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Thor Legvold on Nordic Leadership, Purpose, and Pricing

August 6, 2025 by John Ray

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Thor Legvold on Nordic Leadership, Purpose, and Pricing (The Price and Value Journey, Episode 141)

In this episode of The Price and Value Journey, Thor Legvold joins host John Ray to talk about how the way we lead ourselves, our clients, and our firms shapes how others understand our value. Drawing from the Nordic leadership model, Thor explains how values like trust, purpose, and shared responsibility are not soft concepts. They’re strategic levers that affect how we build businesses, lead people, and price our services.

The conversation underscores the close connection between pricing and values. When your firm is clear on its purpose and leads with integrity, pricing becomes less about what the market will bear and more about what your work is worth.

Topics covered include:

  • The core ideas behind Nordic leadership
  • Why purpose and values must inform business decisions
  • How solo and small-firm professionals can reset when they’ve burned out or hit a wall
  • Why empowerment matters, both internally and in client work
  • How to price with purpose, not apology

This episode is particularly aimed at professionals who struggle to balance their values with the need to charge appropriately for their work. It’s not a tradeoff; on the contrary, it’s a path forward.

The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of the Business RadioX® podcast network.

Key Takeaways You Can Use from This Episode

  • Nordic leadership works. Values like empowerment and purpose drive real business results.
  • Purpose guides everything. It shapes decisions, culture, and how others perceive your value.
  • Feeling lost? Return to your values. Burnout or transition is a cue to recenter on what truly matters.
  • Empowerment means ownership. Don’t just assign tasks; delegate real responsibility.
  • Co-create with clients. Better outcomes come from collaboration, not prescriptions.
  • Purpose supports premium pricing. Clients pay more when they believe in your “why.”
  • Culture is your leadership in action. Your behavior sets the tone more than your policies.
  • Your legacy extends beyond visibility. Trust that your impact reaches further than you can see.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Welcome to The Price and Value Journey
00:09 Exploring Leadership and Value Perception
00:25 Guest Introduction: Tor Legvold
00:32 Understanding Nordic Leadership
03:08 Nordic Leadership Principles
07:33 Applying Nordic Leadership in the US
10:48 Purpose and Values in Professional Services
14:50 Recalculating: Navigating Career Transitions
19:41 Balancing Purpose and Practicality
23:07 Purpose-Driven Organizations and Integrity
29:36 The Power of Integrity in Business
30:29 Empowerment and Delegation in Nordic Leadership
34:53 Collaborative Client Relationships
37:14 Building Strong Company Culture
44:11 Values and Purpose-Driven Business
52:01 Balancing Premium Pricing with Purpose
55:09 Conclusion and Contact Information

Thor Legvold, Legvold Consulting

Thor Legvold, Legvold Consulting
Thor Legvold, Legvold Consulting

Thor Legvold empowers organizations to navigate leadership challenges, cross-cultural collaboration, and post-merger integration through proven Nordic leadership principles. With global expertise in organizational psychology, Thor ensures leadership alignment, cultural synergy, and long-term growth. Whether serving as an executive coach or leading full-scale integrations, he helps clients build resilient teams and drive effective outcomes in dynamic environments.

Legvold leads with integrity, collaboration, sustainability, and a global mindset. Thor’s work is grounded in trust, honesty, and respect for human dignity, empowering people and teams to achieve lasting impact. By embracing a systems-oriented approach, he designs solutions that honor interconnected ecosystems and prioritize balance and inclusivity. With a passion for cross-cultural engagement, Thor helps leaders and organizations innovate and thrive in a connected world.

In over twenty years of consulting for businesses and organizations, he’s had the opportunity to work across a wide range of industries, including tech, finance, entertainment, industrial/manufacturing, and retail, as well as the public sector. Thor has extensive experience successfully working with entrepreneurs and startups, family businesses, AI organizations and companies ranging from midsize to Fortune 500. Wherever people are involved, Thor has a proven track record of delivering value.

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John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include business coaching and advisory work, as well as advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, coaches, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a podcast show host, strategist, and the owner of North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®. John and his team work with B2B professionals to create and conduct their podcast using The Generosity Mindset® Method: building and deepening relationships in a non-salesy way that translates into revenue for their business.

John is also the host of North Fulton Business Radio. With over 880 shows and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in its region like no one else.

John’s book, The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices

The Generosity Mindset, by John RayJohn is the #1 national best-selling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

If you are a professional services provider, your goal is to do transformative work for clients you love working with and get paid commensurate with the value you deliver to them. While negative mindsets can inhibit your growth, adopting a different mindset, The Generosity Mindset®, can replace those self-limiting beliefs. The Generosity Mindset enables you to diagnose and communicate the value you deliver to clients and, in turn, more effectively price to receive a portion of that value.

