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Use AI, Stay Human with Alastair McDermott

September 24, 2025 by John Ray

Alastair McDermott, HumanSpark.ai, on The Price and Value Journey podcast with host John Ray
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Use AI, Stay Human with Alastair McDermott (The Price and Value Journey, Episode 148)

AI is changing how expert-service professionals work, but it does not change what clients ultimately value. In this episode of The Price and Value Journey, host John Ray welcomes consultant, strategist, and author Alastair McDermott to discuss his book Use A.I. Stay Human: The Survival Guide for Experts Who Want to Stay Relevant, Authentic, and Indispensable in the Age of AI.

Alastair explains why AI should be considered a force multiplier rather than a threat, and why doubling down on human judgment, relationships, and trust is the key to staying indispensable. He shares practical ways experts can use AI for productivity, smarter decision-making, and accelerated learning while avoiding the trap of overestimating its capabilities.

John and Alastair also dig into the implications for pricing and value: how AI compresses tasks but not the client’s perception of value, why hourly billing is especially vulnerable, and how service providers can reframe their offers to emphasize the outcomes and confidence clients are truly buying.

If you have wondered how to balance productivity with authenticity in the age of AI and how to protect your pricing integrity, this conversation will give you both perspective and actionable ideas.

The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of the Business RadioX® podcast network.

Key Takeaways You Can Use from This Episode

  • Why “staying human” is not just a slogan but a competitive necessity in the AI era.
  • How to use AI to expand capabilities and speed learning without diluting expertise.
  • A practical way to codify your unique knowledge so AI reflects your voice and frameworks.
  • The role of judgment in separating useful AI outputs from flawed or misleading ones.
  • How client trust and perceived value anchor your pricing integrity when technology changes fast.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Welcome to The Price and Value Journey
01:19 Alastair McDermott’s Background
02:47 Transition to AI and Rebranding
04:57 Impact of AI on Professional Services
07:31 Leveraging AI for Value-Based Pricing
08:40 AI’s Role in Enhancing Human Skills
11:56 AI’s Limitations and Ethical Considerations
13:32 Practical Applications and Tools
24:51 Privacy and Security in AI Usage
27:58 Human-Centric Approach to AI
31:08 The Value of Wellbeing and Less Stress at Work
32:13 Leveraging AI in Writing and Editing
33:31 Four Core Opportunities for Experts
36:44 AI as a Strategic Advisor
38:51 The Importance of Context in AI
40:40 Pricing in the World of AI
43:53 Adoption of AI Among Authority-Based Businesses
45:55 Using AI for Content Creation and Feedback
50:49 Building AI Tools for Business Efficiency
53:51 Final Thoughts and Resources

Alastair McDermott, HumanSpark.ai

Alastair McDermott, HumanSpark
Alastair McDermott, HumanSpark.ai

Alastair McDermott is the author of the recently released book Use A.I. Stay Human.: The Survival Guide for Experts Who Want to Stay Relevant, Authentic, and Indispensable in the Age of AI. He is known for helping business leaders and subject-matter experts implement effective, human-centered AI strategies that increase efficiency while preserving the value of people.

As founder of HumanSpark.ai, McDermott draws on more than 18 years of experience in technology and consulting, guiding organizations to use artificial intelligence responsibly and successfully. He leads AI transformations that streamline operations, improve productivity, and deliver measurable ROI without compromising workforce stability or creativity.

Through his work as a consultant, author, and host of several podcasts such as The Recognized Authority, McDermott provides actionable guidance for independent consultants and firms in building real authority, growing their audience, and attracting high-value clients. He is committed to demystifying AI and ensuring its adoption augments human potential rather than replacing it.

Website | LinkedIn

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include business coaching and advisory work, as well as advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, coaches, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is a podcast show host and the owner of North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®. John and his team work with B2B professionals to create and conduct their podcast using The Generosity Mindset® Method: building and deepening relationships in a non-salesy way that translates into revenue for their business.

John is also the host of North Fulton Business Radio. With over 900 shows and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in its region like no one else.

John’s book, The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices

John Ray at Barnes & Noble with his book, The Generosity MindsetJohn Ray is the author of the five-star rated book The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices, praised by readers for its practical insights on raising confidence, value, and prices.

If you are a professional services provider, your goal is to do transformative work for clients you love working with and get paid commensurate with the value you deliver to them. While negative mindsets can inhibit your growth, adopting a different mindset, The Generosity Mindset®, can replace those self-limiting beliefs. The Generosity Mindset enables you to diagnose and communicate the value you deliver to clients and, in turn, more effectively price to receive a portion of that value.

