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BRX Pro Tip: How to Be a Better Coach

November 14, 2023 by angishields

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Stone Payton: [00:00:00] Welcome back to Business RadioX Pro Tips. Lee Kantor, Stone Payton here with you. Lee, what are your thoughts on how to continue to improve our ability to coach others?

Lee Kantor: [00:00:11] Well, I think a lot of times when someone’s thinking that they’re a coach or they’re thinking about becoming a coach, they think that the knowledge and the expertise is really the most important thing. And in today’s world, I think that the knowledge and expertise are kind of the table stakes. There’s so much knowledge out there that anybody can get anywhere. You don’t even need a coach to get a lot of the knowledge and wisdom that is available in today’s world, on the internet, or on a lot of these AI tools.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:40] So I think what separates the great from good coaches is having systems in place to focus in on support and accountability. I think that having well-built and effective support and accountability tools and services are the cornerstones of good coaching. You want to support your clients by asking them hard questions and giving them honest feedback in a safe space.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:07] You want them to be accountable to themselves, number one, not to you. They have to know that you aren’t there to give them all the answers, but you’re always there to help them figure out the answers. Sometimes people just need to vent and just be heard, and sometimes they need advice and tough love. A good coach is a good listener who asks the right questions and knows the difference.

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November 13, 2023 by angishields

Carinna Boatwright with smaX Photography and Marie with Premier Spa and Wellness Center

November 13, 2023 by angishields

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Carinna Boatwright is the co/owner of smaX Photography, one of the largest sports photography companies in the country. Along with her husband, Jay Boatwright, she started the company in 2008 starting in the action sports arena and evolving into team/individual portraiture for large leagues, country run recreation programs, and private parks.

Carinna is the engineer of smaX ensuring high customer service standards and maintaining integrity with every aspect of the client relationship. Her husband Jay is the photographer, trainer, and artist.

Carinna and Jay are also educators changing lives with their namesake platform called Boatwright Bootcamp instructing other professional volume photographers how to run a successful photography business.

They are blessed to have raised three grown children in Cherokee County, have one grandchild born on the Fourth of July, and their home base is in Hickory Flat, GA. Carinna and Jay’s work can be experienced at www.smaxart.com.

Marie, Premier Spa and Wellness Center

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Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Woodstock, Georgia. It’s time for Kid Biz Radio. Kid Biz Radio creates conversations about the power of entrepreneurship and the positive impact that journey can have on kids. For more information, go to Kid Biz Expo.com. Now here’s your host.

Layla Dierdorff: [00:00:28] Hello. Welcome to KCBs radio. I’m Lila and I’m Austin, and today we have some awesome guests with us in the studio. We have Maria with Premier Spa and Wellness Center and Karina with smacks photography.

Layla Dierdorff: [00:00:40] Hi, ladies.

Austyn Guest: [00:00:41] Hi. Thank you for being with us today. Can you tell us about yourselves and your business? Either of you can go first.

Marie: [00:00:49] Well, my name is Marie and I am with Premier Spa and Wellness Center. I’ve had my business now 30 years. I’m located in East Cobb. I also subcontract out of a chiropractic office in Woodstock. I am a naturopathic doctor as well as a medical massage therapist and a doula.

Austyn Guest: [00:01:09] Okay. Very cool.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:01:10] Okay. And so I’m Carinna with smaX Photography. How did I get started in my business? You know, when I, when I talk about I’m not necessarily the most interesting person by myself, but my business is very interesting. And it also includes my husband, Jay Boatwright. So he he’s like slightly we laugh because he’s like slightly Cherokee County famous because we’ve taken so many pictures of, I mean, probably close to a million pictures here in Cherokee County alone. So of of athletes. But we ended up getting started in our business together. He has a he has a marketing degree. I actually have a culinary degree, which is kind of crazy, but it ends up working out within this within. So I do volume sports and it’s very much like a restaurant kind of feel. It has a very fast paced, it’s very fast paced. So when we when we take our pictures, there’s such a quick turnaround with that that, that my, my catering background really applies to it. Okay.

Austyn Guest: [00:02:14] That’s good. Yeah. Yeah. How do you get started?

Marie: [00:02:18] Well, I got started probably 35 years ago. Somebody was having a pain in their shoulder and they asked, you know, can you just like, rub here? And I did and didn’t think anything of it. And they were like, you should go to school to be a massage therapist. I’m like, yeah, no, I’m not going to do that because I had really long nails and I didn’t want to cut them off. And then a few years later I thought, you know, maybe I should. Yeah. And so I did. And that’s how that began.

Austyn Guest: [00:02:48] Okay. That’s good. Have you guys had any businesses prior to this or is this like your first go around?

Carinna Boatwright : [00:02:55] So me and my husband, we actually did have an insurance business before this. And so it really wasn’t our thing. We’re more creative than that. So for us when we got into the sports industry, it just happened by accident really. We we started taking action shots. And by taking action shots, it eventually evolved into taking team in sports and individuals. So so yeah.

Austyn Guest: [00:03:23] Okay. So was that your first time?

Marie: [00:03:26] This is my first business. Yes.

Austyn Guest: [00:03:28] That’s good. What have you done in the past to help you become successful at this? Because you have some fails and but now you’re here and you’re successful. So what did you do? Mm.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:03:38] Gosh, we had a lot of failure at first because getting into the action photography business, it’s everything is really done on spec. You take all the pictures and then you just pray basically that the parents see the pictures and then they purchase, as opposed to what it is that we do is that we take so in we take care of pretty much most of Cobb, Cherokee and Forsyth. A lot in Gwinnett County is that we come in and we take those pictures and fulfilling those. And what was the original question?

Austyn Guest: [00:04:07] What are some things that you’ve done that we failed? Okay.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:04:10] Well also, but the failure part so is that within the action sports though is that is that we could work very, very long weekends in like 105 degree weather, shooting like All-Star baseball, just constantly going. And it was just killing us. So really being able to hone in and decide where it is, realizing where we needed to put all of our efforts, which eventually ended up being the sports, the volume sports, where we knew parents are going to go ahead there. They want those memories, as opposed to praying that they actually see the action shots that we took.

Austyn Guest: [00:04:46] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Marie: [00:04:48] Well, for me, unfortunately in the economy that we’re in right now, sometimes business is up and down. I try to connect with people through blogging. I do social media work just a little bit of a lot of stuff. I do outreaches or I’ll do some things for. Complimentary just so that I can. Empower people to have self care time. Because if you don’t have self care time. Unfortunately it leads to illness. Decrease energy and it’s just mean.

Austyn Guest: [00:05:26] Just care yourself.

Marie: [00:05:27] Just taking your taking a half an hour or an hour to yourself. Whether it’s a walk in the park, walking your dog, taking a bubble bath, a massage, all those things are important.

Austyn Guest: [00:05:38] Just something to help yourself. Yeah. So personally, everyone has a different definition for every word. What would you say you would define success as personally? This can be how you are successful in your business, how you define it generally, how it’s successful in your own personal life, etcetera.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:05:58] Well, I know for me personally, success would be how it is that I’m able to impact others with the gifts that I’ve been given. Fortunately for me and Jay is that we we kind of when we got into the business, we kind of turned the industry on its head. We we redefined exactly what, what our industry was supposed to look like. And so for us, success wise, is that we are also educators in the industry. So success wise we go in. We have a lot of photographers around the country. We have what’s called a Boatright boot camp, and we have a lot of photographers who come through. We’ve we’ve educated hundreds of photographers on what we do and how to make money at it. So that would be my definition of success when I go in and I can and I can jump on Facebook and I can see all the different threads of people saying, you know, you all have changed our lives. You all have made this possible for us. So that would be my definition is, is just that, that joy that comes from that.

Austyn Guest: [00:06:59] It’s definitely a very good definition. Yes. So it seems like you don’t just do the pictures like you help other people.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:07:05] Yes, yes we do. So it’s, it’s and it is simply because we took something that was like before it was a paper order form. Parents would come in, fill in a paper order form and then hopefully just get a decent individual and a team shot. Me and Jay, what we did is that we have an online platform for parents to see the pictures. So we had to create beautiful images that were going to the parents are going to want to purchase. So creating all of those processes and realizing within the platform that hosts our pictures, they were letting us know really like we were hitting it out of the park. And they really wanted us to become educators. And so working with them, we were able to open up and and show other people what it is that we do and how to make money at what we do.

Austyn Guest: [00:07:50] That’s good. That is really great.

Marie: [00:07:52] Well, I kind of think that success is a relative term. You know, as long as you’re happy with what you do, then that makes all the difference in the world. Of course. I mean, if you’re not happy with the profession that you’re in, then get out to something else. Find something that’s going to make you happy.

Austyn Guest: [00:08:11] That you love doing. Yeah. Yeah, it’s a good answer. In your journey to becoming successful entrepreneurs that you are. Do you possibly have any regrets or setbacks that you wish you would have done, something you would have done differently, or something you could have avoided? Maybe in the process?

