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It’s 2021. So What? (Inspiring Women, Episode 29)

February 12, 2021 by John Ray

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It’s 2021. So What? (Inspiring Women, Episode 29)

On this edition of “Inspiring Women with Betty Collins,” Betty discusses her 2021 life statement, the difference between strength and courage, and more. “Inspiring Women” is presented by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

It’s a new year and it’s a new day.

But it’s the same stuff right now. It’s just a new year.

In the past, a new year generally meant new beginnings.

You reset.

It was this big sigh of relief.

But I think right now, it’s different.

In my reading over the holidays, I came across something. I decided to have my first life statement.

And I even went so far as to get a customized wall hanging of this statement. It’s in a big frame in my home office, where I spend about half of my time now. It’s a focal point when you walk in.

Being strong speaks of strength, but being courageous speaks to having a will to do more.

Last year was hard and exhausting. It seemed like everything was exhausting. But being strong portrays that you are confident. And you’re resilient. It’s an instinct that just kicks during all of those circumstances.

So I look at being strong. It speaks of strength. But being courageous speaks to having a will to do more and overcome.

The reality of 2021, nothing is different. That’s why this episode is titled as it is.

It’s just a different day.

This episode explores more about my 2021 life statement.

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

This is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA; Betty is a Director at Brady Ware & Company. Betty also serves as the Committee Chair for Empowering Women, and Director of the Brady Ware Women Initiative. Each episode is presented by Brady Ware & Company, committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. For more information, go to the Resources page at Brady Ware & Company.

TRANSCRIPT

[00:00:00] Betty Collins
So, here it is, it’s 2021. So what? It’s a new year, and it’s a new day, sure, but all I see is that we went from ’20 to ’21. It’s the same stuff, right now. It’s just a different time. To me, though, in the past, a new year generally meant new beginnings. You reset. It was this big sigh of relief. I think, right now, it’s a different time.
[00:00:28] Betty Collins
All the circumstances of life are the same, which we’re not going to talk a lot about today, so don’t worry, but COVID-19, and politics … I’m in tax season, and women are still not running the world. I mean, I could go on and on. I’m not a resolution person. They really don’t work, and I think they’re really irrelevant; even more now. Did you take all the time and energy to compile them, and execute a plan, and get excited. You’re all motivated, and it’s January 3rd, and you tell the world you’re doing it on all your social media. Let me ask you, have you already broken them, and given up? Probably so, because it’s February.
[00:01:08] Betty Collins
In my reading, I came across something between the holidays, where I could get away, that just really got hold of me. So, I decided to have my first life statement. I’ve always seen people do that around me. I thought, “Why do they have a life statement? That’s just too much for Betty Collins.” But, I said, “New tactics, results, and maybe some new good things.” I said, “Okay, I’m going to have a life statement.” I even went so far that I got a customized wall hanging, and made it. It’s big, framed, and it’s in my home office, where I spend about half of my time now. It’s the focal point when you walk in.
[00:01:51] Betty Collins
The first half of the statement is really about 2020, and then the second half is 2021. Here is the statement, and it’s not really mine. I stole it from someone else, and I don’t even know who I stole it from; it’s just somebody had it in their stuff … “Being strong speaks of strength, but being courageous speaks to having a will to do more.”
[00:02:14] Betty Collins
Strength, at some point, ends. We all get tired. It’s like the treadmill. We’re strong. We’re going. We’ve got it up on 4 to up a hill, but at some point, your strength runs out. I mean, you tire. But not your will. If you really want to finish the lap, the will’s what gets you through. So, strength was all about 2020, right? You had to have strength to get through that year. You had to be strong, but being courageous is going to go to a new level, and I think that’s what 2021 is all about. Again, your strength ends at some point, but your will does not.
[00:02:50] Betty Collins
As women, moms … We’re wives. Some of us are business owners, or in business; maybe you’re accountants, professionals. We all have to be strong. We all really had to be strong, again, to survive last year. It was hard and exhausting. It seemed like everything was exhausting. Being strong, though, portrays that you have this big competence, and you’re resilient. It’s an instinct that just kicks in under all of those circumstances. It speaks of your strength. Being courageous assumes also that you are strong, and confident, and resilient, and it’s about having the will.
[00:03:26] Betty Collins
So, an example – if you’re a shareholder, and you now became the business owner, you’re actually an owner, but now you’re on a board of directors making key decisions for your company. All that speaks of strength, and confidence, and resilience, and you made it there. But a courageous shareholder will vote no, when necessary. A courageous shareholder will talk about what nobody wants to talk about in the room, possibly.
[00:03:52] Betty Collins
I’m not going to get really political, but I will state this – in the midst of all the turmoil around this election, I’ll give two men credit about being courageous, and one of those was Mike Pence – one of the most loyal supporters of

President Trump – but when it came to certification day, he was courageous. He stood up; he did the certification. He probably didn’t want to do the certification. He probably didn’t want to say that Joe Biden had been certified, but he did it because that was what he was supposed to do as a vice president, and the president of the Senate.
[00:04:27] Betty Collins
On the same token, I look at Ted Cruz, who I don’t listen to a whole lot, and actually, my Bernie Sanders-loving son said, “You need to listen to this Ted Cruz speech,” because he also stood up courageously in the Senate. Somebody from the House, and the Senate said, “No, we need to have a debate.” That’s courageous. That’s courageous.
That’s not just being strong, and we’re here, and we’re in the Senate, and we do our job. So. I look at being strong speaks of strength, but being courageous speaks to having a will to do more and overcome.
[00:05:08] Betty Collins
The reality, nothing is different. That’s why this is called “It’s 2021. So What?” It’s just a different day. We’re going to talk about some of those things, about this life statement, about the things that I could spend my entire podcast on that life statement – and I may do one in the future for it because there’s a lot to that. How am I going to deal with 2021? What do I do with it? Well, it’s my story, and I’m going to control the content, and the narrative. That’s a definite. On 12-30-21, when I am having a really good dinner, probably at the Capital Grille. Somewhere having a really good steak. I’m going to say, “This was 2021. My story.”
[00:05:50] Betty Collins
I categorize my life like all good accountants, and hopefully, you do, too, because it’s a good thing. I usually do at the beginning of the year – I get it in order, but it’s a constant evolving document. It’s not just … These boxes change, and get bigger. Some get smaller – whatever you want to call it – these categories. I do it into four things. First is your spiritual life, your emotional life, your physical life. The fourth box is the routine of life. It just happens because the first three are done and thought through.
[00:06:22] Betty Collins
I choose a theme, and then I drill down because I want to accomplish each category and do it well, because they all balance my life. I keep it simple, believe it or not. It doesn’t have to all be done today, or by the end of tax season, even. It doesn’t have to be all in order and makes sense. It’s always certainly subject to change, especially in the environment we live today. You’re going to constantly pivot.
[00:06:50] Betty Collins
So, I’m looking at 2021 as my story. I control the content, and narrative. I’m going to box my life into these four categories. I’m not going to talk a lot about spiritual life. I think it’s very personal. In my spiritual life, I want- I’m a believer in God Almighty. The sun comes up every day, and it sets, and Betty Collins has nothing to do with that. I just want to turn chaos into order by doing that- let God do the super, and let Betty Collins do the natural. That’s enough. Done. It’s pretty easy, right?
[00:07:21] Betty Collins
Physical, my physical eating pie; eating bagels with cream cheese – all the things I want to do. I’m going to stop talking, and do the work. So, I’ve come up with different things. I did buy one of those [inaudible] for under my feet at work, so I can just keep moving, somehow, because, guess what? I don’t go to the gym. I have a membership, and I don’t go. I’m going to stop talking about it. It’s just time to take care of it. And I’m not going to get into a big plan, and write this, and have apps, and make it crazy. I’m just going to stop talking about it and do what I need to do.
[00:07:53] Betty Collins
Emotionally, and this is probably my biggest challenge, and I think it’s women’s biggest challenge, emotional … This is my theme: “Know the difference between branches, and sticks.” I am going to do a podcast on that. I made that decision because I’ve had more of people resonate to that line. What does that really mean? Well, I’ll give you the scenario small – the branches are connected to a tree, which is rooted. So, there is real life there. You’ve got to know what gives life to you and is something that will energize you. Sticks, they’re on the ground. I have them all over my yard because I love trees, and they’re good for firewood. That’s what they’re good for. They’re dead. They don’t have any more life in them. We have a ton of those twigs in our life. So, emotionally, I don’t need that.
[00:08:44] Betty Collins
Then, the routine of life. If the three things of spiritual, physical, and emotional are in order, it’s just the logistics. That’s all it is. So, when you are looking at your three things and you know that you’re successful, and routine of life is working, go back and look on your calendar for the last week, and it will show what you did. It’ll show how you were. What would a perfect day, or week look like? Write it down, and then work towards achieving it. Then again, look back on your calendar, because that’s going to tell you if you’re successful.
[00:09:21] Betty Collins
So, spiritual, physical, emotional, and then just routine of life – it all comes together. That’s how I’m going to deal with 2021, and that’s how I’m going to write my story. Hopefully, it will be a celebration at the end. What does this

have to do with business? Well, if Betty Collins is not in order, it has a lot to do with business. And I would tell you this – this podcast is to inspire women. It’s to keep learning, growing, and advancing, and it’s about enhancing your communication skills, building leadership, growing your business, and feeling inspired.
[00:09:50] Betty Collins
So, I would encourage you, as this podcast is called, “It’s 2021. So What?” I also have a podcast called “Now What?” It was two series, and it really breaks down your business life of getting that in order, and the things that you have to continue to do. The biggest thing, of course, is ask the question: Now what? It’s a question you’re always going to probably be asking and should be asking. My theory in life now is if you don’t ask questions, you will not have answers. That’s how I’m going to deal with this year.
[00:10:23] Betty Collins
When I go back to two things, just to give you a snippet of the branches, and the sticks, an example of that – in our environment, today, there’s a lot of twigs that you need to identify in your life. I will use this as an example. Again, I don’t mean to be political, but I think it’s good. There are people who truly have an adoration, and there are people who truly do not like, in fact, hate President Donald Trump. Do you understand the obsession either way is a twig? We’re going to talk more about that because if it’s taking from you, it’s dead on the ground, and needs to go in the fire. It’s great firewood. If it’s giving you life, great. Those are things that I think will be key to success in your challenging year that’s coming- that’s here.
[00:11:20] Betty Collins
So, challenges for all of you – two things to help you get through … Stretch goals, get them in your life. I just spent a two-day retreat with Brady Ware, and the guy kept saying, “Stretch goals.” I’m like, “Is he talking about, like, stretching, or is he talking about stretch goals?” It kind of speaks for itself. He made it very clear – only have two, or three, or maybe even just one, but something that is going to stretch you. It simply is a target that’s above what is expected to be accomplished.
[00:11:53] Betty Collins
There’s really a lot about stretch goals on the internet when you Google it, so when you’re trying to get the four components in your life together, and balanced, and defined, and all those things, I would also challenge you to get some stretch goals in your life. And it’s going to be about productive discomfort. It’s going to be about building confidence because you’re achieving things, so your confidence goes up. It’s helping to avoid the catastrophic, that unexpected. Then, it’s that sense of control, bringing that order into chaos, which I talked about.
[00:12:32] Betty Collins
The other thing, when I’m telling- when I’m challenging you to set some things in front of you and keep it simple – two to three stretch goals, maybe – small things can generate into big things. My goal this year is to not lose all my weight by tax season’s over, so I can just go have a fun vacation and eat all summer. That is not my goal. My goal is that if I take 52 weeks, and say 30 pounds – I want to talk about my 30-pound weight loss next December. That’s just small things, all year, that will accomplish a big.
[00:13:04] Betty Collins
Here’s another great example of the small things generate big things. Maybe that’s where you need to be, right now. I think of a really good example of that is Niagara Falls cable cars. There’s a car, if you’ve ever gone up there, that goes across Niagara Falls. Well, back in the 1800s, they decided – we’re going to build a cable. We’ve got to get something from one side of the Falls to the other. This is the late 1800s. They didn’t have the things we have today. So, they started with a very small concept.
[00:13:42] Betty Collins
I think it actually was a young person who said, “Let’s fly a kite across, and the wind will take it over, and let’s see if we can get it somehow across. We’ll be on the other side to catch the kite.” They mastered that – simple as flying a kite. They said, “Well, if we can get the kite to work like that, let’s modify the kite, and let’s add some cable to it; something that’s heavier than string.”
[00:14:08] Betty Collins
They kept modifying it til the right cable was going to be able to get across. Well, now we’ve got to have parts go across. So, then they had to have kites with the right cabling to get the part across. Slowly, over time, these little things all ended up being a cable across Niagara Falls, in the late 1800s. That was just taking some small things that, at the end of the day, generated some big things.
[00:14:35] Betty Collins
So, I would tell you, in doing all of your categorizing, and stretching, think of small things that can do it. Today it’s 2021. So what? It’s your story. Control the content. Control the narrative for the year by using these very simple, simple tactics. It’s one day at a time. I’m Betty Collins, and I’m so glad you joined me today. Inspiring women, it’s what I do. I leave you with this – “Being strong speaks of strength, but being courageous speaks to having a will to do more and overcome.”

 

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Now What?, Part 2; An Interview with Betty Clark, CPMedia & Marketing (Inspiring Women, Episode 28)

December 16, 2020 by John Ray

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On this edition of “Inspiring Women with Betty Collins,” Betty continues her consideration of lessons learned in 2020 begun in the last episode. She is joined by Betty Clark of CPMedia & Marketing, who offers her perspective on how marketing & advertising are changing. “Inspiring Women” is presented by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

2020. It’s not quite over. But Now What?

It’s a question I think we should be asking pretty constantly as we navigate through these times.

In this episode, we’re going to talk a little bit about reflection and embracing the last two actions from my Now What, Pt 1 episode, Assessing and Moving.

The basics of business haven’t changed through this time. And one of those basics is marketing.

I work with Betty Clark of CPMedia with my marketing. My interview with her covers a lot of ground. I know you there lots of marketing tips you will come away with from this interview. Don’t hesitate to contact her, and tell her you heard my interview with her. She can be found at CPMedia & Marketing.

As Betty Clark explains about CPMedia:

CPM has been in business for close to 30 years now. Throughout the years, we’ve discovered that a lot of businesses just simply lack the time and expertise in marketing their company in a way that’s going to get the results and the phones to ring. At CPM, we take a company’s budget and their goals and we use our marketing expertise to create a marketing plan. Then we implement them through that plan, through the use of traditional and digital advertising tactics, so a business can stand out from their competition and they can get more leads, which is going to turn into customers.

Ultimately, you’ve got to embrace the new day. It’s here, ready or not. It’s been here; it’s not gone. This has been hard for me. This has been one of the toughest things for me to grasp as a business owner, as a mom, as a wife, as a church member, any of it.

It’s been hard.

I don’t want this new day. I still don’t want this new day, but as we know, “life is like a box of chocolates.”

I’ve always been amazed at the resilience of the people in our country. I believe that if you keep asking Now What? and be ahead of it, no matter how the year closes and what the New Year brings, I think that you will have some success that you will really enjoy your life.

After you listen to this episode, go to www.BradyWare.com and look up Betty Collins, my podcast will be right there. There will be handouts that summarize all this.

I’d love to talk to you about it, because it’s something that I’m passionate about. Because when the marketplace works in this country, the country works. Right now, it needs businesses to work. It needs employers to have success.

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

This is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA; Betty is a Director at Brady Ware & Company. Betty also serves as the Committee Chair for Empowering Women, and Director of the Brady Ware Women Initiative. Each episode is presented by Brady Ware & Company, committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. Other episodes of “Inspiring Women” can be found here.

Show Transcript

Betty Collins: This is Betty Collins, and today, we’re doing part two of Now What?, which is something I put together after the year we’ve had with 2020; it’s not quite over, but Now What? is a question I think we should be asking pretty constant as we navigate through these times. When we talked first, I said it was all action by you; knowing, assessing, moving. Today, we’re going to talk a little bit about reflection and embracing the last two actions. When we talked about knowing the basics of business- and by the way, this is on my website that you can get these handouts related to it, gives you an overview, but we talked about the basics of business. That hasn’t changed. Just how we’re doing business has changed. Just how we’re living our lives have changed. The basics are still there. So, what are those? Revenue in customers, expenses, debt, cash flow, who our advisors and partners are, versus our transaction vendors, marketing and technology and company structuring. We talked about those things, went into a lot of detail about that.

Betty Collins: Then we assessed; assess the damage. The tornado came through and now, we’re standing, going, “Do we have a house left or are we going to rebuild?” But it’s all about moving forward, not just assessing and planning. We talked about hope is not a strategy, so you can’t just hope it all comes together. We talked a lot about your financial position and profitability … Debt, and that life will go on beyond 2020. One of the things I didn’t spend a lot of time in on the last part one of Now What? is the marketing and technology area. I’m fortunate enough, I get to work a lot with Betty Clark, CPMedia and she is a marketing person who has had to say, “Wow, how do I help my clients market? What is it that they need?” She had to do a lot of pivoting with thinking in how she’s gotten put together. I’m going to interview her next, and we’re just going to talk about marketing today, versus marketing in February, 2020; two very, very different things.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: As we’re in this time of Now What?, every business needs to be asking now what?, as I’ve talked about, with the basics of business; they haven’t changed. One of those basics are marketing and technology. For me, I really had to dig into this because I’m one who’s out in the marketplace. I’m either public speaking, I’m either at an event, I’m involved with different boards where I get opportunity. So, for me, I’ve never had to do a lot internally, back here. I don’t look at- so, I’ve really had to do the pivot thing and figure it out. I worked with Betty Clark of CPMedia in marketing, and we just started putting together a plan. Really, it’s stuff that … It’s not like it’s rocket science necessarily, and it’s stuff I know, but putting it all together in a plan that bounds it all is big. I want her to talk to us today about Now What? in marketing and technology. Betty, welcome to the program. Appreciate you being here. I want you to tell us a little bit about CPMedia and marketing. Tell us what you do.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: Well, CPM has been in business for close to 30 years now. Throughout the years, we’ve discovered that a lot of businesses just simply lack the time and expertise in marketing their company in a way that’s going to get the results and the phones to ring. At CPM, we take a company’s budget and their goals and we use our marketing expertise to create a marketing plan. Then we implement them through that plan, through the use of traditional and digital advertising tactics, so a business can stand out from their competition and they can get more leads, which is going to turn into customers.

Betty Collins: Well, I know for me, I’m a CPA, so marketing is not coming natural to me. It doesn’t make sense to me. I think if I just get out there and sell myself, it’s all good, which just isn’t the case. This plan was what I had to really put together. Really, 2020 forced me to do that. I really didn’t have a plan before. I was just doing a bunch of things all over the place and we consolidated that. For me, every business and industry has witnessed a change. What I do in business hasn’t changed. It’s how I do it; that’s what’s changed. Accountants don’t change very, very easily, so. I’m assuming marketing is no different. You’ve witnessed this change. Tell us about that.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: Well, actually, I would say that marketing has not changed, but certainly, the advertising tactics have evolved. When I first started my career, the primary way to market any business was through the Yellow Pages or traditional media vehicles like the newspaper and running ads on billboards, TV and radio. Then throughout the years, it evolved to include cable, the internet, social media and all the digital advertising elements that are out there. With this pandemic and 2020, we’ve had to approach target audiences in a more digital world, versus a traditional world.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: People spend more time now on their computers, their smartphones, their smart TVs, so we look at advertising and marketing opportunities, those vehicles instead. The marketing basics still remain the same. Companies need to identify their ideal client. They need to know their core message. They need to make certain that their image matches their message. They need to have products and services in place for every stage of a client’s development. Marketing material should be one that educates people, and they need to make certain that their website is one that can work 24 hours, seven days a week, and plus, they need to get their entire team on board with their marketing efforts.

Betty Collins: I know for myself, when we were devising my plan and we’re still- it’s still evolving. It’s always going to keep changing because opportunities change. One of the things that was surprising to me was how much I needed my database now, because I’m not out there and how incorrect and a mess it was. It ends up I have a thousand people and then I did- it’s not even a thousand people, which is overwhelming, but a thousand contacts sorted by industry or sorted by ownership or doing different than- I mean, I’ve now got that put together. I wouldn’t have been messing with that. I just would have hoped I could email them or, “Let’s send out a mass whatever,” and 50 emails come back. It’s forced me to go back to basics so that I can use them, though maybe in a different way. A lot of the technology, to me, has been here.

Betty Collins: Zoom has been here, but now we’re all using it. I got this stupid folder on my desk that has seven ways to get on a call because everyone’s different. People are now using things that have been in existence. It’s just been interesting, for sure. It’s helped me realize what I should be going after, and it is. I’m sticking with basics like you’re talking about, so we don’t have to get crazy about it. I can’t speak right now and I can’t go to events right now, so I have to have something that works. That’s been very helpful to take that. What do you think a business should do, going forward, in 2021? We’re all waiting for 2021. We all want that new year.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: Can you imagine what New Year’s Eve is going to be like? It’s going to be a blast. Just like you, everyone should create a plan. Just like we had to create a plan for you. In doing so, now is the time to make sure that all your programs, your people, your technology, that everything is working well and in tip-top condition, and everybody knows how to utilize all the digital aspects that are out there, like Zoom.

Betty Collins: Because we’re not going back. We’re not going back.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: That’s right. It will never be the- it won’t be the same. Then you also need to be creative and innovative in your marketing mix, just like we, again, using you as an example, like we did with you. Let’s look at different ways that we can market the Betty Collins when it’s not face to face. Businesses need to review their objectives, see how well they can achieve them without the programs that they were forced to eliminate in 2020. Perhaps the programs that were replaced with the traditional ones that they have been using, perhaps are more profitable, that they have found out that the ROI was better. That would be one to continue on for 2021.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: Create a list of possibilities to explore. There’s many things that still haven’t been tried yet, and how to do things. Then once you have that plan in place, then begin to prioritize. That, look what is currently running your budgets and maybe you need this for 2021. You might need to shift some dollars around or look at your advertising message that’s currently running. Now’s the time to evaluate the language that is being used, the images, and perhaps that right now, you’re using a picture with lots of people touching one another, being hugging or close to one another. I would suggest changing that and show a little social distancing.

Betty Collins: I was at a restaurant the other night and they requested that because you could obviously have your mask up while you’re eating, they did not want pictures taken at the restaurant- because people do that. They take pictures of their food, everyone comes close in the booth, and they said, “Please don’t do that,” and put it out there. If you’re going to have a picture taken, we want you to have a mask on, because they want that image of, “We’re practicing things safely here.”

Betty Clark, CPMedia: I’ve not ever heard of that.

Betty Collins: Well, I was there and that’s what they did.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: I don’t know if I would go that far, but-.

Betty Collins: They were thinking about their image. That’s what you’re saying.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: Yes, that you need to think that. I mean- and people want comfort and security. They want to feel secure and safe in whatever they do. It doesn’t matter what kind of business you are, you have that ability to provide that to everyone.

