Don’t Fill In the Blanks
Having a thorough value conversation helps you craft the right solutions for a potential client. Don’t fill in the blanks or make assumptions about what a client values. It’s in the best interest of the client (and, by extension, you) to exercise patience and ask questions.
The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.
TRANSCRIPT
John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello, I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. When I interview a guest on the podcast that I host, my last question is always the same. I ask guests for their best contact information, whether it’s a website, social media channel, maybe a phone number, so that listeners interested in their services or their products know the best way to connect. Normally, that’s not a problem for my guest, even the most nervous ones. And then, there’s the guest who surprises you.
John Ray: [00:00:33] On one show, I had a guest who was the development director for a national chain, opening a location in the Alpharetta area where I live. He was on the show to promote a new location opening in the area. The whole interview was a bit painful. I couldn’t tell whether this guy was nervous or just a man of few words. At certain points, I felt like I was in a verbal struggle to wrest answers out of his mouth.
John Ray: [00:01:03] When we mercifully got to the end of the interview, I breathed a sigh of relief and asked my usual last question. He gave the website followed by silence. The website was for the national chain, not the local location about to open. I waited for a moment. I expected him to at least give a local phone number or something, anything which might make it easy for customers in the area to connect with this one new outlet he was promoting out of a large national chain. But that’s not what happened. It was just the website then crickets.
John Ray: [00:01:44] Well, trying to help out and fill in what I thought was a significant void, I looked at my show notes and I said, “Oh, and I see the phone number for those that would like to call is,” and I gave the phone number. “That’s my cell phone number,” he monotoned. Well, we edited that little snippet out later.
John Ray: [00:02:06] As professional services providers in conversations with our clients, sometimes we get anxious when we’re attempting to conduct a good value conversation to diagnose their needs, and hopes, and desires. We’re striving to make sure the client is a great fit for our practice and price based on the value that we deliver.
John Ray: [00:02:27] And sometimes we have a client who is reticent or maybe they’re busy. They think they already know what they want. And they believe that some of the questions you ask aren’t relevant or you’re just making conversation. They react by shutting down or trying to pivot the conversation to your solutions.
John Ray: [00:02:47] Instead of exercising a bit more patience or engaging the client from another direction which might yield the answers we’re looking for, we end our value conversation and move on. That’s a mistake. Instead of assuming I had the correct phone number, I should have asked my guest, “Do you have a phone number that our listeners here in the area can call for more information?” Instead of doing that, I made an assumption. I filled in the blank and I was dead wrong.
John Ray: [00:03:19] If you haven’t had a deep enough value conversation with a client, later on, when you’re crafting options to put in a proposal, you’ll make conjectures, some of which may be half right, some of which may be just flat out dead wrong. You’ll end up proposing solutions which may not fit the needs of the client, and you might lose a great engagement. You also might end up with a client who’s a bad fit for your practice. You might end up mispricing the engagement. There are a lot of bad things that can happen.
John Ray: [00:03:54] So, slow down and be patient. Always conduct a thorough value conversation. Don’t fill in the blanks.
John Ray: [00:04:04] I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. If you go to pricevaluejourney.com, you can sign up to receive updates on my upcoming book that will be released in the summer of 2023. It’s called The Price and Value Journey: Raising Your Confidence, Your Value and Your Prices Using the Generosity Mindset Method. You can also find a link to the show archive of this series and, of course, you can find the podcast on all the major podcast apps as well. If you’d like to connect with me directly, you can feel free to email me at john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.
About The Price and Value Journey
The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on: building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire, and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.
If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.
The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.
John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey
John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.
John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.
In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translates into revenue.
John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,700 podcast episodes.
Coming in 2023: A New Book!
John’s working on a book that will be released in 2023: The Price and Value Journey: Raise Your Confidence, Your Value, and Your Prices Using The Generosity Mindset. The book covers topics like value and adopting a mindset of value, pricing your services more effectively, proposals, and essential elements of growing your business. For more information or to sign up to receive updates on the book release, go to pricevaluejourney.com.