Carinna Boatwright : [00:08:31] I wish. I could have watched my children grow up more. I spent it, really? That is a regret. Me and my husband. We. Were we were both young parents. And so we’ve been married 25 years this year. And but we were both young parents and we had these three kids, and we took the kids everywhere to all of our photo shoots. And that would be one of my regrets, is just not being able to at the time. You know, you’re just you’re kind of in it. So we weren’t able to afford the help that we needed necessarily to for me to step back and be able to really enjoy them growing up. Now they’re all older, they’re all in their 20s. So that would be one regret, is that. I by nature, I’m a workaholic, so I did miss out on that part. Okay.

Austyn Guest: [00:09:28] Yeah, that’s a that’s a good one.

Marie: [00:09:32] Well, I think that one of the. I have a few regrets. Actually, one of the regrets I actually have was I was in my last I had like a year and a couple of months left of chiropractic school. I got really sick, I think. I think it was the stress of it because it was really hard. I wish I would have finished chiropractic school. I moved to Georgia with my kids in tow. They were, I think seven and nine and I wanted a different life for them. And so that was one of the regrets. And I didn’t get a chance to spend a lot of time with them, just like she said, you know, when they were younger. And I think the other regret probably is not having. Not having a an associate or a partner. Because when you’re in business for yourself, you know, and you’re by yourself. I wear many hats. Yeah, yeah. I’m the website designer. I’m the I do everything. Yeah. I don’t I don’t have that second person. So sometimes I wish I had a partner.

Austyn Guest: [00:10:43] Yeah. Just to kind of help you around. It does help when you have someone with you.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:10:46] Right, right. Yeah. I mean, I would say also like like you said, you wear so many hats, you end up being, you know, the cleaner, the dishwasher, the accountant, the. Right. Everything. You’re taking everything on your own. And so that would be what I do know. One of my regrets is that early on in our business, we just weren’t able to afford it at the time. But to really have good bookkeeping and an accountant like those are so important.

Austyn Guest: [00:11:10] They are very.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:11:10] Important. Those are the things that you think, okay, I can just take care of this. I’ll come back to it. But sometimes those things can get a little bit out of hand and I can just say through experience, that’s one of the things that when you do get set up. Luckily we have another business that when we opened it, we did all of those things and it’s really been it has not come back and and to get us that’s.

Austyn Guest: [00:11:32] Very so that was one of the next questions was do you have any more like structural very business, less emotional advice for aspiring entrepreneurs? Kind of like how you said get a bookkeeper and stuff. So maybe prevent anything else or.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:11:48] Right, right. The things that aren’t necessarily fun. Um.

Marie: [00:11:55] Basically to have a, you know, a second person, a partner that you can bounce off of each other, you know, ideas, whether it’s for branding, whether it’s social media.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:12:07] Right. Having having more people, I think when, you know, for us, we had to it was just me and Jay for a while. And about three years in, we ended up hiring another main photographer. And now we have four main photographers who we hire, and we have about 20 like part timers that work for us, taking care of of everything and trying to decide that part where you have to sit down and you have to look at the numbers and decide if the, the those resources are going to be. You have to look and you have to say, step back and look at your numbers and say, okay, is this worth it for me to take a pay cut to be able to grow on this end? And, you know, ultimately it always is worth it. The thing is, we’ve never we’ve had a lot of people who’ve come to us and work full time, and it’s never really it’s never been an issue. It’s never been anything where we felt like we overpaid them and they weren’t, you know, they weren’t producing for us. We’ve always been super lucky. I think just being. Being choosy about who who it is that you hire is.

Austyn Guest: [00:13:14] The right person, right?

Carinna Boatwright : [00:13:15] Right. Not just going in. For us, it’s always been somebody who we’ve we’ve personally known. So we do know kind of their background and what type of constitution they have to this business because it is hard the sports photography business, it is very, very physical. Yeah. Yeah.

Marie: [00:13:33] But I also think that, you know, knowing what their background is, it’s hard because, you know, in my other big location, I had several massage therapists that worked for me, and I had one that subcontracted for me. And I know it’s not just massage therapy, I think it’s across the board. Some of them are very flaky. They don’t show up to work on time or don’t show up at all, or they get caught. I caught one of them smoking marijuana in the parking lot, and that’s like a big no no for me. You know, you can’t when you’re in close contact with somebody if you want to do that on your time, that’s wonderful. But not on my time. Yeah.

Austyn Guest: [00:14:17] Not while you’re working.

Marie: [00:14:18] But but yeah, I think that. Hiring, the hiring and the firing part is. Not always having the right people to work for you.

Austyn Guest: [00:14:30] Yeah. Good good, good. So we’ve talked about the past and the present. Let’s talk about the future. Do you have any future goals or aspirations for your business? It could be next month. It could be in 15 years. Anything you like?

Carinna Boatwright : [00:14:43] Yeah. Future goals. I know for us. So we we do photograph all the way far, far north is Nashville. And all the way down to Tampa. Oh, wow. Okay. Our goal is really is to get out of the Florida. In fact, we just we just came back yesterday from a big conference where we’re just trying to kind of take over Georgia. So we we saw a lot of Parks and Rec. Um, I guess board members over this past weekend. So we were able to spend a lot of time with them, just concentrated here on Georgia. So I think we really want to kind of just bring everything kind of back home. So we’re not traveling as much too, because travel really it it beats us up. It beats up our equipment, our vehicles, everything. So yeah, that’s really our future goals is to bring everything kind of back home. Yeah.

Austyn Guest: [00:15:35] Constantly traveling can definitely be a hassle at times.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:15:37] Yeah, it sounds glamorous, but it’s not.

Austyn Guest: [00:15:40] Yeah, it also just takes up so much time where you’re not getting to work. You’re stuck traveling, driving an airport, are you?

Marie: [00:15:48] Well, I graduated last year, so I’m a naturopath now, and I’m hoping that in the future I’m, you know, I’ve got another partner now who? He’s going to be doing some stuff with me. Remote. I’ll be doing a lot more hands on so we don’t diagnose. We don’t do anything like that. What we do is we do testing different types of testing to find out kind of like what’s wrong with someone. And then we do the recommendations, whether it’s a supplement, whether it’s ozone therapy, different therapies for them to help them. You know, get better. That’s my goal.

Austyn Guest: [00:16:30] All right. Yeah. Okay, so we are going to ask a couple of kind of deeper thought questions. So just a heads up. If you had the attention of the world for the whole world for five minutes, everyone was paying attention to you and listening to what you were saying. What would you say?

Carinna Boatwright : [00:16:48] Okay, I thought about this because I got a I got this question ahead of time. So. Okay, okay, so I am in an interesting industry because we deal with so many young people. I, we shoot kids from three years all the way up to 14 years old. That’s kind of like our niche market. And so if I had so what’s the question if I had five minutes, if you had.

Austyn Guest: [00:17:13] The attention of the whole world for five.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:17:15] Minutes, this would be directed at the parents.

Austyn Guest: [00:17:18] Okay. Okay.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:17:20] So I do I get a really interesting perspective on this. Parents let your kids be kids, like stop hovering over them. Let them make mistakes. Raise them like, okay, I was a child of the 80s and I. I think parents need to do that more often. Let your kids get on a bike and disappear for five hours and they’re not going to really disappear. They’re going to come back. They’re going to have so much fun. They’re going to have so many crazy stories to tell you. And the thing is, is I think there’s a lot of kids who don’t have those crazy stories anymore because their parents are just not letting if you never let your kids do anything, they’re not. And that’s my thing. And so I see these kids and they show up for these photo shoots, and their mom or their dad is like standing over them, telling them exactly how to how to act, how to how to smile, how to everything. The kid is choosing the pose. The mom’s yelling at him, no, do this, do this. And I’m just like, just let it go.

Austyn Guest: [00:18:26] Yeah, just let them have the moment.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:18:28] There’s so many things, like just to give your kid that type of responsibility and make them feel like like their their choice is important. Also. I think that could be really empowering. So that’s what I would say. I would say parents, I’ve seen too much anxiety out there on these kids. I mean, you’re basically everybody doesn’t there’s so much anxiety and these. These kids don’t want it, but I feel like the parents are just, like pounding it into their kids. And it’s just. Yeah, it’s it’s pretty bad. And it’s getting worse. It got worse, actually, after Covid.

Austyn Guest: [00:19:07] I could see that.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:19:08] Yeah, yeah. Just to see the behavior, the behavior of the kids. It’s been it’s been really interesting. So I think that’s what I would that’s what I would do.

Austyn Guest: [00:19:17] If kids are stuck in quarantine for however many years, then they’re finally allowed to go back out into the world. And they’re not exactly going to be following every single rule parents have.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:19:26] Right, right. And I think a lot of the problem was that there was a lot of babysitting that happened in front of, you know, their, their devices. So and you can see it, you can see it in these kids.

Marie: [00:19:36] I think if I, if I had five minutes to, to have my little time with the world, I think self care would be it because. People really don’t realize. Not taking self care. We live in a busy, a very busy life. You know, parents are getting little Susie and little Tommy to baseball, to soccer, to gymnastics. And they and I understand being a parent, even though my kids are older, out of the house. Now, if you don’t take that self care time for you, no one’s going to take it for you. So you have to take that. Whether it’s our to come get a massage or whether it’s your half hour or hour to walk in the park with your dog or you’re by yourself. No one’s going to do it for you. You know, you have to have that quiet time, even if it’s a bubble bath.

