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The Post-It Note You Need on the Bathroom Mirror

March 30, 2022 by John Ray

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Some folks use a Post-It note in a prominent place, like the bathroom mirror or on their computer monitor, to remind them of their goals and to provide motivation. Here’s a suggestion for what that note should contain to help you to attain those goals. The suggestion may surprise you. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello. I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. The Post-it Note you need on the bathroom mirror.

John Ray: [00:00:10] Some folks use the Post-it Note in a prominent place like the bathroom mirror or on their computer monitor to remind them of their goals and to provide motivation to reach those goals. The idea is that if you visualize it, it will happen. For some, visualization might work wonders. For the rest of us, it sets us up for failure and despair. And my golf game is just one example.

John Ray: [00:00:40] Now here we are as I record this episode, we’re approaching the end of the first quarter, 2022, and that Post-it Note with the goals for this year, for some of us, might feel like more of a screaming inditement than encouragement. Maybe we’re even working off a new note, one with more modest aspirations, and we’re feeling guilty because we lowered our sights.

John Ray: [00:01:07] Instead of goals based on sales or number of clients, try this reminder note and see how it fits for you. Stuff I need to quit doing. What should be on this list are the items that you as the owner of your business have no business doing yourself yet you persist. It’s low-level client work. It’s bookkeeping or marketing details. It’s work that’s necessary for the health of your business but it doesn’t mean that you need to be the one to do it even if you’re a solopreneur.

John Ray: [00:01:46] Now, just to be clear, low level doesn’t mean low value. On the contrary, the outcome of a low-level task can often be very high value. By low level, I mean repeatable tasks, which you can teach someone else to do such that you can focus on those items which most need your own attention. Now whatever is on your list of stuff that you need to quit doing, it’s those things that take you away from high-level client work, which is the real value add or the business development work that you never seem to have time for.

John Ray: [00:02:29] Now, I just didn’t come up with this idea myself. W Edwards Deming, who was born in 1900, writing on management and leadership, observed that 85% of the reasons for failure are deficiencies in the systems and process rather than the employee. The role of management, he said, is to change the process rather than badgering individuals to do better. Now, Deming’s management philosophy of total quality management, by the way, was arguably the single biggest idea, which drove Japan’s recovery after World War II.

John Ray: [00:03:15] Now, if we apply Deming’s idea to our own businesses, we might infer that about 85% of the reason we don’t hit our goals for top-line growth arises from a failure of our systems or processes. So if you’re off track on the goals you set for yourself for this year, follow Deming’s idea. Quit badgering yourself to do better first. Tear up that Post-it Note you started the year with and make up a new one. Focus on removing the sand in the gears of your business, the minutia you have no business doing. As you get those details off your plate, you’ll be amazed at the value you’re giving yourself and your business.

John Ray: [00:04:04] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. Previous episodes of this series can be found at pricevaluejourney.com. And to connect with me directly, you’re welcome to email me, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

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Prices are Marketing Signals: The Woodworker Edition

March 28, 2022 by John Ray

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Prices are Marketing Signals: The Woodworker Edition

Prices are marketing signals. Prices send messages of quality, and sometimes prices send a signal you didn’t intend:  that your service is inferior in some way. A master woodworker’s story illustrates the point. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

TRANSCRIPT

John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello. I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. A few years ago, I gave a presentation to a group of business owners on pricing and specifically how pricing is the most important driver of revenue and profit growth in a business.

John Ray: [00:00:15] To understand pricing, it’s important to understand the value equation customers sort through as they evaluate a purchase. Regardless of whether they consciously realize it or not, clients weigh a comparison in their head. Does the value received from this product or service exceed the cost of the purchase? Now, that value could be tangible or intangible. Most often it’s a combination of both.

John Ray: [00:00:43] After my presentation, I received a comment from Hans Meyer. He’s a friend of mine who, at the time, was in the office products business. But on the side, Hans is a phenomenally talented wood craftsman. In fact, he does that work fulltime now that he’s retired. He makes a variety of wood decorative items, toys, puzzles, teaches other craftsmen, and exhibits at weekend trade shows.