Betty Collins: People are much more aware of surroundings now, that’s definite. They probably are looking at what your image is, much differently, just because they are more aware.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: I would also suggest that everyone take a hard look at their target audience. What you have been using has your ideal client before. Perhaps, your ideal client that has changed. I’m assuming that it has and that the same benefits don’t apply right now as they used to. You need to evaluate that and also, see what your competitors are doing; that’s key. See what their position has been and what actions that they’re taking, so you’re able to to counter that. Certainly, nobody knows what’s going to happen in the future. I wish that we all did, but we do know that it- and I think we all discovered this, this year, that when you have a plan in place, that it’s easy to do the pivot and make some changes. But you need to have a clearly defined communications strategy and have that innovation.

Betty Collins: Because for me, and probably most people, as we’re doing this Now What?, now what? What I do for people is no different than what I did in February, as I did in March of this past year.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: They still have those same needs.

Betty Collins: They still have those same needs. I have identified, “Here’s,”- because maybe they didn’t maybe know that I did these things, too. It was opportunity to go, “Hey, I can do this, too, for you during this time, but I can do this all the time.” It’s not that I’m not doing the basics in the same business, it’s just how I’m doing it. Even, I’ve been involved with some online events tomorrow. I’m involved with one, and they don’t want this to be one big Zoom call, because everyone did that at first, and all these people who had events trying to do an event online, it was a big Zoom call. Where they’re doing it- no, you’re at the event and the precision of people coming on and off and the backgrounds, all of it. I mean- so, they’re just doing it differently now, even within this year of, “Hey, we can do a virtual summit.” No, it’s a big Zoom call. Or we can do a virtual summit that really looks like you’re there. The planning helps. It has really helped me for sure, which is why I wanted you to be on today’s. We’re talking about these basic businesses. Let’s close with this, is there anything they shouldn’t do?

Betty Clark, CPMedia: Ah, yes. Doing nothing.

Betty Collins: Doing nothing. Hope is not a strategy, and by the way, it’s not coming back. We changed.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: We all have evolved and we need to look at the pandemic situation as an opportunity, not as a challenge or an obstacle. Yes, it’s certainly closed some doors, but it has opened others. As we know that by having a well-organized plan going into 2021, knowing that you might have to adjust some things, as they ebb and flow, you’re going to be fine.

Betty Collins: Well, I appreciate you coming today and talking with this part of the Now What? It’s a huge area. I didn’t feel competent to come and talk about it. It’s a pretty specialized area, and so, I appreciate you coming. How can people reach you? What’s your website?

Betty Clark, CPMedia: They can reach me at CPMedia.com, or BClark, C-L-A-R-K, at CPMedia.com.

Betty Collins: Great. Well, thank you, and hopefully, we will get to 2021 first and have a big celebration on New Year’s Eve this year and keep moving forward, because it’s not a matter of what if, it’s a matter of when.

Betty Clark, CPMedia: That’s [CROSSTALK].

Betty Collins: We have to ask the question, now what? Thank you, Betty. I so appreciate you coming on today and talking about the marketing and technology aspects of things. I know you’ve been working with me personally on just, ‘how do I market myself?’ Because it’s been pretty tough when I’m a person who gets on stage and speaks, and I’m at events and I- you might chair boards for nonprofit organizations where there’s a lot going on. I’m out in that marketplace and I haven’t been able to do that. You’ve been helping me with understanding what other capabilities and avenues that I have. We’re going to finish- first, we know the basics. We assess and keep moving, and now we’re going to reflect.

Betty Collins: Reflecting, I’m not sure that I want you to think this is sitting in a dark room humming and meditating. I guess it could be; maybe that would work for you. I think many people, when you go, “Let’s reflect, let’s go back, doing,”- and it’s like, “Do we really have to do that?” “Yeah, you do.” Because this was a moment where you probably learned a lot, and so, you got to take that knowledge that you learned and you got to apply it. You got to reflect. Reflecting, to me, is you’re giving some really intentional, serious thoughts to the past- past being this year, so that you can make sure the present and the future are successful. Because remember, again, I’ve said, it’s not a matter of if, it’s a matter of what. COVID-19 and a pandemic is pretty major, but there’s other things. There’s recessions. I’ve sat through several of them since 9/11. There’s things that- health, all the sudden. There’s things of the market bottoms out. It’s the if … It’s not a matter if, it’s a matter of when.

Betty Collins: You have to go back to February 2020. I did this the other day because I was going through, looking for who I’d met with through the year and who I still needed to meet with. I’m looking at my calendar in January and February going, “Oh man, I forgot I got to do all those things and have all that time,” but when I went back and then, of course, you get to March and April’s calendar, it looked completely different, even May. I look back at what worked. I dealt with the would’ve, coulda, shoulda. You have to do that and then you got to critique your performance.

Betty Collins: Some people did really well. Most of us gained weight, but there are those few that said, “This is going to be my opportunity. I can exercise because I’m working at home and I can actually go down to my basement and work out in my gym. I can eat better,” although we are all just buying comfort food, I think. The would’ve and the could’ve been the should’ve, identify those; it’s really important. Critique your performance, so that you can take that and use it in the future. There’s been some really big success stories coming out of COVID-19 with all kinds of industries. Reflect on that past so you can impact your present and your future.

Betty Collins: You got to ask the question, “What’s going to- what will return to the way the things they were, and what is not coming back?” Many things will never be the same. I don’t know that that’s not bad. I like the dividers in the restaurants now. I like that. It cuts down sound, yet the restaurant’s full because they put up dividers. By the way, I haven’t been sick all year and I wonder if it’s because I’m not getting someone else’s germs and they’re not getting mine.

Betty Collins: I love now, the flexibility of my office. I didn’t like it at first. I did not embrace it. I did not think that it was good. I wanted everyone here. I wanted the parking lot full. I like the buzz of the office. That’s not happening, but I do now work out of my house and I have a system and liking it. Quite frankly, I love less traffic. I crave personal connection, so please, don’t get me wrong. We’re off a long way from doing that. In your business, you pivoted- tired of that word. You got to look back and go, “We pivoted. It worked. We’re going to pivot again. We’re going to pivot again and we’re going to pivot again.” I look at restaurants and now, I don’t think curbside service is ever going away. You know why? Because I like it.

Betty Collins: The customer likes that everything’s done. Someone comes out to my car and then gives me a bag. I love it. More online shopping continues to happen; that was already happening. Bank branches are closing. People are finding a way to deposit their checks as calling their phone. Works, right? Telemedicine, why would we go back? Man, you could just call your doctor and in eight minutes, somebody will be on screen with you, especially when it’s a common cold or something minor. I just don’t see some of those good things changing. Zoom is tough. Virtual events are not ideal right now. We’re still all adapting, but I guarantee you, somebody is going to come up with a way to make that appealing. I guarantee you that’s going to come.

Betty Collins: You have to look into your business and be realistic of what’s not coming back. You have to sit and go, “Hoping for the good old days, not a strategy.” You have to really identify probably, what isn’t going to come back. Then, is your competition winning because they did change and or they embraced the change and they’re looking at this as this isn’t going to be temporary? You have to be- you have to ask yourself, “Am I ready for what is not coming back?” Then there’s the, “Am I, will I or can I adjust accordingly?” I think most people have already done some of that, but some of us are still not. By the way, we’re probably going to have to still do a bunch of “Am I, will I or can I adjust?” If you don’t adjust, you’ll be left behind. You may not need to do a lot of that, but you probably will be left behind. Curbside is great for fast food and casual dining. They’re busting it, but fine dining, struggling.

Betty Collins: That’s why- I talked earlier in my podcast, part one of this is Jeff Ruby’s Restaurants. It’s about amazing steak, but it’s also about the experience of going there. They just do a fantastic job. I’m not going to buy an expensive steak and heat it up in the microwave. They were brilliant. They came up with, “Here’s your steaks, choose them.” You get so many. “Here’s your salad, it’s tossed. Here’s your bread. Just warm it. Here’s your mac and cheese, ready to go. Desserts already done. All you have to do is cook your steaks.” Well, I don’t want to cook $100 steaks and burn them, so they sent a video saying, “Here’s how you cook them and here’s the seasoning.” We did that in April or May, just for something different. We ate them out on our deck with some friends and we loved it.

Betty Collins: We had thirty minutes in this entire meal, besides going to pick it up. They just … You talk about pivoting, that’s brilliant. That was a great way to go. I had another place where I saw they were trying to do the same thing and they sent you baked potatoes. I can do baked potatoes, but I can’t make Jeff Ruby mac and cheese. They just did it right. They took signature products and said, “It’s ready to go, put it in the oven for thirty minutes.” Am I, will I or can I adjust accordingly? Adjustment’s a must, but new revenue streams are only half of it; that’s only half of the adjustment. So is the expense side. Just as I was saying in my company, the travel, the meal costs have gone down really, really big. For accountants, we’re like, “Yay, we’re spending less on that,” but that’s why we- that’s what got us into the marketplace where we met new people, new connections and build relationships. That’s going to have some effect, so we got to adjust accordingly. What do we replace that with? It’s probably going to be a cost that we’re not even anticipating, but we need to be saying, “Can we adjust to that? Am I, will I or can I?” It’s not too late to adjust your thinking. It will pass; it’s not really an option.

Betty Collins: How do you adapt to the changes? You’ve got to have a long-term plan. Many, many people do budgets, and they think that it’s the long-term plan. It really goes beyond that. I think we’ve learned something in that, for sure. Hopefully, in our country, we’ll make a lot more things here. We’ve learned that, you know what? We need to produce this stuff here so that when we have a pandemic or we have something that breaks out, we have the product right here. We’re not waiting and we’re not having to make emergency, “Wherever, someone please make masks.” Now, we’re just going to have lots of masks, and we’re going to make them here because we saw a need that could continue on.” We need to take a long-term team approach, not just you.

Betty Collins: Brady Ware really did well because our team got involved with the changes that we needed to make. Our team got involved with the new products that we were selling. Our team had to learn and educate and do. It’s going to be continual learning because of the environment we’re in. If you did not lead the way in changing, then you know what? Look at your competition and look at success around you and get your gear going, because we’re a long way from being done, I think, in this environment. It’s not too late, but you got to have a long-term plan. It just isn’t, “We survived it. We got through PPP, we spent our PPP cash and sales are starting to come back.” You got to have a long-term plan. What opportunities are being created because of the changes? What am I missing out on? I think that’s the most important thing your team sits and does.

Betty Collins: I just do. Brady Ware really seized the moments from the beginning, but it took top leadership. It took the board. We were ahead of the game from the beginning. In our industry, knowledge is what you need, so education and training of our team was huge. We knew that our whole tax season year was crazily broken up and stressful. It was a long seven months, six months. You had t- it just took long hours, too, but you got to look for those opportunities in your industry. Instead of giving someone steak to heat up, give them the real steak with the YouTube video on how to cook the steak with the seasoning. Totally different service.

Betty Collins: You have to get real information in real time to seize new opportunities. The guy that makes the pillows from Minnesota, he immediately went, “I doubt people are going to buy pillows,” so he made masks. He started ventilators, I think, as well, because- but he was doing it based on real time, real need, act now, no time for planning, no time for a retreat to go talk about it. That takes real information, real time. You need to know that. So, how do you do that? Well, your industry probably has associations. There’s government representatives called Senators, and you need to be really involved with them now. I think we’ve all learned that local leadership counts because they’re making decisions right now, that are huge, so be engaged with them. There’s a ton of new regulation, especially for certain industries. If you’re a hair salon, you better know. If you’re a restaurant, you better know. If you’re a CPA, you better know all of the stuff that rapidly got passed, because your clients want to know. Shoot, when stuff passed on a Friday afternoon, they were called on a Saturday morning. You have to be involved with real information in real time.

Betty Collins: Just like the restaurants, they were- they closed and they had to figure out how to stay open. They also had to drive their industry with ideas and help each other. Then they definitely were at the pulse with the government. Cameron Mitchell in Ohio was definitely on a committee with DeWine’s team, to go. This is what we need to do as a restaurant. What a great guy, to do that. I mean, he went from, “I built this whole thing. I know what it’s like to be a small business owner and a large one.” To know the opportunities, you have to understand what your client needs and then you learn to service it. You have to see the need that is not being met. That is basics 101 economics. See the need that is not being met and you won’t be able to sell enough. It’s not always easy.

Betty Collins: The last thing, we talk about knowing, assessing, moving and reflection. The last thing you got to do, sorry, it’s all action. You’ve got to embrace the new day. It’s here, ready or not. It’s been here; it’s not gone. This has been hard for me. This has been one of the toughest things for me to grasp as a business owner, as a mom, as a wife, as a church member, any of it. It’s been hard. I don’t want this new day. I still don’t want this new day, but as we know, life is like a box of chocolates, as I will take. We all know what that means. Part of a success is answering now what? by embracing the new moment. How do I deal with the fatigue of COVID-19?

Betty Collins: I will tell you, March and April were exhausting for me and by the end of May, I just had to get away. That was the turning point in my fatigue. I got away. Well, how do you do that when you can’t go anywhere? You can. You take a risk when you go, and I did. I took a risk and I flew somewhere that was very quiet and in the middle of nowhere, but I did certain other things, too. I started just working 40 hours a week and shutting my phone down because it was exhausting. Everybody was exhausted. I started enjoying more outside. It was amazing how many outside people were walking our streets in Gahanna. Everybody was out walking. I hired a personal trainer because of just weight and laziness. I rested on my weekends and said, “Okay. It’s getting done, I’m going to do it.” I made sure my office at home was something I liked to go into. It wasn’t just some table and chairs from the basement. It motivated me a little bit more, but I did go on vacation to a secluded place. I took a weekend in Ohio and focused on parks and simple trails, and good food and a really good friend.

Betty Collins: We just- those are the things that got me away. Those are the things that helped me with the fatigue of COVID-19. It doesn’t matter what it is, whether it’s COVID-19 or whatever the circumstance you’re in, you have to, sometimes. You got to get away from the circumstance. How do I stay positive and energized? I’m going to say this very, very clearly. I shut off Facebook, deleted my Twitter account, watch very, very minimal news. I’m very selective who I get my news from, but I know I need to be informed, especially in the time that we live. I chose crosswords over negative and awful TV and movies that are intense, because I didn’t [LAUGHTER], and time by myself became part of my routine.

Betty Collins: Sometimes, the time by myself was too much, actually, because I miss the marketplace. But then I found, “I can enjoy this.” I also looked at the very core of who I was during this new day. I think we- a lot of us have, whether it’s your family, or your faith, causes, focus on that. It probably will energize you. It’s not business as usual, and you got to look at the mindset and skills that you need, like the mindset of that kid who had a fish, who said it was for bait, not just eating for today and throwing out. Plenty of Zoom in webinars for sure on all these topics to the point of nauseum, probably. But there’s a lot of good free Zoom webinars right now and YouTube videos that can pull you out of some of this stuff. I would, “How do you stay positive and energized?” Ask other people what they’re doing to stay positive and energized. You’ll be amazed and then you got to do it.

Betty Collins: This is year has infected us all, personally, not just in our business, in our careers, but in our personal lives from distancing with our families and all of that, to not being able to maybe go to your church and you’re seeing it on Zoom, to just the uncertainties. I’ve always been amazed at the resilience of the people in our country. I believe that if you keep asking now what? and be ahead of it, no matter how the year closes and what the New Year brings, I think that you will have some success that you will really enjoy in your life. Again, on my web page, we have these handouts that show you my outline and all those lovely questions that I told you to ask yourself on knowing the basics. I’m Betty Collins. Have a great day.

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Now What?, Part 1 (Inspiring Women, Episode 27)

November 11, 2020 by John Ray

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Now What?, Part 1 (Inspiring Women, Episode 27)

Now what? It’s a question many business owners are asking after a year like no other in 2020. Betty Collins, host of Inspiring Women, answers this question with a call to tend to business basics. “Inspiring Women” is presented by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

We ended this decade on such a high note. I began 2020 with a lot of optimism. I didn’t think anything could get in our way; the marketplace was just roaring, and at this amazing speed. Not only Wall Street, but also Main Street, they were just hitting records.

But by the 1st of March and as March unfolded, I’m attending a board meeting at Brady Ware, where I’m on the board of directors to discuss corona; not the beer, but the coronavirus, and later renamed, of course, COVID-19. Our CEOs were saying, “How is this going to affect our business and should we be making plans?” I thought, “What for? What would we need to possibly do with this?”

But but we were ahead of the game, and on March 16 we were sending our employees home and restructuring how we did business. We were certainly not out of business, but we were certainly doing it differently.

Life absolutely stopped on a dime.

CPAs were considered essential, and so, I was in our office. There was no traffic. There was no one in the parking lot. I was here for mail and phones and different things while our people were home, safe. It was a lot of craziness; new wardrobes of masks and gloves; and “Wine with DeWine” became a big thing in Ohio.

We had endless days of phone calls. I felt like they would never end, especially in that first 30 days. Overwhelming legislation started taking place, and the word unprecedented – which I can hardly take – I have changed it to ‘for such a time as this’. It sounds better than unprecedented times.

I’m asking the question every day, now what?

As a business owner and leader, I was amazed, as usual, at the resilience of the marketplace, not just in Columbus, but in the country.

The resilience of business owners, and our leadership from the federal to the state, to local levels. We go from this roaring speed to an absolute, screeching halt.

And even so, we jump in, as opposed to jump off.

We learn, we read, we apply for dollars, we use the word “pivot” every day. But not just for business, our personal life too.

By mid-year, the roller coaster ride had slowed down for some businesses and owners. We were getting a little more comfortable, till those things called “spikes” came into play. Then June and July brought assessing the damage. It’s like, “The tornado went through. Now, what do I have?”

The impact was both negative and positive. I think many of my clients are amazed at how they’re doing.

I think others are devastated.

But whether you are devastated or the opportunity was just amazing, we’re tired. We’re all tired, I think.

So, now what?

Fortunately, the basics of business have not gone anywhere, it’s just the approach. In our personal lives, I think it’s been a more of an assessment of what is important.

We start by taking a deep breath and focusing, and we put our energy into actions. I’m going to talk about these actions you need take…

  • Know
  • Assess
  • Move
  • Reflect
  • Embrace

These are all actions, and it means you have to do something.

Download these handouts after you listen to this podcast.

I’d love to talk to you about it, because it’s something that I’m passionate about. Because when the marketplace works in this country, the country works. Right now, it needs businesses to work. It needs employers to have success.

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

This is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA; Betty is a Director at Brady Ware & Company. Betty also serves as the Committee Chair for Empowering Women, and Director of the Brady Ware Women Initiative. Each episode is presented by Brady Ware & Company, committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. Other episodes of “Inspiring Women” can be found here.

Show Transcript

Betty Collins: I’m Betty Collins and this is my podcast. Like so many podcasts and now, Zoom in virtual events and all the stuff that keeps taking place, it’s the same stuff. Hopefully, today, I’m going to give you some really, really good information. It’s going to be part one of two and it’s called Now What? Now What? is a question I think we’re going to ask a lot of.

We ended this decade on such a high note. I began 2020 with a lot of optimism. I didn’t think anything could get in our way; the marketplace was just roaring, and at this amazing speed. Not only Wall Street, but also Main Street, they’re just hitting records, people’s confidence. It was just a great, great way to end the year 2020 and come into the next. Yet, across the world, there was this fire is starting to take hold and evolve. But that was across the world, it wasn’t here. Here I am, in 2020, and it’s February 29th, which is a leap year. My husband’s birthday is that day. We were at one of our favorite places, Jeff Ruby’s, and it’s just really good steak, food, great experience, opening gifts.

Betty Collins: I surprised him with his sisters being there and we just had a great time on his birthday. We both even said that weekend, “Life could not be better,” but by the 1st of March and as March unfolded, I’m attending a board meeting at Brady, where I’m on the board of directors to discuss Corona; not the beer, but the Corona virus, and later renamed, of course, COVID-19. Our CEOs were saying, “How is this going to affect our business and should we be making plans?” I thought, “What for? What would we need to possibly do with this?” But but we were ahead of the game, and on March 16, the deadline, by the way, for us, we were sending our employees home and restructuring how we did business. We were certainly not out of business, but we were certainly doing it differently. So much for enjoying steak. I’m trying to just find ground beef for tacos at Kroger’s. Not happening. Life absolutely stopped on a dime.

Betty Collins: It didn’t matter if it was work, church, dining out, everything changed. That buzz of the marketplace became empty parking lots. I did come to work still, every day. CPAs were considered essential, and so, I was here and there was no traffic and there was no one in the parking lot. I was here for mail and phones and different things while our people were home, safe. It was a lot and lot of craziness; new wardrobes of masks and gloves and Wine with DeWine became a big thing in Ohio. We had endless days of phone calls. I felt like they would never end, especially in that first 30 days. Overwhelming legislation started taking place, and the word unprecedented- which I can hardly take- times now, as a part of every statement. I have changed it to ‘for such a time as this’. It sounds better than unprecedented times. I’m asking the question every day, now what? As a business owner and leader, I was amazed, as usual, of the resilience of the marketplace, not just in Columbus, but in the country.

Betty Collins: The resilience of business ownerships and our leadership from the federal to the state, to local levels. We go from this roaring speed to an absolute, screeching halt, and even so, we jump in, as opposed to jump off. We learned, we read, we applied for dollars, we use the word pivot every day, but not even just for business, the personal life too, just to a screeching halt. By mid-year, the roller coaster ride had slowed down for some businesses and the owners and we were getting a little more comfortable, till those things called spikes came into place. Really now, at that point, June, July, we’re assessing the damage. It’s like, “The tornado went through. Now, what do I have?” The impact was both negative and positive. I think many of my clients are amazed at how they’re doing.

Betty Collins: I think others are devastated, but whether you are devastated or the opportunity was just amazing, we’re tired. We’re all tired, I think. So, now what? That’s the question you never need to- never I’ll start, whatever. So, now what? That is the question you need to ask with a year like 2020. We probably need to continue to ask that question for maybe always. I really don’t think we stop asking that question, but on top of the COVID-19, the unrest, all the change, the politics … I won’t go there. Instead, I’ll put my energy and my resources in Now What?, from a business and a personal perspective. Fortunately, the basics of business have not gone anywhere, it’s just the approach. In our personal lives, I think it’s been a more of an assessment of what is important. On vacation, I met this young boy. Yes, I took a vacation, yes, I flied Southwest and yes, they have empty seats, and yes, the middle seat is now not filled. It’s beautiful. When you’re on a plane today, everyone’s in a mask and they don’t serve food and they don’t wake you up and nobody talks. There are some good things with COVID-19.

Betty Collins: I’m on vacation, and I met this young boy, probably eight to nine years old. We’re on the beach walking, and he had this huge smile on his face because he had caught this fish. We were walking along and I approached him and asked what was he going to do with the fish? “Are you going to eat it? You’re going to throw it back in, throw it away?” He looks at me and he says, “First, please, social distance.” I just thought, “Wow,” and then he said, without hesitation, “The fish is going to be bait for a bigger fish.” I was so blown away by this kid’s optimism and the way he looked at the opportunity of that fish, not just eat it today or throw it away, but it’s going to be a bigger fish. I think, “Wow.” That’s all about mindset and that’s all about intentiality, and I think we could learn from him, even in this time of “What’s the opportunity you’re taking with what you have, to have more, have less, maybe just figure out what you want?”