Whether you’re a consultant, coach, marketing or branding professional, business advisor, attorney, CPA, or work in virtually any other professional services discipline, your content and technical expertise are not proprietary. What’s unique, though, is your experience and how you synthesize and deliver your knowledge. What’s special is your demeanor or the way you deal with your best-fit clients. What’s invaluable is how you deliver outstanding value by guiding people through massive changes in their personal lives and in their businesses that bring them to a place they never thought possible.

Your combination of these elements is unique in your industry. There lies your value, but it’s not the value you see. It’s the value your best-fit customers see in you.

If pricing your value feels uncomfortable or unfamiliar to you, this book will teach you why putting a price on the value your clients perceive and identify serves both them and you, and you’ll learn the factors involved in getting your price right.

The book is available at all major physical and online book retailers worldwide. Follow this link for further details.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Tagged With: AI, AI and pricing, AI and value, Alastair McDermott, attorneys, authenticity in business, client perceived value, coaches, consultants, cpa's, expert services, fractional executives, Human Spark, John Ray, pricing integrity, professional services, professional services providers, staying relevant with AI, The Generosity Mindset, The Price and Value Journey, The Recognized Authority, Use AI Stay Human

AI, Value, and Pricing with Mark Stiving, Impact Pricing

September 17, 2025 by John Ray

AI, Value, and Pricing with Mark Stiving, Impact Pricing, on The Price and Value Journey podcast with host John Ray
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AI, Value, and Pricing with Mark Stiving, Impact Pricing (The Price and Value Journey, Episode 147)

There’s a lot of noise on AI, but what are the practical implications it holds for those of us offering expertise? In this episode of The Price and Value Journey, Dr. Mark Stiving, founder of Impact Pricing, joins host John Ray to explore how AI is reshaping the way professional service providers think about value, pricing, and the work we deliver.

Mark brings decades of pricing expertise, authoring books such as Impact Pricing, Win Keep Grow, and Instant Profits: How to Raise Prices Without Losing Customers, and hosting the long-running Impact Pricing Podcast. We dive into the real implications of AI for expert-service pros:

  • Why AI isn’t as threatening—or as magical—as it first appears.
  • How it can streamline workflows and spark faster thinking, but why judgment and frameworks still matter most.
  • The danger of lowering prices just because AI helps you work faster.
  • How to use AI as a tool for diagnosing client problems without abdicating your role in uncovering value.

If you’ve been wrestling with questions about how AI intersects with your practice, pricing, and client conversations, this conversation will give you insight and practical direction.

The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of the Business RadioX® podcast network.

Key Takeaways You Can Use from This Episode

  • Don’t confuse AI’s polished output with true thinking. Use it to brainstorm and speed up ideas, not to make decisions for you.
  • Look for repetitive or “rote” tasks in your workflow that AI can automate so you can focus on client-facing, high-value work.
  • Never lower your prices just because AI makes you more efficient. Faster delivery does not diminish client-perceived value.
  • AI can help you generate lists of client problems or examples, but you must apply your expertise and frameworks to evaluate what matters.
  • Strong frameworks and mental models are what allow professionals to filter AI’s output into usable insights.
  • The core pricing principle remains unchanged: buyers trade money for value, and it’s your job to uncover what “value” means to each client.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

0:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
01:14 Discussing AI and Its Impact on Professional Services
03:25 AI’s Role in Enhancing Productivity
06:56 The Importance of Frameworks in AI Utilization
13:18 Understanding Value in Business
15:13 Using AI to Diagnose Client-Perceived Value
21:19 Personal and Professional Implications of AI
25:18 The Power of AI Conversations
26:24 Investing Time in AI for Small Firms
27:17 AI’s Impact on Productivity and Ideation
29:04 AI and Pricing Models
32:09 AI’s Role in Professional Services
38:28 Adoption and Learning Curve of AI
47:38 Future of AI in Professional Services
50:08 Final Thoughts and Advice

Mark Stiving, PhD, Impact Pricing

Mark Stiving, PhD, Impact Pricing
Mark Stiving, PhD, Impact Pricing

Mark Stiving, PhD, is a recognized authority on pricing and buyer behavior. With a rare ability to translate complex concepts into clear, actionable insights, he has become a trusted advisor to companies seeking to capture more of the value they create.

