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Why Value Pricing Still Feels Hard with Alastair Dryburgh

July 23, 2025 by John Ray

Why Value Pricing Still Feels Hard with Alastair Dryburgh, on The Price and Value Journey podcast with host John Ray
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Why Value Pricing Still Feels Hard with Alastair Dryburgh (The Price and Value Journey, Episode 140)

Value pricing sounds great in theory. So why does it often fall flat in practice?

In this episode of The Price and Value Journey, pricing strategist and author Alastair Dryburgh joins host John Ray to explore the gap between creating value and getting paid for it. Many professionals know they should price based on results, not time. But when it comes to presenting the proposal, the conversation often unravels.

Alastair shares what’s missing from traditional value pricing advice. He explains how to help clients recognize your impact, why your most valuable work often feels deceptively simple to you (and why that’s the “paradox of genius”), and how to position yourself so competitors fade into the background. He also offers a clear perspective on how AI is reshaping pricing strategy and why clinging to hourly billing can put your business at risk.

This is a practical and honest conversation for professionals who want to price with more confidence and conviction.

The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of the Business RadioX® podcast network.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Why value pricing often breaks down in the sales process
  • How to help clients see and believe in your value
  • The paradox of genius and the implications of why your best work feels like “nothing”
  • Why your pricing should reflect outcomes, not effort
  • How naming your process helps you stand apart from competitors
  • Why AI makes time-based billing a risky long-term strategy

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview
01:21 Alistair’s Formative Experience in Pricing
04:35 Transition to Independent Consulting
05:21 Challenges and Misconceptions in Value-Based Pricing
17:10 The Importance of Value Capture
24:42 Parallels Between Software and Professional Services
27:51 The Paradox of Genius
30:15 Client Perception and Behavioral Economics
32:03 Shaping Client Perception
35:30 The Three Pillars of Intelligent Pricing
35:58 Eliminating the Competition
42:01 The Impact of AI on Value Pricing
51:23 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Alastair Dryburgh

Alastair Dryburgh
Alastair Dryburgh

Alastair Dryburgh is a pricing consultant and author known for helping creative agencies, consultants, and professional service firms adopt value-based pricing strategies. With a background as a finance and commercial director, he brings deep expertise in aligning pricing with the actual value delivered rather than relying on traditional time-based billing. He has written extensively on the subject, including his recent book, Pricing Genius: Getting Paid Properly for Ideas and Advice in the Era of AI, offering practical insights into how professionals can better position and price their expertise in a rapidly evolving landscape.

Beyond consulting, Dryburgh is a regular contributor to publications like Forbes and Management Today, and is often featured as a speaker at international conferences. His work emphasizes differentiation, pricing psychology, and the impact of AI on the knowledge economy. He is also known for mentoring through organizations like the Institute of Chartered Accountants and the Institute of Directors, helping leaders unlock growth by reframing how they think about pricing and value creation.

Website | LinkedIn

About The Price and Value Journey Podcast

The Price and Value Journey is a show for expert-service professionals who want more than formulas and quick fixes. If you’re a solo or small-firm provider—consultant, coach, attorney, CPA, or fractional executive—you know the real work of building a practice goes far beyond pricing. It’s about finding clarity, showing up with confidence, and learning how to express the full value of what you do in ways that clients understand and appreciate.

The Price and Value Journey Podcast with host John RayHosted by John Ray, business advisor and author of The Generosity Mindset, this podcast explores the deeper journey behind running a services business: how you think about your work, how you relate to clients, and how you sustain a business that’s not only profitable but deeply fulfilling. Yes, we talk pricing, but we also talk mindset, business development, trust, empathy, positioning, and all the intangible ingredients that make a practice thrive.

With solo episodes and conversations featuring thoughtful guests, The Price and Value Journey is a companion for professionals who are building something meaningful. Produced in partnership with North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, the podcast is accessible on all major podcast platforms. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include business coaching and advisory work, as well as advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, coaches, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a podcast show host, strategist, and the owner of North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®. John and his team work with B2B professionals to create and conduct their podcast using The Generosity Mindset® Method: building and deepening relationships in a non-salesy way that translates into revenue for their business.

John is also the host of North Fulton Business Radio. With over 880 shows and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in its region like no one else.

John’s book, The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices

The Generosity Mindset, by John RayJohn is the #1 national best-selling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

If you are a professional services provider, your goal is to do transformative work for clients you love working with and get paid commensurate with the value you deliver to them. While negative mindsets can inhibit your growth, adopting a different mindset, The Generosity Mindset®, can replace those self-limiting beliefs. The Generosity Mindset enables you to diagnose and communicate the value you deliver to clients and, in turn, more effectively price to receive a portion of that value.

Whether you’re a consultant, coach, marketing or branding professional, business advisor, attorney, CPA, or work in virtually any other professional services discipline, your content and technical expertise are not proprietary. What’s unique, though, is your experience and how you synthesize and deliver your knowledge. What’s special is your demeanor or the way you deal with your best-fit clients. What’s invaluable is how you deliver outstanding value by guiding people through massive changes in their personal lives and in their businesses that bring them to a place they never thought possible.

Your combination of these elements is unique in your industry. There lies your value, but it’s not the value you see. It’s the value your best-fit customers see in you.

If pricing your value feels uncomfortable or unfamiliar to you, this book will teach you why putting a price on the value your clients perceive and identify serves both them and you, and you’ll learn the factors involved in getting your price right.

The book is available at all major physical and online book retailers worldwide. Follow this link for further details.

Connect with John Ray:

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Tagged With: AI, Alastair Dryburgh, behavioral economics, client perception, intelligent pricing, John Ray, professional services, The Price and Value Journey, value pricing

How Sync Up Bookkeeping Helps Businesses Grow

July 22, 2025 by John Ray

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How Sync Up Bookkeeping Helps Businesses Grow (North Fulton Business Radio, Episode 888)

Sync Up Bookkeeping isn’t your typical firm, and Andrew Clarke isn’t your typical bookkeeper. In this episode, Andrew, the CEO of Sync Up Bookkeeping, joins host John Ray to share how he helps business owners go far beyond balancing books. With experience across multiple industries and four businesses of his own, Andrew uses financial data as a springboard for smarter pricing, stronger margins, and better decisions. He explains why so many business owners bleed cash without realizing it and how understanding your numbers can shift everything.

From rescuing a brewery with unrealistic sales goals to helping a business secure $50,000 in working capital in a single afternoon, Andrew shares real stories of transformation. If your business feels stuck or your finances are murky, this episode will show how the right kind of bookkeeping can be a powerful growth lever.