John Ray: [00:01:12] Hans shared with me that he started making wood fret crosses. Now, wooden fret crosses can be extremely ornate and intricate. They’re beautiful works of art. Hans had made several large ones, which he had priced at $40 to 50 each. Despite their beauty, the crosses were just not selling. And in turn, this led to another problem, these crosses had been to eight or ten different craft shows and had not sold.

John Ray: [00:01:43] Well, finally, out of frustration at one show where, again, the crosses were not selling and not wanting to have to lug them back home yet again, Hans decided to mark them down and get rid of them. With pen in hand, he started changing prices. What are you doing? A voice called urgently from the next booth. It was a lady who was exhibiting her crafts next to Hans and she was curious.

John Ray: [00:02:10] Hans told her the saga of his crosses and how he wanted to mark them down to get rid of them. “No,” she replied emphatically, “do not do that. Absolutely not.” Hans was exasperated, he said, and he handed her the pen, “Okay then, you price them.” Well, she took the pen and she made new tags for the crosses, pricing them from $125 to 150 each. During that same show, Hans sold three crosses at the new higher prices to three different customers.

John Ray: [00:02:48] Hans now routinely sells these ornate crosses from $175 to 225 each. That’s about four times more than before his fellow exhibitor took that pen and in just a few short moments completely transformed the profitability of these products.

John Ray: [00:03:08] As business owners, we need to understand that our price is sometimes interpreted as a signal by customers. A signal of quality or a lack thereof. A readiness to discount or markdown may be interpreted by the client as an admission that the product or service really doesn’t have that much value after all. In such cases, discounts may not actually drive a sale. On the contrary, the signals sent by a discounted or low price may drive the client away and into the arms of another provider whose higher price signals better quality.

John Ray: [00:03:47] In the case of Hans and his decorative fret crosses, a higher price reinforced in the minds of buying clients what they came to the craft show to purchase, an intricately carved handmade item, handmade by a master craftsman. Hans’ original much lower price may have been interpreted by potential buyers as a signal these items were not of much quality and craftsmanship.

John Ray: [00:04:16] If you enjoy a craft beer or wine and you’re not really a connoisseur, think about how you order in a restaurant confronted by a list of beers and wines. Some of which you’ve never had before. Some of which you’ve never heard of. What’s your first impression of the $8 glass of craft beer you’ve never heard of compared to that $2 Budweiser draft? The former has to be good if it’s $8, right?

John Ray: [00:04:45] Now, you don’t have to imbibe to be subject to this phenomena. What about that delivered pizza from the national chain which you purchased with a discount you accidentally found online and which comes in a box with more coupons taped on top? How does your perception of the quality of that pizza compare in your mind to the more expensive version you get in a sit down Italian restaurant, which, not only doesn’t deliver, but doesn’t discount?

John Ray: [00:05:15] This dynamic is not just true in extremely subjective products like arts and crafts or food and drink. What’s your immediate perception of the experience, intellectual depth, advice, and service quality of the attorney advertising on a billboard for a $199 divorce versus an attorney who asks for a $10,000 retainer to begin the divorce process? Absent any other information, which attorney would you think offers the best quality service?

John Ray: [00:05:53] Understand that your price is a signal to potential buyers. Price your service with care. Those prices may be interpreted in ways you never considered and can reveal much more about your service than you can imagine.

John Ray: [00:06:10] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. Other episodes in this series can be found at pricevaluejourney.com or on your favorite podcast app.

John Ray: [00:06:21] I want to give a shoutout to Hans Meyer. If you’d like to see more of his work, go to hanspuzzles.com, that’s H-A-N-S-puzzles.com Hans is an outstanding woodworker who makes not only puzzles and fret crosses, but all manner of unique handcrafted wood products.

John Ray: [00:06:46] If you’d like to connect with me directly, you can send me an email, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Tagged With: John Ray, marketing, marketing signals, Price and Value Journey, prices, pricing, professional services, professional services providers, solopreneurs, The Price and Value Journey, value

Experts Don’t Chase

March 25, 2022 by John Ray

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Experts Don’t Chase

Experts don’t chase for a lot of reasons. One reason is that they’re too busy. The unsolicited pitches of a business and life coach prompts thoughts on expertise, chasing prospects, and the unintended signals some professional services providers send. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

TRANSCRIPT

John Ray: [00:00:00] And hello. I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. Dogs chase, experts don’t.