Whether you’re a consultant, coach, marketing or branding professional, business advisor, attorney, CPA, or work in virtually any other professional services discipline, your content and technical expertise are not proprietary. What’s unique, though, is your experience and how you synthesize and deliver your knowledge. What’s special is your demeanor or the way you deal with your best-fit clients. What’s invaluable is how you deliver outstanding value by guiding people through massive changes in their personal lives and in their businesses that bring them to a place they never thought possible.

Your combination of these elements is unique in your industry. There lies your value, but it’s not the value you see. It’s the value your best-fit customers see in you.

If pricing your value feels uncomfortable or unfamiliar to you, this book will teach you why putting a price on the value your clients perceive and identify serves both them and you, and you’ll learn the factors involved in getting your price right.

The book is available at all major physical and online book retailers worldwide. Follow this link for further details.

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Tagged With: Culture, Delegation, empowerment, John Ray, Leadership, Legvold Consulting, Nordic leadership, premium pricing, pricing, professional services, purpose, purpose-driven, The Price and Value Journey, Thor Legvold, values

E103 Finding Your Project Management Purpose with Ricardo Sastre Martin

May 24, 2022 by Karen

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E103 Finding Your Project Management Purpose with Ricardo Sastre Martin

In this episode of Project Management Office Hours, PMO Joe chats with Ricardo Sastre Martin who joined us live from Spain. Ricardo is a leader in our industry with over 16 years experience as a Project Manager, PMO Leader and Consultant. He is also holds the #2 ranking in the Thinkers360 Project Management category.

Ricardo and PMO Joe chatted about having a Growth Mindset, with Ricardo sharing, “the pace of change in the world is so dramatic that if you are not learning continuously you are going to be out of the race because things are changing very fast right now so you have to keep learning.” Ricardo works for Microsoft which promotes the growth mindset, “here at Microsoft we have some time allocated in our daily work or weekly work for training because the company really believes in the need and the power of training and continuous learning.”

Ricardo also shares his perspectives on Artificial Intelligence in Project Management, the Project Economy, and having Purpose with his work. He shared, “So always try to have a purpose, because if you don’t have a purpose, you cannot guide where are you going. So you cannot define your goals and you cannot define what are you going to do to achieve those goals. So at the end, you are kind of lost. So we all need to have a purpose mission in our life, not only in our career.”

Ricardo and PMO Joe continue their discussion about people and influences who have helped shape their careers. 

Connect with Ricardo:
LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/ricardosastre-pmo
Twitter – https://twitter.com/ric_sas

To see the guest list for upcoming shows – https://www.thepmosquad.com/podcast
Thank you to THE PMO SQUAD and The PMO Leader for sponsoring this show.

The PMO Squad is a leading provider of PMO and Project Management services in the US. They assist clients building and improving PMOs, provide Project Management Consulting services, deliver custom Project Management Training and provide Project Management staffing services.
Learn more about The PMO Squad – www.thepmosquad.com

Where do PMO Leaders go for Information, Learning, Networking and Services? The PMO Leader community has “Everything You Need to Become a Great PMO Leader”. One PMO World, One Community!
Learn more about The PMO Leader – www.thepmoleader.com

Every company has a mission. What’s ours? To empower every person and every organization to achieve more. We believe technology can and should be a force for good and that meaningful innovation contributes to a brighter world in the future and today. MS-Logo

Our culture doesn’t just encourage curiosity; it embraces it. Each day we make progress together by showing up as our authentic selves. We show up with a learn-it-all mentality. We show up cheering on others, knowing their success doesn’t diminish our own. We show up every day open to learning our own biases, changing our behavior, and inviting in differences. When we show up, we achieve more together.

Microsoft operates in 190 countries and is made up of 181,000 passionate employees worldwide.

Ricardo-Sastre-Martin-Project-Management-Office-HoursRicardo Sastre Martin is a Project Management professional with more than 16 years of professional experience leading projects, programs, portfolios and PMOs in more than 40 countries along 4 continents for multinational companies like Ericsson, Telefonica and Microsoft.

Founder and former leader of the Telefonica CX PMO, awarded as one of the Top 4 PMOs of Europe in the 2021 PMO Global Awards, the largest and most prestigious global award for PMOs, Projects, and PMO professionals.

Included in the list of the Top 50 global thought leaders and influencers in project management by Thinkers360, holding currently the second position in the rank.

Connect with Ricardo on LinkedIn and Twitter.

ABOUT YOUR HOST

Joe Pusz started THE PMO SQUAD to bring real world PMO Leadership experience to the consulting space and to advocate for Project Management through his blog PMOJOE.com. The old saying is “Do what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life.” Following this mindset Joe left Corporate America in 2013 to start THE PMO SQUAD and work with fellow Natural Born Project Managers to advance Project Management Best Practices.

