometimes and people sometimes have a buzz word about that. They they see they see the projects down in Atlanta. But the affordable housing is just a place that people can afford to live. And so, you know, the state of Rhode Island, for example, did a did an investment into affordable housing. They built $50 million in the building houses that people could afford so they could live near their work or what they didn’t anticipate generate $800 million worth of economic activity.

Stone Payton: [00:13:41] Talk about your ROIC.

Kendall Jones: [00:13:43] Yeah, sixteen to one. Wow. So, you know, as part of that, that generated six thousand one hundred jobs and about three hundred million of income back into the economy. So, you know, it’s not an economic drain. Some people think affordable housing. All that’s going to take my property values is going to, you know, it’s going to be a drain on services, but it’s actually is actually not. It actually enhances because people can afford to live and work in the community, you know, live in the community where they can work.

Stone Payton: [00:14:10] So walk us through, if you would, a day in the life of Kendall Jones. What is your day, your week, your month look like?

Kendall Jones: [00:14:19] Well, that’s the thing I love about it is that it’s different every day. In fact, you know, even when I was program director, I would say, you know, I’ll have a scheduler, you know, for the day. But then I have what I call the Ministry of Interruptions. You know, I’ve got my schedule, which is which is awesome because, you know, the other way of doing that is divine appointments, you know? You know, for example, I’m a, you know, I’ve got involved in the Chamber of Commerce. I go to a lot of Chamber of Commerce events because of networking. I am on four boards and two steering committees and so connected in that way. And so I’ve got meetings for that. A lot of times it’s just, you know, but then the networking like, I went to a networking event for the chamber last week and there was at the day care center, a new day care center. Well, they were so excited that I was there. And, you know, they say, Well, how how can we partner, you know, they might, because child care obviously is a great need for people that we serve. And you’ve got a single mom trying to get a job.

Kendall Jones: [00:15:17] How is she going to able to work without talk here? And so we had a conversation about what that might look like, how we might work together. So it just varies from day to day. But then while I’m out there, you know, sometimes it’s funny. When I was program director, I told you, you know, as case manager for a lot of people and said, I still get those emails from the people. We have new case managers. We actually have three case managers now, and they they take care of our housing, our financial assistance. But the clients will reach out to me. And so I will still try to connect them. And so it’s just never changing. And some people say, Hey, I’d like to do something from us or do you know about the resource for this? Or, you know, the greatest joy that I have now is to be in a group. And I hear a need. I say, Hey, I just talked to somebody that might be fit, that need. And so, you know, to quote my my friend Laura Mix, and I’m connecting the dots all the time.

Stone Payton: [00:16:05] Well, I got to tell you those of you in the listening audience. Kendall Jones is the epitome. He is the paragon of virtue. He is the picture in the dictionary. When you talk about connecting people, you are that guy for the whole county. I mean, you are.

Kendall Jones: [00:16:19] Well, it’s a role that it’s funny. You know, people will say, I’ve done a lot of research and study in the area of housing and affordable housing and spent a lot of time talking to county officials and city officials and all that. So it’s funny in some of our groups. Let’s say you’re the you’re the expert on housing. I say I’m not an expert. You know, I told you my music background. I tell people, I’m just a trumpet player trying to help people. I mean, I’m an expert, but

Stone Payton: [00:16:42] I have no one,

Kendall Jones: [00:16:43] No more, exactly. But I have a passion for it because I’ve sat across the desk from those people who who need it. And, you know, I can’t just sit there and go to bed at night, you know, every time I lay my head down at night. And these days, when it’s 20 degrees, I know somebody out there who’s sleeping in it. Yeah. And so, you know, that motivates me to do whatever I can do to connect people. And the cool part is, is that what Musk does a lot of time is be the hands and feet for people. They they want to do something for people to help, but they’re not quite sure how to do it. So must is that it gives them that opportunity to realize that the passion they have in their heart helps somebody. So that’s that’s a wonderful connection to to connect people to the opportunity to make a difference in people’s lives.

Stone Payton: [00:17:26] Well, that’s an excellent point and actually kind of relates to my next question. Specifically, I was going to ask what can the small business community? And I know there’s other constituencies, but there’s quite a few of us that are that are blessed, you know, would make a comfortable living. We enjoy this marvelous community of ours. What are some things that the Business RadioX is, you know, the Dewey Cheatham and how law firm or, you know, like just look, I saw that on some comedy, but you know, just just the local business, folks. These are people in my experience that have a good heart, but to your point, may not really know, you know, what’s the best way to plug in and provide help that’s going to have some, some impact. So, yeah, talk about that a little bit more.