John Ray: [00:00:10] Sometime ago, a business and life coach connected with me on LinkedIn. Almost immediately, the automated private messages followed in a steady beat. My usual response to all this is simply to ignore. But the bots kept delivering the appeals, though, and they were progressively more urgent.

John Ray: [00:00:32] One note promises that her suggestions can help my business get back on solid ground. Never mind that she’s made no attempt to engage me in any personal way to find out exactly what I do, what’s going on with my business, what my needs are, and even what my favorite flavor of ice cream might be. Nothing.

John Ray: [00:00:55] In all these bots – yes, bots. Automated robot messages – she doesn’t offer me any insights that might help me in my business. Not even a pointer to the book she’s got for sale, an e-book, or even a blog post. Not even a pithy quote. Nothing.

John Ray: [00:01:16] Finally, in the last message I received, I got this, “I get it. You’re busy. But that doesn’t mean I’m giving up on you.” Good grief. That’s awesome. It’s great to know that I’ve got someone out there, someone who doesn’t know me from Adam’s house cat who’s not giving up on me.

John Ray: [00:01:38] Now, maybe you think I’m cranky for my critique, and maybe you think I have something against LinkedIn Sales Navigator or other similarly generation tools. But the tools and the technology aren’t the issue. The problem is how they are employed. These tools can be a godsend for professional services providers legitimately trying to expand their network. When used to chase people, though, with what amounts to spam, these tools devalue the brand you’re trying to build.

John Ray: [00:02:13] I’m thinking about this situation from the point of view of the coach, not me and the hundreds of other people she’s spamming on LinkedIn. Frankly, I feel a little bit sorry for her. She may be the best business and life coach one could ever hire, but that’s not the vibe she’s giving me. The signal she’s sending is that she has to chase people to get business. And that dents my perception of her abilities as a business coach.

John Ray: [00:02:41] If she’s so great, why does she need to chase me or anyone else with automated bots on LinkedIn? She’s not offering me even a glimpse into how she, out of the thousands of business coaches I could find on LinkedIn, might be able to help me with the particular problems that I have. She’s offering me no glimpses of her expertise, even though she clearly has some. Yes, I went to her website and poked around. All she’s doing is chasing.

John Ray: [00:03:10] That’s what dogs do, chase. Experts don’t chase. They’re too busy to chase. And let’s suppose she’s actually fortunate enough to shake out a few leads from this hunting she’s doing. If any of these leads turn into prospects, will this coach be able to command prices which reflect the value she delivers to clients? The chances are slim, I think, because she’s sending signals that she needs the business arguably worse than I or any of our other targets need her coaching. She’s fostering the perception, whether intended or not, that she badly needs the business.

John Ray: [00:03:54] And if you’re a coach who wants to receive prices commensurate with the value you offer, it’s a bottom line killer.

John Ray: [00:04:02] I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. The show archive for this series can be found on your favorite podcast app or at pricevaluejourney.com. And if you’d like to connect with me directly, you can send an email to john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Tagged With: Experts, John Ray, Price and Value Journey, pricing, professional services, professional services providers, prospects, solopreneurs, The Price and Value Journey, value

How to Get Great Referrals

March 21, 2022 by John Ray

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How to Get Great Referrals

For us as professional services providers, the answer to the question of how to get great referrals lies in the clients we already have. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello. I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. How do you get great referrals? I don’t mean referrals which are average or marginal. I mean referrals to clients who are the best fit for your practice.

John Ray: [00:00:17] For professional services providers, there’s a simple answer. The answer starts with the clients you take on, to begin with. You only accept clients who are the best fit for you and your practice. Best fit clients are those clients whom you deliver stellar results for, who see the value in what you deliver, the transformation that you give them. They’re happy to pay for that value and they’re clients you enjoy working with.

John Ray: [00:00:47] Great clients know other great clients for you. And your best clients want you to succeed. And they’ll go out of their way to refer that kind of business to you. They do this in part because they feel invested in you. That’s the way great clients react to their services providers whose work they value. That’s part of what makes them great.

John Ray: [00:01:13] Your best fit clients are invariably grateful. They appreciate you and the substantial and positive changes you’ve brought about for them. It might even be years after the engagement, but your best fit clients still refer other superb clients to you because they’re still basking in the glow of the work you did, and they remember.