Over the past 25 years, Mark has consulted, trained, and coached hundreds of organizations, from Cisco and Procter & Gamble to Splunk and CrowdStrike. He also works closely with private equity firms and their portfolio companies, helping them price, package, and sell value in ways that increase profits and drive growth.

An award-winning speaker and prolific author, Mark is the host of the Impact Pricing podcast and a frequent guest on industry shows. He has written several influential books, including Impact Pricing, Win Keep Grow, Selling Value, and his latest release, Instant Profits: How to Raise Prices Without Losing Customers.

Website | LinkedIn | YouTube

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include business coaching and advisory work, as well as advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, coaches, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is a podcast show host and the owner of North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®. John and his team work with B2B professionals to create and conduct their podcast using The Generosity Mindset® Method: building and deepening relationships in a non-salesy way that translates into revenue for their business.

John is also the host of North Fulton Business Radio. With over 900 shows and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in its region like no one else.

John’s book, The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices

John Ray at Barnes & Noble with his book, The Generosity MindsetJohn Ray is the author of the five-star rated book The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices, praised by readers for its practical insights on raising confidence, value, and prices.

If you are a professional services provider, your goal is to do transformative work for clients you love working with and get paid commensurate with the value you deliver to them. While negative mindsets can inhibit your growth, adopting a different mindset, The Generosity Mindset®, can replace those self-limiting beliefs. The Generosity Mindset enables you to diagnose and communicate the value you deliver to clients and, in turn, more effectively price to receive a portion of that value.

Whether you’re a consultant, coach, marketing or branding professional, business advisor, attorney, CPA, or work in virtually any other professional services discipline, your content and technical expertise are not proprietary. What’s unique, though, is your experience and how you synthesize and deliver your knowledge. What’s special is your demeanor or the way you deal with your best-fit clients. What’s invaluable is how you deliver outstanding value by guiding people through massive changes in their personal lives and in their businesses that bring them to a place they never thought possible.

Your combination of these elements is unique in your industry. There lies your value, but it’s not the value you see. It’s the value your best-fit customers see in you.

If pricing your value feels uncomfortable or unfamiliar to you, this book will teach you why putting a price on the value your clients perceive and identify serves both them and you, and you’ll learn the factors involved in getting your price right.

The book is available at all major physical and online book retailers worldwide. Follow this link for further details.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Tagged With: AI, AI and pricing, AI and workflows, AI in professional services, attorneys, client value, coaches, consultants, cpa's, diagnosing value, expert service pros, fractional executives, Impact Pricing, John Ray, Mark Stiving, pricing frameworks, pricing mistakes, pricing models, pricing strategy, productivity, productivity tools, professional service providers, The Generosity Mindset, The Price and Value Journey, value based pricing

Paul Zanardo, Zanardo Dezignz, Beau Billington, The Free Agent, and Mitesh Patel, Blue Sky Law

September 30, 2024 by John Ray

Paul Zanardo, Zanardo Dezignz, Beau Billington, The Free Agent, and Mitesh Patel, Blue Sky Law on ProfitSense with Host Bill McDermott
North Fulton Studio
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Paul Zanardo, Zanardo Dezignz, Beau Billington, The Free Agent, and Mitesh Patel, Blue Sky Law (ProfitSense with Bill McDermott, Episode 62)

In this episode of ProfitSense, host Bill McDermott talks with three distinguished guests—Paul Zanardo, Beau Billington, and Mitesh Patel—about the strategies behind marketing, the value of fractional executives, and the essentials of business exits. Paul Zanardo, Zanardo Dezignz, discusses misconceptions in marketing and the importance of organic growth over paid ads. Beau Billington, The Free Agent, elaborates on the role and benefits of fractional executives in business. Mitesh Patel, Blue Sky Law, covers critical facets of preparing for a business exit, such as legal audits and maximizing company value. 

Bill McDermott concludes the show with an insightful comparison between financial planners and business exit planners, emphasizing the significance of both for entrepreneurs.

ProfitSense with Bill McDermott is sponsored and presented by Bill McDermott, The Profitability Coach, and the show is produced by John Ray and the North Fulton affiliate of Business RadioX® in Alpharetta.

Paul Zanardo, Zanardo Dezignz

Paul Zanardo, Zanardo Dezignz, on ProfitSense with host Bill McDermott
Paul Zanardo, Zanardo Dezignz

Paul Zanardo is the CEO and Founder of Zanardo Dezignz.