ABOUT OUR SPONSOR

THE PMO SQUAD focuses exclusively on PMO and Project Management consulting. Corporate America is full of Accidental Project Managers running projects who haven’t been trained to be PMs. To help solve this problem THE PMO SQUAD is on the Leading Edge with PMO As a Service. PMO As a Service allows our clients to focus on their respective core competencies while THE PMO SQUAD delivers Project Management expertise. Contact Joe at 678-591-7868. Follow The PMO Squad on LinkedIn, Twitter and Facebook.

Where do PMO Leaders go for Information, Learning, Networking and Services? The PMO Leader community has “Everything You Need to Become a Great PMO Leader”. One PMO World, One Community! Learn more about The PMO Leader – www.thepmoleader.com

Tagged With: artificial intelligence, growth mindset, project economy, project management, purpose-driven

Peter Chatel, The Chatel Consulting Group

March 30, 2021 by John Ray

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Peter Chatel, The Chatel Consulting Group (North Fulton Business Radio, Episode 344)

Peter Chatel, the founder of The Chatel Consulting Group, talks with host John Ray on why identifying purpose is the bedrock of effective leadership, the value of the 80/20 rule for leaders and their organizations, and much more. “North Fulton Business Radio” is produced virtually from the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® in Alpharetta.

The Chatel Consulting Group

The Chatel Consulting Group focuses on helping leaders and nonprofit organizations bring about transformational change that results in profoundly positive performance. They work with our clients to align people with purpose through a proprietary process. Their approach targets profoundly positive performance that can only be achieved when people work purposefully.

Their offerings guide clients along a pathway to high performance where leaders and teams experience deeper meaning through their work. The Chatel programs and projects help their clients assess current reality, define a detailed description of the desired future state so that plans are developed and implemented to close the gaps. They help clients establish clarity of purpose with which everyone in the organization can connect. When leaders align people with purpose and use Chatel’s processes that include creating compelling scorecards and candidly communicating results, their clients enter “the magic zone” of high performance.  They help our clients build and leverage mindsets, skillsets, and toolsets to achieve profoundly positive performance.

Using practical experience with the power of purpose, The Chatel Consulting Group helps clients focus on what matters most. Among others, clients have included: CQUEST, Clifton Sanctuary Ministries, Environment Sandy Springs, Grady Health Foundation, First Step Staffing, ASQ – The Global Voice of Quality, and Empowerment Resources Program.

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Peter Chatel, Founder, The Chatel Consulting Group

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Peter Card Chatel, The Chatel Consulting Group

In April 2015, after 22 years with The Coca-Cola Company, Peter announced the formation of his consulting, training and coaching practice, The Chatel Consulting Group. Since “re-wiring” from The Coca-Cola Company, Peter joined The John Maxwell Team and was certified as a Speaker, Trainer and Coach. In April 2017, Peter became one of less than 100 people in the world certified to train and coach The ONE Thing. In 2020, he became a Certified Purpose Mentor through JourneyLife.

In 2020, Peter shifted the focus of his consulting practice to support nonprofits. He helps nonprofits lead, plan, and execute with excellence through teamwork that is purpose-led, people-centered, process-driven, and performance-focused — something he calls Petership©.  Over the past 5 years, Peter has worked with hundreds of organizations to establish and nurture Purpose-driven and Resilient Cultures where staff are more engaged, productive, and loyal; as well as healthier and happier. His work with nonprofit leadership teams focuses on their collaboration skills so they can improve and expand their impact. Through 1-on-1 coaching, group coaching, and workshops, Peter gets people inspired and focused on the path to profoundly positive performance.

Peter is married to Sarah and they have a blended family of five children and live with their two dogs.

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Questions and Topics in this Interview:

  • What is the work that you do with nonprofits?
  • What do you mean by “Put Petership in Your Leadership”?
  • The Pareto Principle, or the 80/20 Rule.
  • What differentiates you from others who help nonprofit leaders?
  • What nonprofits do you serve?
  • What are the greatest challenges that nonprofits are facing in 2021?

North Fulton Business Radio” is hosted by John Ray and produced virtually from the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® in Alpharetta. You can find the full archive of shows by following this link. The show is available on all the major podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, iHeart Radio, Stitcher, TuneIn, and others.

Renasant Bank has humble roots, starting in 1904 as a $100,000 bank in a Lee County, Mississippi, bakery. Since then, Renasant has grown to become one of the Southeast’s strongest financial institutions with over $13 billion in assets and more than 190 banking, lending, wealth management and financial services offices in Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida. All of Renasant’s success stems from each of their banker’s commitment to investing in their communities as a way of better understanding the people they serve. At Renasant Bank, they understand you because they work and live alongside you every day.

Tagged With: Certified Purpose Mentor, Chatel Consulting Group, consulting, john maxwell coach, John Maxwell Team, Leadership, Nonprofit, Peter Card Chatel, Peter Chatel, Petership, purpose-driven, The Coca-Cola Company

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