Betty Collins: That little kid got it, for sure. It wasn’t even a matter of two that he was going to take the fish and get a bigger fish, he was really aware of his surroundings. He made sure that I social distance. This is a kid who’ll probably go far in life. I look at it and go, now what? Because it’s not if, but when. Lessons that we learn in 2020, that can be applied for the future, for sure, so, where do we start? We start by taking a deep breath and focusing, and we put our energy into actions. I’m going to talk about actions in know, assess, move, reflect and embrace. Sorry, but it’s all actions. That means you have to do something.

Betty Collins: First, know. What do you got to know? You’ve got to know all, not some, but all of the basics of business, your business. I had people who had worked their lifetime on these businesses, going, “What if this is it?” Know your basics. Basics are revenue in customers. I put those in the same line because they effect each other. Then you have expenses, debt, flowing cash. You have those advisors and partners. You have vendors; they are not partners- I’ll explain that later. You have marketing and technology and then your company structure, the pillars, the thing that makes you strong. Things like your current business model, the leadership and management, your employees, my whole, entire HR policy is completely different today than it was on March 15th. This is the stuff you have to know about; these are the basics of business.

Betty Collins: Let’s start with the first one that’s- the one that everyone likes to talk about, revenue- I put customers. Revenue’s got to turn into cash, so it must be the correct revenue and it’s got to be profitable revenue. Which means your financial data needs to be accurate and in real time, so you know, “Am I making money in what I do?” Revenue growth must be planned and controlled. I will tell you, everybody went to curbside immediately and some restaurants did really well with that. Some restaurants had no idea the demand that would be there and they did not have their systems in place. Jeff Ruby, even as an example, I don’t look at fine dining like I can do a curbside with fine dining.

Betty Collins: I don’t want to buy a really good steak and bring it home and heat it. I don’t even want to get their really good hamburger and fries and come on home and eat it. They did it really poorly and he came out and said that. They had to get, “Okay,” because people were calling them and they just didn’t have that expectation, so they had to plan and control that growth. Then later, they did a really great thing. “Here’s your steaks and here’s how to cook them. Here’s your mac and cheese, put it in the oven. Here’s your salad, it’s tossed. Here’s your bread, heated,” so I still had that Jeff Ruby meal, but it was done differently and they had to [INAUDIBLE] back. Revenue growth must be planned and controlled.

Betty Collins: Then you got to look at your revenue streams today in your business. Good thing for all of us to do, anyways, but now, it was even more glaring and should be what you’re doing in the future. You’ve got to overhaul, you’ve got to change, you’ve got to develop new things or you leave it alone, guess if it works. Out with the old and in with the new, is a continual conversation. I’ve done this anyways. Every September, I do this. I look at my clients and I look at the product, “Am I doing the right product? Have I got the right people?” Don’t fix what isn’t broken. Your think tanks around your customers and your new revenue lines you could have, your most valuable advisor in that, probably, is your employee. They probably know. They probably can help you because they’re in there with you.

Betty Collins: I know for us, during this time where we were doing a lot with PPP and EIDL loans and things like that, our employees stood up, stepped up and jumped in with us. We just didn’t say, “Here’s our new product,” they helped us create it. Every industry has to react in some manner. I don’t care who you are. I’ve been so impressed with the restaurants for sure, with curbside and casual dining. Banks really don’t need, probably, branches and professional services can be done about anywhere if you’ve got Zoom and a computer and a home office. You got to create products or services that might require capital and access to that capital. If you need to add revenue streams or remove them, do you have the money to do that? Maybe if you remove one, it’s going to take some time to build it up because it’s the new thing that you have to do. Or maybe your old one was such a lucrative thing, but it’s not applicable right now or it’s not working.

Betty Collins: In all of the basics of business that I listed before, with revenue and customers, you need to ask questions. What are the questions you need to be asking about revenue? I’m going to start with this question, always, first. What is keeping you up at night when it comes to your revenue? What is it that’s on your mind when it comes to revenue? You know those conversations you have in your head. What is my most profitable sale? Is my financial information accurate and does it tell me anything or help me to know that my revenue is going to turn into cash? Do we have enough capital or access to that capital to create the right revenue and to grow? Did my revenue survive COVID-19 and will it survive in the future? I just recently met with someone who does office design.

Betty Collins: Now, think about that. Commercial buildings look like they’re vacating; people are leaving. We’re all going to work at home forever- I don’t think that’s going to happen. When I had lunch with them, they talked about, “What we’re going to do now, is help you design a room for hoteling; for people just- they come and use it when they need it, and conference rooms that now, can have three and then when they used to have eight.” Now, we got to have different conference rooms around, probably. They just looked at other ways to go in there and say, “We’re still going to design offices and now, we have a whole new market to design because an office is going to be used differently.” Is my revenue created by products and services that are in the past, not the future? The last question I’ll ask in each one of these segments, am I missing out on an opportunity because I did not pivot during COVID-19? By the way, COVID-19 is not over.

Betty Collins: Then customers, knowing your customer and your audience, that probably has changed. Mine hasn’t changed necessarily; the client hasn’t changed because I work with small businesses, but how they’re doing business change, which means how I do business with them changes. You’ve got to determine right now, really, really well, who are your A, B, C and D clients. Again, I’ve already done that, every September. You develop some criteria; you know what isn’t a client. Is large an A client? I wouldn’t say that is an A client, necessarily. When I look at those As, then that also fills my pipeline, “I’m going to go to those clients because that’s my A.” Then I got to look at those Ds and go, “You’re fired.” I put Cs on notice, “You might be fired.” It’s time right now to know your audience, know your customer. Customers and prospects need to know their products and services. I recently had somebody during this COVID time, we’re really, really busy, but not earning any money. I think a lot of people did that.

Betty Collins: One of the really cool things she did was, she put a survey out to clients and connectors and vendors and said, “These are my products, these are my services. Which ones do you not know about?” I thought, “What a great idea,” because I didn’t know probably three or four out of the dozen things. I didn’t know she did that. That opens up the door to the client. Those are things with your revenue and your customers that you should be thinking about and doing. By the way, I have a hand out in this and I also have a hand out that you can get on our website that is the questions you should be asking yourselves and your team, when it comes to these basics of business. What are the questions you need to be asking about your customers?

Betty Collins: I already told you the ones on revenue. Always first, what’s keeping you up at night about your customers? What gets your attention that you can’t let it go? What are your best customers? Is your pipeline full of the best customer look, or is it the, ‘hey, they breathe and I think they might have money’? Is that the one in the customer area in your pipeline? Do you have a good database? What I found was this was a great time to go, “Where is all my contacts?” What a mess that was, but I figured it out and I got that really organized. Am I marketing and networking to my A customer, or am I still going to the B and C customer and then wondering why have B and Cs? Do we have enough capital to access and really serve that A customer? Did my customers survive COVID-19 and will they survive in the future? I’m pleasantly surprised that people are doing very well right now, but I’m still got that ‘is the bottom going to drop out’? Do my customers need the products and services that I’m doing now? Hard questions. Last question always, am I missing an opportunity because I did not pivot during COVID-19? Good revenue will generate from good clients, which then turn in to cash. We could talk about cash later.

Betty Collins: Then we go on to the next basic; expenses, debt and cash flow. Expenses, there’s three types and you need to know your differences. Cost to make the product or provide the service. So many people don’t know that. How do you know what’s profitable if you don’t know what it really costs you to make it? Overhead is just the cost of doing business. Some people get really wrapped up in, “I’m going to cut my cable bill,” that’s just a minor thing. Overhead, just be a good steward with it. That’s different expense than what it costs to make your product. Then there’s those expenses, they’re really not expenses, but it’s cash flow that doesn’t hit your profit and loss. Doesn’t fall in expenses and overhead and it doesn’t fall in cost of goods sold. It’s things like paying down your debt, not the interest. It’s like distributions that get passed through an EZCorp, you, the owner, take out your profits. That’s not on your bottom line.

Betty Collins: Drawers for single memberships or partnerships, not in your bottom line. Dividends for Seed Corps, not in your bottom line. Those are expenses, they’re really cash flow and then when you reinvest in the future. You really have three types of expenses to me; something that’s going to take your cash out of your business, the cost to make it, the overhead and expenses that don’t hit the profit and loss. Cost of goods sold, man, look at that number. “Do I have everything in there really cost me to make it?” In other words, if you pay rent, you’re going to pay rent whether you make something or not, so that’s not a cost of doing good business. If you’re a hairdresser, shampoo’s the cost of doing business and knowing what that is, is really important to your profitability, because you’re either going to charge more or buy better products that maybe aren’t as expensive so that you get as much gross margin out of business you can.

Betty Collins: Cutting expense, that’s not revenue growth. Cutting the cable bill, that’s not revenue growth, that’s just, ‘you’ve got the best cable in town, okay’. It’s probably a really small thing. Revenue growth is getting the right revenue and the right customers I’ve talked about. Partnerships, man, those are not the same as vendors. Partnerships are relationship-based that sell you something, but vendors are just transactional, like the Post-it notes that I buy. That’s transactional, but my legal services or my HR consultant or my podcast company, those are things that have partnerships related to them. When you’re paying out any money, whether it’s overhead, partnerships, it’s just your typical vendor, they’re taking your money. So, make sure they think you as ‘you’re the customer’.

Betty Collins: What are the questions you should be asking about your expenses? Always first, what’s keeping you up at night about your expenses? Is it the cable bill? Then that’s just- you need to just get over it, but if it’s the right employee, different thing. Am I really being a good steward of my overhead? Is my gross profit enough to catch all that cash flow that has to go out the door like debt and reinvestment and paying my taxes and taking draws? Again, do we have enough capital access that gives me better buying power? That’s huge. Are my partnerships, who I buy from and spend money with, are they treating me accordingly? Do they even really know me? Do they know my business? Are they engaged with me? Are they on the cutting edge and relevant?

Betty Collins: If your marketing people are telling you that the Yellow Pages is your best bet, you’re the wrong marketing people. If they tell you radio is ready to go, you’re probably the wrong media. Now, those things still happen, but that’s not the main thing. You got to have relevant, cutting-edge partnerships in your life. Again, about those expenses, what’s the question you should be asking? Lastly, am I missing out on opportunity because I did not pivot during COVID-19? We’ll spend a little time on debt. No one likes to talk about it, but you got to know the difference between good and bad debt when you’re looking at the basics of your business. Good debt generates revenue. If you buy better equipment to do a better podcast, you’re probably going to have more revenue from that. Good debt assists with investment.

Betty Collins: It assists with- that generates revenue and wealth accumulation. I did have a person who, she loves filming people. She does videos and she said, “Yeah, but I’d have to go into debt to get a better studio.” I said, “But that studio is going to generate totally different revenue for you.” That’s good debt. Because then that allows you to pay off the debt and now, you have a different product, you have a better client, you can serve more people, you can charge more. That’s okay debt. If it’s a Jaguar, I’m not going to tell you that’s good, necessarily. But upgrade your studio so you can offer a product that will generate this kind of money for you, beautiful. Debt, good debt is with a banker who understands your limits.

Betty Collins: I really can’t emphasize that enough, a good banker may tell you no because you’re just not ready for it. Then you say to him, “Well, then get me ready.” He’s probably going to tell you what I’m just been telling you about your revenue and your expenses. That’s really- he’s not going to turn you down because he doesn’t like you, it’s probably because those things aren’t in order. What questions do I need to ask about my debt? Always first, what’s keeping you up at debt- what’s keeping you up at night about my debt? What are my real expenses to make the product and service it? Am I spending my money wisely there? Should I be debt free? Some businesses, I would tell you yes, most businesses, I’m going to tell you no.

Betty Collins: What is my debt costing me? So many people have no clue. Who’s my banker? So many people don’t have a clue and they really got cut short when it came to PPP and EIDL money; it was terrible. What will the banking look like after PPP is spent, done, paid back, forgiven, your EIDL loans, kicking in, your SBA loan- now, payments are being put to- you got to make in yourself versus the SBA. What is that? What is your banker saying? After all of this stuff related to COVID-19 and debt, what are they going to be able to do for you? Lastly, of course, am I missing out on opportunity because I did not pivot during COVID-19 when it relates to debt?

Betty Collins: I’m amazed today. I had somebody come in- new client- who did not get the PPP loan because they just didn’t figure they qualified; they more than qualified. They gave up a tremendous opportunity by not applying for that PPP loan that now is going to be forgiven. Wow.

Betty Collins: Cash flow, I’m going to discuss a little bit later, so I’m going to past that one. Now, so we talked about revenue in customers, expenses, debt, cash flow. Advisers and partners are next. You are only as good as your adviser. That could be any type of adviser. A long time ago, and it was in probably the 90s. I wore the big hair of the 80s, so my hairdresser, who knew I was out a lot, doing things, speaking, doing my stuff, said, “Why are you still wearing an 80s haircut? You know there’s a thing called a straightener, and there’s these products that do this and your hair looks like it’s the 80s.” I was really taken back by that; I use that example a lot because she was an adviser that was trying to make me as good as I could be. She wasn’t being crude. She said, “Your hair looks great, but it’s the 80s. This is 1990 something.”

Betty Collins: You are the customer and should be treated like one, and that’s what advisers and partners do. Advisers though, man, they got to be in alignment with you. They must know you and they must know your business. Years ago, I hooked up with a guy. I’m not going to say who it is or the company, but I had not done a whole lot with planning. I was a single mom and and I needed to save for colleges and get myself going. I had about $10,000 in an IRA. That was it. I mean, I was 38 years old, so that’s not good. I sat down- and really, I was thrilled because this guy got me really started in the investment world, but then everything became about his company. Pushed and pushed and pushed his company, and pushed and pushed that I can work for his company. I was like, “Hold it. That’s not what’s good for me. That’s not the purpose why I’m here.” They have to be in alignment with you. Advisers are not vendors; they’re not transactional.

Betty Collins: They have to be honest and upfront, no overpromising, no misleading; I don’t need that. They have to have expertise. If you already know it, you don’t need them. Just like you, your advisers are in business to make a living, so if they want to charge you for something, don’t you want to make money for what you do? Don’t look at that as a bad thing or that it’s- because if they are an expense and you don’t see the value, you probably need to move on.

Betty Collins: Then annual meetings of all the people in the room, the only two people that are in charge of you are your attorney and your accountant. Your banker is not going to charge you, your insurance people aren’t going to charge you. The crucial vendors and partners in your life are not going to charge you, but you can get them all on the same page. Here we go, what are the questions you need to be asking about advisors and partners? The first one always is, what is keeping me up at night about these relationships? Are they valuable or an expense? I had a very big wake-up call this summer from a very- client who valued me a lot. He put it on my engagement letter that says, “You’re worth every dime I paid you.” This year, it was, “You’re just getting expensive and the ROI isn’t there. I’m just letting you know.” I was grateful for that because I don’t want to be an expense to him. I want him to think I’m valuable. So, you got to make sure that those advisers are valuable and not an expense. Do I know I can trust them? At least if you’re going to pay someone and bare your soul, know I can trust them.

Betty Collins: How much do you know about their company? A long time ago, I had a ADP rep and loved him, and he was there four, five years, which is a lifetime in a payroll company. ADP is a great company. When he left, I had no one. I didn’t really know who to call there. I didn’t have any other vendors. I did go to a smaller vendor for smaller clients who I know his company. I know his people. I’ve been doing business now with him for 10 years for a smaller company. I still freefer to other payroll companies, but it’s just a different relationship because I know him, and I know what he does and I know a lot about his people.

Betty Collins: You have to ask, are they truly an expert and know what I don’t already know? I mean, at Weight Watchers- I go to Weight Watchers, I already know how to eat. It doesn’t mean I don’t need to go there. You have to have experts that know something you don’t. Are they going to survive during these times? What if your main vendor or your partner or your advisor is not doing well with the times we’re living in? And that surprises you on January 10th when you go to renew something or you need some help or whatever it is? You need to know that. Are they going to survive the times? Lastly, of course, am I missing out on opportunity because I did not pivot during 2019 when it comes to my advisers and partners?

Betty Collins: Now, marketing technology is our next basic. Wow. What have- this life has really changed in this way. Marketing today, for me, is not what it was six months ago. I’m a networker. I’m an event person. I’m a speaker. I’m a one-on-one lunch dealmaker. That’s gone, so now what? As we keep asking. On part two of this, I’m going to have Betty Clark with CP Media and Marketing, and she’s going to come and talk about the challenges now you have. What is your marketing plan? What should it look like? We’re going to a great discussion with her on it, so I’m not going to spend a whole lot of time on marketing today. But I will tell you this, my story for marketing in 2020, much more intentional systems so I can have connection. I got to try a lot new things and I have to deal with Zoom, is called life. I’m sure there’s going to be something come out that’s going to help us all deal with the Brady-Bunch-look on screen, but because there is a lot more virtual connecting, you’re starting to see some of that in events. Until then, now what?

Betty Collins: Betty Clark’s going to come and talk to us about that. I’m not going to go heavily into company structures and policies; they’re boring, but those are things that you really get with your attorneys on, that am I in the right? Is this the right business model for the times I’m living? Is the leadership and management team I have working? Can they deal with the times we’re living in? So, no, it’s a lot. I did a lot of no. Not all of them are going to be … The second thing, though, is the second action, is assess. You got to assess the damage. You got to- the tornado has come through and do we have a house or not? You got to keep moving forward and you got to plan it and map it out and not hope that it all works out. Hope is not a strategy. Part of knowing the assessment, I hate to tell you, is you’re reading your financial statements in your business. What is that financial position today? It’s really nothing more than your balance sheet, which is, “Here’s what I own. Here’s who I owe, and the difference is what I’m worth.” You got to have a positive income statement because that grows the balance sheet. It grows the assets.

Betty Collins: You should be asking questions like, “Where’s the cash from all my profits?” You should be asking, “What’s the difference of a balance sheet in a profit and loss? Your balance sheet tells your worth. Do you even know what that is? I hate to tell you, but ratios help you make great decisions. You just have to know what they are. They’re not that hard to calculate or get someone that can help you with them. You can’t really do ratios unless though, you have really good quality financials that tell you so. Assessing comes from, when it comes to your business and its financial position, it’s knowing those financial statements. We’ll go with, “Where’s all my cash?” It is true, cash is king. You know why? It’s the most important item on your balance sheet, maybe. Because that’s what allows you to make it all happen. It’s what pays you. It pays your employees. It buys inventory. It pays off debt. It lets you reinvest. It makes sure you can pay your taxes. It helps you expand. I mean, cash has to be there. Again, I went back to my statement.

Betty Collins: Good revenue in customers turns into cash. First and foremost, to accumulate cash, you got to be profitable at what you do. You have to understand, I’ve talked a little bit about what gross profit is, which is, “Hey, I sold this for 500 bucks and it cost me a hundred to make it, so I’ve got 400 bucks, but I haven’t paid overhead, I haven’t paid my taxes, I haven’t paid my debt, I haven’t reinvested anything.” So, you really didn’t make 400 bucks. Net profit is, “I sold this for 500, it cost me a hundred. I’ve got a profit of 400 and I paid some overhead. I paid my rent and I paid the phone bill and some things like that, and here’s my net profit, which then is going to take care of paying all these other bills.”

Betty Collins: The balance sheet will help you get a handle on your cash flow. I mean, just does. A balance sheet is nothing more than a date, in a point in time. On this date, so, on October 31st, I have this many assets, I owe this many people, so I’m worth this much. It’s not just for October 31st, it’s since the beginning of time, when you started your business. I put money in my business to start, and I’ve made money. I’ve lost money, I’ve drawn money, I’ve added money, and now, here’s what I’m worth. That’s all a balance sheet is. It’s as important, and everyone focuses on, “How much cash do I have at the bank and what did I make?” Those two are things are fine, but the balance sheet is really important. It never stops; it’s continual. The thing about a profit and loss is, it ends and you start all over. It goes 12 months, then you start again. Another way to say that is, “If I’m going to really assess the damages, I’ve got to have financial statements.”

Betty Collins: A balance sheet is ‘where I’m at right now’ and a profit and loss is, “Here’s the money I’ve made.” Assets are what your company use to operate; cash, receivables, things like that. Where liabilities and your equity, those support the assets. If you have cars, you’ve got loans that’s supporting it. You got to know what- right assets when you- especially if you want to know some ratios as to your stability. I mean, current assets are cash, receivables, things that you can just turn around and again, money ends up in the bank. Then you got fixed assets and other assets of long-term things. You might have paid a deposit on a rent place and just sits there. Then you got liabilities. Current ones are accounts payable. Your line of credit is a current liability. In other words, in 12 months, I got to have all this paid off.

Betty Collins: Then your equity is, again, the money you put in, draws you take out, taxes you paid with your draws and net income. You got to understand those components to really get to assess, “Where did I land in all this?” A lot of people, you would be amazed, don’t know that. The people who do know that, it’s why they grow. It’s why they have success. So, what really is the difference, again, of the balance sheet and the profit and loss? Your balance sheets continue, your profit and losses, 12 months. Your balance sheet shows your net worth, versus your profit and loss show you what you earn. Your balance sheet actually has the net income on it, in the equity section, where the profit and loss, they don’t have anything to do with the balance sheet. You got to know these things. If you’re making profit on your products, to accumulate the cash, to pay your debt, reinvest and just make sure you’re successful. Assessment of those items needs to happen, as a business owner. Sorry, it doesn’t sound at all exciting. You’d rather be dealing with your passion and your ideas, but this is what fuels those passions and those ideas. A lot of people will say, “Well, my balance sheet says I’m worth this much and so, that’s- must be the money be worth.

Betty Collins: Now, there’s a thing called your selling price, too. In today’s world, you wouldn’t believe how much buying and selling is going on, because there are people who are like, “I’m too tired to do this.” There are people going, “I got opportunity to go to a different direction.” To know your net worth, you first of all, have to have a correct balance sheet. If you had $100,000 worth of cash, but your bank statement says you have 50, that’s not a correct balance sheet. It has to be supported and reconciled. Selling price of things is not just, again, your equity section. It’s, if you were to sell today, what clients am I selling? What key employees do I have? What’s my reputation and name like? Do I have cutting-edge products? Do I have old-school products? Then you got to have a solid thing called EBITDA, which everyone hates. Not really, but it really is taking your income statement, that net income statement, and it’s turning it into your earnings that are from operations.