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. The show is produced by John Ray and North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, and is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Why many small business owners mistakenly operate on gut instinct instead of numbers
  • The dangers of managing your business by checking account balance or credit card limit
  • How poor pricing leads to razor-thin margins and financial stress
  • The hidden power of accurate books for tax compliance, deductions, and smarter decisions
  • Real-world examples of how Sync Up helps clients increase profit and secure capital
  • How proprietary software gives clients a 50,000-foot view of their business
  • Why Andrew calls himself a bookkeeper but acts like a business advisor

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:35 Meet Andrew Clarke, CEO of Sync Up Bookkeeping
02:31 Andrew Clarke’s Journey to Sync Up Bookkeeping
05:20 The Importance of Bookkeeping for Small Businesses
07:00 Common Financial Mistakes and How to Avoid Them
15:12 Sync Up Bookkeeping’s Unique Approach
23:44 Success Stories and Client Testimonials
26:01 Contact Information and Closing Remarks
26:46 Sponsor Messages and Final Thanks

Andrew Clarke, CEO, Sync Up Bookkeeping

Andrew is a casual, fun, nature-loving guy with a passion for numbers and business. With over 45 years of experience working in a multitude of industries, including mortgage banking, aerospace manufacturing, software development, construction project management, food service, and health & wellness, he is ready to help you with your bookkeeping needs.

Andrew has been an advanced user of QuickBooks/Intuit products for more than 30 years! He is adept and extremely knowledgeable about the inner workings of QuickBooks and how it can serve you best in your business.

When he’s not crunching numbers, developing software applications, designing spreadsheets, or using QuickBooks, he loves spending time with his family in the great outdoors. A full-time RVer, traveling the country with his wife, Sheri, and their four-legged fur-child, Loki, Andrew has enjoyed a vast and varied personal and professional life. He has always had an affinity for understanding business from a financial purview by measuring performance through the use of custom-designed financial reporting tools, which he often designs and develops himself.

After a brief two-year retirement period, inspired by his wife, Sheri, he decided to help others in business by providing bookkeeping and consulting services that give them a clear understanding of their financial status. He still enjoys developing custom software from time to time, but right now he wants to focus on helping other small business owners build their businesses by providing them their financial standings in an easy-to-understand format.

Andrew looks forward to establishing a long-lasting relationship by assisting you with your company’s bookkeeping needs.

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Sync Up Bookkeeping

Sync Up Bookkeeping logoSync Up Bookkeeping is a forward-thinking, cloud-based bookkeeping firm that specializes in helping small businesses maintain accurate and organized financial records. By utilizing cutting-edge accounting software and automation tools, the company delivers real-time financial insights and eliminates the hassle of managing day-to-day bookkeeping tasks. Sync Up Bookkeeping is committed to providing efficient, reliable, and tech-driven solutions that empower business owners to make informed decisions and stay focused on their core operations.

With a personalized and proactive approach, Sync Up Bookkeeping offers a comprehensive range of services, including bank reconciliation, expense tracking, financial reporting, and payroll support. The firm tailors its services to fit the unique needs of each client, ensuring compliance and financial clarity at every step. Known for its dependability and attention to detail, Sync Up Bookkeeping serves as a trusted partner in helping businesses achieve long-term financial stability and growth.

Website | LinkedIn

Renasant Bank supports North Fulton Business Radio

Renasant BankRenasant Bank has humble roots, starting in 1904 as a $100,000 bank in a Lee County, Mississippi, bakery. Since then, Renasant has become one of the Southeast’s strongest financial institutions, with over $17 billion in assets and more than 180 banking, lending, wealth management, and financial services offices throughout the region. All of Renasant’s success stems from each banker’s commitment to investing in their communities as a way to better understand the people they serve. At Renasant Bank, they understand you because they work and live alongside you every day.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X (Twitter) | YouTube

Beyond Computer Solutions supports North Fulton Business Radio

If you’re a law firm, medical practice, or manufacturer, there’s one headline you don’t want to make: “Local Business Pays Thousands in Ransom After Cyberattack.” That’s where Beyond Computer Solutions comes in. They help organizations like yours stay out of the news and in business with managed IT and cybersecurity services designed for industries where compliance and reputation matter most.

Whether they serve as your complete IT department or simply support your internal team, they are well-versed in HIPAA, secure document access, written security policies, and other essential aspects that ensure your safety and well-being. Best of all, it starts with a complimentary security assessment.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube

About North Fulton Business Radio and host John Ray

With over 880 episodes and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in our community like no one else. We are the undisputed “Voice of Business” in North Fulton!

The show invites a diverse range of business, non-profit, and community leaders to share their significant contributions to their market, community, and profession. There’s no discrimination based on company size, and there’s never any “pay to play.” North Fulton Business Radio supports and celebrates businesses by sharing positive stories that traditional media ignore. Some media lean left. Some media lean right. We lean business.

John Ray, host of  North Fulton Business Radio, and Owner, Ray Business Advisors
John Ray, host of North Fulton Business Radio and Owner, Ray Business Advisors

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. John and the team at North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, produce the show, and it is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

The studio address is 275 South Main Street, Alpharetta, GA 30009.

You can find the full archive of shows by following this link. The show is available on all the major podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, iHeart Radio, and many others.

John Ray, The Generosity MindsetJohn Ray also operates his own business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their value, their positioning and business development, and their pricing. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as consultants, coaches, attorneys, CPAs, accountants, bookkeepers, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is the national bestselling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

Tagged With: Accounting, Andrew Clarke, Bookkeeping, business advisory, John Ray, North Fulton Business Radio, outsourced bookkeeping, Sync Up Bookkeeping

Donald Farrey on Eliminating Debt and Budgeting

July 21, 2025 by John Ray

Donald Farrey, Don the Money Man, LLC, on North Fulton Business Radio with host John Ray
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Donald Farrey on Eliminating Debt and Budgeting (North Fulton Business Radio, Episode 887)

Donald Farrey, a CPA and a Dave Ramsey Preferred Financial Coach, joins North Fulton Business Radio host John Ray to share how he helps high-income individuals and couples get out of debt, stay on top of their money, and stop living paycheck to paycheck, even when that paycheck is a big one.

After a long career in finance and real estate, a cancer diagnosis led Don to rethink his path. He now focuses on helping others avoid the stress and confusion that often come with money. In this episode, he explains how practical tools like the EveryDollar app and proven methods like the debt snowball can make a real difference.

Don also talks about common financial blind spots, how money can create tension in relationships, and why budgeting doesn’t mean giving up fun. If you’ve ever wondered why your income doesn’t seem to stretch as far as it should, this episode is for you.