Austyn Guest: [00:20:34] Just something for yourself.

Marie: [00:20:35] And you close the door. So it’s just you, or maybe your time with God. Maybe that’s that time where you need to get, you know, in the word, whether it’s the Torah or the Bible, whatever it is. But you have to have self care time. Yeah, I think that’s important.

Austyn Guest: [00:20:51] It is very important to make sure your self is taken care of above all. Okay. So we’ve had some very deep questions. We’re going to lighten up a little bit and play this or that. Okay. Sounds great. Quick speed round. Answer as fast as you can. All right. So cats or dogs? Dog. Dog. Spider-man or Batman. Spider-man. Batman. Books or movies. Books. Waffle or curly fries. Curly. Curly. Mountains or the beach. Beach. Mountains. Sweet or salty. Sweet. Sweet. Chocolate or fruity candy. Chocolate cake or pie. Cake. Low or high rise jeans.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:21:34] High.

Austyn Guest: [00:21:35] High. Yeah. Good. Comedy or horror?

Marie: [00:21:38] Comedy.

Carinna Boatwright : [00:21:39] Comedy.

Austyn Guest: [00:21:39] Yeah. All right. Yes.

Marie: [00:21:41] I need some laughter. Yes.

Austyn Guest: [00:21:43] Right. Good, good, good. All right. Well, thank you both for hanging out with us today. We really appreciate it. Can you tell everyone how they can get in touch with you and check out what you’re doing?

Carinna Boatwright : [00:21:58] Okay, so most anybody who needs to contact me so we don’t do any we don’t do like photography. That’s on an individual basis. It’s going to be with with the leagues. And if it messes up, that’s when people contact me. So and what happens is that they get their package and my phone number is in every single package. So they’ve gotten in contact me and they know how to do it if they need to. Right. But if you want to check it out, we are smack.com. All right.

Marie: [00:22:29] In order to get in touch with me, you can go to my website which is W-w-w dot Premier Wellness dot net and our phone number is 770369 3606.

Austyn Guest: [00:22:40] All right. Fantastic. Well we enjoyed our time with you guys today. And we know our audience will get so much out of hearing your story. Thanks for listening and we’ll see you on the next one.

 

Stacy Blaiss with BeyondTrust

November 11, 2023 by angishields

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In this episode of Sandy Springs Business Radio, hosts Lee Kantor and Rachel Simon interview Stacy Blaiss, Vice President of Corporate Marketing at BeyondTrust. They discuss the evolving cybersecurity landscape, the importance of protecting customer data, and the role of education in cybersecurity. Stacy explains the concept of unattributed activities in marketing and how BeyondTrust uses employee advocacy to enhance their marketing strategy. They also discuss the future of cybersecurity, the importance of being proactive, and the need for two-factor authentication.

Stacy-Blaiss-BeyondTrustStacy Blaiss, VP of Corporate Marketing at BeyondTrust, leads the team that enables our brand identity and executes marketing programs that drive success for BeyondTrust, our customers, and partners.

Stacy has 20+ years of experience in B2B marketing in the telecommunications, payments, and cybersecurity industries, and is passionate about enabling marketing strategies that connect with the customer’s needs, business problems, and security challenges.

Stacy received her MBA from the Goizueta Business School at Emory University, and a BS from the Indiana University Kelley School of Business. In 2022, Stacy participated in the KPMG Executive Leadership Institute for Women.

Connect with Stacy on LinkedIn.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

  • The use of employee advocacy platforms to amplify organic social media reach
  • Using intent signals to identify and target prospects when they are in-market
  • The balance between paid and organic search
  • The value of “show vs tell” and storytelling in product messaging

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Intro: [00:00:07] Broadcasting live from the Business RadioX studios in Sandy Springs, Georgia. It’s time for Sandy Springs Business Radio. Now, here’s your host.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:24] Lee Kantor here with Rachel Simon, another episode of Sandy Springs Business Radio broadcasting live from the Sandy Springs Perimeter Chamber of Commerce. This episode is brought to you by Connect the Dots Digital. When you’re ready to learn more about LinkedIn and how it meets your business goals. Go to Connect the Dots Dot digital. Well, Rachel, this is going to be a great show.

Rachel Simon: [00:00:49] Yeah, I’m super excited for our guest today.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:51] So who do we have?

Rachel Simon: [00:00:52] We have Stacy Blaiss who is the vice president of corporate marketing at BeyondTrust. Stacy, so great to have you here.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:00:59] Thanks for having me, Rachel.

Rachel Simon: [00:01:01] It’s great to see you. I’d love to hear a little bit about you, what you do and your company.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:01:07] Sure. So I’m Atlanta native, graduate of Dunwoody High School and at BeyondTrust, where I’ve been close to eight years. I’ve had various roles within the marketing team. My most recent function is leading our corporate marketing team, which includes a lot of different marketing functions. It includes digital demand, content marketing, website marketing, operations, and our brand and creative.

Rachel Simon: [00:01:30] That is a lot to to manage as I’m sure what is BeyondTrust do? What is the company all about?

Stacy Blaiss: [00:01:37] Yeah, so BeyondTrust, we’re a leader in identity, access and security and a leader in identity security. And what does that really mean practically? We are a leader in the cybersecurity space. We are we sell software to help companies protect their most important digital assets, their customer data, their intellectual property, their networks. We sell to beat. We’re in the B2B space. So we sell to other companies.

Rachel Simon: [00:02:04] And are there certain industries that you tend to work with or is it a wide variety?

Stacy Blaiss: [00:02:09] We sell across all industries. Some of the ones where we have a strong representation include higher education, finance, retail, hospitality, the kinds of companies you would think that would be vulnerable to, to attacks by hackers?

Rachel Simon: [00:02:25] Oh, absolutely. I mean, finance and higher ed right there seems like it’s ripe for hackers and bad actors in the cyber space. So, I mean, obviously cybersecurity is something that on the business side, on the on the individual side, like we all need to be aware of, think about like, what are some of the burgeoning issues that your company helps to mitigate? Yeah.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:02:48] So, you know, the cybersecurity landscape and the threats are always changing. It’s really fast paced and fast moving. So there’s a lot of different areas that companies can focus on when it comes to protecting their network and their IT environments. And so we’re Beyondtrust really focuses on protecting identities and access. So what does that mean? Right. The identities is what people use to log in and access the network or our business assets every day. And the access is the way that they’re accessing it. So especially since the post pandemic world, huge numbers of people working from home remotely accessing, you know, even pre-pandemic, the idea of you walk into an office and every and everything was kept inside a physical space that had already gone away. And then that’s only accelerated post pandemic. So when you’ve got someone connecting to your network or accessing sensitive resources externally, maybe they’re in their home office, maybe they’re sitting in a Starbucks, maybe they’re traveling in another country. How are you ensuring that that access is protected?

Rachel Simon: [00:03:49] Yeah, I imagine that that is a there’s a variety of areas where, like the hackers can come in and kind of find those vulnerabilities and really take advantage of those those things in various businesses. And obviously customer data is so important to keep protected. Right. Because reputation management, all those various things, security data, we don’t want that stuff out in the out in the world. Although these days I’ve kind of believe, like all of that stuff is just out there floating around.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:04:20] Yes, that’s absolutely true. I mean, the idea of privacy certainly has changed a lot, especially in the social media area and the social media era. For many companies, they think we think of cyber security as a journey. You know, you’re never done, right. So companies are always looking to add additional, whether it’s software technologies to utilize to protect their businesses. But the other piece of that is the human piece. So you know, as a software provider, we certainly position ourselves in the value of what software can use to reduce your risk and to really reduce the chances of a hacker having a successful intrusion. But it can never negate the human factor. Right. And so that’s the other side of it is as. Hackers are becoming more sophisticated, right? You know, there’s this image of of a bad actor as a teenager in their basement in a hoodie. Right. But it’s actually a lot more sophisticated than that. Many times their nation states or people with really advanced knowledge of how to how to social engineer to get in to companies to compromise them. You know, some, some examples of things that we see is a more advanced social engineering is maybe you get a phone call at your desk and you’re really busy and you’re like, hey, it’s Mike from I t we need to install the most recent version of software in your laptop. I’m going to send you a link now to connect. And people just have this reaction of, oh, it’s someone from it. I should take care of that. Right? Or, you know, I personally have gotten fake texts from people I work with in my company. So that means somewhere they’ve got my phone number. I once got a text from our CEO. Hey, Stacey, can you can you send me a link to X, Y or Z and. My CEO. While I know him, he doesn’t typically text me right? But my reaction at first was, wow, this must be important. My CEO is texting me, right? And then you looked into it and found out. Yes, it was indeed a phishing attack that many people at our company were targeted by.