Betty Collins: EBITDA stands for earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. Yay. It focuses on operating decisions of your business. It looks at the really- the business profitability from its core operations. This is just what we do, but we did leverage some capital to start the business, so here’s some interest. We’re going to take that out. Depreciation and amortization are a number, they’re not cash, so it reconciles that so a buyer can know that. What are the important relationships on a balance sheet income statement? There’s ratios. I’m not going to go a lot into that. I’s very hard to do on a podcast. I will be doing a Now What? series for- in a couple of weeks, we’ll get that out to you, and we’re going to talk about that a little. You got to have two ratios that are most important. One is, it tells you, “Can you pay your bills?” Those are liquidity ratios. Solvency is, “Can you pay your debt?” That’s what your bank looks at. They don’t look at you and say, “I don’t like you.” They look at your solvency, they look at your liquidity and they convert your profit and loss into that thing called EBITDA. Those are the things you need to know when you are assessing.

Betty Collins: The income statement- I’ve talked more about the balance sheet. Now, on the income statement, when you’re assessing that, you had to focus on that top line revenue and who your customers are. You have to really assess that besides just, “I want to grow 10%,” or, “It’s a million dollars,” or “It’s not enough.” When I first came to Brady Ware, I had a VP marketing, first time ever in my life in 2012, and he asked me questions that I didn’t even ever think about, and that was, “Who’s your 10 best clients?” Of course, at first, I thought, “Well, my large ones, because there’s a lot of money to it.” He said, “No, I want you to get into, ‘why are they your best client?’ Now, that’s hard for a CPA, but it really came down to relationships and partners. Do they value me as the CPA or am I expense? Ethics, ethics are a big part of who I am in my industry. The industry- you business people are accounting that CPAs have ethics, but our clients have to have the same ethic if we’re really going to … If they’re going to be that good client, that’s meeting that top-line revenue on your profit and loss.

Betty Collins: Do they take more than I can give? Are they the client in service that I make money at? When I came to Brady, where I did a lot of just 10/40, personal 10/40s without the business, and I realized, “I don’t make money on those, and they take a lot of time and it’s volume. But if they own a business and I can do their business return, then I’ll just do their personal return.” Do they pay me? That’s a good customer. That’s in your top line revenue. What opportunity am I missing because I’m servicing the wrong client? Huge, huge question. If they don’t see that my product is relevant or good or it’s not needed, then I’m missing an opportunity.

Betty Collins: In assessment, profitability is huge. There is going to be life beyond 2020. I think there’ll be huge celebrations when we can say 1/1/21. When you assess and move forward, you got to project. Yay. You got to do it, you got to know that you’re earning enough to keep yourself moving. Then when you’re assessing, you do need to look at your debt, is the PPP going to be forgiven? Is it going to be a loan? Is it going to be revenue I’m going to be taxed on? You got to be looking at the restructuring of your debt with your banker when you assess. Do I have enough access to debt? Will I have the ability to have access to debt?

Betty Collins: Then, looking at things like your line of credit, what are they saying now? Because they just put a bunch of money in the marketplace, are they going to let us get more in our line? Are they going to renew our line? Everything’s good right now for so many people because they’re expensive. Their expenses really went down. Everybody pivoted, everyone got PPP money, those things, but you should be asking questions about that future. Again, business beyond. What happens, sometimes, when there’s a slowdown like we’ve gone through- I mean, in Brady, where our meals and travel and entertainment have plunged, obviously, that cost has been just pretty much nothing, but that also means we’re not traveling out in the marketplace. Right now, we might feel the really good side of not eating out and and not traveling and not being out there in networking and speaking and events, but the reason we do those things is because it generates relationships and new contacts and new business. We might be feeling a really good effect right now of that travel and entertainments going down, but it might have a side effect in the future.

Betty Collins: You got to be sure that you can rent back up, because the marketplace is getting busier. The buzz is out there a little bit more. Do I have enough inventory? Because right now, I’ve had really short inventory. When I was at Jeff Ruby’s Steakhouse, they weren’t serving prime rib because it’s too expensive to have, because the product they want is fresh prime rib or they want it aged a certain way. If they don’t sell that every day, they can’t throw it away and make money. So, they’re having to reassess that inventory, but at some point in time, they’re probably going to sell prime rib again. People will be there, do I have that ramp up? Those are things all about your assessment. We’ve talked a lot about the know, the basic of business, and assess and keep moving forward. As much as it’s not the greatest thing to go with, it’s something you have to, if you want to go forward, because now what? Now what? is a question you should be asking. Today, if you go into my website at www.BradyWare and look up Betty Collins, my podcast will be right there. There will be handouts that summarize all this.

Betty Collins: I’d love to talk to you about it, because it’s something that I’m passionate about, because when the marketplace works in this country, the country works. Right now, it needs businesses to work. It needs employers to have success. I appreciate your time today. This is part one of Now What? Remember, this fish you have now can be bigger and used for bait for later. Don’t forget those opportunities and that perspective. I’m Betty Collins, have a great day.

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The Value of Forward Thinking – An Interview with Jill Frey, Cummins Facility Services

October 15, 2020 by John Ray

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The Value of Forward Thinking – An Interview with Jill Frey, Cummins Facility Services (Inspiring Women, Episode 26)

Cummins Facility Services CEO Jill Frey joins host Betty Collins to discuss her company’s growth and how forward thinking has aided her success journey. She also shares her experience of being a female in a male-dominated industry. “Inspiring Women” is presented by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

You’ve got to be a forward thinker.

You’ve got to be proactive if you want to move forward and get through the “what ifs” when they come. Forward thinking is not always easy. It might not be your personality. So you’ve got to at least have somebody on your team who’s a forward thinker, who can push you to do more, think bigger.

In this episode, I speak with Jill Frey, President & CEO of Cummins Facility Services. I consider her the definitive forward thinker.

Cummins Facility Services (CFS) is a national multi-faceted facility management company servicing Fortune 500 companies across the US. CFS is a 100% women owned enterprise.

Cummins provides services including janitorial, landscaping, snow removal, HVAC, security, floor care, and light maintenance to manufacturing plants, retail stores, medical facilities, schools, corporate offices as well as the hospitality industry. Jill took over leadership of the family business, which began in 1972, after graduating from the University of Toledo in 1994.

About being a female in a male-dominated business category…

So in my opinion, it’s all about respect. You’ve got to stand your guard and you’ve got to really stick up for who you are. I’ve been in this industry literally my whole life. And people can try to say that they can bully me around. But I started in this industry rolling up my sleeves and working with my employees. I know how to do it. I know how to strip and waxer. I know how to do all of that. And that’s gotten me so far ahead. I get so excited about my industry and my employees and my people and what’s going on. And I think if they don’t take me seriously, it’s going to come back on them.

Jill talks about how have she navigated through this COVID-19 time, and what she thinks that this industry will look like in the future…

It has changed our life. And the quote that I like to use for this is what 9/11 did to buildings, COVID-19 is doing to disinfection and facilities. And I truly believe that. Nobody’s had a guidebook. No one’s had a book of “this is what you do here.” It’s never existed before. And so we had to reinvent that.

And her clients are appreciating her outlook, her forward thinking and quick action…

Our clients were telling us that the information that we were sending out is the best information that they are getting from any of their sources. It was amazing. We’ve had so many clients sending us letters of thank you, presidents of companies. Thank you so much for cleaning our facility.

And she ends our interview with three great quotes, and here is one of them…

The best way to predict the future is to invent it.

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins, Brady Ware & Company

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

“Inspiring Women” is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA, and presented by Brady Ware and Company. Brady Ware is committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. Other episodes of “Inspiring Women” can be found here.

Show Transcript

Betty Collins: Today, I’m going to interview someone who is just the definition, to me, of forward-thinking. She’s just always been that way and forward-thinking is so crucial to success and there are no guarantees in life, professionally or personally. There are so many unplanned events and circumstances, like a pandemic, or whatever, a loss of a crucial employee, or fill in the blank. There’s all kinds of things that come at you, and if you don’t forward-think to always try to be ahead of things, it’s really hard, sometimes, to head those things head on. They just come. It’s not about if, but when. Will you be ready to always answer what is next? In the good and the bad times, not just in the bad times, not just in the pandemic times, you’ve got to be a forward thinker. You’ve got to be proactive, if you want to move forward and further, and get through the what ifs when they come.

Betty Collins: In addition, the marketplace, your industry, technology, etc., it’s always changing and it’s better to be ahead of it or even just, “Hey, I’m the driver of the change in my industry.” On vacation this year, I was walking on the beach, and I’ve told this story in several other podcasts, but it’s one of my favorites. It’s this little boy; he’s maybe eight to 10 years old, and he was really excited because he caught this fish. It was about seven or eight inches long. I approached him on the beach, and I asked him what he was going to do with that fish. “Are you going to throw that out? Are you going to eat it? You going to give it back? What are you going to do?” He immediately, very aware of his surroundings, seven or eight years old, he says, “First, you need to socially distance.” Of course, I just went, “Oh, wow.” His mother was looking at me like, “What is she going to do?” I said, “Thank you so much.” I did, and then he said without hesitation to me, “The fish is a bait for a bigger fish.”

Betty Collins: I thought, “Wow.” My husband could see my head. He just knew what I was thinking. He’s like, “We’re on vacation.” I said, “I know,” but wow. To me, this is a forward, big thinker. He’s only, again, a small kid, but he wasn’t going to just eat and be satisfied today. He wasn’t just going to throw the fish back in. He was going to catch a bigger fish. He was going to do something in the future with that fish. Immediately, I thought of our guest today, Jill Frey, who’s the president and CEO of Cummins Facility Services, which we’ll refer to that as CFS in the future. She’s always asking and thinking, and she’s always- she’ll call me and say, “I just need to pick your brain,” or she does that with her team. What could be and what should be; those are two different things. The could and the should, are they both important when you’re asking those questions, trying to get ahead, trying to do one plan, trying to drive your change? Remember, it’s not about if, it’s about what. What do you do? You have to be a forward thinker and it’s not always an easy, easy … It might not be your personality.

Betty Collins: You got to, at least, have somebody in your team who’s a forward thinker, who can get you to go further. Today, I have with me, she is the definition of forward-thinking, and she’s the owner, again, of Cummins Facility Services. It’s a family-owned business. She became that owner. It’s been around since actually, 1972. I mean, they do everything under the sun for janitorial services, landscaping, snow removal, HVAC, security, floor, you name it, they do it. I can’t give away what she’s thinking about doing now or what she is in the process of doing now, but … And two, as a successful business owner and executive, she’s very involved in things like young professional organizations, YPO, young executives, women’s business enterprise, as well as ISSA. Just, she’s helping me with a young woman that we’re trying to get into the marketplace. Just a dynamic resume, right out of college, in 2020. That’s who she is and that’s who she likes to help. She’s active in her local community, involved with Ruling Our Experiences, ROX, R-O-X, and a leader in ME programs. She has a special love for diving; that sounds fun, enjoys running; not so fun, and travel; I could do that. She’s a single mom of two, really great children, Savannah and Spencer. Jill, welcome to our program today, and thank you today for taking the time to do this podcast.

Jill Frey: Oh, Betty, it’s my pleasure. I love time with you, so anything I can do to get more Betty time is always fun. Thank you for all those kind words. Thank you for believing in me, always. I appreciate everything that you’ve done for us, so thank you.

Betty Collins: She’s just a great. What I want you to do, Jill, is just take a few minutes and tell your stories of Cummins. I mean, I’ve heard it and we don’t have an hour, but give us the highlights of the story of Jill and Cummins.

Jill Frey: Thanks. I like to be funny. I think I’m the funniest person in the world and so, because people don’t laugh. No, no. If you hear something, it’s because I’m trying to be funny. Anyway, so, my parents started a company in 1972. I grew up the daughter of a janitor, which is always fun, let me tell you. I graduated from college, from the University of Toledo, and my parents said, “Hey, we’ve just paid for your college. Can we go on a vacation?” I said, “Absolutely. Go. The sky’s the limit. Wherever you want to go, go for it.” They went on a trip to Honduras to go diving and they ended up buying beachfront property, called me and said, “We’re not coming back. The company’s yours. Good luck.” We had 15 employees at the time and we did business in one town, literally one town. Today, we self-perform business all over the nation. We are in 40 states; really, really good. We pay taxes, we pay people. I can call the phone and I can pick up my phone and say, “Who’s the supervisor of this state?” And we have someone there. We’ve grown substantially. It’s been so fun. When I grew that whole time, it was all about my employees.

Jill Frey: When I took over the company, when my parents gave me the company and said, “The company is yours, good luck. Run with it,” it was all about, “How do I keep the employees that I have, and make sure that I can continue to give them a job? How do I grow them? How do I make them successful?” That has always been my why, and I think that’s really important for me to remember every day, that that’s why I get out of bed in the morning. My life has literally, in the facilities industry, been revolving around my employees and how to make them as successful as I can. It’s a story of Cummins, but you’re completely right. We’ve moved out of janitorial and into more facilities maintenance, HVAC, snow removal, landscaping, security. We’re in the tech sector now. I really do think buildings can talk, and so, I am trying to enable them to do that, so I know what’s going on inside my buildings. My children have grown. I need something now to communicate with, and I guess, I feel like those are my buildings.

Betty Collins: Well, not only have you grown Cummins and you have a great team- I can’t, we’ll talk about that in a few minutes, but you’re also an industry leader. You’re pushing cutting-edge stuff. You’re involved in that, as well as a thought leader. You’ve gone beyond, “This is my company, and this is what we’re doing today. This is what my industry should be doing.”

Jill Frey: Thanks, Betty.

Betty Collins: You’ve been really great about that. We’ve had some fun times, created a nonprofit, just to do that, right?

Jill Frey: Right, exactly. You know my stories.

Betty Collins: You’re always out, somewhere in the future. I remember the first time I ever met you. I was with your COO and your CFO. We were going over different things, and you said, “Look, Betty. My role is to go figure out all this crap we need to do, and then these guys do it.” You’ve just been this future person and some of the ideas you were throwing out that day, I went, “Oh, my gosh. I wonder if she’ll ever really do that,” but I mean, you’re ahead of it. How has that thinking in the future, being somewhere in the future, how has that played in your success? Then give us an example of when you weren’t forward-thinking and it held you back.

Jill Frey: Thank you. Thanks for asking those questions. I got into a conference room with Betty and her team, and obviously, she’s an accountant. She’s my accountant. She’s amazing. She’s fantastic. I highly recommend her to anybody listening to this podcast. She’s changed our company. I was squirming in my chair and I said, “Betty, I feel naked right now. I’m completely naked in front of all of you people, and there are men in the room.” She said, “Jill, you’re fine.” I said, “I don’t do this.”

Jill Frey: “I go and I solve problems, so you’re right, Betty.” That’s exactly what I said, and thanks for remembering that. Yes, I am always trying to be out in the future. One example I can give you is one of my largest clients about 15 years ago. We were still a state player, state competitor in janitorial services. My biggest client says to me, “We’re going to go out for bid, and your choice is to lose your business with me or grow five times.” I thought, “Oh, my goodness, how am I going to do this? Because if I don’t conquer this, I’m going to lose the business I have.” Biggest client, all of my employees, I’m going to have to lay them off. It would be a nightmare. I went out and I found a partner, and that is how we grew our business into so many states, because our partner said- in fact, we were in Mexico at the time, as well. I literally got on a plane, went down to Monterrey, Mexico, and started touring.

Jill Frey: We had 20 facilities down in Mexico that we were taking care of. That’s me, trying to be futuristic, because that company wanted one neck to choke, and that neck was mine. Knock on wood, we still have that client today. I’ve made the right decision and we grew. We took on all those facilities, we took on Mexico. I’d have accountants, attorneys in Mexico. You could see this little blonde beboppin’ down there. I mean, I’m sure it was just a vision to be seen, but we did it and we succeeded. The company knew that they could trust us and that we had their best interests at heart. That’s how I had to be a futuristic with that. I came back and I said, “Hey, team, we’re going to be doing business in all these states.” They looked at me like I had five heads. They had no idea.

Jill Frey: “How are we going to do the payroll for that? Who’s our bank going to be? How do we pay people in these other states?” That was very interesting. I could see that if I would have said, “No, I’m not prepared for that,” I don’t know where I would be, today. I would have lost my biggest customer. I wouldn’t be in all the states that I am in today. That would have had a huge impact on my success, on my company, on my employees. That’s a really interesting story. At the time, I didn’t know how well that was going to unfold. That’s, I think, how my forward-thinking was. I don’t really have a story on not forward thinking, because if anybody asks … There’s a slogan in the company, ‘what would you all do?’ It was always about what I would do with a client, the client always right. You are always taking care of the client, always do that.

Jill Frey: On the flip side of that, if the client asks us to do something, the answer is always yes. “Do you clean windows?” “Yes.” I can give you an example of this. My father started a company in 1972. About 1980, Honda came in, got the huge Honda contract there in Marysville, and he went in to do some cleaning for them. Honda said to my father, “Do you clean windows?” My father said, “No, we don’t clean windows,” and he never got the contract with Honda. From that point, I’ve always said, “Please make sure if they ever ask us to do anything, we say yes. If they ask us to go to a different state, yes, we will do that. If they ask us to take on another responsibility, yes, we will totally do that.” Anything a client asks, the answer’s always yes.

Belly Collins: You can have a client like Honda, because you wouldn’t even think twice. Even if you didn’t even have any window experience, you’d go, “We absolutely clean windows.” Then you call your team and say, “How do we clean windows?”

Jill Frey: That’s exactly what I would do.

Belly Collins: That’s what’s so awesome, right?

Jill Frey: Yeah, that’s happened.

Belly Collins: That’s why I like being in meetings with your team and with you guys, because you’re always, “Well, Jill is going to do this now.” I go, “Oh, okay. All right, so now what?” They make it happen. Let’s talk about your team, because you have an amazing team. I’ve been very impressed. Part of that is because you value them. They play a part of your success, certainly, but how do they deal with forward-thinking and fast pace and constant change? Because you are never going to be in neutral or “Look at what we used to do.” You’re going to be looking, “We’re going and we’re going fast and furious.” Not everyone can think like that. Tell us about your team and leading them, as a forward thinker.

Jill Frey: Oh, I do have the best team in the world, you’re absolutely right. I trust them and I enable them. I give them the power to make decisions. I do not multi or I do not micromanage them at all, and I let them know that, “Listen, if you need a micromanager, this is not the place for you to be. I’m just going to assume everything I ask you to do is going to be done perfectly.” Yeah , they’ve had a hard time. One of my team, I’ll ask for something to be done and she’ll say, “That can be done, but it’s not going to be done in jail time.” Everybody knows that jail time is now. Like, “Let’s go, jail time.” That’s been really challenging for me and as we grow, I still have those key people that I call and I just called one of them today and I said, “Hey, I had a whole truckload of stone I’m having delivered out to the office.” They’re like, “Do we need a truckload of stone?” I’m like, “I don’t know. I just got it. It’s going to be there. She’s like, “Jill, I don’t manage stone delivery.” I’m like, “Okay, we’ll figure out who does, great.”

Jill Frey: I don’t know who everybody is, so I just still go to those main players. You’re right, they have to adapt to that and God bless their souls. I mean, they’ll be like, “Jill, I’m in the middle. Today’s Monday, it’s a big day for me. I don’t have time to figure out stone delivery,” but they always do and they always make it happen. They’re fantastic, and they love when I forward-think. One day, I had them all look outside and I said, “Do you see that big, blue, beautiful sky?” They said, “Yes, it’s gorgeous.” I said, “Someday, there’s going to be airships out there and they’re all going to be delivering packages via drones.” They didn’t believe me. I just said, “What? You don’t believe me?” I got all these news articles for them about all these airships that are being built, and we’re working on part of that as well. It’s opening your mind and you never know what is going to come out of my mouth.

Jill Frey: It’s just like, “Is she serious? Really?” That’s where my team just- I mean, they focus on what they need to do, but they have to know, in their job as well, I’m looking at all these other possibilities because I want to make sure they’re secure in their jobs and they have a very bright future. I want them to feel like, “Okay, Jill’s taking care of me. She’s protecting me and she’s making sure that we all have jobs to do, and we might be up cleaning airships, someday.” As strange as it sounds, it will happen, and I want to be able to be the first one to say to them, “Oh, my gosh, can you believe we’re in an airship?” I mean, Elon Musk, he’s got some really cool ideas. I mean, there’s a lot of really cool people out there, but anyway, hope that answers the question.

Belly Collins: It does, and the other side of it, though, is the one thing I think you do well, is you’re a forward thinker, but you listen to what they have to say. They may change you not to be so forward thinking or maybe, you’ll go, “Hey, actually, now I see that we can even do more.” You listen to what they have to say when it comes to forward thinking and their reservations. Then you guys come together, but you’re the ideas person and everyone knows that. That’s what’s great about it. Then you just keep moving ahead, faster and further. Even where sometimes, you can’t move fast, you just can’t because there’s so many components to it, but if you want to grow 30%, you’ve got to have even a bigger line of credit, so you have to watch that stuff. When your team comes to you and they say to you, “Hey, what are we going to do about this?” And you’re going, “We’re still going to get there, and they’re going, “Okay.” I do like the jail time thing. That’s good. That’s good.

Jill Frey: Thanks, Betty.

Belly Collins: No, but I mean, you guys work together well, and that’s why you had the success you’ve had. COVID-19- and I’m tired of talking about it, but it’s still very much a reality, of course, has changed our world. You, as a cleaning company, obviously, that’s now even a bigger, bigger deal. How have you navigated through this time and what do you think that your industry looks like in the future?

Jill Frey: Thanks for asking the question, and I agree. I am as tired with that pandemic as ever, but it has changed our life. The quote that I like to use for this is ‘what 9/11 did to buildings, COVID-19 is doing to disinfection in facilities’. I truly believe that in each- and nobody’s had a guidebook. No one’s had a book of, “Okay, this is what you do here.” It’s never existed before, and so, we had to reinvent that. I didn’t feel comfortable sending people into the office, so we sent everyone home and we had to learn to hire people. We are hiring 75 people a week, virtually. We had to put all new systems in to do that. We are sending out newsletters every other day, communication with our clients, how we’re handling their building. They wanted to know what we are using, who we were going in, if they’ve been COVID-tested. What of our regulations, what are policies and procedures based on this? We didn’t have any policies and procedures based on COVID-19. I thought it was still a beer. I thought, “Oh, it’s Corona right?”

Jill Frey: Of course, we all adapted to that, and our team was so fantastic. The information that we were sending out, our clients were telling us, is the best information that they are getting from any of their sources. It was amazing. We’ve had so many clients sending us letters of thank you; presidents of companies. “Thank you so much for cleaning our facility. We did not have a COVID outbreak,” or one of- this was a food processing plant. 40% of all food processing plants had COVID outbreaks. They said, “Thank you so much for working with us, for being our partner and making sure that in this ecosystem, that our environment is safe and protected.” Yes, cleaning is completely sexy right now. It has not been sexy before, but oh, my goodness, it is in the limelight.

Betty Collins: Yes, it is.