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. The show is produced by John Ray and North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, and is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Don Farrey works primarily with high-income individuals and couples to eliminate financial stress, reduce debt, and build a better future.
  • As a Dave Ramsey Preferred Financial Coach, Don uses proven tools like the debt snowball and EveryDollar budgeting app to help clients gain control.
  • Budgeting isn’t about depriving yourself; it’s about spending intentionally on what matters most.
  • Don emphasizes communication between couples as the foundation for financial success in marriage.
  • He helps clients identify and plan for “total cost of ownership” and avoid the cultural trap of keeping up with the Joneses.
  • Emergency funds and intentional planning protect against inevitable disruptions like job loss or illness.
  • Accountability is critical. Most people don’t need more information; they need a partner to help them follow through.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Welcome to North Fulton Business Radio
00:35 Meet “Don the Money Man”
00:57 The Benefits of Renasant Bank
02:21 Don’s Financial Coaching Philosophy
05:00 Dave Ramsey’s Financial Principles
11:00 Budgeting Tips and Tools
13:01 Prioritizing Meaningful Experiences
14:09 Personal Stories and Financial Wisdom
16:14 The Problem with Excessive Spending
16:36 Marriage and Money: Navigating Financial Stress
17:24 Effective Budgeting and Communication
20:31 Planning for the Unexpected
23:01 When to Seek Financial Coaching
26:16 Success Stories and Practical Tips
29:42 Contacting Don the Money Man
31:10 Closing Remarks and Additional Resources

Donald Farrey, Don the Money Man, LLC

Donald Farrey is a CPA and Dave Ramsey Preferred Financial Coach who, after a distinguished career in real estate finance, transitioned to his true calling following his retirement in 2024 due to illness. Motivated by a lifelong passion for financial empowerment, he now dedicates his expertise to guiding individuals and families out of financial distress, equipping them with tools for lasting financial health.

With decades of hands-on experience in cost reduction, mortgages, purchasing vehicles, insurance decisions, and navigating special needs situations, Donald brings a wealth of practical knowledge to his coaching. His deep understanding of the unique challenges clients face allows him to offer tailored, compassionate guidance that supports confident financial decision-making and long-term security.

Website | LinkedIn

Renasant Bank supports North Fulton Business Radio

Renasant BankRenasant Bank has humble roots, starting in 1904 as a $100,000 bank in a Lee County, Mississippi, bakery. Since then, Renasant has become one of the Southeast’s strongest financial institutions, with over $17 billion in assets and more than 180 banking, lending, wealth management, and financial services offices throughout the region. All of Renasant’s success stems from each banker’s commitment to investing in their communities as a way to better understand the people they serve. At Renasant Bank, they understand you because they work and live alongside you every day.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X (Twitter) | YouTube

Beyond Computer Solutions supports North Fulton Business Radio

If you’re a law firm, medical practice, or manufacturer, there’s one headline you don’t want to make: “Local Business Pays Thousands in Ransom After Cyberattack.” That’s where Beyond Computer Solutions comes in. They help organizations like yours stay out of the news and in business with managed IT and cybersecurity services designed for industries where compliance and reputation matter most.

Whether they serve as your complete IT department or simply support your internal team, they are well-versed in HIPAA, secure document access, written security policies, and other essential aspects that ensure your safety and well-being. Best of all, it starts with a complimentary security assessment.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube

About North Fulton Business Radio and host John Ray

With over 880 episodes and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in our community like no one else. We are the undisputed “Voice of Business” in North Fulton!

The show invites a diverse range of business, non-profit, and community leaders to share their significant contributions to their market, community, and profession. There’s no discrimination based on company size, and there’s never any “pay to play.” North Fulton Business Radio supports and celebrates businesses by sharing positive stories that traditional media ignore. Some media lean left. Some media lean right. We lean business.

John Ray, host of  North Fulton Business Radio, and Owner, Ray Business Advisors
John Ray, host of North Fulton Business Radio and Owner, Ray Business Advisors

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. John and the team at North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, produce the show, and it is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

The studio address is 275 South Main Street, Alpharetta, GA 30009.

You can find the full archive of shows by following this link. The show is available on all the major podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, iHeart Radio, and many others.

John Ray, The Generosity MindsetJohn Ray also operates his own business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their value, their positioning and business development, and their pricing. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as consultants, coaches, attorneys, CPAs, accountants, bookkeepers, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is the national bestselling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

Tagged With: budgeting, dave ramsey, Dave Ramsey coach, Donald Farrey, financial coaching, financial stress, John Ray, North Fulton Business Radio, personal finance

How to Fix a Broken Sales Process with Dean Nolley

July 21, 2025 by John Ray

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How to Fix a Broken Sales Process with Dean Nolley (North Fulton Business Radio, Episode 886)

Many business owners know something is off in their sales, but they wait until growth stalls or declines before seeking help. By then, the problems have usually deepened. In this episode of North Fulton Business Radio, host John Ray sits down with Dean Nolley, founder of Sales Growth Imagination, to explore how companies can rebuild their sales process before it’s too late.

Dean shares the patterns he sees across B2B companies of all sizes: missing sales structure, underused CRMs, founder bottlenecks, and a lack of meaningful sales activity tracking. He explains why a solid sales process is not just a set of steps but a system that connects strategy, people, and technology in a way that supports long-term growth.

Dean also breaks down what makes a sales process repeatable, how to make CRM dashboards actually useful, and how to shift from reactive fixes to proactive leadership. Whether you’re doing all the selling yourself or struggling to scale a sales team, Dean offers a roadmap grounded in experience, not theory.

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. The show is produced by John Ray and North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, and is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Most companies wait too long to address sales issues, often after growth has already stalled or reversed.
  • A missing or undocumented sales process is one of the most common and costly problems.
  • Founders who stay in the sales role too long become a bottleneck for growth and scalability.
  • Many businesses have CRMs in place but fail to use them effectively, especially for forecasting and accountability.
  • The right sales process connects strategy, people, and tools in a way that drives consistent results.
  • A repeatable sales system makes onboarding new reps faster and reduces dependency on individual talent.
  • Tracking lead indicators—early-stage activities—is essential for long-term revenue health.
  • A working CRM should reflect what matters most to owners, whether that’s gross margin, deal velocity, or pipeline strength.
  • Dean’s approach involves hands-on implementation, not just advice—he builds systems that last beyond his engagement.
  • Fixing sales is not about chasing quick wins. It’s about laying the groundwork for sustainable, confident growth.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:47 Meet Dean Nolley: Sales Growth Expert
02:48 Dean’s Journey: From Kodak to Sales Consulting
06:27 Common Sales Challenges and Solutions
11:03 The Importance of CRM and Sales Processes
19:53 Hiring and Managing Sales Teams
26:18 Success Stories and Client Testimonials
31:19 Closing Remarks and Additional Resources

Dean Nolley, Sales Growth Imagination

Dean Nolley, Sales Growth Imagination
Dean Nolley, Sales Growth Imagination

Dean Nolley is a senior sales leader with more than 30 years of experience driving business growth and profitability. He has an impressive record of scaling up sales teams and improving revenue for organizations of all sizes.