Kendall Jones: [00:18:12] Well, there’s so many different ways. I mean, the first thing is is that the obviously like where we’re sitting right now, we’re, you know, we’re in the studios here at the innovation spot, right? And they’ve been in business for a few years and they’ve already done three events to to benefit must. You know, they have a heart for helping people. So they did an ax throwing event. We had a lot of fun and I love that. I was terrible at it. But but we enjoyed it. And then they did. At Christmastime, they did. Lunch recalls where, you know, the admission to the lunch was a Christmas toy for our Christmas Toy Shop program. And because the cool part is, is that, you know, we put out a barrel. Anybody can put out a barrel to collect food, for example, and say, Well, what difference does that make? Well, you know, I shared earlier that in fiscal year twenty one, we just forty two point seven million pounds of food. The miracle for me is that we had two point seven million pounds to give. Yeah. And so, you know, we get some large grants, but then a lot of that comes from local businesses. So those type of things, you know, for example. And our clothes closet, we distribute used clothing, but we have a joke, says we, we accept gently used clothing, but we prefer not to accept gently used underwear. And so we’ve had businesses. Do you know an underwear and socks drop? Oh, there you go. So, you know, everything makes a difference. And you know, with the food coming in, you know, it’s like saying Chiaki, we’re distributing a ton and a half a week, so whatever comes in is going to go out.

Kendall Jones: [00:19:32] So obviously monetary donations, it cost us to do what we do. Mm hmm. And so that’s always helpful. I mean, just like just like a church or business, you know you you count on regular monthly income in order to sure to to operate. And the thing about that is is that a lot of people say, I want to give to a specific thing. I’ll give the children, I want to give the food, I want to give to whatever. And that’s awesome. But we actually serve more. They want to say, how can my gift have the greatest impact? We serve more people through our regular everyday services than we do through any special programs. I mean, we do a Christmas toy shop where you know this. This past December, fifty seven hundred kids got gifts that they wouldn’t have otherwise have gotten. You know, we do a summer lunch program where we feed five thousand two hundred kids a week in nine counties or in those seven counties for nine weeks. And so, you know, those are special programs, but we serve, you know, in fiscal year twenty one, we served over forty five thousand people with our regular services. So that’s the greatest impact. You know, it’s not it doesn’t seem as as attractive, but it’s just as important to give, you know, give financially so we can have operate just our regular operating expenses so we can open our doors every day.

Stone Payton: [00:20:41] Well, I was going to ask you about that because my instincts have been for some time now, whether it’s at church or for some good cause that that you are probably going to have a greater impact if you don’t and I don’t know what the right term is. Earmark, you know, like direct where the money goes, like this has to be spent on this or this has to be, I mean, to me, you know, like a church, you know, I think the committee, you know, they’re doing a good job and they they have the bigger picture. And I feel like I would have greater impact with my dollar if I don’t, you know, like, earmark it, is it?

Kendall Jones: [00:21:18] Exactly right. You know, a lot of times people just say for whatever the greatest need because you have like flexibility. I mean, for example, you know, we, you know, we have a motel voucher program. And then when we do our emergency night shelter, you know, anytime just below is thirty five degrees down to our Elizabeth in a night shelter. They open up the kitchen and single men can come in and stay and get out of the cold. And then for the women and children, we put them in the motel, so must before the pandemic was spending about $5000 a month on motel. We’re now spending forty thousand a month motel, so also in this need popped up. And so if you have funds to say for greatest need, you know, wherever that need is, we can apply it towards that. So it’s very helpful to have have the flexibility to do that.

Stone Payton: [00:22:01] Well, and I don’t mean to dismiss the idea. I think it’s fun and creative to do like the underwear drive or the toy things. To me, it’s a both and it is. But I wanted to bring that point out because it just makes sense to me that, you know, it’s going to go further and go exactly where it’s needed right now, right? Well, good. Well, I’m glad I asked. So here we are early. Twenty twenty two. Mm hmm. What upcoming programs, events? What are some things going on in the community over the next 90 days that we ought to let our folks know about?

Kendall Jones: [00:22:32] Well, I’ll borrow a line from WSB copyright infringement, but they always do the the three top things to know for your day. So the three top things to know from us right now. First thing is, we’re celebrating 50 years of serving our neighbors in need. So April 30th, we have our Golden Gala. And so there’ll be an opportunity for people to come and celebrate with us and, you know, business because we can sponsor a table or they can donate some auction items. You know, we’ll, you know, we will celebrate and also fundraise so that we can do what we do for 50 more years. So we have the Golden Gala coming up. The second thing is I talked about earlier, we have the our new overnight shelter down in Cobb County called Hope House. It’s called Hope House Grand, opening sometime in March. Our current Elizabeth in shelter. Seventy two beds, this shelter will be one hundred and thirty six beds. All right. And it has thirty six transitional beds. So you say, Well, what’s a transitional bed? Well, we’ve got one hundred thirty six beds for people who are in our shelter program for the 30 day program. But let’s say somebody comes in and meets one of our client intake people and they need to come into the shelter, but we don’t have any beds available. Used to be, they’d have to go back out and sleep in the tent wherever they were until we had the bed available.