John Ray: [00:01:37] Now, conversely, how do you get poor quality referrals? Well, you guessed it, if you compromise or stretch and you accept clients who aren’t the best fit, then guess what profile of client they’ll send your way. A client that looks just like them. A client who is not an ideal fit for your practice.

John Ray: [00:02:02] Roses prefer roses and thorns refer thorns. That’s another reason why it’s vital that you take good care in the clients you take on. Focus on clients who are the best fit. Who you can do a great job for, who willingly write checks which are commensurate with the value that you deliver, and who you enjoy working with.

John Ray: [00:02:27] I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. I’m honored that you’d spend time listening to this episode. If you’d like to hear more of the series, you can find it at pricevaluejourney.com. If you’d like to connect with me directly, you can email me, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Tagged With: clients, generating referrals, John Ray, Price and Value Journey, pricing, professional services, professional services providers, referrals, solopreneurs, The Price and Value Journey, value

When Is It Time to Fire a Client?

March 14, 2022 by John Ray

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When is it time to fire a client? There are several factors to consider, and not all of them have to do with the client or whatever problems we think they’re causing for us and our practice. We must be honest:  some of the considerations on such a decision have to do with us. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello again. I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. When is it time to fire a client? If you think the answer is never or you don’t want to address the question, that’s a sign of a problem in your professional services practice. Clients change and so do you. You must address these changes or your practice will get unwieldy or even unprofitable.

John Ray: [00:00:23] Here are a few factors you can use to determine whether a client should be invited to explore other options. First, unreasonable and repeated boundary violations. My personal favorite on this one is the guy who always called me on Sunday mornings because, according to him, that was the only quiet time he could talk. I told him bye-bye.

John Ray: [00:00:48] Two, change in their business. Maybe their business is changed in a way which makes them less of a fit for your practice. Now, this situation may be a positive for both of you. Both of you have grown in different directions, for example.

John Ray: [00:01:05] Three, change in your business. Because you’ve developed a special expertise, maybe you’ve decided to focus on left handed house painters, for example, and right handed window washers just aren’t a fit anymore. You’re doing both yourself and the client a favor by recognizing that the fit just isn’t there anymore.

John Ray: [00:01:28] Late payers. This one is self-explanatory, but it also raises the question of why you’re not billing and collecting in advance.

John Ray: [00:01:39] Number five, the shoe doesn’t fit anymore. You’ve grown to a point where those smaller clients aren’t a great fit and they can get better attention from another provider. Admit it, it’s better for the client and it’s better for you.

John Ray: [00:01:56] And then, finally, number six, you’ve just lost that loving feeling. Maybe the client has, too. It’s when you know in your gut that you’re just not in sync with your client. If you’re sensing it, the client is too.

John Ray: [00:02:12] These are a few factors. But here’s what I hope you’ll take away, that not all the reasons why we would disengage from a client have to do with the client themselves. Some of them, if we’re honest, have to do with us and how we’ve changed, and how it’s better for the client if we give them an opportunity to move on. It’s not just about us.

John Ray: [00:02:39] I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. I’m honored that you joined me. And if you’d like to hear more of this series, go to pricevaluejourney.com to find the complete show archive or subscribe using your favorite podcast app. You can also email me directly, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

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A Business Lesson from an Epidural

March 11, 2022 by John Ray

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Can you derive a business lesson from an epidural? Yes, says John Ray, and it involves small pinch points which cause dysfunction in an entirely different part of our business. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello again. I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. Is there a business lesson from an epidural? Okay. Here’s fair warning. If my medical history is more than you want to hear, now’s the time to skip to another podcast episode.

John Ray: [00:00:19] I’d been having some numbness and pain in my arm from my shoulder all the way down to my fingertips. And it got to the point where it was fairly constant and I was losing sleep over it. I’ll spare you the whole story, but the medical experts decided that the problem wasn’t in my arm. It was in the cervical spine, specifically a nerve problem in the neck bones. They decided I needed an epidural, which would involve an injection of medication between the vertebrae into a very small area.

John Ray: [00:00:55] In other words, the source of a big problem was centered in a very small spot, and that spot was nowhere near where the symptoms were evident. What occurs to me is that this metaphor applies to our businesses as well. Often when we suffer from some sort of pain or dysfunction in our business, the source of that pain is not located anywhere near the dysfunction itself. So, we don’t really connect the two. We don’t connect the pinch point, if you will, with the dysfunction.