With his collaborative approach, Dean structures partnerships for mutual success and a shared sense of accomplishment. His experience includes corporate leadership, a Silicon Valley start-up, and multiple VC/PE-backed portfolio companies, while starting and successfully selling his own company, Digital Imagination.

Thus, Dean is walking down memory lane with supporting small businesses, as he has successfully walked the walk as a small business founder and owner. Dean has certifications in OMG (Objective Management Group), CSL (Certified Sales Leader), and AI Certified (Business Transformation, AI in the Sales Process, and AI Sales Tools).

Website | LinkedIn

Renasant Bank supports North Fulton Business Radio

Renasant BankRenasant Bank has humble roots, starting in 1904 as a $100,000 bank in a Lee County, Mississippi, bakery. Since then, Renasant has become one of the Southeast’s strongest financial institutions, with over $17 billion in assets and more than 180 banking, lending, wealth management, and financial services offices throughout the region. All of Renasant’s success stems from each banker’s commitment to investing in their communities as a way to better understand the people they serve. At Renasant Bank, they understand you because they work and live alongside you every day.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X (Twitter) | YouTube

Beyond Computer Solutions supports North Fulton Business Radio

If you’re a law firm, medical practice, or manufacturer, there’s one headline you don’t want to make: “Local Business Pays Thousands in Ransom After Cyberattack.” That’s where Beyond Computer Solutions comes in. They help organizations like yours stay out of the news and in business with managed IT and cybersecurity services designed for industries where compliance and reputation matter most.

Whether they serve as your complete IT department or simply support your internal team, they are well-versed in HIPAA, secure document access, written security policies, and other essential aspects that ensure your safety and well-being. Best of all, it starts with a complimentary security assessment.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube

About North Fulton Business Radio and host John Ray

With over 880 episodes and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in our community like no one else. We are the undisputed “Voice of Business” in North Fulton!

The show invites a diverse range of business, non-profit, and community leaders to share their significant contributions to their market, community, and profession. There’s no discrimination based on company size, and there’s never any “pay to play.” North Fulton Business Radio supports and celebrates businesses by sharing positive stories that traditional media ignore. Some media lean left. Some media lean right. We lean business.

John Ray, host of  North Fulton Business Radio, and Owner, Ray Business Advisors
John Ray, host of North Fulton Business Radio and Owner, Ray Business Advisors

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. John and the team at North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, produce the show, and it is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

The studio address is 275 South Main Street, Alpharetta, GA 30009.

You can find the full archive of shows by following this link. The show is available on all the major podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, iHeart Radio, and many others.

John Ray, The Generosity MindsetJohn Ray also operates his own business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their value, their positioning and business development, and their pricing. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as consultants, coaches, attorneys, CPAs, accountants, bookkeepers, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is the national bestselling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

Tagged With: crm, CRM system, Dean Nolley, John Ray, North Fulton Business Radio, Sales, sales consulting, sales process, Sales Process Engineering, sales processes, sales teams

Renée Puvvada on How to Revive a Dead Book and Sell Thousands

July 18, 2025 by John Ray

Renée Puvvada on How to Revive a Dead Book and Sell Thousands, on North Fulton Business Radio with host John Ray
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Renée Puvvada on How to Revive a Dead Book and Sell Thousands (North Fulton Business Radio, Episode 885)

Most business professionals think writing a book will catapult their visibility and lead to instant credibility and clients. But what happens when the book flops? Renée Puvvada, founder and CEO of Smokin’ Hot Books, joins host John Ray to reveal why most books don’t sell and how to fix them.

Renée shares the exact five-step strategy she used to take her own book from flop to 10,000+ copies sold and $120,000+ in revenue. Whether you’ve written a book already or are thinking about it, this conversation will change how you think about titles, Amazon listings, reviews, and the true business value of a well-positioned book.

Don’t miss this practical, myth-busting conversation that every author-entrepreneur needs to hear.

SPECIAL OFFER for North Fulton Business Radio listeners: if you’re ready to turn your book into a high-performing sales machine, follow this link.

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. The show is produced by John Ray and North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, and is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • The harsh truth: Most self-published books sell fewer than 250 copies in a lifetime.
  • Success isn’t about the writing. It’s about positioning. A book isn’t just about something; it must be for someone.
  • Your Amazon listing is your real storefront. A professional, conversion-driven Amazon profile (not just a cover and short blurb) is essential.
  • 100 reviews is the magic number. Social proof makes or breaks a book’s credibility.
  • Relaunching works. You can fix a “dead” book by reworking your title, cover, and launch strategy.
  • Use podcasting like a modern book tour. A coordinated podcast release strategy can replicate the buzz of a national launch.
  • Even niche books can thrive. Renée sold 10,000+ copies of a rainwater harvesting guide—a masterclass in targeting.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Welcome
02:12 Meet Renée Puvvada: Founder of Smoking Hot Books
03:31 Renee’s Journey to Success
05:33 The Struggles and Breakthroughs
10:17 Understanding Your Target Audience
15:02 Creating a Strong Amazon Profile
18:46 Relaunching and Revamping Your Book
19:47 The Power of a Successful Book Launch
20:09 The Importance of Reviews
23:13 James Clear’s Podcast Strategy
24:45 Planning Your Podcast Tour
28:14 Resurrecting a Dead Book
36:00 Success Stories and Client Testimonials
37:36 Final Thoughts and Offers

Smokin’ Hot Books and Renée Puvvada

Smokin’ Hot Books is a boutique publishing and marketing consultancy created and led by Renée Puvvada. As founder and CEO, Renée Puvvada is central to the company’s mission: empowering entrepreneurs, business owners, and thought leaders to turn their stories and expertise into influential business books. With her background in book marketing and entrepreneurship, Renée developed proprietary processes like the Viral Book Formula and the Lightning Book Launch Method. These strategies focus on rapidly transforming client ideas into professionally written, designed, and launched books, often within a fast six-month timeline, while ensuring every project is tailored to build authority, drive lead generation, and leave a lasting impact.

Renée’s leadership ensures that Smokin’ Hot Books delivers end-to-end support: from story development and ghostwriting through to editing, design, and public launches. Her approach goes beyond traditional publishing. By leveraging high-touch services and a handpicked team of publishing experts, Renée works directly with clients to establish their credibility, deepen audience engagement, and strategically position their book as a driver for business growth. Her personal reputation for results-driven book launches is integral to Smokin’ Hot Books’ standing as a trusted partner for driven professionals looking to scale their influence and business opportunities.