Jill Frey: It’s been really fun to get that attention, but it’s like, “Oh my gosh. Okay, we have attention now.” It’s making sure we are that great company. I wish I could tell you, I don’t have the amount of money that we spend on bonuses this year, but it’s astronomical, with everything that’s going on with unemployment and trying to hire people and retain people and COVID bonus, it’s unbelievable. I feel like I’m reinvesting into the company. About seven years ago, I bought about four machines. They’re called electrostatic machines. They’re by Clorox 360. Technically, these were the first generation and they’re called ByoPlanet. Clorox 360 ended up buying these rights, and so, the second generation was called Clorox 360. During this COVID time, electrostatic disinfection became hot as all get-out. If you don’t know what it is, it’s basically a charged chemical that comes out from a gun. It wraps around and disinfects a surface. I had been selling this service for seven years. Nobody wanted it. Nobody wanted to talk about it. Nobody wanted to think about it. They thought that I was an alien with this gun, that they never wanted to see again. I can tell you, those guns were $7,000 or $8,000 apiece and we bought four of them. My controller, as Betty can contribute, is very tight on money. For me, asking to spend, what, $28,000?

Betty Collins: Seven years ago.

Jill Frey: Yeah, seven years ago, he was like, “All right, Jill Frey, but we better be using these things.” I’m like, “Yeah, we’re going to use them Missy-” oh, sorry, “We’re going to use them, I promise. We’re going to use them.” Let me tell you, we have been using those guns. Now, you can’t even order them. You can’t even touch them. They’re as hot as all get-out. I can literally say we are leading the industry in disinfection and now, we have another tool that’s even going to get- not get rid of electrostatic, but it’s going to replace it in a lot of opportunities. It’s just, I was so thrilled that I got to say to my team, “You know those guns we bought seven years ago, we’re finally using them.” It was hilarious because we are using them so much, they are breaking. The batteries went dead. I felt like we are on Guardians of the Galaxy. We were trying to put the spaceship back together again. It was hilarious. We got through it. We just kept pushing and pushing because you just couldn’t find them anywhere. You couldn’t find electrostatic guns, but anyway. COVID has been a true learning curve. The office has been amazing. I’m so grateful and blessed for how much we’ve gotten through it, and gosh, I hope that 2021, I hope it’s got a brighter spot. You brought up a subject I could talk hours about. Sorry.

Betty Collins: No, but that’s what you’ve always, since I’ve known you, it’s, “We’re going to buy this product and we’re going to use it and sell it.” It takes time to take these guns and get your money back sometimes, but in that case, man, you just- now, you are definitely ahead of the game, that’s for sure.

Jill Frey: It was fun. It was really fun.

Betty Collins: That’s for sure. Let’s go into the fun question, which is, women who are forward-thinking, aggressive- we wouldn’t see them as aggressive- are not always appreciated, Jill Frey. Have you ever just experienced that pushback or get the look? I know I have. How do you handle that aspect of being a woman business-owner? Especially- you’re a forward thinker. I mean, you’re ready to go.

Jill Frey: Being a woman, my industry is a male-based industry. I mean, I’ve always been looked at as the black sheep of the family. I mean, people like to see me at conventions and they’re always kind to me, but it’s really funny when I call them and say, “Hey, I’m bidding on your facility, and it looks really bad, so you really got to clean it up in there.” “I really don’t want your facility, so if you could do a good job, I won’t take your account from you.” I’ve built a lot of respect in my industry over the time because I don’t play their games. Some people have taken accounts from me, and I’ll go in and say, “Listen, you took one of mine. That means I take three of yours, so let me know when you’re ready, because that’s going to happen.” I had one guy take me out for drinks. He had to have two Manhattans, he’s like,”Okay, stop.” I’m like, “Oh, okay.” In my opinion, it’s all about respect. You got to stand your guard and you’ve got to really stick up for who you are. I’ve been in this industry, literally, my whole life. People can try to say that they can bully me around, but I started in this industry rolling up my sleeves and working with my employees. I know how to do it. I know how to strip and wax floors. I know how to do all of that, and that’s gotten me so far ahead. I think that when you walk into a room, I mean, you can hear the passion in my voice. I get so excited about my industry and my employees and my people and what’s going on.

Jill Frey: I think if they don’t take me seriously, at the end of the day, it’s going to come back on them, just like this electrostatic gun. You know how many men I walked in and said, “Yeah, I’ve got this great gun,” and they’re like, “A gun? Really?” Now, they’re calling me, begging me to get into their facilities. I think it’s just that you have to take yourself and you take yourself seriously and just go into a room and just say, “Listen, this is what I got. If you don’t want it, the end of the day, you’re going to be the one-” I mean, you don’t say this, but you’ve got the look on your face of, “All right. Well, I tried to tell you so, but, here’s my card. When you need me, let me know.” You’re kind about it, but just, you can’t let that get to you. You got to go in, know what you can do and know what you’re good at, and then rock it out of the park. Just recently, as you know, Betty, I started a nonprofit trade organization in my industry and it’s based on IoT. I went to a leader in our trade association, said, “Hey, I got this idea. I want to create an open API standard for the globe, for technology in facilities.”

Jill Frey: He had eight other people on the phone, it was just me. They went through all eight people, and all eight of those people said, “I don’t think there’s a need for this in our industry right now. I don’t see the opportunity at all. I don’t see it.” Like, “Okay, that’s great. Would you mind to sign this non-compete form?” They said, “Nope, we have no trouble signing that.” “Okay, great.” Today, I just got off of a phone call. They want to partner with us because this is what they see as the hottest trend going internationally, and they see such a demand for it. Of course, I didn’t get a call from the main guy. I got a call from somebody else. That, when you know what you’re doing and when you- or you have a feeling that this is going to happen, just go with that gut. In your industry, you know what’s going on. You know what the trends are. You know what problems need to be fixed. That’s my fun story.

Betty Collins: I love it. I love it. That’s awesome.

Betty Collins: I always go back to my kids. I learned a long time ago when they were that lovely middle age, the middle school time. Just drove me crazy. When I would get the look from them or the rolling of the eyes or whatever they were throwing at me, I started doing it back to them. Of course, they’re middle-schoolers going, “What are you doing?” I said, “Oh, I thought we were communicating. I thought this is what we were doing.” I feel like that in business, at times, especially if you’re considered aggressive woman, and I am, a lot of the time or that I’m going to say what’s on my mind. I’m a pretty straight shooter. You’re going to get some pushback with that, as a business owner, but especially as a woman business owner. I just wanted to hear your perspective of how you do that, so thanks for sharing that story. I love it. That’s awesome. I love the fact that he called and said, “Hey, I want to be involved now.” That’s too much.

Jill Frey: I know, right?

Betty Collins: That’s cool.

Jill Frey: It crushed me. That day was just such a crushing day. Betty, you’re the same. You are so awesome. You are leading your industry and my company depends on you so much. Like I said, you’ve changed our whole company and for the better and we’ve put our complete trust in you. We knew we could. You’re that industry leader, and that is so awesome. Once you find it, it’s an amazing partnership that you’re so grateful for. We’re all in this together. We are all in this together, and we’re going to get through it together. That’s where you use your networking. I mean, just so many people you’ve introduced me to- has been amazing. You rockstar.

Betty Collins: I appreciate all those. Usually, the guest, I’m supposed to be doing that to the guest, but Jill, thank you for doing that back to me. As of what I call- you call me all the time a rock star, and I call you the same thing. As the rockstar of cleaning industry, give us your final word. What thoughts would you want to leave this audience today?

Jill Frey: I love quotes and I have a book that I journal in every day. Then when I get done with that, I have to find new quotes to put in the front of the journal. Then I live with those quotes throughout six or eight months. I have three, if that’s okay.

Betty Collins: That’s good.

Jill Frey: I had to cut it down to three. This one’s really fun. ‘Logic will get you from A to Z, imagination will get you everywhere’. That’s from Albert Einstein.

Betty Collins: Love it.

Jill Frey: ‘Opportunities to find deeper powers within ourselves come when life seems most challenging’. That’s Joe Campbell. I really like that one too. I think that one’s fantastic. This is my favorite. This quote has carried me through two books and so, it’s in my second book here, and it says, ‘the best way to predict the future is to invent it’.

Betty Collins: Nice.

Jill Frey: I truly believe that that is the best way for you to see what your future is, is you have to understand what you want and then you have to create what you want, whether that’s in your life, in your business, in whatever realm that is, create your future. That’s my favorite one right now.

Betty Collins: That’s a great way to end the podcast, especially on just forward-thinking being crucial to your success. Well, Jill, again, Jill Frey with Cummins Facility Services. If you need a good cleaning service, she’s your girl. I just appreciate your time today, getting your perspective out there and we really appreciate it. This is Betty Collins and thank you for joining today. I hope you have a great day.

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Inspiring Women, Episode 24:  Strategies For Success Using Your Own Leadership Style

August 13, 2020 by John Ray

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Inspiring Women, Episode 24:  Strategies For Success Using Your Own Leadership Style

As host Betty Collins explains, successful leadership requires a mix of knowing your values, understanding your strengths, and defining your uniqueness. This edition of “Inspiring Women” is presented by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

What does successful leadership look like? There’s so many definitions out there, but we’re well aware we’re desperate for good leadership.

When you look at successful leadership, you look at people who are pretty open and honest; good communication skills; they connect with that team member; they encourage personal and professional growth; they don’t just think that they are the only ones that should be learning and doing.

They make others better around them for sure, keeping that positive attitude. Nothing worse than working for a downer, right?

They teach employees instead of giving orders. It’s a huge, huge mindset. Some people just don’t have that ability, but that’s a successful leader. That’s what they look like.

But what about your own style in your leadership? Not everyone should be doing it the same. If you’re going to be a good leader, and you’re trying to be somebody else, you’re probably not going to be effective. You’ve got to find your style in the midst of all of it.

You’ve got to know your values. They’re traits upon which your reputation is built. They affect how you will consciously and subconsciously lead.

You’ve got to know what your strengths are. Chances are, you’re a leader because you have those certain strengths. A lot of times those strengths, too, are your weaknesses, so you have to be careful, but leverage them.

You’ve got to define your uniqueness. What sets you apart? Why are you so special?

What are your true-to-the-core motivations? In fact, what would people say you’re motivated by? When you’re figuring out your style, find out your motivation. Then, you’ve got to observe the leaders and peers around you. Who do you admire right now? Who do you look up to? But you’ve got to be you at the same time. It’s not that impossible.

Successful leadership is all about influence. It’s having followers and getting it done. But doing it on your terms, with your style, is even better. It’s the only way to do it.

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins, Brady Ware & Company

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

“Inspiring Women” is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA, and presented by Brady Ware and Company. Brady Ware is committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. Other episodes of “Inspiring Women” can be found here.

Show Transcript

Betty Collins: Today, we’re going to talk about strategies for success with your own leadership style. What does successful leadership look like? There’s so many definitions out there, but we’re well aware we’re desperate for good leadership. When you look at successful leadership, you look at people who are pretty open and honest; good communication skills; they connect with that team member; they encourage personal and professional growth; they don’t just think that they are the only ones that should be learning and doing. They make others better around them for sure, keeping that positive attitude. Nothing worse than working for a downer, right? They teach employees instead of giving orders. It’s a huge, huge mindset. Some people just don’t have that ability, but that’s a successful leader. That’s what they look like.

Betty Collins: Chances are they’re going to set clear goals with their employees, definitely expectations. People would rather know, “I’ve got to run up the hill today,’ rather than, “Well, let’s just see where we’re going to go.” Running up the hill doesn’t sound fun to me, but at least it’s clear, and I got it, and I know that’s what’s expected. Chances are they’re going to ask for feedback, as they are leader. That’s not always easy to take because you’re always going to have somebody with an opinion. A successful leader definitely looks like they’re open to new ideas. They understand their own motivation. By the way, the others around you know, probably, what you’re motivated by, so you’d better be careful with it. Good, successful leadership, they focus on impact, not just for themselves, but the whole team. They go even further. It’s about the whole organization.

Betty Collins: Those are things that successful leadership looks like, but what about your own style in your leadership? Not everyone should be doing it the same. If you’re going to being a good leader, and you’re trying to be somebody else, you’re probably not going to be effective. You’ve got to find your style in the midst of all of it. You’ve got to know your personality traits, right? I live in a very technical world at Brady Ware. It’s generally not a personable world, where I live. That happens to be something that is my strength. I can relate to people. I can talk with people. I have to be taking that style of leadership and applying it. It sets me apart. You’ve got to know a little bit about your personality. I’m not a technical person. If you had me sit in front of a computer all day, I’d be pretty tired. But, you know what? Accounting needs technicians, and entrepreneurs need advisors. Those are two very different things. So, as I understand who I am and what I’m best at, I really fit in that nice ‘entrepreneurs need advisors’ category. When you’re finding your style, you’ve got to understand those things.

Betty Collins: You’ve got to know your values. They affect how you will consciously and subconsciously lead. In my prior firm, I had a partner for many years who valued work flexibility. Well, his work flexibility … He would come in, 9:00, 9:30-ish, in that timeframe, because he enjoyed breakfast with his kids and driving them to school. Great. For the people who wanted to come in at 7:00 and leave by 4:00, he didn’t have the same respect for them, necessarily. He didn’t really value flex time because he didn’t hesitate to sit, while they were packing up their bags and even walk out to the door with them and to their car. Values are really important. No matter what you say … I love flex time … Not that that’s a value necessarily, but it’s my example. You only really enjoy flex time if you allow the others around you; you really don’t only believe it for yourself. He didn’t believe it for the employees that were there.

Betty Collins: Values, they’re traits upon which your reputation is built. I had another situation, where always talked about church, and faith, and family. That’s great, and his reputation was very, very much like that. But the close circle around him also knew that he was having an affair. So, everything that he was talking about, all those traits his reputation was built on, meant nothing. You’ve got to know your values. You can gauge someone’s personality and understand how that person thinks when you understand what they value. You really do. If my past person would have understood that the people who came in at 7:00, who wanted to leave by 3:00 because they also had families, if he would have understood they also were thinking just like him; his was just morning time, and theirs were evening. You’ve got to know that.

Betty Collins: Core values, the real core stuff – respect, impact, being authentic, courage, and integrity – those are the things that you take and put that into your style. How other ways do you find your style? Well, you’ve got to know what your strengths are. You’ve really got to look back, and go, “These are my strengths.” By the way, I would get a second opinion to make sure that those are really your strengths, because when you’re trying to find your own style, I’m going to lead completely different than my partner since 1995. We just are two very, very different people.

Betty Collins: His strengths are details, and his strengths are making sure, and driving, and all those things. My strengths were totally talking with people. “Where do you think we are? How do you think we can do this?” I just had a different approach. That was my strength. I could listen. He was more of a telling guy. There’s a time for both of those things, but you’ve got to know those strengths, and, again, get a second, maybe third opinion to make sure they really are your strength. There’s nothing worse than seeing a leader think they know how to do something, and they think it’s really good, and it’s not.

Betty Collins: Chances are, you’re a leader because you have those certain strengths. A lot of times those strengths, too, are your weaknesses, so you have to be careful. What I found at Brady Ware, truly, was as I began to really like that, hey, I’m not this technical crazy person. I’m really about entrepreneurship and advising. I’m really a personable person. I realized, too, that I started uptapping different strengths within me that have helped me be a better CPA, and they’ve helped me be a better business advisor. You’re going to have to look in … I really went through the book of, “What’s You’re Why?” by Simon Sinek. That totally changed my entire way I started doing business, how I started treating people, how I started leading. I took the “know your why” thing, which most accountants would not, and I applied that to: hey, these are my these are my characteristics and strengths that I could use and totally set myself apart.

Betty Collins: So, know those strengths, but know your weaknesses and leverage them. What does that mean? Well, when you know your weaknesses, they will affect your leadership style. Don’t be stubborn and prideful and go, “I’ve got this!” Instead, be transparent. It speaks volumes to your team, speaks volumes to your company. By the way, the people already know this about you, that you have these weaknesses … So, overcome them, great, or just realize you’re not going to and make sure you have a team member who can compensate that around you. That’s finding your style. It’s okay that you’re not going to do this part of the leadership because it’s probably not going to go well.

Betty Collins: You’ve got to define your uniqueness. What sets you apart? Why are you so special? There’s three tough questions that I think you have to really answer honestly. First one, what do I really do for the people around me? I’ll say it again. What do I really do for the people around me? I had to really think about that. So, what do I do for my team as I’m leading it? Because I kind of have a team within Brady Ware. What am I genuinely passionate about? For sure, the client experience; for sure, small business. I have to take that and go, “Okay, boom …” How does what I do and what am I passionate about- how do you combine that to make a fantastic difference to another person, or another client, or the peers in your office? How do you do that?

Betty Collins: I came across this formula, which I think is hilarious. What I’m just saying can be wrapped up beautifully like this: My brilliance – what I do – plus my passion is your gain. How does that sound? I read that, and went, “That’s perfect!” Really, when you’re defining your uniqueness, it isn’t just that, “Hey, I’m just loud and I talk too much.” I’m not talking about that uniqueness. I’m talking about what sets you apart to add to your success when you’re trying to be a leader, and you’re trying to do it with your own style. What do you do, and what are you passion about, and how are you going to combine those to really have impact? Again, my brilliance plus my passion is your gain. I love it.

Betty Collins: When you’re talking about your own style, you’ve got to come up with a few things. What are your true-to-the-core motivations? In fact, what would people say you’re motivated by? My children, this Mother’s Day, decided to give me a coffee cup, or actually, it was for was my birthday, that was huge. It’s probably, honestly, a half a gallon. On the outside of it, it says, “More.” So, I would say, easily, that my true-to-the-core motivation, according to my children, is I always want more. They got me this big cup; they think they’re so funny.

Betty Collins: Those around you think they probably know what your motivation is, but I would tell you, motivation is the reason behind all of your actions. It’s behind every desire, thought, needs. Hopefully, you can relate to this example. I’m working with a new training client at the gym, and they tell me they want to burn fat, and they want to lose weight. I ask immediately, why? The first answer is usually something like this: “Oh, because I want to be healthy. I want to look better.” So, I continue on. I want to know, why are they really motivated to be here, and that’s a really generic answer. So, I continue on, and I say, “So, why do you want to be healthy and look better?” At this point, they usually get a little embarrassed because, well, why wouldn’t I want to look better? So, at this point, I sit back in my chair, I take a breath, and I try to make them comfortable, but I’m going to dig deeper. I’m going to get to that. “What motivated you to come all the way to the gym, set an appointment with me, and you want to dedicate all this time to losing weight?” Again, I’m not letting them off the hook.

Betty Collins: After some squirming and a few more attempts to brush me off, the truth usually comes out. They might want to lose some fat, but it could be that they haven’t been asked out in a long time. They haven’t had some intimacy. They want to be more attractive. Their parent recently died of obesity that’s related to disease; or maybe they want to have a baby and they have to be healthier. I know, for me, I went through a weight loss this year, and I did have to dig down. I had to get a better reason than I’ve got to get on a diet; I can’t do this. Part of my reasoning, really, at the end of the day, was twofold. I have a grandson who I want to keep up with, and I have 10 more years to work. I’m very healthy, and I have so many people around me who are not. I have this gift, so, I’m motivated to take care of it.

Betty Collins: What are your true-to-the-core motivations? I mean, not just weight loss – everybody can do that – but in business, as you want to be that successful leader, as you want to do it with your own style, you really have to ask what those motivations are, and you have to keep digging deeper til you get to the real ones. Then, the people around you that you’re leading, probably, will follow differently. So, keep asking why til get to the truth. I’ve got to make money. Okay, why do you have to make money?

Betty Collins: Honestly, probably, one of the biggest time periods of my career in accounting was when I had the motivation to put my children through college. I did not work harder than those years because I wanted them to have that experience, and I didn’t have a lot of time. So, you’ve got to get to that. My core motivation- I rose up, and I became much more of a leader. I needed people to follow me to be successful. It’s just a point I want- when you’re figuring out your style, find out your motivation. Then, you’ve got to observe the leaders and peers around you. I mean, who do you admire right now? Who do you look up to? But you’ve got to be you at the same time. It’s not that impossible.

Betty Collins: Strategies to bring success and style together- we’re talking about leading success, whatever you put your success in. Then, I want to do it on my terms. By the way, if you think, “I’m really not a leader,” you are. We all lead. You’ve got to do continual assessment of where you are. Disengagement and stagnant? Man, game over, if there’s no new players or plays, right? I would tell you, a continual assessment is key to success. Try something different. Don’t do the norm. Is this part of your style now? You should maybe try these things. You’ve got to pay attention to the people around you that you’re trying to lead and not just be talking and telling. You’ve got to provide purpose and sense of belonging.

Betty Collins: One of the things I really emphasize with the team that I work with is not so much: did we get this done? Did we meet the deadline? It’s did the client get served? That’s a different purpose. Strategies to bring that success and style together … Also, you’ve got to try sometimes just some radical transparency. I’m not telling you to tell your story and divulge everything, but secrecy can really create a basis of mistrust. When you just put enough cards on the table just to get by instead of just putting it all out there, it can do a lot of mistrust and confusion.

Betty Collins: Then, another thing we don’t see a lot today – this is not of the norm – is what can I do for you? What can I do for you to make this day easier? What can I do for you to make sure this gets done? I’m not an admin person, but if I need to do admin work to make it easier to get where we need to go, I’m going to do it. Then, you’ve got to create a safe place. Those are different things that you don’t see a lot when you’re talking about your style, and leadership, and success, because those are more things about you giving than, “This is my team, and I’m going to run this, and I’m going to lead.” So, think about those things.

Betty Collins: Another strategy is just honest feedback from you. If you’ve got to have those conversations in your head, it’s okay. Maybe from your team, from your peers, certainly from mentors. Feedback is huge. Another strategy is recognize signs of poor leadership strategy. What does that mean? If nobody on your team has criticized you about one of your ideas in the past month, you probably don’t have any ideas. You really need to think about that. You maybe need to spend more time planning your own career progression than theirs. Their career is theirs; yours is yours. Poor leadership generally is trying to direct somebody so that they are doing what you want them to do. Poor signs of leadership: you haven’t had at least three completely non-work-related conversations with your team members. When’s the last time you heard about the kids and another things?

Betty Collins: I had this client who, part of their leadership strategy – he was the CFO – is how you approach people. I went into his office, and it said, “Before we talk business, I want to do these things. Ask me about my wife and my kids.” That was a top priority for him. That’s a good sign of someone who’s successful. Your team members, if they’re afraid to fail and live in fear, you’ve got some work to do. You’ve got some poor leadership strategy that’s not happening. I would tell you to recognize those signs and look around.

Betty Collins: You know what? You don’t know everything. In fact, you don’t know what you don’t know. When you want to succeed, one of the strategies – you especially want to succeed with your style, right? – ask yourself, how is this working? If you’re drawing a blank, it’s probably not working. I had somebody who was so funny; they kept talking about wanting to be a spiritual person. He’s Muslim, and he was reading the Koran. I said, “So, why aren’t you spiritual? You’re reading the Koran,” and he said, “I don’t know.” I said, “Well, is it working for you?” He goes, “It really isn’t.” I said, “You might want to read something else, you know?” The strategy comes back to how is it working? You really assess that and say, “I’ve got to do something different.” We all know what the definition of insanity is, right? You keep doing the same things over.