John Ray: [00:01:32] We’re focused on the pain and irritation in the arm or leg of our business, and we think that we need to focus there, fix the pain there. But all we’re really doing is playing around with symptoms instead of administering a cure.

John Ray: [00:01:49] So, let me give you an example. One of the changes I made some time ago was removing notifications from a lot of apps I have on my phone, particularly social media apps. You know, those little red dots that scream at you and say, “Open me. Open me.” So, you can satisfy that psychological curiosity you have of what do I need to see now?

John Ray: [00:02:16] So, now, instead of being lured into scrolling on social media, which is exactly what the social media companies want you to do, when I have a few extra minutes standing in line or what have you, I spend it in my Kindle app on a book I’m reading. It’s a much more edifying way to spend my time than on the scroll patrol.

John Ray: [00:02:44] Now, there are other examples of this as well that may apply for you in your practice. Maybe you’ve always been doing the bookkeeping for your practice because you know what you’re doing and you’re pretty good at it.

John Ray: [00:02:57] Maybe you handle the social media or some other marketing task. But that takes up time, even if you know those tasks quite well and you know how to do that work and it’s effective. The time that you’re taking up in those tasks takes away from something which is much more valuable to your clients and your practice. And that’s the use of what’s between your ears to create value for clients and solve their problems.

John Ray: [00:03:32] So, if you’re spending time on this back office business task because you’re saving money, what you’re really doing is creating a pinch point that may cause pain elsewhere in your business. So, where does your practice need an epidural? Where is that pain in your practice? And can you trace the source of that pain or at least some of the source of that pain back to something else?

John Ray: [00:04:03] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. Past episodes of this podcast series can be found at pricevaluejourney.com or on your favorite podcast app. And I’d be honored if you’d subscribe and share the show with those that you think would benefit from it. If you’d like to connect with me directly, just email me john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

  

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

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A Real-Life Example of How Hourly Pricing Hurts Your Bottom Line

March 9, 2022 by John Ray

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Hourly pricing or pricing by any increment of time is one of the red flags of inadequate pricing for professional services providers. Here’s a real-life example from a coaching call which illustrates how hourly pricing hurts your bottom line. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] Hello. I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. One of the red flags for me of inadequate pricing for professional services providers is pricing by the hour. Now, it’s not that hard once you dig into the details of a particular project or situation to prove it.

John Ray: [00:00:19] Here’s an example. Recently, I spoke with a professional about her pricing, and it was a service with significant value for the niche that she and her firm work in. They have comprehensive experience as both employees and consultants to several different organizations in this niche. They can cite case studies in which she has delivered demonstrable, hard dollar results. Their work delivered high six and low seven figure results for these organizations.

John Ray: [00:00:55] Now, one suggestion that she had received was to price her service at $150 per hour. Her first impulse was to wonder whether that was “too much”. So, let’s go through the math of this, I suggested to her, “Let’s take the example you mentioned of that $1 million result. How many hours did you spend on that project?” Well, after we chatted a bit, she decided it was about 25 hours.

John Ray: [00:01:24] I suggested we assume 50 hours for purposes of this exercise. So, double the number of hours and that we assume $150 per hour. The reason I suggested we double the number of hours is just to address the what if the project takes more hours objection that commonly occurs in these situations. So, in this exercise, which is hypothetical, but it’s based on actual results that she delivered, this provider’s total revenue would have been $7,500. So, that’s 50 hours of the project times $150 per hour.

John Ray: [00:02:04] So, let’s go back in time, I told her, to the point where you were proposing this project to the client. What would their reaction have been if you said you could deliver a $1 million result and that your fee for doing so would be $25,000? What would happen if you went on to ask them what they’d do if you only delivered $500,000? Wouldn’t they still believe the investment in you and your service was worth it? You’re still giving them a 20 times return on their investment, which is one indicator that that $25,000 might not be a high enough price, by the way.

John Ray: [00:02:48] Just in the side here, don’t ignore the fact that we’re just measuring hard dollar outcome that the client receives. We’re not measuring the intangible benefits to the organization and its leaders, which this outcome would also deliver. Those intangibles have value as well.