Rachel Simon: [00:06:23] That is wild. That’s crazy. And do you think that in your industry, the hackers are more likely to try to kind of use their tricks on you, or does that happen across the board? A lot of your customers have similar stories where they get know from it. Oh, everyone knows Mike.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:06:44] Yeah. I mean, I think being a cybersecurity company. So I mentioned one of the functions within my team is, is our website. So that includes two pieces. So one is the content and the design of our website. But we also maintain the back end of the website. And we find ourselves under constant bot attacks. Our website is under attack from many different places. So we’ve built in a lot of redundancy and security. So it’s been years now that our site has actually come down, but we ourselves experience those attacks on our site all the time and for our customers again, any company, many companies think, oh, my data isn’t that valuable. But the odds are is every company has data that’s valuable. But there are certainly certain industries that can be greater targets, especially like in the financial space. You know, as I mentioned before, higher education, hospitality, I mean, many, many of the retail and hospitality breaches have really been in the news in the last few years from target to hotels. And that’s can be really scary for people who are impacted. Well, most my credit card on file. How is how is that company that I’m enjoying their product. But how are they protecting my data? And that’s something many of our customers take really seriously, because they know if they lose the confidence of their customers, it can really impact their brand and their ability to meet the needs of their own customers.

Rachel Simon: [00:08:00] Absolutely. So, you know, in your function leading the marketing, how do you utilize what are some of the tools that you use to make sure that your customers, potential customers understand the problems that you solve, how you solve them, and really the the trust that you build with your with your audience.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:08:21] Yeah. So, you know, for our customers, we really believe that knowledge is what’s most important to them. And we really try to position ourselves as that trusted partner. And education is so key. Not only is the cybersecurity landscape and the threat landscape changing quickly, there’s a huge shortage of personnel within the cybersecurity space. So that’s become attractive for new for people coming out of college looking for career changes to enter into cybersecurity. So we never want to assume that someone visiting our site or consuming some of our content knows what all the acronyms mean, right? And it is a complex industry. And so we really focus on trying to using language that’s clear, that’s as simple as possible, that avoids jargon and most importantly speaks in the language that resonates with our customers.

Rachel Simon: [00:09:08] Yeah. That’s so interesting. You brought that up because I am very sensitive to that jargon and like, industry lingo, you know, because when we want to balance, right, that knowledge and education, but then when we speak in lingo, we completely can alienate certain parts of our audience who don’t know what we’re talking about. So that’s very interesting because I’m imagine there’s a lot of technology that goes along with it that is pretty advanced.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:09:36] Yes. I mean, we call like the alphabet soup of cybersecurity, right? And one of our more popular areas of our site that we see a lot of really strong traffic to is we actually have a glossary. Right. And that’s something that we’re constantly maintaining and updating that we see a lot of engagement on, because people may not understand every term, or maybe the way something is defined is changed a little bit. Right. So we have found the glossary has been a really valuable tool on our site for customers, for prospects, even for our own employees.

Rachel Simon: [00:10:03] I bet that is. That’s so interesting. It’s like a next level, frequently asked questions, I’m sure.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:10:09] Yes, yes.

Rachel Simon: [00:10:12] So what else? What are some other aspects of sort of what you do in your role there? You do manage a pretty large team. So I imagine again, in a fast paced industry, then kind of that leadership component can be very busy as well.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:10:27] Sure. I mean, really what it comes down to is like, what’s my number one goal that I’m that I’m measured on that our CMO, our chief marketing officer, is measured on is is pipeline, right. Our business goal is creating pipeline that can generate revenue for the company. So when you think about pipeline, though, there’s there’s some things that you can directly say, hey, this drove a lead or this drove an opportunity. But so much of what we do now is unattributed. And what do we mean by that? Right. We think of it within beyondtrust as demand creation and demand capture. So demand capture is when someone comes to our site, they ask to see a demo. They request a call from sales. Right. So that’s that’s pretty clear. Someone’s raising their hand. They want us to. They want to hear from us. They want to engage with us. And that’s a clear marketing driven opportunity, right? But then there’s all the other things that we’re doing around demand creation. And what we mean by that is the things that are happening maybe even outside of our site. One thing we know in cybersecurity who are cybersecurity buyers, many of them work in IT and they’re in a technical space.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:11:28] And they have natural they have a natural distrust of what vendors say they can do. Right. So we like to think about of show me, don’t tell me right. And who’s doing the showing. Right. There’s our role in the showing, which is how we’re telling our our stories and using our customers as much as we can to talk about how our products and technologies have driven their cybersecurity journey and positive outcomes for them. But we also know that picking up the phone or sending a text message or an email to a trusted colleague, maybe you worked with them before, or maybe you know them from the industry, from a trade group, that a lot of those conversations are happening completely outside of our purview. So how can we get and do and do activities that get beyond trust, top of mind that gets people to think of us in their consideration phase of if they want to tackle, if they want to tackle challenges related to identity and access security, that we are top of mind and that we’re seen as a leader.

Rachel Simon: [00:12:25] So it’s that’s a good segue into, you know, a great way of being top of mind is through your team, right? Like through employees within an organization. So talk to me a little bit about how you utilize employee advocacy in order to help with that, that strategy. Yeah.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:12:45] So we’re extremely active on all social channels but primarily LinkedIn. And so employee advocacy we utilize a tool. It’s called we use Sprout Social. So shout out to sprout. And what it does is it enables our employees to share the content that we write and post as if it’s their own. They can also edit it. They can add an intro to it. Because what we found is that engagement for content that our employees share is like 4 to 5 times what we share under our own Beyondtrust name and our own Beyondtrust account. And our employees really like it because they feel confident that they’re sharing messages consistent with how we’re trying to talk to the market, and that will resonate with our customer. And frankly, it also makes it easier because they don’t have to write their own content, right? Especially within our sales team. They’re really busy. They’re focusing their time on engaging with customers and prospects. And so this enables them to help their personal brand to position themselves as that industry. Is that with that industry knowledge, by by feeding into our entire company content that we know will be relevant to our audience.

Rachel Simon: [00:13:51] Yeah, it’s it’s interesting that you bring up the, the difference in the, the stat between what your company page and what your employee content because it, it I mean, obviously you’re speaking my language here with LinkedIn. Right. But having that robust employee advocacy tool and strategy is so beneficial for organizations. It’s great to see it working well for Beyondtrust. Yeah, we.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:14:17] Have a huge content engine, right? We have a team of content folks that are working on whitepapers, blogs, our web content. You know, we have a PR agency. We actually we have our own podcast. Right. And so a big way we expand the reach of those things is through our social channels.

Rachel Simon: [00:14:34] So as we’re moving into, you know, wrapping up 2023 and going into 2024, what are some trends that you’re seeing or things that you’re looking ahead into the year to come that will sort of impact your industry beyond trust?

Stacy Blaiss: [00:14:49] Yeah. So what we’re finding, you know, I don’t think this is necessarily new. Right. But that the buyer journey and the way people want to buy has changed pretty drastically. So when you think about your experience as a consumer, right, do you want to really want to talk to a sales person? Many times we do all of our own research, and then we might go into a store when we’re actually ready to buy to make a purchase, or we’re doing it entirely online. We’re looking to have as much of that buying process as possible, be a self-service. And that’s no different in the in the B2B buying space. Now, there definitely is within the buying within the buyer journey, there is value. And many of our customers value that that contact with the salesperson, with the sales engineer, especially as they move along the the evaluation of the product stage. But before we ever get to that, you know, 70 to 80% of the buying process is done before they ever even reach out to us, right? So how are we focusing on providing the most information, the best information, so that they can self educate. And we also are really looking for you know, we know that people come to our website. Absolutely. That’s a place you look for information. But if someone’s interested in Beyondtrust, they’ll look at our website and they’ll find they might find value of what we put there, but then they might go on to Reddit, they might go to a review site to get, again, that third party perspective or that pure perspective on how they might be using the product.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:16:07] It’s interesting. We launched our own podcast, our own podcast about a year, a year and a half ago, and one of our goals with it is we don’t talk about what we do or our products at all. It’s it’s hosted by our chief technology officer, and he just interviews different people in the cybersecurity space about the problems they’re facing, challenges that they’re having, and really telling those stories. And it’s just, you know, yes, it helps with our brand, but it’s really not our goal. There isn’t about necessarily directly driving revenue. Right. But what we’re finding is it’s been about a year and a half is the podcast is getting more traction. It has really become a way to talk to people in our market and to just help Beyondtrust be top of mind in a way that doesn’t feel like we’re just pushing our products, but that we are also out there educating and self educating or providing tools that people can self educate. And it’s also interesting what we found is it’s actually helped with our recruiting, with our, you know, we’re always looking for talented engineers and to be developing our products, to be selling our products. And we’ve we’ve gotten feedback that the podcast gets mentioned a lot, you know, as an interview during their interview process of like, hey, this is this is a way I either found out about Beyondtrust or when I was doing my research about your company, I started listening to it and it gave them an insight to kind of who we are as a company.

Rachel Simon: [00:17:22] That’s so interesting. I mean, Lee, not too dissimilar to sort of the approach here, right?

Lee Kantor: [00:17:31] I think that what you’re doing is you’re it becomes almost a product placement when you’re chief technology officer is the host of the content. Your brand is associated with it without saying anything. It just comes along for the ride. And also you’ve excluded all other competitors and noise. So the only really connection that the guest has and the listeners are with your brand. So I think that’s part of the evolution of podcasting in my opinion, over the years, I think has been that when brands see their show or their podcast as a product placement and spend their energy spotlighting their guests and their targets rather than talk about themselves, then they’re better served in the long run.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:18:16] And people love stories, right? They want to hear how the cybersecurity, how the cybersecurity every day people are there in the trenches, right? They’re facing these every day, these attacks and even challenges within their company. I mean, cybersecurity teams and, you know, it and many of which are IT teams, right? They’re traditionally underfunded, under-resourced.