Betty Collins: Here’s one of the things that you have to … If you feel like you’re not being taken serious, what’s the strategy? Well, here’s what I would tell you. If you don’t want to end up at the circus, stop acting like a clown. Two great examples of this is Susan Boyle. Love her voice. She was on America’s Got Talent with Simon. I remember watching that, when she came out on stage. She looked completely- she didn’t own the stage. She came out just goofy. She had no presence. She mumbled around. Of course, the judges are all looking … We don’t know what’s reality TV and what isn’t. Then, she sang. Wow. I mean, everyone was mesmerized. For her- there’s a lot of singers. It takes beyond just being talented.

Betty Collins: Now, you see her, it’s nothing like that. She went through a whole thing. It was a big appearance, and her demeanor, and how she talked, and unfortunately … I don’t know why I always remember her coming out like that. Then you look at how far she came because she got the right direction; she got the right guidance. So, if you want to be taken seriously, sometimes you have to do that. Obviously, she did that. She also won a million dollars, and she’s probably beyond. But I will just never forget, how would anyone take her seriously? Now, when she sang, they took her seriously.

Betty Collins: Then I think of another singer, Aretha Franklin, who’s really my favorite. I watched her sing to President Obama, and her stage presence, her talent was like she was 20; yet she’s in her 70s. She had a lifetime of experience and she showed it. It was a completely different thing. I hadn’t really seen any clips of her, or I haven’t been that interested in her. Now, of course, everything’s on YouTube and Facebook. So, my first seeing of her really singing like that, I was like, wow. I don’t have a bad impression or anything, but I took her seriously because she owned the stage from the time she got on there.

Betty Collins: So, if you want to be taken seriously as a leader, even if you have … Susan Boyle’s style was just to kind of be goofy and come out and do her thing and then, she just figured singing would be enough. Now, in her case, it was because she was beyond talented. Successful leadership, at the end of the day, it’s all about influence. It’s having followers and getting it done but doing it on your terms with your style is even better. It’s the only way to do it.

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Inspiring Women, Episode 23: An Interview with Haley Boehning, Storyforge

July 14, 2020 by John Ray

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Host Betty Collins, Brady Ware, and Haley Boehning, Storyforge

Inspiring Women, Episode 23: An Interview with Haley Boehning, Storyforge

On this edition of “Inspiring Women,” host Betty Collins speaks with Haley Boehning, Storyforge, on why stories are so important in client marketing, employee engagement, and other essential company functions. The “Inspiring Women” series is underwritten by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

“When you have a story — the right story — everything changes. Customers become evangelists. Employees fully engage. Decision-making simplifies. Innovation accelerates. And marketing costs go down.” That’s what you find when you go to Storyforge’s website. I had the honor of interviewing Haley Boehning, Co-Founder and Principal of Storyforge.

“We call it a meaningful story.” And that’s what she does best.  Help businesses find their story, their higher purpose.  And when their clients discover it, it’s, as she puts it, “knock over the table” time and run out to tell the world.

I talk to Haley about:

  • The Storyforge story
  • Her story
  • The Storyforge concept and what their clients do with their story to make a difference
  • Why women can’t wait around
  • What she has learned from being a business owner
  • What would today’s Haley tell a younger Haley if she had the chance
  • Conscious Capitalism and its four tenets

Haley has decades of experience working with Fortune-500 companies, non-profits and start-ups to create alignment, elevate storytelling and build differentiated brand positions. She is a regular speaker, lecturer and author on the subject of leadership, communication and conscious capitalism.

Prior to Storyforge, Haley spent 16 years with L Brands (NYSE: LB), most recently as vice president of internal communications, directly supporting the company’s founder/CEO in strategic, leadership and internal communications to connect with 100,000 employees around the globe. As internal communications function head for the enterprise, she and her team were also responsible for all change communications including mergers, acquisitions, reorganizations and reductions in force.

Haley is chair of Conscious Capitalism Columbus, a member of the international Conscious Capitalism Inc. Community Advisory Council and a founding member of The Matriots, Ohio’s first multi-partisan PAC dedicated to electing more women to public office. She is a member and chapter sponsor of The National Association of Women Business Owners and was named to Columbus CEO’s 2020 Future 50 list, recognizing her as a leader with the ideas, energy and heart to move the region forward in the critical decade ahead.

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins, Brady Ware & Company

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

“Inspiring Women” is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA, and presented by Brady Ware and Company. Brady Ware is committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. Other episodes of “Inspiring Women” can be found here.

Show Transcript

Today, I get to do an interview for my podcast. I like to do that at times. I’m fortunate enough to live in Columbus, Ohio, and there’s just a lot of women in business, or women business owners that either have a great story; they’ve had success. I could do podcasts weekly just on that. Columbus is a thriving town.

Today, I really wanted to interview Haley Boehning. She’s the co-founder of Storyforge. I’ve gotten to experience Storyforge – just go through that – through an organization I’m involved with, which is NAWBO, which is the Columbus Charter. NAWBO is the National Association of Women Business Owners. We’re the Columbus chapter, and we’re the largest chapter … Like any organization, you go through crossroads in time, where you’re like, “Which way do we go? We can do 100 things, or maybe we should do two things really well.” She came in, her, and her firm, to help us get on the same page, so that’s been my experience.

Welcome today, Haley. We’re glad that you’re with us. We’re going to talk about several things, but I tell you, I love your website. I had looked at it probably a year ago, when we started this whole thing, or probably six months ago, whatever it was, with helping NAWBO get on the same page and tell our story. I love your line … As soon as you click on it, it says, “When you have a story, the right story, everything changes.” The other thing that caught my attention, I loved: “Customers become evangelists.” That’s just … First of all, you don’t hear that word a lot – evangelists. “Employees get fully engaged.” That’s become a very hot topic, if you can achieve that; and, “Decision-making gets simplified,” which, we’re on 24/7. So, man, that could be awesome. “Innovation accelerates,” and, at the end of the day, “Your marketing costs go down.” That’s awesome. Haley, I want you to first tell us a little about Storyforge, and then, I want to talk a little bit about your story, so go ahead.

Well, thank you for having me. It’s always a delight to talk with you, and we could probably talk for four hour, so getting this into a couple of minutes will be challenging for us. Storyforge was founded by my business partner, and I about six years ago. It came out of some insights that both of us had had separately throughout our careers about what made businesses successful. Because I had worked in a large corporate environment for 17 years doing a lot of mergers and acquisitions; I had seen hundreds of businesses and noticed differences between them. Those that were successful; those that were able to really succeed and come out the other end of a crisis stronger; and those for whom a crisis, or a challenge, or growth, even some of those positive things would see these businesses crumble and fall.

My business partner had been on the marketing side. I had seen it from an internal side, and he from an external side. As we began talking about our observations, and our beliefs in business, this idea about what story can do for you, as an organization, began to form, and the clarity that we got, through studying hundreds of businesses, has proven itself to be true over the last six years. We’ve worked with hundreds of companies, and we found that there are a few pieces of a company’s story that, when they have these pieces in place, when they’re clear about them, and they’ve had the insights necessary to articulate them, it makes all the difference.

Sure. I get that because it really did with NAWBO, when we … All the sudden, I could go talk differently. Are we doing anything different? I don’t think it’s how we say it, it’s how we talk about ourselves. It’s how we get that.

Well, you said it earlier. It’s also that decision-making. Every business, every organization has a story. The question is whether they’ve been intentional about forming that story, and if they’ve let the world create the story for them, because your story, your brand, is really a collection of all the stories – the stories you tell about yourself and the stories that other people tell about you. You can let that happen in the universe, or you can try to influence it by being very clear, yourself, about who you are, what you’re trying to achieve, what you believe, what you stand for, and what it is that you, as a business, do that’s unique; what differentiates you from all of your competitors in the marketplace.

Tell us about your story of entrepreneurship.” I took this 17-year, maybe safe deal, and said, ‘I’m doing this …'” Tell your story with that.

Yeah, I often call myself an accidental entrepreneur.

That would be 50 percent of them.

50 percent, yeah. I don’t come from a family of entrepreneurs. It always seemed like a crazy idea that risk-takers – which, I don’t consider myself a risk-taker – would endeavor to try to become … It was a strange animal. I had the opportunity, after this 17-year career in the corporate world, to rethink what I wanted to do with my life, which is a wonderful gift. Being able to consider what unique skills I had … What are my superpowers that I can bring to the world, and how do I want to apply those superpowers to help others. Storyforge- the idea of creating a business like Storyforge came from that; this desire to do meaningful work – meaningful for me, meaningful for my clients, but also meaningful for the world around us – was really born from that.

Something that has intrigued me is, because I’m an accountant, I don’t even think I have a story, but I do. I know I do … But the name Storyforge being one … I always like to know where that came from. How did that come together?

Well, it’s interesting. In our process, as we work through our process with businesses, there are a lot of amazing raw materials. So that’s part of our discovery, and you’ll remember this, as we worked together, was digging in and understanding the objective realities of business, and learning about our stakeholders, and mapping them, and understanding the beliefs and the vision that was there at the founding of whatever our business was. All of these great raw materials are just raw materials. They’re inert. When you forge them together, they become an even stronger material than they were in their incomplete parts.

Yeah.

For me, as I think about Storyforge, that’s what it is. Often people forge their stories from the outside in. I have people call me regularly and say, “Do I need an Instagram account?” “How can I better improve my digital marketing?” All questions that I cannot answer, not because I’m not qualified to, but because I don’t understand what their businesses is intending to do. Without having those fundamental answers, without understanding the DNA of your business and what you’re really trying to achieve, all of those tactical questions are meaningless.

When I think of forging, there- my husband likes that show Fire Forge, where they’re making the knives. I hate the show, but I watch it … The one thing I always look at is when they they’re working hard … Of course, it’s reality TV, so none of it’s reality, right? But when they dip it in the fire, and it comes out, the piece is solid now. There’s something about that. When I think of your forge, I think of the same thing – that the story has come together, and now … Wow.

Yeah. We call it, and you’ll remember this because you were there for that moment with our NAWBO work, we call it the kicking over the tables moment. It’s the moment where the discovery has been completed, and we’ve done the hard work as a leadership team to debate and have really intensive dialogues about do we want A, or B, C, or D? Are we going this way or that way? We codify our thinking about those essential questions of the business. When it all comes together, when it’s all forged, it is like going in that water and coming out a stronger metal – a forged story. We often have to hold leaders back because they want to kick the tables out, run out the door, and start screaming it from the mountaintops.

But there is a second important phase to this work, and that’s where many businesses actually fail in this work. It’s not necessarily not forging the correct story, but figuring out what to do with the story, after you have it. Because a really, truly meaningful story is not just a story that’s told, but it’s a story that’s lived. That’s the work that I know the board of NAWBO is doing right now is thinking about all the different aspects of the organization – from people, to process, to place, to positioning, to philanthropy – and making sure that what we do is in alignment with what we say.

Well, one of the thing … You have a definite passion for women. We experienced that from the beginning of time, when you were interviewing the board, and we were going through it. One of the things that I loved that you said to us – because we were talking about the different … Why we’re on the board? We’re women in business. Why are we business owners? All those things. One of the things you said to me that I never stopped thinking about was, “Let’s not wait another decade to accomplish something as women.” I’ve thought about that ever since we talked about that.

So, your passion for women and your passion for the time is now is so there. Tell me what … Because I’m looking at, we just started a new decade, so everyone’s saying that; it’s kind of the buzzword. It’s my last decade to work. Sometimes, I say that out loud, and I go, “Oh … Yay!” Then, I go, “Oh … Did I do enough? Did I get what I needed? Did I …?” All those things come to play, where you’re thinking about legacy and stuff. But, for you, what would you love- as a woman business owner, and someone who doesn’t want us to wait 10 years or a hundred, what’s on your mind when you think about those things that you don’t want to see us wait, and let’s execute? It’s a tough question, but …

Yeah, something I think I see a lot – but especially with women business owners, with many entrepreneurs, but especially women – is we keep our nose to the grindstone. We’re in the day-to-day operations of the business and trying to make things incrementally better every day. We don’t often give ourselves the luxury of stepping back, pulling up our head, looking out at the horizon, and saying, not, “Where do I want to be this week, next week, this quarter, next quarter?” but what does 10 years from now look like? What do I want my legacy to be? What do I want to have accomplished? There is something to that truism that we underestimate what we can do in 10 years, and overestimate what we can do in one.

Yes, that’s a great saying!

I try to keep that in mind, especially when I’m working with our clients, because we … People think too small, sometimes. To be able to swing for the fences, we have to look out in the distance to be able to get there. We can’t just look at the day-to-day operations. So, I think, for me, for women business owners, I would love to see more of us give ourselves that opportunity to reflect, to think long term, to think big, sustainable growth for our business and sustainable impact for our stakeholders, for our customers, our clients, our families, ourselves. What are we really working toward? What’s all this about?

Say that one more time – not the whole thing … Say it one more time. So, we overthink- we do too much in a year, but not enough in … Say that again? I love the way you say that-

Yeah, we often … I know I do this. Every day, I overestimate what I think I can get done in a day. I leave every day with things on my to-do list. It’s just typical. So, we overestimate what we can do in a year, but we underestimate what we can do in 10.

Right, I love that [crosstalk]

-that often keeps us thinking in short-term-ism, rather than really thinking long term.

Everybody goes to their own school. Haley went to the Hard Knocks of Haley, or you got your MBA, and something that, “Oh, I wasn’t expecting to learn this, but I did …” In these last six years, especially from going from corporate America to you’re now a business owner … For me, it was a huge change when I just wanted to be an employee. I wanted somebody signing my check. I didn’t want to be the signer, right? Tell us maybe a thing or two of what you learned, getting that MBA in the last six years of business, that you would want a woman-owned business owner to know.

It’s interesting. There was a moment, for me, when I left the corporate world. I was with a group of other executives, V.P.s and above, from businesses that were transitioning out of their prior careers and into their new one. We were sitting around a table doing introductions, and everyone introduced themself the same way. They said, “Hello, my name is Haley Boehning, and I used to be the Vice President of Internal Communications at [crosstalk].” “Hi, my name is Ted Smith, and I was the Chief Financial Officer of Blank Company.”

This went around about 12 people. Then, it came to me, and I said, “We’ve got to stop doing this. We have to stop defining ourselves by the title that we have – CEO, entrepreneur, vice president. We have to rethink how we define ourselves and our identity. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could think about what our unique skill set is – the thing that we do better than anyone else – that exists at an intersection of a need in the world that we now can uniquely fill. If we could talk about ourselves that way, wouldn’t that be more meaningful, and wouldn’t that help us frame our identity around something bigger than a paycheck?”

What did the 12 people around the table do? They go, “Uhh …”

There was a lot of that [crosstalk] but it did change. If you ask people the right questions, they will give you far more meaningful answers.

What’s something you really feel like, in the last- in your career, in general- I know, for me, I look back and say I wish I would have been an owner sooner. I wish I would have jumped into entrepreneur sooner. When you look back over your career, over this stuff that you’ve accomplished, what do you look back and go, “If I had to do it again, what would I say to Haley, who was 30, and 40?” What would you … Is there anything that comes your mind when you think about …?

I think maybe two different Haleys. If I could go back to the Haley in her 20s, starting out in the corporate world and looking at all of these people with these very big titles, with these very big offices, at the time, I thought that being a leader meant having all the answers and that, somehow, if I worked hard enough, and if I learned everything I could learn, and I had the right mentors, that someday, I, too, could be a leader and have all the answers. Now, I realize that being a leader doesn’t mean having the answers. It means having the  questions.

Yes.

I think that-

Very good.

That insight could have served me well in my 20s. When I started the business, if I think about those early days of Storyforge, there were two lessons that I learned that now we apply, and it’s made all the difference. One is to be very, very clear about who you are, what you stand for, who you serve, and how you serve them and be willing to say no to clients. Because I’m a people pleaser. I like people to be happy. But that’s not the best approach, when you’re a business owner, or when you’re in sales, or doing business development. It’s really making sure that you’re the right fit for that client and that the client’s the right fit for you.

Very good. Great insight. Now, I’ve known you for a little while and I’ve heard you talk about an organization that you’re very involved with. I know enough about it to be dangerous, but I love the title – Conscious Capitalism.

Yes.

I would love for you to talk about that because I’m a big fan of the marketplace. The marketplace in our country is crucial. It’s not about how much money can we make, or greed, any of those things. To me, it is if you have an idea and a passion, you have the ability to do it, and you have of an environment that allows you to do it. If you’re fortunate enough, you, one day, have employees because you’re an employer. Those employees have families, which are households that form communities. It all works together. When the U.S. is successful, the country is successful, the world is because we have the abilities here to do things. When it’s mixed with really bad things, it doesn’t do well; but when it’s really good, it’s really good. I’m a huge fan of I get to be a CPA in this environment, in this country, and do things. I’m very intrigued by what is this organization, so I’d like for you to talk about that.

Well, thank you for asking about that, because I am very passionate about Conscious Capitalism, and I love the combination of the two words.

Mm-hmm. Yes.

When I go out, and I speak with audiences, generally, each audience has some concern with one of those two words. Either I’m in an audience of people that say, “Oh, capitalism … Of course. Fantastic. Best thing since sliced bread. What’s this consciousness word you keep throwing in there? What’s this woo-woo you’re trying to add to my capitalism?”

What’s that guilt thing [crosstalk]

-but when I talk with younger people … I was recently out at Denison University talking with some of their Commerce Department, and there were a lot of students who said, “Consciousness, absolutely. Capitalism? I’m not so sure about that word.” But when you ask them what they want to do when they grow up, they all want to be business people. They all want to be entrepreneurs. But capitalism, itself, has a big PR problem right now.

It does.

Conscious Capitalism was born from a book that was written by two gentlemen who you probably have heard of: John Mackey, the founder of Whole Foods, and Raj Sisodia, who is a Professor of Business at Babson College. It was codifying a way of thinking about business that wasn’t just John’s idea. It was a number of different business leaders had been practicing business this way, recognizing that business both can and should be a force for good in the world; that capitalism, itself, is one of the greatest inventions that we’ve had and has done more to lift people out of poverty than many things in the last couple hundred years, but that people have misused capitalism.

Yeah.

Because of that, we have a crisis on our hands. We need to reinvent capitalism. There’s been a lot of talk recently. Just as recently, I think, as this week, Jamie Dimon was talking about reinventing capitalism in Time Magazine. We know that the Business Roundtable has come out and redefined the purpose of business to include a purpose bigger than profitability because they see the cracks in this system. We believe that business is good because it creates value; at its most essential, it creates value. It’s ethical because it’s based on voluntary exchange.

Sure.

It’s noble because we know that when done more consciously, business can actually elevate our existence, and that’s the world that we want to create. Conscious Capitalism is an international movement. There are hundreds of thousands of people all around the globe, from Sydney to Columbus, Ohio- Sydney, Australia to Columbus, Ohio, all working to advance this idea of business as a force for good.

We think about business in terms of four principles. The first, which I’ve already mentioned, is that business should have a purpose bigger than profitability. Profitability is necessary; without margin, there’s no mission. But the purpose of the business should be to solve some need in the world and that profitability helps to drive that. Just like I need red blood cells every day to live, it’s not my reason for existence. I don’t get up every day and think, “Thank God, another day I can create red blood cells!” That idea of purpose, a purpose bigger than profitability, is the first tenet.

The second is stakeholder orientation – understanding that a business doesn’t just have one stakeholder, the shareholder; it has multiple stakeholders – employees, community, shareholders, investors, partners, vendors. All of these stakeholders need to be considered, and when we have an orientation to them, when we understand and are thoughtful about the impact and the value that we create for each of them, we’re more conscious. Then, understanding that both leadership and culture have an important role to play in the success of business.

I have two kids who said, “I will never be in business. I would never be a CPA,” and they made sure of that. I have a daughter who’s a teacher because it’s what she loves, and I have a son who is a minister because that’s what he loves. My daughter is more like me – she’s a spender. She’s one of those consumers, right? But my son and I have had long debates on capitalism, and I always remind him that, “Capitalism put you through college. Please remember that …” because it did. He will tell me, “I just need provision from somebody so I can do what I do in life.” We both see it, and we talk more about- we’re coming together more with it because there is good capitalism out there. The marketplace is so very, very necessary.

When NAWBO met with- a roundtable with Governor DeWine, I just said the marketplace has to really be held high so that the taxation can do more than just run our government. There’s tremendous need out there. There are people who can’t do and have what I have. It’s a system that has to work really well, and when it’s not run well, it’s a bad deal. I really learned about … When I came to Brady Ware in 2012, one of the things I did was read Simon Sinek’s book and did the Why University, and I had somebody help me come together. I came up with my whole why being – because I have 150 employees who are families who need health insurance, who need to live in- to have provision that forms those communities and households. It just became a whole new way to think about it.

So, then it wasn’t just accounting. Accounting is just a part of it. It’s a necessary evil that business has to have that. I’ve always loved that you’ve talked about that, and I would love to know more about it, so I wanted my audience to hear about it, as well. Because my son’s generation, the denizens that you’re talking about – he’s 28 years old – will eat chicken at Joe DeLoss’s place because he understands Joe DeLoss and what their whole social enterprise is. That’s huge for him-

Yeah. Joe DeLoss, and Hot Chicken Takeover being a local company that makes some damned fine Nashville hot chicken-

It’s awesome.

-but more importantly than that, they’re a business that was created to employ people who are difficult to employ – people who’ve been in the- who’ve been incarcerated, who are coming back into the workforce – that many other companies would overlook. I think we’re beginning to- we’re beginning to have a realization and insight as a country about the power of business, when business thinks more consciously about who does it employ, why does it employ, how does it employ? We can make a difference where we have more in common than not. We really do. There’s so much more that binds us together. Unfortunately, there’s a lack of civility, I think, in conversation, today, which often polarizes us.

Right.

But when we get down to the brass tacks of it, we all want the same things. We want communities that are thriving. We want families that are thriving. We want to leave the world a better place when we go. We want it to be better than it was when we found it, and-

It’s why I love working for Brady Ware, getting to be … Getting to even have a women’s initiative that we can … They put a lot of resource and time in. This podcast is one of those resources. It goes just beyond that, and it goes so beyond accounting. I think that’s where you see things going. There is still reality of paying the lease, and the electric; and people want to be paid well because they did spend a lot on an education, or they want to be valued, or they have goals, as well. It all wraps together, but-

Well, I’m sure you see it with your clients because you do work with so many small businesses. There’s good that business does just by being in business-

Yeah, absolutely.

Employing people by enabling people to send kids to school, enabling people to care for their elderly parents – all of the things that having a job and doing that job well enable you to do. A lot of businesses have trouble seeing a purpose bigger than just that. But we have worked with hundreds of businesses over the last six years at Storyforge. There has not been one single business that we have worked with that has not been able to articulate a purpose higher than profitability. We have worked with toilet manufacturers.

There you go.

We have worked with distilleries, and we’ve worked with accounting firms. All of them were able to find this more emotional, meaningful story about what they did that helped unite their teams and helped them think differently about how they serve their customers.