John Ray: [00:03:08] Further, I told her, by pricing your service in this way, you’re using your price to deliver a marketing signal to the client. A signal that indicates quality, your experience, you deliver results. Those results are demonstrable and you’re worth the investment on their part.

John Ray: [00:03:27] The question with getting off the hourly hamster wheel doesn’t even start with you. So, you start with the problems the client is experiencing that you solve. The friction in their business and their life that you can remove. And the consequent value, both tangible and intangible, you’re able to deliver back to your client. You think in those terms and you price to receive a slice of that value which still gives the client a substantial ROI. And there’s just one example of why when you price by the hour, your price is too low.

John Ray: [00:04:08] I’m John Ray on The Price and Value Journey. If you’d like to hear additional episodes of this podcast series, go to pricevaluejourney.com. And, of course, you can subscribe in your favorite podcast app. And if you’d like to connect with me directly, you can send an email to john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

  

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Tagged With: Coaching, coaching call, hourly pricing, John Ray, Price and Value Journey, pricing, pricing by time, professional services firms, professional services providers, solopreneurs, The Price and Value Journey, value

Nice, Kind, and Offering Value

March 7, 2022 by John Ray

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You can always be kind, but being nice can sometimes inhibit your capacity to deliver value. Yes, there’s a difference between being nice and kind. A story and some thoughts on nice, kind, and offering value to clients and prospects in your professional services practice. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] And hello again. I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. As you manage relationships with prospects and clients in your professional services practice, it’s important to understand the difference between nice and kind. Yes, there is a difference between being nice and being kind.

John Ray: [00:00:24] Several years ago, I was invited by a local economic development official, I’ll call her Ann, to sit in on a meeting with an entrepreneur who was opening a new business concept. This project required a significant investment on his part, and this entrepreneur, who I’ll call Bob, he wanted feedback from several business professionals on his concept. Well, Ann asked me to be one of those professionals, and I sit in on a presentation of Bob’s plans. And he talked about the market for his service, the amount of investment, et cetera. And he went on and he went on and he went on. And I began to feel like my sole purpose in the meeting, along with everyone else who had been asked to join, was to serve as basically a potted plant, making the scene look tranquil, but to stay quiet and acquiescent and nodding my head.

John Ray: [00:01:24] Well, finally, I had an opening to ask a question and then another one and more after that. And the questions that I asked were about what I thought were holes and inconsistencies that I saw in his business plan. For some of the questions, Bob had thoughtful answers. For others, he scratched his head, took some notes, and said he’d have to do further work.

John Ray: [00:01:49] Now, our exchanges were direct but friendly. Well, that’s what I thought anyway. But Ann didn’t think so. She pulled me aside after the meeting. “Is there something wrong with you?” she said. I could tell by the way she asked the question she wasn’t really interested in my health and welfare. “No. Why?” “You asked questions which bordered on rude.” “Well, I thought we were here because Bob wanted feedback on his plans.” She replied, “But all your questions were negative. You didn’t have to get into everything that was wrong.” Ann never invited me to any meetings like this again.

John Ray: [00:02:30] But several years later, Bob called me. “I want to thank you,” he said. “For what?” “Well, I remember you and you stood out in that meeting we had because you were the only person who asked me any tough questions. What you asked made us think and helped us sharpen our plan, and we’re better off because of it.”

John Ray: [00:02:53] It would have been enough if he just called to tell me that. But here’s the reason he called me. He wanted to hire me for some consulting related to his pricing. He said he knew I’d tell him what he needed to hear which was good for the project instead of just what he wanted to hear. This guy, I thought to myself, is going to be successful. He’s a mature entrepreneur who understands that asking for feedback sometimes means receiving constructive criticism, which would be vital to honing his plans.

John Ray: [00:03:30] As a professional services provider, your job is not to be nice. The best clients, in fact, don’t want nice. There’s not a lot of value in nice. Their primary concern is the outcomes that you can help them deliver. They want you to diagnose and fix their problems and, yes, be kind while you do it. But the best clients don’t have time for a shallow backslapping, and they are willing to pay you fees commensurate with the value that you deliver.