Lee Kantor: [00:18:38] Underappreciated.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:18:39] Underappreciated for sure. Right. But they have a lot of pressure and there’s a lot of expectations on them. And so I think really uncovering and highlighting those stories has been a really important goal of what we’re trying to do with our own podcast.

Rachel Simon: [00:18:52] Yeah.

Lee Kantor: [00:18:52] And then in your business, I would imagine most of your clients are coming to you because of something bad has happened. Right? I mean, what percentage of people are coming because something bad happened and they need your service as opposed to, oh, let’s look into the future and let’s be proactive about this. I’m sure it’s less or doing it that way that you’d like it to be, but it’s probably less.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:19:15] It’s a good question. I think we absolutely will get you’ll you’ll hear of a big company that was breached on the news. And lo and behold, we’re seeing we’re starting to see inquiries and opportunities within Beyondtrust. So there’s absolutely that reactive of a company experienced a breach or an intrusion of some close call or a close call. And I think the flip side of that is when there is major breaches in the news that also the CEO might all of a sudden now.

Lee Kantor: [00:19:39] It’s an elevated priority.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:19:41] Protected against this kind of breach. How did this happen? You know, we have seen and we hear from our customers that there is more awareness and visibility at the sea level for CEOs at the C-suite, but it can really vary. But many times other maybe a competitor or just a huge a huge breach on the news can then drive. Well, are we protected against that?

Lee Kantor: [00:20:02] Right. Because now it’s a priority. Because if it was on the news, then I’m paying attention, right?

Stacy Blaiss: [00:20:08] One of the challenges it’s hard to quantify many times the value of not being breached. Right. So so that’s a challenge within cybersecurity is proving your value. So look if you can say your company hasn’t experienced a breach in several years. That’s a testament that what you’re doing is working right. But that can still be harder to quantify versus if you did have a breach and how you reacted or what the business impact was of that.

Rachel Simon: [00:20:34] There’s a reason why we all have insurance, right? Right. You have it when you you don’t use it until you need it. But when you need it, you really need it. So the idea of having these tools in place to protect and not having any issues means that’s a good thing, right?

Lee Kantor: [00:20:50] Right. But from a company standpoint, it’s hard to get your customer to appreciate that, because a lot of times it’s an out of sight, out of mind. It’s like when you’re not seeing that, then you’re like, well, do I really need that? And that’s where you have to always kind of remind your customer that, hey, we’re working here hard and we’re doing a lot of things you may not be noticing, but we’re here for you in case that situation does occur.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:21:15] It’s interesting you mentioned insurance. You know, there is cybersecurity insurance. And the last year and a half, two years, we were hearing from customers that it was harder to requalify, even if they hadn’t themselves suffered a breach because the number of payouts was going up. That insurance company were insurance, cyber insurance policies. And the companies that issue them were really raising the criteria for qualification for these policies. So it’s really been interesting. And that was a great opportunity for us to talk about how our products specifically can align to requirements by cybersecurity, by for cyber insurance policies. And that’s been that’s also you talked about drivers, right? So maybe you’ve suffered a breach. Maybe there’s a big breach in the news. But maybe you’re trying to renew your cyber security policy that you didn’t have any issues with the past few years. And your insurance company is saying, hey, in order for us to renew your your policy, you have to show proof that you’ve done these, these steps and taken these activities to protect your your network. Yeah.

Rachel Simon: [00:22:15] I was actually curious if there’s like legislation out there that says, you know, mandates like what companies have to do to protect their customer data.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:22:24] Yeah. So different industries can be subject to different requirements. And it’s also different by region. Europe has they they rolled out GDPR which we’re talking about acronyms. I’m trying to remember what stands for right in the US actually when it comes to privacy, our requirements tend to be less or more lax compared to to Europe. But then within each industry, like I’ll use healthcare as an example. Many of you are probably familiar with HIPAA. Every time you go to the doctor, you have to sign your HIPAA statement. And so companies in the health care space have certain requirements to protect what’s called personally identifiable data or for their for their patients. Right. And so, you know, hospitals, doctor’s offices, anyone in the health space, they may have certain requirements that they are required to do to be compliant with that mandate. So that’s definitely something we also look at and we think about education is how can certain products or certain functions or approaches to cybersecurity can enable customers in certain industries that are that that have to meet certain requirements, actually meet them?

Rachel Simon: [00:23:27] Yeah. Just thinking about like the wide variety of industries, the different requirements per industry again. And then Beyondtrust is a global company. Correct. So you have customers all over the world who have different requirements based on where they are. That’s a lot of, you know, things to manage in a fast moving space where there’s just a lot of people trying to do bad things and get people’s information. Yes.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:23:55] And there’s not one like global requirement, right? So we have a presence and have been growing substantially in Australia as an example. So they’re they call the Australian Essential Aid as something that the Australian government has put out. So you know, for companies that are in the US may not be as relevant, but for our, for our sales team and our engineers in Australia, it’s something they’re really focused on and how to educate customers on how to align with the Australian Essential eight. Because if you’re a company based in Australia, you are required to comply with that mandate.

Rachel Simon: [00:24:24] So interesting. Well, I think we’re kind of at our time. This has been so fascinating. Any last things you would love the audience to know about you, about Beyondtrust?

Stacy Blaiss: [00:24:35] Yeah, I think, you know, when it comes to marketing and cybersecurity day to day, the pace is really fast. We have to move as fast as the industry does, and I think it’s something really exciting place to consider. You know, there’s so many different roles within marketing, within my team, within the larger marketing team, we also have field marketing, product marketing. And I think for the folks that come in to marketing functions within the cybersecurity space, they become super marketable. They learn great skills. It’s a really exciting place to be a marketer right now.

Rachel Simon: [00:25:07] Absolutely. It sounds like it. And, you know, where’s the best place to find out more about you and Beyondtrust?

Stacy Blaiss: [00:25:13] Sure. So, you know, our website are, you know, our most visible sales person, beyondtrust.com. You can access information about our podcast, Alison. And Bob, they’re about our company. And I can be found on LinkedIn.

Rachel Simon: [00:25:27] Excellent.

Lee Kantor: [00:25:28] Now, before we wrap, I want to get just some knowledge, a little bit of your low hanging fruit for anybody out there when it comes to protecting themselves. Is there anything kind of that’s easy for most people can do that. Maybe they’re not thinking about to protect themselves.

Speaker5: [00:25:43] Yeah. Mean.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:25:43] I think when it comes to low hanging fruit, it’s always be suspicious, right? Is, you know, don’t just trust that because it’s a company you do business with that communications you get from them are valid, right? Whether it’s your bank, right? I mean, I know as a bank, for example, they will never call you on the phone and ask you for your password. Right? But again, it’s the bank. It’s very easy for bad actors to maybe find out who you bank with and to try. And that’s that social engineering to say, hey, Lee, I know you bank with Wells Fargo, so I’m going to or I’m going to try sending you a text. Right. Hey, we need you to reset your password. Right. And you just think, oh, yeah, I think at Wells Fargo. So this must be legitimate. So definitely. Especially when you’re being asked for sensitive information like passwords, Social Security number, even your address. Right. Is that really be suspicious if it’s not something you yourself have initiated.

Lee Kantor: [00:26:38] Yeah I know for myself personally, I’m super paranoid of everybody at this point in my life that I’m if I get anything from anybody, I go to the website or I’ll call them myself directly to ask if it’s real or not, because like I am bombarded with, like you said, I know you’re a Wells Fargo customer and it’s like, I’m not a Wells Fargo. So if they’re if somebody’s trying to ping me about that, then there’s going to be other people pinging me and just hoping, or your Netflix subscription is something, you know, something that they’re just taking a shot because a lot of people have Netflix, so they assume that I have Netflix. And so whenever I get something, I’m always proactively going backwards to say, is this real? I’m going to check I’m not clicking on anything anymore at this stage.

Speaker5: [00:27:29] Yeah.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:27:29] And as great as those risks are for your personal life, they can be even greater in the workplace. So the same cautions that you would exhibit in your with your personal life and your personal information, you should bring that same mentality to work.

Lee Kantor: [00:27:40] The same paranoia, the same.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:27:41] The same level of of of just really thinking things through. When you get something that maybe you’re not anticipating or you’re getting an attachment from someone that you weren’t anticipating, even if it appears to be coming from a coworker, especially a superior, that’s often how they will target you, because it’s like, well, you’re going to be more likely, hey, this person who has a lot of seniority is reaching out for you and asking for information.

Lee Kantor: [00:28:03] And I don’t want to mess it up. So I’m going to do whatever they say without questioning.

Rachel Simon: [00:28:08] Well, and I’ll share one, one tip as far as on the LinkedIn side, which is if if you do not already have two factor authentication turned on, turn it on immediately, because a lot of people have been having issues getting locked out of their account because someone will log in, kind of access their account, change their password, and if they don’t know their password, they can’t get back in. So turn on that two factor authentication really everywhere, but definitely on LinkedIn.