Kendall Jones: [00:23:41] Now we can put them in a transitional bed until the bed opens up in the shelter and they can move in. And then also, once we open up that shelter, the emergency night shelter, the transitional beds will become the emergency warming shelter for people who aren’t in our shelter program but need to escape the cold. So that’s number two the number three. Keep your eyes out open for the must food bus. We got an Old City bus and we retrofitted it and made a mobile food pantry out of it. And so we can put up food for up to 100 families in there and you walk in there and you can get produce, you can get meat, you can get dairy, you can get frozen, you can get toiletries, you can get non-perishables. And so we take that bus to food deserts where people live, where they have access to grocery stores. We also do that to help seniors. We go to a couple of high rises down in Cobb County, where their seniors are, and then we go to the Canton Housing Authority here in Cherokee. And then there’s another location in Woodstock that will be starting to serve soon. So it’s the coolest looking bus, so keep an eye out for the most mobile pantry driving around.

Stone Payton: [00:24:42] Fun. All right. Well, again, your enthusiasm, your passion for the work. I mean, it just shines through. And I know you’re human. You’ve got to run out of juice from time to time to get beat down. I mean. And when that happens, where do you go? And I don’t necessarily mean a physical place, but where do you go to to recharge and inspiration? You know, is it riding the waves down the Gulf of Mexico? Is it, you know, meditation? But how do you recharge and kind of steel yourself to get back out there?

Kendall Jones: [00:25:17] Well, you know, there’s actually a term in our in our field called compassion fatigue. And basically, and that’s not so much, you know, you get tired of being compassionate, but you run up so much need. And sometimes there are situations where you can offer resources. You can see a clear path and sometimes it’s not so clear and you know, you’re not so sure whether they’re going to make it or not. So actually, in my position now I go check on our case managers we have now and just kind of check on the I go say, I’m checking the temperature, how are you doing? I can see where they’re stressed out or not. And so, you know, for me, you know, two things. Number one, anytime you start getting a little stressed about, you know, how are we making a difference? You remember the old starfish story, you know, pick up the starfish and throw it out there and say it made a difference to that one, right? Right. May I help everyone, but they help the one that you did. And the other part for me, just real simple. I’m a runner. I’m a very slow runner, and so I’m out running every morning. I tell people as much for my mental health as my as my physical health. Yeah, I’ve slowed down over the years, but I’m still out there and just kind of I don’t run with music. I just, you know, it’s just the breathing and the footsteps and the nature and and the people say, How do you stay so calm? And part of it is that, you know, I know who’s in control, you know, in prayer every morning. You know, it’s funny with running. You know, when I first started running, it took me six weeks before I could run the mile. So my prayers used to be Lord, help me get to the hill. Now I can pray for other people because I finally been doing it for a little longer. But that’s the way just to stay grounded and just. And by the time I get to work, I’m just I’m chill.

Stone Payton: [00:26:46] Wow. All right, before we wrap, let’s make sure that our listeners know how they can reach out and have a conversation with you or someone on your team or or get involved in some of these activities, whatever you think is appropriate, whether it’s a website and email or phone number or place. But I just want to make sure that they have a place to start learning more and see Insein about getting involved. Sure.

Kendall Jones: [00:27:12] Well, the website is a great place to go to just learn about muscle and all the services and find out where you might want to plug in. So that’s just simply w-w-what must ministries dot org and then for communication like, say, I’ll be, I’ll be the contact point. I’ll I’ll direct the call. It’s just cajones at most ministries dot org. And so I got this email that whatever you want to ask, whatever you want to do and I’ll get you connected.

Stone Payton: [00:27:34] Well, Kendall Jones, Community Liaison, Cherokee For most ministries, it has really been a pleasure having you come on the show this morning. Thanks, man.

Kendall Jones: [00:27:42] Well, thanks so much for having me. It’s been a pleasure to talk to you and just kind of share, hopefully help somebody connect.

Stone Payton: [00:27:49] All right, this is Stone Payton for our guests today. Kendall Jones, Community Liaison, Cherokee with Mussed Ministries and everyone here at the Business RadioX family saying We’ll see you next time on Cherokee Care’s.

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