Website | LinkedIn

Renasant Bank supports North Fulton Business Radio

Renasant BankRenasant Bank has humble roots, starting in 1904 as a $100,000 bank in a Lee County, Mississippi, bakery. Since then, Renasant has become one of the Southeast’s strongest financial institutions, with over $17 billion in assets and more than 180 banking, lending, wealth management, and financial services offices throughout the region. All of Renasant’s success stems from each banker’s commitment to investing in their communities as a way to better understand the people they serve. At Renasant Bank, they understand you because they work and live alongside you every day.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X (Twitter) | YouTube

Beyond Computer Solutions supports North Fulton Business Radio

If you’re a law firm, medical practice, or manufacturer, there’s one headline you don’t want to make: “Local Business Pays Thousands in Ransom After Cyberattack.” That’s where Beyond Computer Solutions comes in. They help organizations like yours stay out of the news and in business with managed IT and cybersecurity services designed for industries where compliance and reputation matter most.

Whether they serve as your complete IT department or simply support your internal team, they are well-versed in HIPAA, secure document access, written security policies, and other essential aspects that ensure your safety and well-being. Best of all, it starts with a complimentary security assessment.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube

About North Fulton Business Radio and host John Ray

With over 880 episodes and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in our community like no one else. We are the undisputed “Voice of Business” in North Fulton!

The show invites a diverse range of business, non-profit, and community leaders to share their significant contributions to their market, community, and profession. There’s no discrimination based on company size, and there’s never any “pay to play.” North Fulton Business Radio supports and celebrates businesses by sharing positive stories that traditional media ignore. Some media lean left. Some media lean right. We lean business.

John Ray, host of  North Fulton Business Radio, and Owner, Ray Business Advisors
John Ray, host of North Fulton Business Radio and Owner, Ray Business Advisors

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. John and the team at North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, produce the show, and it is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

The studio address is 275 South Main Street, Alpharetta, GA 30009.

You can find the full archive of shows by following this link. The show is available on all the major podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, iHeart Radio, and many others.

John Ray, The Generosity MindsetJohn Ray also operates his own business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their value, their positioning and business development, and their pricing. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as consultants, coaches, attorneys, CPAs, accountants, bookkeepers, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is the national bestselling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

Tagged With: Amazon, book marketing, book publishing, business books, dead books, James Clear, John Ray, North Fulton Business Radio, Renée Puvvada, Smokin' Hot Books

100 Proven Ways to Acquire and Keep Clients for Life with Richard Weylman

July 16, 2025 by John Ray

100 Proven Ways to Acquire and Keep Clients for Life with Richard Weylman, on The Price and Value Journey podcast with host John Ray
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100 Proven Ways to Acquire and Keep Clients for Life with Richard Weylman (The Price and Value Journey, Episode 139)

In this compelling episode of The Price and Value Journey, host John Ray interviews Richard Weylman, international bestselling author of 100 Proven Ways to Acquire and Keep Clients for Life. Despite being orphaned at age 6 and living in 19 foster homes, Richard became an award-winning sales leader at Rolls Royce and helped grow the Robb Report from inception to a record liquidity event.

Richard shares powerful insights on building lasting client relationships during what he calls “the great reevaluation,” a time when 25% of people are switching service providers because they feel taken for granted. Learn why satisfied clients aren’t enough anymore, how small word changes can transform your business, and practical tactics for turning clients into loyal advocates through personalized experiences.

Key topics include transforming your CRM into a CXM (Customer Experience Management system), the power of empathetic communication, why you should send thank-you notes for rejections, and how to create remarkable experiences that generate word-of-mouth referrals. Richard also reveals the one question he wishes he’d get asked more often and shares real-world examples from companies like Chewy, Bergdorf Goodman, and his own consulting practice.

The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of the Business RadioX® podcast network.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • “The Great Reevaluation”: 25% of people are switching service providers because they feel taken for granted, creating opportunities for relationship-focused professionals.
  • Satisfied ≠ Loyal: Satisfied customers are “loyal neutral,” with 20–30% willing to leave for better options. Therefore, you need delighted advocates.
  • Words Matter: Simple changes like “feel welcome to call” instead of “feel free to call” create emotional connections and set you apart.
  • Transform Your CRM: Convert your Customer Relationship Management system into a Customer Experience Management (CXM) system with personal details about clients’ interests and preferences.
  • Thank You for “No”: Send gracious thank-you notes when prospects reject you. It positions you for future opportunities when timing improves.
  • Personalize Everything: Use client data to create tailored experiences, from birthday reminders to interest-based invitations and communications.
  • Focus on “How”: People don’t implement advice because they’re not told HOW. Provide specific, actionable steps rather than just concepts.
  • Build Remarkable Experiences: Create experiences worth talking about. This drives word-of-mouth marketing more effectively than traditional advertising.
  • The Power of Stories: Everyone has a story. Ask about it, listen to it, and remember it to build deeper emotional connections.
  • Relationship Marketing: In an AI-driven world, the human touch becomes even more valuable. Use technology to enhance, not replace, personal relationships.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction to Richard Weylman
00:50 Richard’s Early Life and Epiphany
07:52 The Great Reevaluation in Professional Services
11:56 Building Emotional Connections with Clients
18:31 The Power of Words in Client Relationships
25:18 From Satisfied Clients to Loyal Advocates
31:53 The Donut Story
32:44 Building Client Advocacy
33:14 The Bergdorf Goodman Experience
36:50 Transforming CRM to CXM
41:54 The Power of Personalized Marketing
49:15 The Importance of Implementation
56:14 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Richard Weylman

Richard Weylman
Richard Weylman

Orphaned at age 6, Richard Weylman lived in nineteen foster homes and attended eleven different schools. Rather than becoming a victim of those circumstances he overcame them and has had remarkable business success, including going from being an award-winning general sales manager of Rolls Royce to heading sales and marketing for The Robb Report, A Magazine for the Luxury Lifestyle, from its inception until its record liquidity event.

A Hall of Fame-inducted keynote speaker, Richard has also been inducted into the Customer Experience Hall of Fame for his legendary work helping brands engage with their customers and retain them.

Richard is the author of three international bestsellers, the latest of which, 100 Proven Ways to Acquire and Keep Clients for Life, was the #1 New Release in Marketing and Consumer Behavior and #1 in Customer Relations on Amazon. The book was also been selected by Forbes editor Shep Hyken as a Top Ten Business Book for 2024, and was named the Outstanding Work of Literature award for 2024 by Bookpal. It is available on Amazon or at your favorite bookstore.

Finally, Richard is a Horatio Alger nominee for his philanthropic work on behalf of orphans and widows.