John Ray: [00:04:08] You see, nice is what golden retrievers are for. My golden retriever, Cooper, is always ready whenever I’d like the nice treatment. And the economic development official, she thought Bob wanted a room full of golden retrievers wagging their tails at everything he offered up. On the contrary, Bob wanted value, yes, value delivered in a kind way, but he wanted value. What he wanted most of all was help getting to his desired outcomes. And he was willing to pay for that value. And, yes, as a result, his business has been successful.

John Ray: [00:04:51] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. If you’d like to find our show archive, you can go to pricevaluejourney.com. And if you’d like to connect with me directly, you can email me, john@johnray.co. Thank you for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

 

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How a Higher Price Makes You More Competitive

March 4, 2022 by John Ray

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As a professional services provider, don’t you have to lower your price to be more attractive to the marketplace? How does a higher price make you more competitive? Answers to these questions in this episode. The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX®.

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John Ray: [00:00:00] And hello again. I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. How does a higher price make you more competitive? I was with the services provider the other day who I’ve had multiple visits with to talk about his pricing. “I raise my prices again,” he said. He went on to talk about the benefits he’d received from that move, including weeding out clients who aren’t a great fit. He also said it’s made me more competitive. Well, that comment raised my eyebrows as most entrepreneurs think higher prices make you less competitive, not more.

John Ray: [00:00:42] “How is higher pricing made you more competitive?” I asked him. “Well, it’s gotten me into larger companies,” he said. “The larger corporate clients I want to do business with see me as a serious player. They look at me and see me as a real company, which is what I am.”

John Ray: [00:01:01] If you’re a small business or solopreneur trying to break into the corporate market, pricing as a marketing signal becomes very important. The rationale keeping your price low because it’s easier for a corporate buyer to hire you is flat out wrong. Buyers inside corporations are invariably risk-averse. They fear missing the deliverable date on the project they’re working on. They fear the project getting screwed up by the vendor they hire, thereby incurring the wrath of not only their boss but the boss’s boss who comes down on both of them. Beyond looking incompetent, a bad decision could cost them a promotion or even their job.

John Ray: [00:01:45] This is one place where consultants, speakers, and other professional services providers get mixed up on what constitutes value. You’re so used to getting beat up by nickel-squeezing small business buyers that by the time you break into the corporate space, you don’t understand what’s valued. For a corporate buyer, there’s value in reliability in knowing the project will not just get done but will be done as agreed upon and completed on time.

John Ray: [00:02:17] Value comes in knowing a vendor has the resources to get and keep the project on track. There’s value in experience and reputation and consistency, evidenced in other corporate engagements successfully completed. By the way, it’s true for your best-fit clients among small businesses, too. The best ones, the ones you want to do business with don’t have time to penny-pinch. They’ve got big goals and they need vendors who can deliver. I’m not suggesting that price is unimportant. Price is always a consideration. Price, though, is just one factor as a risk-averse corporate buyer also weighs reliability, resources, experience, consistency, and reputation. It’s all these characteristics which make you competitive in the corporate market.

John Ray: [00:03:12] I’m John Ray on the Price and Value Journey. If you’d like to connect with me, go to johnray.co, or email me, john@johnray.co. Thanks for joining me.

 

 

About The Price and Value Journey

The title of this show describes the journey all professional services providers are on:  building a services practice by seeking to convince the world of the value we offer, helping clients achieve the outcomes they desire and trying to do all that at pricing which reflects the value we deliver.

If you feel like you’re working too hard for too little money in your solo or small firm practice, this show is for you. Even if you’re reasonably happy with your practice, you’ll hear ways to improve both your bottom line as well as the mindset you bring to your business.

The show is produced by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® and can be found on all the major podcast apps. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Host of “The Price and Value Journey”

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneur and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their “grey matter,” such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a Studio Owner, Producer, and Show Host with Business RadioX®, and works with business owners who want to do their own podcast. As a veteran B2B services provider, John’s special sauce is coaching B2B professionals to use a podcast to build relationships in a non-salesy way which translate into revenue.

John is the host of North Fulton Business Radio, Minneapolis-St. Paul Business Radio, Nashville Business Radio, Alpharetta Tech Talk, and Business Leaders Radio. house shows which feature a wide range of business leaders and companies. John has hosted and/or produced over 1,100 podcast episodes.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

 

Tagged With: competitive, corporate, corporate market, higher price, John Ray, Price and Value Journey, pricing, professional services firms, professional services providers, solopreneurs, value

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