Well, this podcast is Inspiring Women, and I think we had a very inspiring woman today. I appreciate your passion, certainly, for women, for what you’ve done with NAWBO, just telling our story. Forging – I love the force of just that word. I can picture the knife going down in the- whatever they’re putting it in, I’m assuming. Then, just putting business owners, women in business, men in business, doesn’t matter … It’s this two words of conscience and capitalism together. Thank you for spending time with us today. We appreciate your efforts in coming and making time because you’re busy and you do what you do well. I’m Betty Collins, and I appreciate the opportunity that I get to do a podcast; that you get to listen to us today and check us out on our website. Thanks.

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Inspiring Women, Episode 22: Silencing Your Self Doubt

June 16, 2020 by John Ray

Silencing Your Self Doubt
Inspiring Women PodCast with Betty Collins
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Silencing Your Self DoubtInspiring Women, Episode 22:  Silencing Your Self Doubt

Silencing your self doubt is something many women struggle with. As host Betty Collins explains, words are important in this struggle, both those of your inner voice and the words you use with others. This edition of “Inspiring Women” is presented by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

Finding and owning your voice.

Strengthening your inner confidence.

It’s your identity expressing itself. It’s your personality, and it’s your individual message to the world.

I believe that there is power in that feminine voice, and it’s missing in too many conversations. From the business environment – your office, the marketplace, the boardroom, to politics, and in our homes. If we are there, it’s so crucial that the voice is heard.

In this episode, I hope to help you to move forward in owning your voice, and claiming that power.

Of course, if it’s only for the greater good.

You first have to recognize you probably have something valuable to say. You have to be strategic, though, about what you say and when you say it. Don’t speak for the sake of speaking. Be sure that you speak thoughtfully, in an engaging manner, when you want to be heard.

Words really matter.

People’s perception and how they’ve heard you is your of choice of words. Speaking isn’t just saying what you want. Speaking isn’t just having your voice. Words matter to make things happen.

You must be willing to speak up when something goes against what has a deep value for you. Silence in those moments really talks about your character. And be prepared for possible backlash when you do. Criticism comes with being a leader, regardless of your gender. The labels, and the name-calling have very little to do with you, personally. It’s really about how uncomfortable you’re making some people. Don’t take it personally, and just move on.

When you’re finding your voice, it’s one step at a time. Slow and steady.

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins, Brady Ware & Company

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

“Inspiring Women” is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA, and presented by Brady Ware and Company. Brady Ware is committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. Other episodes of “Inspiring Women” can be found here.

Show Transcript

Betty Collins: [00:00:00] Today, we’re going to get really, really deep, and I’m going to start with this quote that you’ll have to think about several times. I wrote it from my perspective, but we’ll start with the quote, a little quote, and we’ll see what you think. “Our doubts are traitors and make us lose the good we oft might win by fearing to attempt,” by William Shakespeare.

Betty Collins: [00:00:25] I’m feeling so smart today because I have this big quote from William Shakespeare. But if Betty Collins was going to write this, it would be, “Doubts being traitors – ponder on that for a while –  while losing out on what we could be or could have been, too afraid to even attempt.” That’s my breakdown of it. I do want to talk about it, though. I don’t want to be Debbie Downer today on silencing that self-doubt. That’s why we’re going to talk about your only competition is you, so we end on something very positive of how you can deal with self-doubt, because it is self-infliction, by the way.

Betty Collins: [00:01:01] A lot of it, you have to deal with the inner voices that feed it. You should be your only competitor, and sometimes, you have to know what to do with those voices, so we’re going to talk about that. Self-doubt is fed by the inner voice and, of course, self-inflicted, as I’ve said. That means you, then, are the driver. You’re the one that’s making it go. It can be really destructive if you listen. It can have no power over you, though, if you listen when it’s correct and shut it down when it’s wrong. It’s all an intentional choice and can only be made by you.

Betty Collins: [00:01:36] If there’s one struggle that I have had in life, it is probably self-doubt – the continual questioning that ends up paralyzing me, which results in me doing nothing or not going forward. This podcast is personal today, which is probably why it took me a while to write it and it was harder to write. Maybe you’re like most people … There’s very few people that, by the way, don’t have this, but they fear rejection, or they just can’t ask them. It may come down to you just not feeling like you’re enough. Possibly you, yourself, or as someone you could have been, or maybe you don’t deserve the success in most areas of your life … Do you feel like you haven’t lived up to your potential yet? Of course, I’m 56. I certainly hope I’ve had some- lived up to some of my potential. You get quite often discouraged by what you’ve accomplished in your life. Fun stuff, but I feel like it’s something we all need to face..

Betty Collins: [00:02:33] What do we do? The first step is you’ve got to tackle the inner voice that is feeding and fueling your self-doubt. You’re the key to controlling that. Here are a few things that I came up with that have worked for me, for sure, in this area. You have to stay strong and be resilient even in the tough days, in your rough times. You know what? Life is just not always easy, and it’s not always simple. Sorry. It is true that life is like a box of chocolates. You just never know what you’re going to get.

Betty Collins: [00:03:03] So, you’ve got to stay strong and be resilient. As my daughter, Erika, would say, “Cry about it, mom.” We laugh, but she’s right. You’ve got to handle criticism and the negative people who lash out at you in a more understanding and level-headed way. We’re all fortunate enough to have that one person, right? You know who they are, right? Maybe you are that person. I don’t know. But when someone’s really negative and critical, they can create a lot of self-doubt, and, man, your inner voices will hash that over, and over again, like all that they’re saying is true and all of it’s right. It’s exhausting, especially when that happens around 3:00 in the morning.

Betty Collins: [00:03:48] Instead of just believing everything that they say … Or you can think they’re crazy and ignore them. You’ve got to handle that criticism by a quick assessment, like immediate, which means you have to realize it’s there, but you have to get input from others sometimes. Then, you either thank them for helping you see the light and you make the necessary changes to be better because sometimes criticism’s necessary in your life; or you just ignore them, and smile, and move on.

Betty Collins: [00:04:18] Detox is sometimes necessary, but not always realistic in your life. Some of those people are around and maybe removing them just isn’t an option. Generally, negative, critical people, they also have self-esteem problems of their own, so they lash out at you to feel better. If they are in your life, remove them, and if it’s not an option, be ready. Take the wind out of their sail and be ready for the next time because it will happen again.

Betty Collins: [00:04:45] Here’s an example of this. I had a previous partner years ago who really always loved being critical and giving his opinion when not asked. It was all the time. There was never anything good, and everyone cringed around him. I realized he was constantly defeating me, and then I would just constantly doubt that I could do what I do. So, one day, I just calmly said to him, “You’re done talking to me that way. You know what your biggest angst is? It’s that I’m not a shareholder, but I’m treated like one. You crave to be respected as a shareholder, and you’re not, and you are one. So, don’t talk to me that way. I’m respected, and you will be doing the same thing with me.”

Betty Collins: [00:05:36] I took the wind right out of his sail, before he went into his long barrage of criticism. After that point, he had a different way of talking to me. I did think it through a little bit before I said it, but he got my message pretty quickly. Take the wind out of their sail or get them out of your life. There are going to be people who are critical, and sometimes, you know what? You need criticized. Sometimes, you do need to be told. But don’t let it get to you. Don’t hash it over at 3:00 in the morning, every time.

Betty Collins: [00:06:09] You have to really stop dragging yourself down by always comparing yourself to other people and their lives. Oh, yes, the comparison game. Fun times. But generally, you’re going to be the loser when it comes- when all you’re doing is comparing yourself. I guarantee, if you were a fly on the wall in someone’s house that you’re comparing yourself to, probably would see that they don’t have a little perfect Facebook life. Your journey is yours. Your goals are yours. Your pursuit of happiness is yours and on your terms. It’s not just coming up with someone else’s life that you want to just put onto your life, just because they have whatever it is that you think is great, or just that they are … It must be nice, because … That’ll get you nowhere except a lot of conversations and inner voices talking about what you don’t have and just, again, creating self-doubt.

Betty Collins: [00:07:09] Give energy to no one but you. The best thing you could do when you’re comparing yourself is stop and maybe celebrate the successes of those around you. We have lost that ability today. Success kind of is this bad thing sometimes, or it’s like, well, it’s not fair. How are we going to balance that? I would tell you, envy is the first step to comparison, which always results, then, in that self-doubt.

Betty Collins: [00:07:38] You’ve got to become more assertive by simply saying no. We don’t do that well, do we, ladies? Say no to things that are going to add to your self-doubt, or take away confidence, or take from you moving forward. Let go. Say no. Have no regrets. Move on with it. I’ve had to do that with different things in my life. There’s sometimes just a huge relief when you do that, and it’s okay.

Betty Collins: [00:08:02] Here’s the fun one, and I’ll talk about this – replacing perfectionism with healthier and happier habits. They will probably help you get through things a lot better if you’re not a perfectionist. It will remove that anxiety and stress. Perfectionism, to me, I think of, “I got the A-plus!” Did you need the A-plus? Was it worth it? Did anybody care? Probably not. Maybe … Being perfect just makes you tired, and at that point, self-doubt kicks in, and believe me, those inner voices are having a blast. They’re just having a blast bringing you down about it..

Betty Collins: [00:08:41] Something that I can relate to, back when I took the CPA exam, and I see it today, is you have to get a certain score in the CPA exam to pass. The first time I took it, I passed tax. I never prepared a tax return in my life. I thought, “Well, if I can do that and pass that, I can get through this.” But I had to pass more than one part, so it didn’t count. I took it over again, took all four parts. Guess what? I got 72, 73, 74 … You had to have 75. [inaudible] a lot of self-doubt – am I ever going to get through this? Am I ever going to do this?

Betty Collins: [00:09:19] Somebody had really wise words to me and said, “You know this stuff, you just need to know how to take a test.” And I just went, “Oh …” I took an actual class on how to take the CPA test. I went in, passed three parts at one time, and then did last part just on my own. No one has ever asked me my score. No one’s ever said, “What did you score on your four parts of your test?” Does it matter that I had the A-plus, and had a 95 or a 99? It really didn’t. The important thing was that I learned; I persevered; I took the test..

Betty Collins: [00:09:59] Sometimes, that perfectionist gets in us, and the self-doubt. I could have just given up on the exam because it’s a brutal thing to go through. Here’s another thing – when you don’t achieve everything – all right, you might even fail – just handle it in a way that allows you to keep feeling good about the setback. Most importantly, you’ve got to breeze through these times. Failure and setbacks are just part of the journey. It’s where you learn. It assists you maybe sometimes with being humble. It helps you help others. It’s the best “schooling,” or education for the next time because it will be there. Everyone has setbacks, so tell your inner voice that because it’s true, and you move on.

Betty Collins: [00:10:50] Here’s one. You’re going to love it. Talk back to your own inner critic. Conversations … That’s right, I’m telling you to have a two-way conversation now in your head. Talking back is okay, because sometimes you got to shut it down. You’ll be amazed if you journal your thoughts. Some people go, “I’m not journaling. Get over it. I’m not doing it.” Go back and read them, and you’ll be amazed at where your mindsets were.

Betty Collins: [00:11:13] When I went through a divorce. I journaled a lot at that time because there was a lot of doubt, and there was a lot of negativity, and critical, and self-esteem issues, obviously, related to divorce. I journaled, especially because it was like when I knew I was in that frame of mind. I just did that. Eventually, I got through divorce and came out on the better end and did really, really well. One day, I was cleaning and found all those journals. I started reading some of that stuff, and I went, “Oh, my gosh!” Then, I burned them all because I thought, “Somebody finds these journals, it’s gonna be a really bad day!”

Betty Collins: [00:11:13] It was something that helped me stop the inner critic because I would write it down, I would get it out, and then I wouldn’t hash it over and hash it over. So, I would challenge you, even … You don’t want to journal, and you’re not going through divorce … It’s just day to day. If you were to start, today … Start counting the times you’re being critical, or doubting yourself, or saying something negative, you’ll be amazed. Track it every time, and you’ll go, “Okay, I got to change this habit.” It does create self-doubt when you’re that way.

Betty Collins: [00:12:16] The last thing I’m going to cover, and I could go on and on about things that cause self-doubt … I just felt like these were the ones that applied mostly to my life. You’ve got to lay off and overcome being the most critical – the thing that drives your self-esteem down. It’s about those habits … How we look. Well, maybe being a size two isn’t all that, because you don’t get to eat. I don’t know. We overthink. We overthink things way too much sometimes, and it just takes the joy out of the every day. You’ve got to stop beating yourself up and pushing yourself to places where you may not come back when you get in those frame of minds.

Betty Collins: [00:12:56] You just may need a good mentor to get you your perspective. I’ve done that off and on in my career because I get mired down. I just get mired down. I talk every day to a person- not every day, but most days, we talk on the way home from work. We always kind of just vent our things that happened that day, or laugh through it, or I get perspective. It’s good for me. That’s called informal mentoring, and you kind of have that.

Betty Collins: [00:13:21] But I would challenge you to really look at formal mentoring. A great organization for that is the WSBA in Westerville. They do a fantastic job of connecting the right person with you. You also just may need to get professional help some time. It’s okay. I’ve had a shrink off and on my entire life because there are just times I can’t get through that self-critical- that self-esteem pushing me, of I should be this, and I should be that. If you had a bad physical issue – an infection – you’d go to a doctor. So, if you’re mentally not having clarity and perspective, I’d tell you, a good counselor is a great way to go. Been there and done that.

Betty Collins: [00:13:57] You start by tackling the inner voice. I’ve tried to go through some things that kind of feed that inner voice; that constantly keeps those conversations … You’ve got to shut it down as soon as it creates self-doubt. Sometimes, you’ve got to listen to it because it’s maybe right. Many times, I’ve had this- I’ve had the A-ha moment. I’ve had this A-ha moment many times, I should say – the only competition is you, Betty Collins. If I’m going to really not be held back by self-doubt, and insignificance, or whatever it is, I’ve got to trust myself to handle it. I’m pretty capable, and if I look back on the things I have handled, and the things I have driven, and the things that I have gotten through, I can trust myself.

Betty Collins: [00:14:46] You need to look at it the same way. You’ve had times where you’ve just done it. You know what you’re doing. You’ve got to discover your factual strengths and your weaknesses. We are not good at everything. Period. You don’t know everything. Period. Just because you have a weakness doesn’t mean you cannot be competitive and do the things that you want to do in your life and in your career. Instead, I would tell you to focus on what you should do..

Betty Collins: [00:15:15] My world is an accounting world. It’s a world full of tremendous amounts of really good technicians because that’s what we do. We have to have those people. If you had me go and do auditing all day long and read the GAAP – General Accepted Accounting Principles – and you had me do proposals to change SARs, I would be horrible at it. You would fire me. If you wanted me to do things like be a business advisor, and coach you, and tell you what your tax return means, and give you strategy, I’m your person. Those are my strengths. Even though I’m surrounded by people that struggle with those things, I’m really surrounded by people who can really do technical things. I can’t get wrapped up in that. Discover what your strength is and seize on it. Everyone has weaknesses, but don’t try to improve something that you’re probably never going to improve.

Betty Collins: [00:16:21] Cultivate more compassion and understanding for yourself, the people around you. I’ll never forget this experience. I went to a client years ago. When I got to this client, he was the business director. I went in his office, and he was definitely this bean counter. You had to see his office. He had green ledger paper stacked, and print-outs, and calculators … You had to just see it. He was a typical accountant. He probably had a pocket protector on, full with pens.

Betty Collins: [00:16:50] What was interesting … I always thought he was hard to approach. At this job, everybody had a card, and it stood out right in front of their desk. It was probably an 8 x 10, 8 x 11, whatever the standard size is; it was in a frame. It said, “This is how you need to approach me,” and it gave you three things. It was interesting because, all the sudden, I realized he doesn’t want to do accounting right away. He wants me to ask how his dog is. He wants me to … He wants to hear about my family. He wanted a little personal before we got right into accounting.

Betty Collins: [00:17:30] It was interesting because on the phone, when I dealt with him, we were all accounting. I get to his office, and his office is full of pictures of his family and vacations. Then, I’m seeing how he wants to be approached. I learned with that to have a little bit more compassion and understanding of who I was dealing with. Then, I didn’t have somebody who I just thought was a critical accountant, wanting to change something that was $10. It would drive me crazy. Those are things you need to look at.

Betty Collins: [00:17:57] Find your most important dream and set your goals. Stay with effective strategies; those are things we hear. There’s so much self-help out there. But dreams and goals come in different sizes. So, when you find them, keeping it simple and being realistic is the best way to get to the untapped stuff in your life and potential that you have..

Betty Collins: [00:18:18] For me, I’ve been in accounting since 1988, and I didn’t really start getting into some of those untapped potential things, strengths that I do well until I came to Brady Ware. This podcast is a result of that. Running the women’s initiative is a result of that. Being out there … My complete dreams and goals have shifted and totally changed, and I enjoy it so much more. The self-doubt just isn’t there because I’m more engaged in those simple things that I’m seeing because I had all this potential I didn’t know was there.

Betty Collins: [00:18:53] Stay on course. When you get there, and you finally do it – you’re at the destination – don’t sabotage it. Here’s a good example. I lost 19 pounds and 13 inches this year. As of today, right this moment, I’m still down sixteen pounds, so I’m within three, right? I did it all in about for months. When you’re in your 50s, you always say, “I can’t lose weight because … Women. We get all the bad stuff, metabolisms and everything.” But I did do it during this time, and I’ve kept it off, and I’ve learned those habits. What I generally talk about when someone asks me about weight, or I talk about weight, I always talk, though, “I’m just not done. I’ve still got 10 pounds to go. I still don’t like the way I look. If I could just be …” Stop. Instead, stay on course, work towards the goal, and when you get there, celebrate it. Don’t sabotage it or talk negatively about it.

Betty Collins: [00:19:49] Another thing we don’t do a lot of, or we do way too much of it, is “I deserve having and getting more good things and great things in my life.” That’s okay. Sometimes, people talk about what they deserve, and we kind of laugh. We kind of all get tired of that entitlement today. But if you work hard, and you play hard, your success should be celebrated. You deserved it, and you earned it. It’s okay. Think on that versus, “Well, but everyone else doesn’t have this,” or, “It’s probably not fair,” or “I got lucky.” Turn your thinking towards that. Again, the only competition that I’m competing with is Betty Collins.

Betty Collins: [00:20:26] Simply stop feeling lousy or negative about yourself. Nobody likes a Debbie Downer. Figure out happiness. My mom always said, and she had this on her bulletin board in the kitchen for years, “False cheer is so much better than real crabbiness.” That’s just the better way to live, sometimes. You can’t just ignore things in your life, but sometimes, you just have to do that.

Betty Collins: [00:20:51] Get some clarity, get some perspective, and let go of how you think you should be, and embrace really who you are, deep down. Do not let self-doubt take away from you, and don’t let it take from your desires and dreams. Remember, your only competition in life, and in your journey, is you. o obtain those desires, and those dreams – just you.

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Inspiring Women, Episode 21: Finding and Owning Your Voice

May 12, 2020 by John Ray

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Finding and owning your voice is a necessary skill for women to learn, so that they can express their unique identity, add value in any situation, and contribute to the greater good. Host Betty Collins explains in this edition of “Inspiring Women,” presented by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

Finding and owning your voice.

Strengthening your inner confidence.

It’s your identity expressing itself. It’s your personality, and it’s your individual message to the world.

I believe that there is power in that feminine voice, and it’s missing in too many conversations. From the business environment – your office, the marketplace, the boardroom, to politics, and in our homes. If we are there, it’s so crucial that the voice is heard.

In this episode, I hope to help you to move forward in owning your voice, and claiming that power.

Of course, if it’s only for the greater good.

You first have to recognize you probably have something valuable to say. You have to be strategic, though, about what you say and when you say it. Don’t speak for the sake of speaking. Be sure that you speak thoughtfully, in an engaging manner, when you want to be heard.

Words really matter.

People’s perception and how they’ve heard you is your of choice of words. Speaking isn’t just saying what you want. Speaking isn’t just having your voice. Words matter to make things happen.

You must be willing to speak up when something goes against what has a deep value for you. Silence in those moments really talks about your character. And be prepared for possible backlash when you do. Criticism comes with being a leader, regardless of your gender. The labels, and the name-calling have very little to do with you, personally. It’s really about how uncomfortable you’re making some people. Don’t take it personally, and just move on.

When you’re finding your voice, it’s one step at a time. Slow and steady.

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins, Brady Ware & Company

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

“Inspiring Women” is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA, and presented by Brady Ware and Company. Brady Ware is committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. Other episodes of “Inspiring Women” can be found here.

Show Transcript

Today, we’re going to talk about finding and owning your voice; strengthening your inner confidence. It’s really not about how your voice sounds, or it’s not really about finding the perfect way to say something. Really, do you have something to say, but you maybe choose to be silent? Maybe you’re at the table. You finally got there, and you want to have some kind of impact, and you want to speak up, but you don’t. Maybe you’re confident, but you’re just not courageous with what you’re wanting to say, when the time comes. Maybe you’re using your voice, and you’re talking, but you’re not being heard. I hate to say it like this, but could it be that you’re not saying anything? That’s kind of an ouch, but …

So, your voice – it’s your authentic self speaking. It’s your identity expressing itself. It’s your personality, and it’s your individual message to the world. That world is what for you, professionally and personally? Your voice is what you have to say, and it takes confidence, and you have to be courageous. It takes really some strategy. It takes you stepping back, looking into the mirror, and being honest; strengthening that inner confidence, and shutting down the voices in your head. Then, it’s just action time.

Your voice is your power. It’s yours. It’s not anyone else’s. You should not give it up for any reason. There are people all around you who have used their voice for good and for bad. Think about it – if they had not used their voice, if they had not stood, if they had not said what needed to be said, what differences would be going on, right now, around you, in your company, in your career, in your family, et cetera? Who are you thinking of right now that spoke up? They spoke up and they communicated a very needed message. You have to think of those who did it negatively, though, and not for the greater good; always speaking, always saying something … Today is a tough environment. We have this P.C. world, and the tones, and the agendas, and all these opinions. At time, it’s shutting down our voices due to differences, and that’s not good either.

As this is a podcast for inspiring women, I believe that there is power in that feminine voice, and it’s missing in too many conversations, from the business environment – your office, the marketplace, maybe the boardroom; in politics; our homes. In a lot of those arenas, we’re not even there, so how could our voice be heard? So, if we are there, it’s so crucial that the voice is heard. Today, I hope to help you to move forward in owning your voice, and claiming that power; of course, if it’s only for the greater good. So, let’s get started.

You first have to recognize you probably have something valuable to say. Do you believe that you have something to say? Is there something on that tip of your tongue or maybe at the very core of who you are, something you have had … There’s a tremendous passion and yet, no one knows it. You have to start first with knowing that you are capable of adding value to a conversation.