Paul Zanardo’s background of over 25 years was in sales and marketing. He turned his attention to entrepreneurship in the early 2000’s. While studying website design and earning his degree in graphic design, he opened Zanardo Dezignz in the same year of 2015. Zanardo Dezignz has grown into an award-winning, nationwide marketing communications agency with locations in Alpharetta and Lawrenceville, GA.

Zanardo Dezignz exists to honor God by partnering with business service providers on website design, hosting services, SEO, graphic design, & digital marketing, achieving the highest reputations online.

Paul was named Solopreneur of the Year by the Greater North Fulton Chamber of Commerce in 2024.

Website | LinkedIn |  Instagram | Facebook | X (Twitter) | TikTok | Paul’s LinkedIn

Beau Billington, The Free Agent

Beau Billington, The Free Agent, on ProfitSense with Host Bill McDermott
Beau Billington, The Free Agent

Beau Billington is the Founder of The Free Agent.

The Free Agent helps companies hire above their weight class, helping them unlock that next level of growth by providing access to vetted and battle-tested experts. They deliver interim, fractional and strategic leadership to plan, scale, and grow your business.

The Free Agent provides access to a vetted bench of battle-tested experts that work directly with technology companies in hyper-growth. Their experts have backgrounds in sales, marketing, technology, product, operations, and finance and are available on a fractional, interim, or full-time basis. Simply put, they provide the right strategic expertise at precisely the right time in order to accelerate results.

Their Core Values:

  • Open and Honest (Transparent)
  • Own the Outcome, Either Positive or Negative (Accountable)
  • Clear and Quick Communication (Responsive)
  • Intimately Understand our Customers Needs (Inquisitive)
  • In the Trenches with Customers and Employees alike (Dependable)

Website | LinkedIn | Beau’s LinkedIn

Mitesh Patel, Blue Sky Law

Mitesh Patel, Blue Sky Law, on ProfitSense with Host Bill McDermott
Mitesh Patel, Blue Sky Law

Mitesh Patel is Founder and Principal of Blue Sky Law.

Blue Sky Law is a boutique law firm focused solely on middle-market, privately held companies. Blue Sky Law is armed with experienced attorneys from diverse work backgrounds, and its specialties include mergers & acquisitions, employment disputes and counseling, corporate law, business disputes, contract disputes, general litigation, and real estate transactions and disputes.

Blue Sky Law’s attorneys have decades of combined experience in handling legal business-related matters for their corporate clients, which matters include buying and selling of businesses, creating partnership agreements and contracts, buying and selling commercial real estate, filing and defending lawsuits on behalf of our corporate clients, including partnership disputes, noncompete and trade secret disputes, landlord and tenant disputes, and all types of breach of contract suits.

From entities to acquisitions to disputes, Blue Sky Law knows that the devil is in the details when it comes to navigating business law. They learn the intricacies of your business and offer flexible and individualized service. As former business owners themselves, Blue Sky Law’s attorneys understand that business owners face a complex, ever-changing legal landscape.

Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Mitesh’s LinkedIn

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Welcome to ProfitSense
00:44 Meet the Guests: Paul Zanardo, Beau Billington, and Mitesh Patel
01:00 Paul Zanardo on Marketing Misconceptions
02:17 The Importance of SEO and Online Reputation
06:37 Challenges with WordPress and Ethical Marketing
11:09 Introduction to Beau Billington and The Free Agent
11:24 Understanding Fractional Executives
12:38 The Origin Story of The Free Agent
14:22 Product Market Fit and Business Growth
16:31 When to Leverage Fractional vs. Full-Time Resources
19:44 Current Market Trends and Future Outlook
21:51 Introduction to Mitesh Patel and Blue Sky Law
22:17 Preparing for Business Exit: When and How
25:22 Maximizing Business Value: Key Strategies
26:59 Understanding Legal Audits for Businesses
33:36 Tax Credits and Deductions for Manufacturers
36:57 Finding the Right Attorney for Your Business
39:40 Bill McDermott’s Commentary: Financial Planner vs. Business Exit Planner
42:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

About ProfitSense and Your Host, Bill McDermott

Bill McDermott
Bill McDermott

ProfitSense with Bill McDermott dives into the stories behind some of Atlanta’s successful businesses and business owners and the professionals that advise them. This show helps local business leaders get the word out about the important work they’re doing to serve their market, their community, and their profession.

Follow this link to find the show archive.