Lee Kantor: [00:28:33] Is that something, Stacey, that you agree the multi-factor authentication authentication is kind of a must have nowadays. That’s not a, you know, just do it occasionally.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:28:43] I mean, that is a best practice. And something to think about too, is it’s not just for your personal account. For Beyoncé’s business account, we have two factor authentication turned on. Absolutely.

Rachel Simon: [00:28:53] Well, because your team are the ones who access your company page through their personal profiles, and so they’re the company page. Collateral is potentially at risk if their profiles are at risk. Right. So yes, just a good thing across the board.

Lee Kantor: [00:29:08] But it’s tricky from a business to business standpoint because part of your value is speed, right. Like you want the customer to not have friction. And you’re adding now friction on purpose to protect them. And I think people have to just accept a certain level of friction nowadays in order to be safe.

Speaker5: [00:29:27] Absolutely yeah.

Rachel Simon: [00:29:28] I agree.

Lee Kantor: [00:29:28] Now are we almost at the end of passwords? Where do you think we are when it comes to that.

Speaker5: [00:29:33] Yeah. So for.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:29:33] Years there’s been predictions that the password is.

Speaker5: [00:29:36] Going away.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:29:37] Right. You know we are seeing one of our, one of the products that Beyondtrust sells is password safe. Its password vault for business, for business, for business related passwords, for privileged passwords. And while passwords may exist in the background, the idea of having to remember and type in a password is slowly going away, right? So whether it’s through using other types of identification, whether it’s your, you know, your thumbprint, other types of biometric identification, the idea of having to remember and recall passwords is really is really decreasing.

Lee Kantor: [00:30:16] And they’re using more kind of social intent. You’re able to tell tell the software can know that what I’m doing is I’m really me based on behaviors.

Speaker5: [00:30:26] And that’s where some of the.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:30:28] Analytics can come into play. And some of the intelligence behind some of these tools. Right, is maybe, maybe Rachel typically access maybe she’s a privileged user. Right. She’s an IT admin. She needs additional privileges and the average user to to access the account. And she typically is working Monday through Friday from 9 to 5. And guess what? Rachel logs on Saturday night at 2 a.m.. Even though she’s a privileged user and she’s been granted rights that have been validated that she she needs them, that’s an unusual activity, right? So that can be flagged as potentially problematic because it’s outside. That’s where the intelligence comes in. This is outside of her normal behavior.

Lee Kantor: [00:31:09] And I think it’s so important that when you’re working with a company like Beyondtrust, this is all they’re thinking about 24/7. This is all they’re doing. This isn’t something that you this isn’t a do it yourself project. You know, being, you know, safe with cybersecurity. I mean, you have to go with a trusted advisor that is really living and breathing this 24 over seven and learning best practices from all of their clients. You’re getting kind of really robust intelligence from this, from a beyondtrust.

Speaker5: [00:31:39] Yeah, absolutely.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:31:39] As I mentioned with the with the under resources around it and cybersecurity, you know, the vendor relationship is very important. And we also are seeing customers wanting to decrease the number of vendors they have. So the more of their needs and their business outcomes that we can provide, the more we can position ourselves as that trust and be that trusted partner. And, you know, one thing you mentioned was friction. And we know that’s a huge pain point when you’re introducing tools that can help make you more secure, is that you feel that friction. So that’s also a big focus of our of our products is not just making more making companies more secure, but also how can we do it in a way to reduce the friction that doesn’t cause negative impacts on efficiency and the ability to get the job done?

Lee Kantor: [00:32:22] And then one more time before we wrap the website. Website. Beyond trust.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:32:28] Beyond.com.

Lee Kantor: [00:32:29] Good stuff. Well thank you Stacy so much for sharing your story. Doing such important work and we appreciate you.

Stacy Blaiss: [00:32:34] Thanks, guys. I loved being here today.

Speaker5: [00:32:36] Thank you.

Lee Kantor: [00:32:37] And thank you, Rachel.

Rachel Simon: [00:32:38] My pleasure. This was a great conversation and I definitely learned a lot.

Lee Kantor: [00:32:42] All right. Well this is a wrap. We’ll see you next time on Sandy Springs Business Radio.

 

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Rachel-SimonRachel Simon is the CEO & Founder of Connect the Dots Digital. She helps companies ensure that LinkedIn is working for them as an asset, not a liability.

Rachel works with teams and individuals to position their brand narrative on LinkedIn so they can connect organically with ideal clients, attract the best talent, and stand out as a leader in their industry.

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Stone Payton: [00:00:00] And we are back with Business RadioX Pro Tips. Stone Payton, Lee Kantor here with you. Lee, you know, we run a small business. We have all kinds of opportunities. I have a tendency to chase shiny objects. I get excited, but I mean, ultimately you got to kind of pick something, move with it, and a lot of good stuff kind of gets put on the shelf. What’s your counsel on some of those things that came through on the first pass and you didn’t act on? What do you think we ought to do?

Lee Kantor: [00:00:32] Well, I think that, like you said, we’re bombarded with stuff, stuff to do, things that are coming in front of us. And it’s super important in your work as an entrepreneur or especially a solopreneur to capture some of the wins, right? You’ve got to have a list of those accomplishments because that gets you through tough times and that reminds you of all the things you’ve done and all the talent you do have. Right? So you have to have that kind of list of accomplishments and wins to remind yourself of all that stuff. That’s super important.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:05] I think it’s also important to have another list where you’re building a list of things that you’ve passed on. Like in our case, in Business RadioX, we’ve passed on being ninjas when it comes to video. We’ve said, “Nope, that’s not our lane, that’s not what we do.” And it’s important to have this list of things that you’re not going to pursue and not going to invest time, energy, and resources in to remind yourself that you can stay disciplined and stay the course. When things get harder, you’re tempted by other things that are those shiny objects.

Lee Kantor: [00:01:40] So, this way, by having both a list of the wins and a list of the things that you’re not doing helps you kind of stay focused in on the true north and the mission of the operation. I think it’s important to have this list of times you were able to keep the boundaries you set for yourself because it will help you keep disciplined and help you avoid temptation when your confidence wavers somewhere down the line. So, you’ve got to know where you want to go, but you also want to know where you don’t want to go. So, you just stay the course.

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Doing business with the country’s largest customer (the federal government) comes with requirements, opportunities and challenges that other organizations simply don’t have. So, what does it take to be truly successful as a government contractor?

In this episode of The Wrap, Amber Stout, CPA, Jared Sharp, CPA, and Todd McAdams, CPA, CGMA, MACC, join our hosts to discuss the nuances of leading organizations to financial and compliance success in the government contracting industry.

After listening to this episode, you’ll:

  • Be familiar with the opportunities and challenges that are unique to the government contracting industry
  • Understand how research and development expenses are capitalized and amortized—and one important nuance for government contractors
  • Know the basic information you’ll need to provide to meet the unique reporting requirements in this industry
  • Understand what really makes a “DCAA-approved” accounting system
  • Know a few of the most common tax and business mistakes contractors make—and how to avoid them

Resources for additional information:

  • Blog: A Business’s Guide to R&D Expense Capitalization and Amortization Changes
  • Guide: DCAA Compliance: A Comprehensive Guide for Government Contractors
  • Blog: How Can A Small Business Ensure DCAA Compliance?
  • Blog: What Is Included in a DCAA Compliant Indirect Rate Calculation?
  • Blog: Why A DCAA Compliant Chart of Accounts Should Be Your System’s Foundation
  • Blog: What Are the Benefits of DCAA Compliance Consulting?
  • Blog: Don’t Ignore These DCAA Accounting Policies and Procedures
  • Blog: Tips for Protecting your Government Contracting Business with QuickBooks DCAA Compliance
  • Blog: Three Broad Issues a DCAA Audit Can Uncover for Government Contractors
  • Blog: A DCAA Compliance Checklist for Government Contractors
  • Blog: Five Steps to DCAA Timesheet Compliance for Government Contractors
  • Blog: How to Identify an Adequate Accounting System for Government Contracts [12 Important Elements]
  • Blog: Determining the Best Accounting Software for Small Government Contractors
  • Blog: Business Process Optimization: 5 Ways to Improve Your Systems and Processes
TRANSCRIPT

Commentators (0:02): You’re listening to The Wrap, a Warren Averett podcast for businesses designed to help you access vital business information and trends when you need it. So, you can listen, learn and then get on with your day. Now, let’s get down to business.

Paul Perry (0:17): Well, hello, and welcome to another episode of The Wrap podcast. Glad to be back with you today for episode 65. Today, we’re going to be talking to some of our experts in the government contracting space. Look forward to having their expertise come through on the discussion and look forward to what that’s going to be. Today, my cohost for this podcast is Jessica Juliano. Jessica, glad to have you back with us today.

Jessica Juliano (0:44): Happy to be here. We’ve got Amber Stout, who’s a Senior Manager. We’ve got Todd McAdams, who’s a Member in our Huntsville office, and Jared Sharp. You guys, we’d love to hear just a little bit about what y’all do and your career with the firm. Tell us a little bit about yourselves.

Amber Stout (1:03): So, my name is Amber Stout, and I work with government contractors. We really focus on consulting and keeping them out of trouble with the DCAA. That’s very important and just all the different accounting and year-end needs that they have.