Website | LinkedIn

About The Price and Value Journey Podcast

The Price and Value Journey is a show for expert-service professionals who want more than formulas and quick fixes. If you’re a solo or small-firm provider—consultant, coach, attorney, CPA, or fractional executive—you know the real work of building a practice goes far beyond pricing. It’s about finding clarity, showing up with confidence, and learning how to express the full value of what you do in ways that clients understand and appreciate.

The Price and Value Journey Podcast with host John RayHosted by John Ray, business advisor and author of The Generosity Mindset, this podcast explores the deeper journey behind running a services business: how you think about your work, how you relate to clients, and how you sustain a business that’s not only profitable but deeply fulfilling. Yes, we talk pricing, but we also talk mindset, business development, trust, empathy, positioning, and all the intangible ingredients that make a practice thrive.

With solo episodes and conversations featuring thoughtful guests, The Price and Value Journey is a companion for professionals who are building something meaningful. Produced in partnership with North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, the podcast is accessible on all major podcast platforms. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include business coaching and advisory work, as well as advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, coaches, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a podcast show host, strategist, and the owner of North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®. John and his team work with B2B professionals to create and conduct their podcast using The Generosity Mindset® Method: building and deepening relationships in a non-salesy way that translates into revenue for their business.

John is also the host of North Fulton Business Radio. With over 880 shows and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in its region like no one else.

John’s book, The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices

The Generosity Mindset, by John RayJohn is the #1 national best-selling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

If you are a professional services provider, your goal is to do transformative work for clients you love working with and get paid commensurate with the value you deliver to them. While negative mindsets can inhibit your growth, adopting a different mindset, The Generosity Mindset™, can replace those self-limiting beliefs. The Generosity Mindset enables you to diagnose and communicate the value you deliver to clients and, in turn, more effectively price to receive a portion of that value.

Whether you’re a consultant, coach, marketing or branding professional, business advisor, attorney, CPA, or work in virtually any other professional services discipline, your content and technical expertise are not proprietary. What’s unique, though, is your experience and how you synthesize and deliver your knowledge. What’s special is your demeanor or the way you deal with your best-fit clients. What’s invaluable is how you deliver outstanding value by guiding people through massive changes in their personal lives and in their businesses that bring them to a place they never thought possible.

Your combination of these elements is unique in your industry. There lies your value, but it’s not the value you see. It’s the value your best-fit customers see in you.

If pricing your value feels uncomfortable or unfamiliar to you, this book will teach you why putting a price on the value your clients perceive and identify serves both them and you, and you’ll learn the factors involved in getting your price right.

The book is available at all major physical and online book retailers worldwide. Follow this link for further details.

Connect with John Ray:

Website | LinkedIn | Twitter

Business RadioX®:  LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram

Tagged With: Bergdorf Goodman, client advocacy, client relationships, client service, customer service, emotional connections, excellence in customer service, John Ray, marketing professional services, personalized marketing, professional services, Richard Weylman, Rolls Royce, The Price and Value Journey, The Robb Report

How Mentorship Transforms: Five Men by Dave Schmit

July 15, 2025 by John Ray

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How Mentorship Transforms: Five Men by Dave Schmit (North Fulton Business Radio, Episode 884)

What happens when you reflect on the people who shaped your character, not just your career?

Dave Schmit, principal of Schmit + Associates and author of Five Men: The Transformative Power of Mentorship, joins host John Ray for a moving conversation about the mentors who changed his life. From his father and a high school baseball coach to a faith leader who walked with him through unimaginable grief, Dave shares how each man left a lasting imprint. Their influence continues to guide his work, his family, and his approach to leadership.

This episode is not about business tips. It is about legacy. It is about the quiet power of showing up for someone else. Dave’s book is an invitation to reflect on the mentors in your own life and the person you could become for someone who needs you.

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. The show is produced by John Ray and North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, and is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Mentorship is built over time: Dave’s mentors spanned decades and shaped every part of his life—vocational, personal, and spiritual.
  • Mentors speak hard truths: The most meaningful guidance often comes in the form of tough love, delivered with care.
  • Mentorship vs. coaching: Unlike coaching, true mentorship is grounded in long-term relationships and mutual respect.
  • Anyone can be a mentor: teachers, bosses, priests, parents; many roles can become mentoring relationships when trust and consistency are present.
  • Mentorship can heal division: Dave and his book’s preface writer, Egbert Perry, highlight how mentorship fosters understanding in a divided world.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Welcome to North Fulton Business Radio
01:51 Guest Introduction: Dave Schmit
02:23 Dave Schmit’s Background and Career
03:29 The Inspiration Behind Five Men
06:53 Mentorship Stories and Lessons
09:18 The Importance of Long-Term Mentorship
12:09 Personal Stories: Lessons from Dad
17:12 Truth Tellers: The Role of Mentors
17:50 A Career in Development
18:35 Meeting Fred Fisher
19:39 Building Connections
22:08 A Personal Story of Loss and Faith
24:26 The Importance of Mentorship
26:52 Encouraging Young People to Seek Mentors
28:56 How to Be a Better Mentor
30:29 Final Thoughts and Book Information
34:17 Closing Remarks and Announcements

Dave Schmit

Dave Schmit, Author of Five Men: The Transformative Power of Mentorships
Dave Schmit, Author of Five Men: The Transformative Power of Mentorships

Dave Schmit is a seasoned real estate developer, entrepreneur, and mentor dedicated to building communities and future leaders.

As the founder of Schmit + Associates, he has helped shape walkable, experience-driven developments across Georgia.

Outside of business, Dave is passionate about mentorship, leadership, and faith, drawing from his experiences as an athlete, coach, and community leader.

Five Men is his debut book, sharing the invaluable lessons he learned from the mentors who shaped his life. His mission is to inspire others to recognize, appreciate, and become mentors in their communities.

LinkedIn | Amazon

Renasant Bank supports North Fulton Business Radio

Renasant BankRenasant Bank has humble roots, starting in 1904 as a $100,000 bank in a Lee County, Mississippi, bakery. Since then, Renasant has become one of the Southeast’s strongest financial institutions, with over $17 billion in assets and more than 180 banking, lending, wealth management, and financial services offices throughout the region. All of Renasant’s success stems from each banker’s commitment to investing in their communities as a way to better understand the people they serve. At Renasant Bank, they understand you because they work and live alongside you every day.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X (Twitter) | YouTube

Beyond Computer Solutions supports North Fulton Business Radio

If you’re a law firm, medical practice, or manufacturer, there’s one headline you don’t want to make: “Local Business Pays Thousands in Ransom After Cyberattack.” That’s where Beyond Computer Solutions comes in. They help organizations like yours stay out of the news and in business with managed IT and cybersecurity services designed for industries where compliance and reputation matter most.