I struggle with this, at times, because I think who would really care about this, or I think, even in my podcast, who’s really going to listen to what I have to say? But a lot of times, these are the things that I think matter. So, you matter, and your words matter. You have to avoid measuring the worth of your words against other people at the table, sometimes, or in the room. If you’re playing the comparison game, you’re just devaluing yourself. Don’t let the original of who you are conform to just being another copy. Believe in yourself and what you have to say. That’s your starting point. You’ve got to recognize that you have something valuable to say.

You have to be strategic also, though, about what you say and when you say it. I hate to break it to you … Here’s the bad news – shooting from the hip and spouting off is probably not overly strategic. Sometimes, it’s very effective. Do not get me wrong. Sometimes, you’re just in that moment, and it’s the choice that needs to be made. You certainly found your voice, and you used it, but was it effective, or did it just set you back because shooting from the hip can also do that? Your credibility is gone, and you can’t go back, because that’s what people are going to remember.

Do not speak for the sake of speaking. Be sure that you speak thoughtfully, in an engaging manner, if you want to be heard. Speak as you would like to be spoken to. That’s really huge. Sometimes we tend to be very brash people, or we tend to be very strong personalities, so we think everyone gets that. Sometimes, we want to be spoken to with respect, so if you don’t do that to the other person, how are you going to be heard? Your voice is just noise. Think on that because that can be pretty hard.

Think of it this way – when you have listened to somebody, it’s probably because they spoke; they were prepared; they were … The influence of what they were trying to get across was probably ignited within you. Again, it took strategy, and they thought it through.

We really need to figure out how to be inclusive and not decisive in our message. What does that mean? It means, really, sometimes, words really matter. As much as I don’t like the P.C. world in which we live right now, words matter, and how they are said matters. People’s perception and how they’ve heard you is probably because of choice of words. Speaking isn’t just saying what you want. Speaking isn’t just having your voice. Words matter in the things that have to happen. Then, just getting angry is counterproductive, so try to keep out of that kind of conversation, when it becomes heated, and you disagree.

If we use the right inclusiveness and decisiveness in our message, we can say the tough things; we can say the things that we want to say and, in some environments, it would be heard. The hardest thing in today’s environment is we can’t even have the discussion, no matter how we even choose our words. It’s not the greatest place to be, but that matters.

I think we have to be confident and not defensive. There is a time to be defensive. That is pretty much defending your abilities and your potentials, and sometimes, that happens. It’s more reactive. Then, there’s a time to be offensive. “Hey, these are my abilities, values. I’m going to score. I’m going to show you that potential!” That’s being proactive.

No matter which side you’ve chosen because of the circumstance, you got to do it with confidence. Then, you have nothing to prove. If somebody comes to you, and they’re very defensive, and they’re very timid, or meek, or apologizing, you’re not going to listen. So, when you do that, why would somebody? A defensive posture instinctively says you have something to prove, and maybe you do; but the offensive posture says, “This is my ability.” Either way, when you’re confident when you execute, you will have nothing to prove. You only have to show everyone else what already is known to be true. Being confident, and being on the offense, and not being defensive is usually the better strategy.

Stay in integrity with yourself. You must be willing to speak up, when something goes against something that is a very deep value for you. Silence in those moments really talks about your character. You have to stay in integrity. You have to stay in that mode. Silence or backing down in those moments probably is not an option. It’s far more important for you to look at yourself in the mirror and sleep well at night. Your voice can change that environment, maybe; standing up for what is right, or staying with a value, a core value. But don’t waste your energy where you won’t find yourself doing that. Find another place. You’re too valuable for that.

I think of two men who had two different beliefs. One was a very, very progressive, left side – those are what he valued, and those are what he believed – and he did not compromise those. He did it with … He led with those beliefs and those values. You never saw him compromise. Then, I will speak of a very, very conservative man who, these were his beliefs, and he met with anyone who didn’t believe that, and tried to convince them, and tried to help them understand. Neither gentleman ever compromised, or said, “I’m going to just go ahead and go what’s against everything I believe.” Those two people are President Ronald Reagan, and President Barack Obama. Two very different belief systems, two very different ways, but they both had the same way, in my opinion, of execution. They stayed with what they believed, and their integrity relied upon it. Doesn’t mean you had to believe either side, but they were both very effective in communicating their messages, and their voices were heard to two different audiences, but they were heard.

Speaking of those two individuals, be prepared for possible backlash when you do these things. While I want to believe that things are improving for women, and they are, there are still some environments where women leaders are penalized for speaking up. We’re labeled … When we’re aggressive, there are certain names that are said. I’m not going to say them … Or you’re told, “You’re too much.” Kind of like my kids do. “Mom, you’re great, but you’re a lot.”.

But remember these two things. Criticism comes with being a leader, regardless of your gender, by the way. The words are just nastier, sometimes, when they’re attached to a woman who is leading. So, you have to be prepared for that backlash. When you want your voice heard, and you’re trying to find that in today’s environment, it’s not easy. Two, the labels, and the name-calling have very little to do with you, personally. It’s really about how much you’re probably making some people feel uncomfortable. Don’t take it personally, and just move on. Again, I always go back to – if I want my voice heard, how am I going to use it?

You’ve got to have some safe places. I have my sounding boards, where I just let down. It’s a place. It’s a person. It’s an environment. I have to trust that those people, in those places, at the very core. At times, your voice is going to be criticized beyond, and you’re going to need to do that. It may be harsh, and it may take a toll on you emotionally, but no woman should be an island. We shouldn’t feel like we’re all in this alone because we’ve chosen to maybe take a stand somewhere.

When you’re finding your voice, it’s one step at a time. Slow and steady. It can be scary, and it can be risky, and you’ve got to put yourself out there. You’ve got to allow your voice to be heard and see what happens. You may not be able to do it all at once, or in a really big way, but that’s okay. Find a small way that you can begin today. Maybe start by saying no more, or intentionally apologizing less.

I would challenge you … My son is a minister in a church, and there’s just certain things that he believes in that he’s really into. Then, there are things that he just really isn’t about. He said, “Why are these things happening?” I’m not going to go into all that … I told him very clearly, pretty quickly, and he kind of just … We talked about it for a while, and I said it’s because people have believed what they needed to say, and they kept saying it. And after a while, people either got on board; they believed it. They got engaged, and there was conversation.

At Brady Ware, I’m fortunate enough to be a shareholder, lead a women’s initiative, and be on the board of directors. The greatest thing about that is – in all three of those arenas, as an owner of a business and in the leadership of the business – I get to have a voice, and I get to speak for many around me. So, you got to take your voice, and your message, and finding it very seriously, in no matter what it is you do. So, I hope this was challenging for you today and that you’ll think about it.

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Inspiring Women, Episode 20: Becoming The Authentic Leader You Envision

April 15, 2020 by John Ray

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Inspiring Women, Episode 20: Becoming The Authentic Leader You Envision

There’s almost a crying desire for leadership in our society which is genuine. In this episode of “Inspiring Women,” host Betty Collins discusses the characteristics of authentic leadership. “Inspiring Women” is presented by Brady Ware & Company.

Betty’s Show Notes

It’s everywhere; books, coaches, seminars on the why, the what, the who, and the how.

It’s really, in my mind, almost overkill. But the sad truth is, with all of that help, we are desperately looking for leadership that is authentic.

In our society, in politics, to corporate America, to education systems, within our homes, within professional organizations, authentic leadership is really tough to find.

Authentic leadership works on the principle that leaders can prove their legitimacy, their credibility, by nurturing sincere relationships with whomever they’re leading. Notice I did not say “I am the leader, follow me!” It isn’t about the title. It really is nurturing sincere relationships.

How do you do that?

An authentic leader encourages their followers to be more open. They appreciate their support in the success of the organization. When you want to be an authentic leader, it’s pretty tough. It’s a pretty high standard, and it takes a while to do.

This is something you have to be pretty intentional about. If you are a true authentic leader, you’ll have certain characteristics. You probably can’t have all 10 that I’ve come up with, but you’ve got to have some of these, or you’ve got to be working on them.

  • Self-awareness
  • Integrity
  • Vision
  • Focus On Long-term Results
  • Listening Skills
  • Speaking Carefully
  • Transparency
  • Consistency
  • Drawing On Experience
  • Sharing Success With Your Team

Betty Collins, CPA, Brady Ware & Company and Host of the “Inspiring Women” Podcast

Betty Collins, Brady Ware & Company

Betty Collins is the Office Lead for Brady Ware’s Columbus office and a Shareholder in the firm. Betty joined Brady Ware & Company in 2012 through a merger with Nipps, Brown, Collins & Associates. She started her career in public accounting in 1988. Betty is co-leader of the Long Term Care service team, which helps providers of services to Individuals with Intellectual and Developmental Disabilities and nursing centers establish effective operational models that also maximize available funding. She consults with other small businesses, helping them prosper with advice on general operations management, cash flow optimization, and tax minimization strategies.

In addition, Betty serves on the Board of Directors for Brady Ware and Company. She leads Brady Ware’s Women’s Initiative, a program designed to empower female employees, allowing them to tap into unique resources and unleash their full potential.  Betty helps her colleagues create a work/life balance while inspiring them to set and reach personal and professional goals. The Women’s Initiative promotes women-to-women business relationships for clients and holds an annual conference that supports women business owners, women leaders, and other women who want to succeed. Betty actively participates in women-oriented conferences through speaking engagements and board activity.

Betty is a member of the National Association of Women Business Owners (NAWBO) and she is the President-elect for the Columbus Chapter. Brady Ware also partners with the Women’s Small Business Accelerator (WSBA), an organization designed to help female business owners develop and implement a strong business strategy through education and mentorship, and Betty participates in their mentor match program. She is passionate about WSBA because she believes in their acceleration program and matching women with the right advisors to help them achieve their business ownership goals. Betty supports the WSBA and NAWBO because these organizations deliver resources that help other women-owned and managed businesses thrive.

Betty is a graduate of Mount Vernon Nazarene College, a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants, and a member of the Ohio Society of Certified Public Accountants. Betty is also the Board Chairwoman for the Gahanna Area Chamber of Commerce, and she serves on the Board of the Community Improvement Corporation of Gahanna as Treasurer.

“Inspiring Women” Podcast Series

“Inspiring Women” is THE podcast that advances women toward economic, social and political achievement. The show is hosted by Betty Collins, CPA, and presented by Brady Ware and Company. Brady Ware is committed to empowering women to go their distance in the workplace and at home. Other episodes of “Inspiring Women” can be found here.

Show Transcript

[00:00:00] Becoming the authentic leader that you envision and making sure you can build that team … Authentic leaders, being an authentic leader, the 10 steps of all of it … It’s everywhere; books, coaches, seminars on the why, the what, the who, and the how. It’s really, in my mind, almost overkill, but the sad truth is, with all of that help, and with all of those things, and with all that can be thrown at you, we are desperately looking for leadership that is authentic, in all aspects. From our society, from politics, to corporate America, to education systems, within our homes, within professional organizations, authentic leadership is really tough to find.

[00:00:46]  Part of it is because it’s hard to be an authentic leader. Authentic leadership works on the principle that leaders can prove their legitimacy, their credibility, by nurturing sincere relationships with whoever they’re leading. Notice I did not say I am the leader, follow me! It isn’t about the title you finally got. “Get over it. Do as I say.” It really is nurturing sincere relationships. How do you do that?

[00:01:19]   The word authentic also is way overused everywhere, but an authentic leader encourages their followers to be more open. They appreciate their support in the success of the organization, so they really want to hear from them. It doesn’t just promote them as the leader, or it doesn’t just promote individuals. It’s a team performance.

[00:01:41]   When you want to be an authentic leader, it’s pretty tough. It’s a pretty high standard, and it takes a while to do. You’re not going to do that because you got your MBA, or something, or you’re just getting out of college, or even if you have years of experience. This is something you have to be pretty intentional about. If you are a true authentic leader, you’ll probably have certain characteristics. You probably can’t have all 10 that I’ve come up with, but you’ve got to have some of these, or you’ve got to be working on them.

[00:02:09]   Who is the person in your life, at your company, in your career, in your past, maybe in your local government? In the professional organization, when you’re thinking authentic leader, who comes to your mind immediately? And then, I have to ask this – do you think you are an authentic leader? But, probably, the real question is do others see you as that?

[00:02:34]   I want to talk about how do we get there, and what does it mean to be an authentic leader? These are just some basic ideas that I came across, and read about, and looked … I think I narrowed it down to 10 because I don’t know how you could do all 10 of these but let me go through them.

[00:02:50]   Self-awareness. An authentic leader reflects upon their actions and some of their decisions, and they examine; all along their career, they’re examining how they’re doing those things, so they can try to not be biased, and, again, being open. You lead with your heart. You focus on the long-term results, integrity. That could be an entire podcast. You’ve got to lead with vision. You’ve got to listen, and carefully speak. Of course, transparency and consistency. Those are some things that I think have to be there for you to get the title – authentic leader.

[00:03:30]   Let’s start with the first one – self-awareness. You’re reflecting on your actions, your decisions. You’re examining your own strengths and weaknesses. Then, you put a lot of effort to overcome the fears around … The people who fear maybe those things that are not going well, and you use your strengths to maximize. Self-awareness is not obsession with every aspect of your life so it’s all perfect, and it is not constantly analyzing yourself and then asking everyone’s opinion about it. Again, it’s really reflection; examination. I don’t know that you have to do it every day, but authentic leaders don’t really hide behind their flaws. They talk about them, and they acknowledge them. A lot of times they get people around them that can maybe fill in where they are not that way.

[00:04:24]   Being an authentic leader is hard work and it takes years of experience, and you’re going to fail. But everyone behaves inauthentically – is that a word? – at times, and they say things and do things they regret. So, the key is to have self-awareness; to recognize those times where you listen, and you listen to your colleagues, and wherever you’re leading as this authentic leader, who can point them out to you, and you can go, “Okay, I get that.”

[00:04:54]   If you’re going to be an authentic leader, you’ve got to lead with your heart. Probably not afraid to dig deep. Those people that can go, “Let’s just get to the core of it.” They lead their team with courage. There’s a lot of empathy, because if you’re going to really lead from the heart and listen, it takes empathy. I’m not always an empathetic person. It’s a skill that I really have to work on. Being all heart also doesn’t mean you just lead with your emotions, or you feel good, therefore, that must be coming from the heart; or you feel bad, and that’s really coming from the core.

[00:05:31]   Two situations. One, I had someone … We always had kind of a flex time in one of the companies that I worked with. One of those things was as long as you got your eight-hour day in, you were good. This was well before everybody now has flex time or works out of your house. We had somebody who really loved flex time, because they wanted to eat breakfast with their kids every morning and take them to school. The problem with his authentic leadership, though, was when it came 5:00, and he still had two more hours, he didn’t hesitate to go into someone’s office at 3:00, 4:00, or 5:00, and sit there and talk and even follow them to their car. He really wasn’t authentic. Liked it for himself. Didn’t let others do it.

[00:06:18]   I will say, of course, I’m either very egotistical, or very insecure, but I will say this with as much humbleness as I can … The success of the women’s initiative at Brady Ware, my CEO directly said this to me from the beginning; he said, “You are a leader for this because you wear the emotions on your sleeve. Your passion is there for everybody to see, and it comes out at the very core, and that’s why the Brady Ware women’s initiative is successful.” For me to have a legacy and to pass this on to someone, I’ve got to find someone with that same thing. You lead with the heart. We’ve had some success with that. It was a very nice compliment, for sure, and I’ve tried to use that in other areas, if I have that much passion. When I don’t have that kind of, where I can lead from the heart, I kind of question should I be doing this?

[00:07:14]   You’ve got to focus on long-term results, when you are an authentic leader. You don’t waste a whole lot of time worrying about maybe temporary setbacks or things that just didn’t go well. You cannot always have a stellar month. You cannot always have a stellar year. You’ve got to look long term. You know this is the right thing. It takes patience, and it takes hard work, but you can yield some rich results in the long run. So, looking forward by learning from the past generally results in good. But, again, everything can’t be stellar and huge all the time.

[00:07:50]   I hope you get the correlation; I’m going to try to describe this … I ran in a 5K only one time. It was time to get my health in order, and the book I was reading at the time said, “Find the exercise you like, and you exercise.” I said, okay, I’m going to run. I’m going to be a runner. I prepped for the 5K, somewhat, and I loved more buying the shoes, and the matching gear, and being part of the big day more. It was a community thing. At the end of the day, the race was kind of tough, but I kept my focus because I did know – when I was tired – it’s like everyone else is doing this. We can get there. There is a finish line. I met the goal. I was part of the community. It’s all really good. I finished about mid-pack, which I didn’t think was bad because I was in my 50s. I wasn’t in first place. It wasn’t this big result, but it was all part of my health plan.

[00:08:51]   So, instead of going, “Well, that didn’t work,” I just moved on to something that maybe did work. It led me to the next part of my physical health, which was really just getting a trainer. I lost, over four, or five months’ time, about 19 pounds, 13 inches. Now, those habits are really in place. I wasn’t about what I was going to look like, when I worked out at the gym with her, or whatever it was. So, I took that and learned from my past; didn’t get buried down in that one more thing didn’t work about weight. Instead, I said I’m going to look at this long term.

[00:09:25]   I prep now; I focus; I’m more patient. If I would have just said, “No more 5ks. I’m done,” I wouldn’t have the amazing results I have right now. I didn’t waste time focusing on what I didn’t accomplish in that race. Instead, I found another way to move forward and applied that somewhat to how I lead in business. It’s okay that something didn’t work. If it doesn’t, don’t keep doing it over. I wasn’t going to keep running races that I wasn’t prepared for, but I am going to, day by day, deal with my health. So, focus on the long-term results.

[00:09:58]   Integrity … Just not there today. I had a great book back in the day about President Ronald Reagan, “When Character was King,” and it was all about integrity. I would still vote for him today. That would be who I’d write in on the ballot. He was authentic to me. He wasn’t perfect, but integrity mattered to him. Of course, I’m a pretty conservative person, so, of course, I’m going to be drawn to him, but integrity was key. He just didn’t say things to say them. Generally, hat he said he meant. I kind of look that way with Barack Obama, as well. President Obama was a progressive left; he said that. He also said, “This is what I believe, and this is what I’m going to do.” There wasn’t any- What’s the word I want? There wasn’t any delusion about it. They both had different ways about their character, and integrity, because they were doing what they believed, and what they said, they meant. They were respected, yet two very, very different men.

[00:10:59]   Chances are, two people can say the same thing. The one who’s listened to probably has integrity and probably has some credibility, especially with the world we have today. If you really step back and go, “I want to understand more about integrity. I’ve got to figure that out, and character, that matters in my character …” you will be a leader, far past a lot of people.

[00:11:26]   You have to lead with vision. Authentic leaders lead with purpose and vision. Chances are, they’re going to add value to the people that they interact with, the team, and they’re going to help people also be part of the vision. They are not just the vision. That’s why I say- that’s only five, and I’m exhausted thinking about all the things I have to do to be the leader. We’ve got five more … We’ll finish up.

[00:11:50]   Listening skills and carefully speaking. What a mess we are in today with the ability to not listen and the ability to say whatever we think, and we call that freedom. Well, I look at it as a good leader … As we are making decisions right now about a next president, a good authentic leader is a good listener. Even when they don’t like your views, or you don’t like theirs, there’s listening involved.

[00:12:22]   Authentic leaders also monitor their words. They’re very careful to how they say things to the audience. Not because of political correctness, which has gone beyond, they do it because maybe they’re sensitive to the person who’s going to hear those; the impact, the actions. They’re not just messaging the right talking points. People can read right through that. Too much of today, and not just in politics, but our culture, in general, is we don’t listen, and we speak way too quickly. You want to be a better leader? People will gravitate to you, if you have listening skills and carefully speak. It’s definitely part of being that authentic leader.

[00:13:09]   Transparency … Authentic leaders obviously believe in open communication and combine their directness with empathy. I hope you heard that. They combine their directness with empathy. Transparency doesn’t mean, “Well, I told you, and I spilled my guts, and now everyone knows everything.” That might be transparency. It also might be maybe a little stupidity. “What you see is what you get” – that can be dangerous. “Well, this is just who I am!” Those things are not transparency.

[00:13:37]   We had somebody who, years ago, they were my client and always talked about his faith; always talked about transparency, and open, and honesty. Yet everyone knew he was having an affair with the administrative assistant. Everyone knew it. He didn’t know that everyone knew it … So, his transparency, no matter what, wasn’t there. It just wasn’t there. We really need it today. Transparency is about open communication; being direct with some empathy; and not just saying what you think needs to be said. People see who you are, most of the time, or they at least have some idea.

[00:14:18]   Consistency … Consistent people in your life. I want you to be thinking, who is that, and why do you go to that person on your team? It’s because they’re consistent, and you can count on them. Well, they need the same thing from you as a leader. They’re not probably going to be allured into things and allow things that just don’t … They’re not with the plan. They’re not with the steps. They’re not with what needs to happen. Consistency is a huge important thing. Sometimes, you need to divert; sometimes, you need to take another fork in the road. I get that, but, generally, in business and when you’re leading, and you want a team to follow, you can’t live in too much ‘let’s just shoot from the hip and go over here.’ You’ve got to stay with some things, and consistency is part of that.

[00:14:57]   Probably the hardest things for leaders, especially authentic, but this is one you could really just say, “I’m going to make an effort on this,” is sharing your success with your team. Everybody wants to take the credit for it. Really, when you build the team around you, and give credit, and you do it as a team, you have so much- so much more different results.

[00:15:17]   Drawing on experience … I’m 56, and I have a lot to say, and I probably have a lot of good stories to tell you. It doesn’t mean, because I tell them, and I learned the hard way, it makes me authentic. But stellar leadership will absolutely share their experiences and really have compassion that you don’t experience that. Or they might have compassion for you to experience it because you need to.

[00:15:39]   Rhett Ricart is a common name in Columbus. Of course, they have Ricart Ford, which is a- many years, it’s been number one in the country. It’s a huge, huge organization. He’s a great speaker, and he does a great presentation on his 13 mistakes. He takes that experience, and he throws it out there and says, “This is what I did.”

[00:16:02]   One of the ones I loved, he talked about ‘Don’t teach your employees to steal.’ I’m like, wow … He said, because, you know, if you were a Ricart, you could fill up your gas tank and get your tires changed, and no one ever paid for any of that. You just ate lunch on the … All the different things you do as an owner. Then, when your employees start doing that, you’re kind of mad, because you’re like, “What are you doing?” “Well, you guys do it. You’re employees here. Okay, you’re owners, but …” He just talked very, very openly about, “These are the things I didn’t do well, and I don’t want you to do that.” He’s very authentic about it. He doesn’t talk about he was perfect the whole way and that’s why they’re number one.

[00:16:40]   Authentic leadership – I’ll end with this. Your team deserves it. It’s next to impossible to do all 10 of these, but I would certainly look at the ones where you’re struggling in and make an effort to put some change there; to get your mindset differently and to really get some open, honest communication about it because your team deserves it. They need you to strive towards becoming the authentic leader. Then, one day, you’ll probably create authentic leaders around you. I’m Betty Collins. Thank you for listening today.

 

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