Todd McAdams (1:19): My name is Todd McAdams. I’m a member here in our Huntsville, Alabama office, and I help lead our Government Contractors Practice Group. I have worked with government contractors since 2001, so a little over 20 years at this point. In public accounting, but also in industry on that side of the fence. So, I understand all the nuances of what our contractors are going through daily, and as Amber mentioned, help our clients navigate the complexities of working with the United States’ largest customers.

Jared Sharp (2:05): I’m Jared Sharp in the Huntsville office. I’m a Member. I’ve been with the firm since 2005 and focus my practice on tax, mainly with technology, GovCon and spend a lot of time with the R&D tax credit, which we’re going to get into here in a little bit.

Paul Perry (2:24): Good deal. It’s good to have all of you all with us today. In this series of episodes, we have been talking to some experts within different industries. Obviously, the GovCon industry has a lot of unique challenges and opportunities that others aren’t facing. So, Todd, do you want to start us off with: what are some of those challenges or opportunities that this industry faces?

Todd McAdams (2:51): Sure. Thanks, Paul. As I mentioned previously, there are a lot of complexities doing business with the U.S. government. Number one is the compliance requirements that are inherent to doing business with the government. That’s one of our specializations, as Amber mentioned, helping contractors navigate those and make sure they are ready to do business with the government. I would say that’s one of the number one items that we get calls about: “Are we ready to take on this contract to work with the government? Is our accounting system ready? Do we have policies and procedures in place?” Those types of things, I would also say that political climate is always changing, and it does affect the defense industry. That is a concern on our clients’ minds. Then from an opportunity standpoint, they’re obviously in the defense industry. War overall is not good, but in the industry, which does heighten the need for what our clients are providing to the warfighters in the world, that’s certainly an opportunity.

Jessica Juliano (4:15): Thank you, Todd. That was a great summary. We have some topics we’d like to just hone in on. Jared, you mentioned the R&D credit: R&D 174. Do you want to give us a little insight into how that affects your clients?

Jared Sharp (4:35): Yes, certainly. The government contracting industry is unique in that they have some challenges with the way their contracts are structured and who’s actually on the hook for the R&D that’s being done. R&D 174 references an IRS Code Section that has been in the Code for a long time, but it got new life in 2017 with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act that was introduced under the Trump administration. It did not take effect until 2022, and so it didn’t get a lot of publicity at the time when the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act came about. This Code Section that dealt with the research and development expenses was not highly publicized.

It was a revenue generator for the tax side. A lot of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act were tax cuts, and this was one way they had to balance the budget, to put in some revenue generators that are right for the tax side. This didn’t get the headlines, because it made people may pay more in taxes and that was not something they talked about back in 2017 when that bill was introduced. Here we are, obviously, through the year of 2023. We’ve gone through one round of filing tax returns with this being the law for 2022. It was very clear that there were not a lot of people that were ready for this, including most practitioners, right?

I mean, we run to the assumption most of the time that it was going to be overturned and that this bill would not see the light of day. That was all the talk you heard in 2022. 2022 came and went. That didn’t happen. Even in early 2023, we heard, “Well, it’s going to still be overturned.” People weren’t really giving it the attention that I think it needed, even though it had been out there. Now here we are at the end of October. We’re sitting here with a law that’s on the books that’s still being discussed in Congress and being overturned, but we’ve got one tax filing dealt with that had to have this in it.

What it is: If you have research and development expenses, you’re required now to capitalize those for tax purposes and amortize them over a five-year period if they’re U.S. based or a 15-year period if they’re foreign based. There’s a lot of confusion, because we’ve had the R&D tax credit up there for a long time. This does piggyback off the R&D tax credit. But it’s not mutually exclusive in that if I take an R&D tax credit, this provision clearly applies. Even if I don’t take an R&D tax credit, this provision may still apply. It’s a game changer. In the past, all these expenses can be deducted. So, there were immediate 100% deductions. Now, we’re looking at a five-year amortization, or 15-year amortization. It’s a big deal for taxpayers to have to pick up that in their reduction of their expenses and amortize those over a period versus being able to have immediate deduction. We’re seeing a lot of increased tax bills because a lot of people are paying more taxes because of this provision. Your government contractors are no different. The only nuance there is—and it’s still a little bit unclear because we’re still waiting on IRS guidance—but do contracts, or R&D done under contract, do those apply to this provision or not?

From what we’ve done in the past on R&D tax credits, it’s pretty clear that you can take an R&D tax credit related to firm fixed-price work that’s being done under contract. But if it’s T&M or cost-plus type work, it’s not allowed for the R&D tax credit. Well, under these 174 provisions, it’s a little bit unclear. Does that same guidance follow here or not? While I definitely think it follows to your firm fixed-price efforts and your internal R&D efforts, there’s still some question on: Do I have to pick this up in my 174 cost if I’m doing T&M work or cost-plus work, where I’m not really at risk for the financial piece of this, but I’m doing R&D under those contracts and I’m being paid for it?

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Jared Sharp (8:57): So, on the 174 provisions, the 2022 tax returns have come and gone. That was part of those filings. There was not a lot of guidance from the IRS on how to even treat some of these expenses for these 174 provisions. We have gotten some guidance that they released in September, although it’s a notice—not a regulation. The notice is the first thing that they’re going to put out there. It’s got some detail, but not a lot. We’ve got a little bit of initial guidance from the IRS; we do expect more guidance to come early in 2024. That’s the latest we saw. Those are going to be in the form of regulations, which will be a little bit more formal than what they introduced in September. But, you know, my thoughts are on just seeing what the IRS released in the notice.

There’s going to be a lot more detail that goes into these calculations than what I think we’ve done in 2022. For 2022, it was a reasonable method because there was no guidance. I think for 2023 forward, we’re going to have a little bit more emphasis on what actual expenses need to be done and how the allocations work for some of the overhead type items that are part of this whole calculation. I do expect there to be a little bit more heavy lifting in 2023 for some of these 174 calculations.

Paul Perry (10:10): I guess we should note that this was recorded on October 30, 2023. So, any changes to anything from a political landscape perspective may change some of the conversation we have today. But just wanted to make that note for the presentation. Jared?

Jared Sharp (10:25): That’s a good point, Paul, because this has been something that we thought Congress is going to overturn, even before it saw the light of day in 2022. That has not happened. There is currently a bill sitting in Congress that was introduced in June, which wouldn’t repeal this completely, but it would push it back to 2025. That has not been voted on. So, it still has a way to go to even become an actual law. But they are still pushing this in Congress to get this overturned. So, before the end of the year or even in 2024, there might be some political changes to this law that either change the way we’re dealing with it or completely do away with it.

Paul Perry (11:09): Todd, I want to go back to something you talked about. At the opener, when you said that the government people call you and say, “Are we ready to work with the government?” In my very limited financial statement auditor years, in dealing with maybe one or two, I do remember reporting was always a big issue: what they’re reporting and how they’re reporting to the government. Can you break down why that’s unique within this industry that maybe other industries don’t see? Todd and Amber, I’d love to hear both of your opinions on that.

Todd McAdams (11:42): Thanks, Paul. Yeah, there’s many compliance requirements to do business with the government. You know, from a reporting standpoint, if you have certain types of contracts annually, you must submit an incurred cost submission, which is due six months after your calendar year end or fiscal year end. That’s a pretty complex filing that that’s required. We help with those and help contractors complete and file those. But backing up, there’s a lot of information you have to capture to populate those types of filing requirements. That’s where the accounting systems come into play to make sure you’re tracking costs in direct buckets and indirect buckets—segregating those—and allowable versus unallowable expenses. One of the misconceptions with a lot of our contractors is that, “Okay, well, I’ve got this certain accounting system, and it’s DCA approved.” That’s not necessarily the case. If you have a certain product that’s commonly used in the GovCon industry, that’s great. But the system must be set up and operate in a proper manner.

Amber Stout (13:02): To add to that: For many of our clients, each of their contracts are unique in the requirements. Some contracts don’t require incurred costs, some require more. They require different areas to be tracked, along with the ability to propose on future legs of the contract. It’s really important to review each contract. The Department of Homeland Security might have different requirements. So, it’s just really important for them to read and understand each contract.

Jessica Juliano (13:39): As Warren Averett, we serve over 250 government contractors. Another important area we’d like to have y’all discuss is how you serve our clients in regard to DCAA compliance and the agreed-upon procedures that are currently part of your support and advice to our clients. Let’s talk about that a little bit.

Todd McAdams (14:04): Yeah, I can cover that. Thanks, Jessica. With the compliance with DCAA, they will want to come in and approve your accounting system. You can’t just knock on their door and say, “Hey, I’m ready for an audit. Come talk to me and approve my accounting system.” A lot of contractors think that’s the way it happens. But once you get educated a little bit and understand what DCAA does and who they work for, those pre-award accounting system audits or reviews, those are going to be requested by the contracting officer. If you’re proposing on a contract that’s cost-type in nature, that contracting officer is going to require DCAA to come and look at your system, because they want to make sure that you’re tracking costs adequately in the proper areas and that you’re going to be able to build the government in those cost buckets in the proper manner. It’s a little bit the chicken or the egg.