Whether they serve as your complete IT department or simply support your internal team, they are well-versed in HIPAA, secure document access, written security policies, and other essential aspects that ensure your safety and well-being. Best of all, it starts with a complimentary security assessment.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube

About North Fulton Business Radio and host John Ray

With over 880 episodes and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in our community like no one else. We are the undisputed “Voice of Business” in North Fulton!

The show invites a diverse range of business, non-profit, and community leaders to share their significant contributions to their market, community, and profession. There’s no discrimination based on company size, and there’s never any “pay to play.” North Fulton Business Radio supports and celebrates businesses by sharing positive stories that traditional media ignore. Some media lean left. Some media lean right. We lean business.

John Ray, host of  North Fulton Business Radio, and Owner, Ray Business Advisors
John Ray, host of North Fulton Business Radio and Owner, Ray Business Advisors

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. John and the team at North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, produce the show, and it is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

The studio address is 275 South Main Street, Alpharetta, GA 30009.

You can find the full archive of shows by following this link. The show is available on all the major podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, iHeart Radio, and many others.

John Ray, The Generosity MindsetJohn Ray also operates his own business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their value, their positioning and business development, and their pricing. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as consultants, coaches, attorneys, CPAs, accountants, bookkeepers, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is the national bestselling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

Tagged With: Author, Beyond Computer Solutions, Coaching, community leader, Dave Schmit, Egbert Perry, Five Men, John Ray, mentoring, Mentors, mentorship, North Fulton Business Radio, renasant bank, Schmit+Associates

The Transformational Work of the STAR House Foundation

July 10, 2025 by John Ray

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The Transformational Work of the STAR House Foundation (North Fulton Business Radio, Episode 883)

In Roswell, Georgia, hundreds of children face steep challenges outside the classroom. Those challenges don’t stop when the school day ends. That’s where the STAR House Foundation comes in.

In this episode of North Fulton Business Radio, host John Ray speaks with Windy Nicholson, Maureen Curtis, and Alejandra Torchia of the STAR House Foundation, a nonprofit that provides free, on-site afterschool programs for underserved children at Title I elementary schools. These programs offer more than academic help. They provide character development, emotional support, healthy snacks, and consistent encouragement from trusted adults.

A $1,000 donation funds a full year of support for one child. Many former students are now returning as volunteers, educators, and even board members. Their “32 STARS for 32 Years” campaign aims to raise $32,000 to expand the mission and reach even more children.

If you believe every child deserves a strong start and a real chance to thrive, this conversation will show you what that looks like in action.

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. The show is produced by John Ray and North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, and is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Early intervention matters: Reading proficiency by third grade is a strong predictor of long-term academic success. STAR House helps students build that foundation.
  • On-campus access: STAR House operates after school in Title I schools at no cost to families, with a six-to-one student-to-coach ratio.
  • A full-circle model: Former students are now volunteers, educators, and board members—proof of long-term transformation.
  • High-impact giving: Just $1,000 supports a child for an entire year of afterschool care, tutoring, and personal development.
  • Community powered: STAR House depends on individual donors, sponsors, volunteers, and corporate partners to fulfill its mission.
  • Current campaign: “32 STARS for 32 Years” seeks to raise $32,000 to fund the upcoming school year for underserved students in Roswell.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction to North Fulton Business Radio
00:24 Highlighting the STAR House Foundation
00:46 Renasant Bank Sponsorship
01:49 Welcoming Guests from STAR House Foundation
02:14 Overview of STAR House Foundation
03:23 Challenges Faced by Underserved Children
04:35 Maureen’s Role and Experience
06:00 Details About the Schools Served
09:41 Importance of Food and Nutrition
10:16 Growth and Impact of STAR House Foundation
12:50 Partnership with Schools
15:09 The Stakes and Long-term Impact
19:05 Heartwarming Success Stories
22:09 Back to School Campaign
25:17 Volunteer Opportunities
28:40 Corporate Sponsorships and Donations
29:45 Final Thoughts and Gratitude
33:12 Closing Remarks and Sponsor Message from Beyond Computer Solutions

STAR House Foundation

STAR House Foundation is a non-profit organization based in Roswell, Georgia, dedicated to supporting at-risk children in North Fulton County through after-school tutoring, mentoring, and enrichment programs. Serving over 200 students in three Title I schools, STAR House provides a safe and nurturing environment where children can improve their academic performance, develop positive study habits, and build essential life skills. The foundation also offers a summer camp that bridges the academic gap during school breaks, focusing on retention and continued growth for elementary students.

Founded in 1993 by local volunteers who recognized the need for after-school supervision and academic support among economically disadvantaged youth, STAR House has grown to become a vital resource in the community. Its mission is to equip students with the tools and encouragement needed for personal and educational success, working closely with schools, families, and community partners. STAR House is committed to fostering diversity, inclusion, and equity, ensuring all children have the opportunity to reach their full potential and envisioning a future where every student can improve their life’s trajectory through education and mentorship.

Website | LinkedIn | Instagram

Renasant Bank supports North Fulton Business Radio

Renasant BankRenasant Bank has humble roots, starting in 1904 as a $100,000 bank in a Lee County, Mississippi, bakery. Since then, Renasant has become one of the Southeast’s strongest financial institutions, with over $17 billion in assets and more than 180 banking, lending, wealth management, and financial services offices throughout the region. All of Renasant’s success stems from each banker’s commitment to investing in their communities as a way to better understand the people they serve. At Renasant Bank, they understand you because they work and live alongside you every day.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | X (Twitter) | YouTube

Beyond Computer Solutions supports North Fulton Business Radio

If you’re a law firm, medical practice, or manufacturer, there’s one headline you don’t want to make: “Local Business Pays Thousands in Ransom After Cyberattack.” That’s where Beyond Computer Solutions comes in. They help organizations like yours stay out of the news and in business with managed IT and cybersecurity services designed for industries where compliance and reputation matter most.

Whether they serve as your complete IT department or simply support your internal team, they are well-versed in HIPAA, secure document access, written security policies, and other essential aspects that ensure your safety and well-being. Best of all, it starts with a complimentary security assessment.

Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube

About North Fulton Business Radio and host John Ray

With over 880 episodes and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in our community like no one else. We are the undisputed “Voice of Business” in North Fulton!

The show invites a diverse range of business, non-profit, and community leaders to share their significant contributions to their market, community, and profession. There’s no discrimination based on company size, and there’s never any “pay to play.” North Fulton Business Radio supports and celebrates businesses by sharing positive stories that traditional media ignore. Some media lean left. Some media lean right. We lean business.

John Ray, host of  North Fulton Business Radio, and Owner, Ray Business Advisors
John Ray, host of North Fulton Business Radio and Owner, Ray Business Advisors

John Ray is the host of North Fulton Business Radio. John and the team at North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, produce the show, and it is recorded inside Renasant Bank in Alpharetta.