The show is presented by The Profitability Coach. The Profitability Coach helps business owners improve cash flow and profitability, find financing, break through barriers to expansion, and financially prepare to exit their business.

Bill McDermott is the Founder and CEO of The Profitability Coach. When business owners want to increase their profitability, they don’t have the expertise to know where to start or what to do. Bill leverages his knowledge and relationships from 32 years as a banker to identify the hurdles getting in the way and create a plan to deliver profitability they never thought possible.

Bill currently serves as Treasurer for the Atlanta Executive Forum and has held previous positions as a board member for the Kennesaw State University Entrepreneurship Center, Gwinnett Habitat for Humanity, and Treasurer for CEO NetWeavers. Bill is a graduate of Wake Forest University, and he and his wife, Martha, have called Atlanta home for over 40 years. Outside of work, Bill enjoys golf, traveling, and gardening.

Connect with Bill on LinkedIn and Instagram and follow The Profitability Coach on LinkedIn.

Tagged With: Beau Billington, Bill McDermott, Blue Sky Law, fractional executives, Mitesh Patel, Paul Zanardo, ProfitSense, ProfitSense with Bill McDermott, The Free Agent, The Profitability Coach, Zanardo Dezignz, Zanardo Dezignz LLC

“How a Fractional Chief Operating Officer Helps Businesses,” with Cary Matthews, Opal Partners Group

July 15, 2020 by John Ray

Opal Partners Group
North Fulton Business Radio
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Opal Partners Group Founder Cary Matthews joins host John Ray to discuss the value a fractional chief operating officer brings to a business, including helping scale, tackling vital operational projects, and more. “North Fulton Business Radio” is produced virtually by the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® in Alpharetta.

Opal Partners Group, LLC

Opal Partners Group, LLC (OPG) is an operations consulting firm. They work with business owners to ensure all aspects of their operations are sound and aligned with their strategic and short-term goals.

They break down client challenges into three levels of the operations hierarchy: Process, Structure, and Strategy.

From younger companies that need to add structure and process to support their growing organization to more established firms that need to solve a singular challenge, OPG can help.

For a company struggling with identifying the root of their challenges,  Opal can perform an operations audit to help hone in on the areas that need improvement.

Cary Matthews, Managing Partner, Opal Partners Group

Prior to starting OPG, Cary was COO at Trextel, LLC, a multi-technology solutions provider in the Atlanta area that performed installation, project management, and managed services for Fortune 500 companies servicing their edge networking.

In that role, Cary led the project management, support services, accounting, and human resources departments.

At Trextel, he restructured the project management and support services teams to increase employee utilization and efficiency, reduced time to invoice, improved cash flow through new vendor agreements, and formalized employee coaching and other human resources practices.

Cary earned a Bachelor of Electrical Engineering and a Master of Business Administration, both from Auburn University.

Activities include serving as a member of the MBA Advisory Board for Anderson University, board member and treasurer for Vision USA, and a member of Vistage International.

He has taken professional development classes at MIT and Georgia Tech.

Point of Contact for Cary Matthews

Company website

LinkedIn

Questions/Topics Discussed in this Show

  • What is a fractional COO? 
  • What are the characteristics of companies who hire fractional executives? 
  • What types of problems does Opal Partners help clients solve? 
  • Operations can be vary from industry to industry.  How does that impact how you help your clients? 
  • What are some of the most common questions or challenges clients bring to you? 
  • From an operations perspective, how has the pandemic changed how companies operate? 
  • What is the biggest takeaway or lesson learned that businesses should be aware of going forward? 
  • How has the rapid move to remote work arrangements affected companies and their operations? 

North Fulton Business Radio” is produced virtually from the North Fulton studio of Business RadioX® in Alpharetta. You can find the full archive of shows by following this link. The show is available on all the major podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, iHeart Radio, Stitcher, TuneIn, and others.

Renasant Bank has humble roots, starting in 1904 as a $100,000 bank in a Lee County, Mississippi, bakery. Since then, Renasant has grown to become one of the Southeast’s strongest financial institutions with over $13 billion in assets and more than 190 banking, lending, wealth management and financial services offices in Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia and Florida. All of Renasant’s success stems from each of their banker’s commitment to investing in their communities as a way of better understanding the people they serve. At Renasant Bank, they understand you because they work and live alongside you every day.

Tagged With: Cary Matthews, chief operating officer, COO, fractional chief operating officer, fractional COO, fractional executives, John Ray, North Fulton Business Radio, Opal Partners Group, virtual chief operating officer

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