To get an approved accounting system, you must have a cost-type contract. You can’t get one until you have the cost-type contract. So, it’s a catch 22. What Jessica is mentioning, the agreed-upon procedures, we as an audit firm with the GovCon specialization, we can come in and do a mock DCAA audit. We take their programs that are public, the SF 1408, which is the system requirement checklist that they go through. We have worked with DCAA through actual accounting system audits with clients, so we’re very familiar with the process. We can come in a safe environment ahead of time, run through those checklists, run through the system, advise the client on setup, policy, policies and procedures, and recommend any corrections that need to be made. Then, we can opine on the system and provide the client an audit report that states what the DCAA’s report would. That can be used in proposal situations. It can be used if you’re a subcontractor that’s being awarded a large cost-type contract to give them comfort with your system. Because we get calls on this frequently as well, where a large prime contractor will call a small business, “Hey, we want to come look at your system to make sure it’s adequate.” It’s a very competitive thing. You don’t want to open your books to other contractors in most cases. A lot of times, they’ll accept an audit report from a CPA firm covering that adequacy.

Amber Stout (17:06): We’ve even had clients come to us, “Are we ready to go for a cost-plus?” They want to know that before they ever step foot in that door, “Can we do this? Are we prepared? What do we need to do? What infrastructure do we need to change to be competitive?” Sometimes, it’s just a comfort letter for the Board or ownership.

Todd McAdams (17:29): Yeah, and the sooner that you start thinking about an accounting system and having it approved, the better. We can do these agreed-upon procedures on the design of the system. So, it doesn’t even have to be operational yet. We can help on the very front end, structure the system, the policies and issue that design adequacy report. Then, we can always follow it up with an operational test if needed.

Paul Perry (18:04): Amber, I want to go back to when you’ve worked with some of those clients. I know y’all work with a lot of clients throughout the year. What are the top two things that you usually see that they must correct before they’re ready to jump into it?

Amber Stout (18:25): Top two things? Policies and procedures. Everybody in your company, your 1020-person company, knows what you do when XYZ occurs, but you must have it written down. DCAA is going to want to audit you on that policy. They don’t care if everybody knows it by memory, they want to see that. So that is something that a lot of when we come in, a lot of them don’t have written policies, and we help them. The other thing is internal controls. Everyone has access to the checkbook, and everyone can write a check. DCAA really wants to see that control. You know, the person who’s writing the checks also reconciles the bank account, just those simple things as a small business. Everybody’s wearing a thousand hats, and it’s easy to forget that as you grow, you’ve got control, and they want to see that you’re capable of being fiscally responsible.

Paul Perry (19:24): You just put some minds at ease. Because if there are 100 people listening to this, I bet you half of them said, “Oh, that’s me.” So, they need to know they’re all in a similar boat.

Amber Stout (19:34): Absolutely. Yeah. When you get your first contract, it might be just you or you and one employee. It’s not necessary at that time. Then, they love what you do. They love the service you provide. They’re like, “Bring me another employee and build me another widget.” Suddenly, you’re 1,015 people and you haven’t had time to slow down and even think about infrastructure. So, reaching out and talking to your consultant, “Hey, what can I do to be prepared for growth?” That’s a good first step.

Todd McAdams (20:04): Amber, I’ll add on to that as a great point. The opposite side of that, I’ve seen where a new contractor or small business will have googled policies and procedures for GovCon, and they have put something in place. It’s expansive policy and procedure. You can have the greatest policy procedure on paper, but if it’s not what’s happening in your daily operations, that’s not good. So DCAA certainly wants to see the policy and procedure, but also, as Amber mentioned, those being lived out each day.

Paul Perry (20:46): Jared, from a tax side, the same question. When people are getting into this, what are some of the pitfalls that they find themselves in from a tax perspective?

Jared Sharp (20:58): I think just making sure that you’re having conversations early, similar to the accounting system in that you understand: How am I going to be taxed? Especially if it’s their first venture into entrepreneurship and doing that, they’re not a hundred percent clear on the tax. How am I going to be taxed? Is it on my personal return? Is it a corporate tax expense? Just planning on that aspect of it, you know. Type of entity can matter. Having those conversations early on about what type of entity structure it is. Todd and Amber, there are certain reasons why a lot of our GovCon companies are S corps versus LLCs and partnerships.

Those types of things can matter, when it comes to not just the tax, but also making sure you’re setting up properly for DCAA, contract rate purposes and all that. The other thing is even if you’re established business and you’ve been doing this for a while: the planning aspect of it. Just having the conversations throughout the year with your tax advisor on: What am I doing that can reduce taxes or am I doing something that can increase what I’m going to pay in April?

As an example, Amber and I have a client that is cash basis, and they just picked up a big contract. It’s going to be some money up front that might cause some tax burden now versus next year. Having those conversations just so they’re prepared, right? So, they don’t assume that this is not going to be taxable income to me, because I’ve not started the expense side of that contract. Those are the things that we obviously want to talk to our clients about throughout the year, not just when it comes time to file the tax return.

Todd McAdams (22:41): From a political standpoint, one of the largest challenges at this exact moment is that we’re under continuing resolution. So, there’s not been the annual appropriations bill passed. We don’t have a budget for fiscal year 2024. That continued resolution expires November 17. Hopefully, we’ll have everything worked out by then. But if not, there could be an additional continuing resolution and the president will sign the appropriations bill before the end of the calendar year.

Amber Stout (23:31): I wanted to add back to the opportunities. As Todd said, none of us wants to see a war. But when this happens, it does create opportunities. One of my clients won a contract to produce something they were producing in Ukraine, and the government couldn’t live without it. It was an opportunity we weren’t expecting. Of course, and fortunately, it came to us, and we were able to take advantage of it. As a small contractor, they had prepared with their budget forecasting, and were ready to take on unforeseen projects.

Todd McAdams (24:08): To tie in with that, Amber, with Jared’s comments on R&D, a lot of times and uncertainty with wartime efforts and support to other nations, the U.S. must reallocate or shift funds from R&D expenditure to those types of support efforts. Depending on the type of contractor and what they do, whether it’s heavy R&D, support, missile defense or things of that nature, we hear success stories in certain cases. Then, we hear, “Well, our funding’s on hold or it’s on the chopping block.” So yeah, a lot of opportunity. I love working with the GovCon industry. We support those who support the warfighter. That’s our motto within our GovCon Industry Group, and we strive to live that out each day to support them.

Jessica Juliano (25:09): Here on The Wrap, we’d like to wrap everything up in 60 seconds or less. What’s the one piece of advice you want to leave with business leaders today?

Todd McAdams (25:19): Don’t wait until you have to have one of these compliance requirements solved. The sooner that you can reach out to your advisor, the better. It’s much easier to put a system in place when there is no system. From scratch, it’s honestly easier to stand it up on the right footing. That would be my advice if you’re getting into the GovCon industry. Reach out to your advisor, and just surround yourself with those that have been through this before and can help you succeed.

Paul Perry (25:59): Amber?

Amber Stout (26:01): Going to echo Todd a little bit. You must be prepared because opportunities arise quickly. You can’t be looking back and going, “Wait, what am I doing?” You’ve got to have most of your ducks in a row. Also remember, your business is unique. Just because Jane or John next door is doing XYZ doesn’t mean you can’t do something else.

Jessica Juliano (26:28): Jared, how about you?

Jared Sharp (26:30): Yeah, Jessica, I would say as it relates to the 174 R&D tax credits, if you’ve not dealt with that and you’re doing R&D or thinking about doing R&D, whether it’s internally funded or under contract, we need to have a conversation and talk about what that entails. Do you have a tax credit out there? Do you have implications that fall under this 174 provision? Just plan on making sure that we handle it correctly on the tax returns.

Paul Perry (27:01): Ladies and gentlemen, this has been a wonderful conversation. Thank y’all for lending your expertise to this discussion. We appreciate having you here on The Wrap. We look forward to hearing from y’all soon.

Commentators (27:14): And that’s a wrap. If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a review on your streaming platform. To check out more episodes, subscribe to the podcast series or make a suggestion of other topics you want to hear, visit us at https://warrenaverett.com/thewrap.

BRX Pro Tip: When Do You Ask for Help?

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Stone Payton : [00:00:00] Welcome back to Business RadioX Pro Tips. Stone Payton, Lee Kantor here with you. Lee, one of many shortcomings, for me, I’m learning all the time is sometimes I’m a little slow to let people know that I need some help, and certainly to actually take the action of asking for help. What are your thoughts on this whole business of, I don’t know, when to ask for help?

Lee Kantor: [00:00:26] I think just ask yourself that question, when do you ask for help? Like, what has to be happening for you to ask for help? How stuck do you have to be? How desperate do things have to get? Think about it. When was the last time you invested in yourself? How much time have you wasted stuck in neutral, when there might be someone who has already been there and done that, and they’re available to help? All you have to do is ask them.

Lee Kantor: [00:00:52] So, you don’t want to have to keep waiting for a miracle. You can start looking for help today, and maybe that’s a coach. Maybe it’s someone you already know in your network. If you’re in a hole, the first step is to stop digging. The next step is to take action and try something else. So if you’re in a hole, try asking for help today.

Lead with the Ask

November 8, 2023 by angishields

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