The studio address is 275 South Main Street, Alpharetta, GA 30009.

You can find the full archive of shows by following this link. The show is available on all the major podcast apps, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, Amazon, iHeart Radio, and many others.

John Ray, The Generosity MindsetJohn Ray also operates his own business advisory practice. John’s services include advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their value, their positioning and business development, and their pricing. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as consultants, coaches, attorneys, CPAs, accountants, bookkeepers, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

John is the national bestselling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

Tagged With: after school care, Alejandra Torchia, Beyond Computer Solutions, early childhood education, John Ray, Maureen Curtis, mentorship, North Fulton Business Radio, renasant bank, Roswell, Roswell Georgia, Star House Foundation, Title I schools, underserved children, underserved communities, why early childhood matters, Windy Nicholson

Why Charging Premium Fees is Actually a Service to Your Clients, with Criminal Attorney Joshua Baron

July 9, 2025 by John Ray

Why Charging Premium Fees Is Actually Service to Your Clients, with Criminal Attorney Joshua Baron, on The Price and Value Journey podcast with host John Ray
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Why Charging Premium Fees is Actually a Service to Your Clients, with Criminal Attorney Joshua Baron (The Price and Value Journey, Episode 138)

In this second part of a compelling conversation, host John Ray continues his deep dive with criminal defense attorney Joshua Baron, exploring the life-changing effects of charging premium fees and the philosophy behind building a service-based practice.

Josh reveals how a single 45-minute conversation with a business consultant led him to triple his prices and why most of his clients said yes. This episode unpacks the psychology behind pricing decisions, the importance of aligning your client experience with your fees, and how premium pricing actually serves both attorney and client better.

Beyond pricing strategy, Josh shares his unique approach to client access (including giving out his personal cell phone number), his philosophy on when to work for free versus when to charge premium rates, and how his deeply held beliefs about service and purpose drive his business decisions.

Whether you’re struggling with pricing confidence, wondering how to justify premium fees, or seeking to understand the relationship between pricing and client treatment, this episode provides both tactical strategies and a philosophical framework for building a sustainable, values-driven practice.

If you haven’t heard the first part of John’s interview with Josh, please follow this link

The Price and Value Journey is presented by John Ray and produced by North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of the Business RadioX® podcast network.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Test pricing changes with pilot programs – Don’t overhaul everything at once; experiment with a subset of cases to build confidence and gather data.
  • Focus on what you’re uniquely good at – Narrow your offerings dramatically rather than trying to serve everyone; Josh went from thirty practice areas to essentially two.
  • Have honest value conversations with clients – Help clients articulate whether the case is truly important to them rather than trying to convince them it should be.
  • Premium pricing requires premium experience alignment – You can’t charge high fees while delivering a discount experience; everything must align.
  • If clients don’t treat you well, examine your pricing – Low prices communicate that you see yourself as low-value, which affects how clients interact with you.
  • Personal accessibility can reduce overall contact – Giving clients his cell phone number actually decreased calls because they felt secure knowing they could reach him.
  • Your day job enables your mission, it doesn’t have to be your mission – Charging sustainable rates allows you to pursue your deeper purpose without financial stress.

Topics Discussed in this Episode

00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview
01:34 Recap of Part One
02:00 Joshua Baron’s Pricing Journey Begins
04:04 The Impact of Pricing Changes
08:08 Client Value and Case Selection
10:30 Understanding Client Value
16:53 Creative Solutions in Legal Practice
20:37 Premium Legal Fees: A Service to All
22:45 Balancing Work and Life as a Lawyer
23:35 The Importance of Pricing and Client Treatment
25:13 Setting Boundaries with Clients
26:09 The Value of Accessibility and Client Communication
30:16 Philosophy Behind Legal Practice
34:41 Pricing and the Mindset of Service
42:42 The Importance of Networking and Relationships
46:15 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Joshua Baron

Joshua Baron
Joshua Baron

Joshua Baron is a criminal defense attorney and the founder of SB Legal, based in Utah. He graduated summa cum laude with a Bachelor of Arts in History from Cal Poly, Pomona, at age 18, then served an LDS mission in Viña del Mar, Chile, where he became fluent in Spanish. In 2007, he earned his J.D. cum laude from Brigham Young University’s J. Reuben Clark Law School, serving as Executive Editor of the Journal of Public Law and Associate Editor of the Education Law Journal. After law school, Baron began his career as a civil litigator in Park City, representing developers and real estate companies. Seeking more trial experience, he joined the Salt Lake City Prosecutor’s Office in 2008, handling over 1,500 criminal cases per year and leading more than thirty jury trials.

In 2009, Baron co-founded Sharifi & Baron, PLLC, which later became SB Legal. He has since represented hundreds of clients in nearly every court in Utah, covering a wide range of criminal and immigration matters. Baron is licensed to practice before both federal and state courts in Utah. His practice areas include criminal defense—such as violent crimes, drug offenses, white-collar crimes, domestic violence, and sex crimes—and immigration law, including deportation defense and appeals. He has achieved not guilty verdicts and dismissals in serious criminal cases, including aggravated burglary, sexual assault, and drug distribution.

Baron is recognized for his professionalism, client-focused approach, and responsiveness. He has been selected as a Super Lawyer by Mountain States Super Lawyers from 2020 to 2025 and previously as a Rising Star. He has also been named a Top Lawyer by the Global Directory of Who’s Who and included in Utah Business Magazine’s Utah Legal Elite.

In addition to his legal practice, Baron is an author and educator, having written books such as Criminal Defense Referrals and The Business of Criminal Law, and taught criminal law and procedure as adjunct faculty at Ensign College.

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About The Price and Value Journey Podcast

The Price and Value Journey is a show for expert-service professionals who want more than formulas and quick fixes. If you’re a solo or small-firm provider—consultant, coach, attorney, CPA, or fractional executive—you know the real work of building a practice goes far beyond pricing. It’s about finding clarity, showing up with confidence, and learning how to express the full value of what you do in ways that clients understand and appreciate.

The Price and Value Journey Podcast with host John RayHosted by John Ray, business advisor and author of The Generosity Mindset, this podcast explores the deeper journey behind running a services business: how you think about your work, how you relate to clients, and how you sustain a business that’s not only profitable but deeply fulfilling. Yes, we talk pricing, but we also talk mindset, business development, trust, empathy, positioning, and all the intangible ingredients that make a practice thrive.

With solo episodes and conversations featuring thoughtful guests, The Price and Value Journey is a companion for professionals who are building something meaningful. Produced in partnership with North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®, the podcast is accessible on all major podcast platforms. The complete show archive is here.

John Ray, Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey
John Ray, Author of The Generosity Mindset and Host of The Price and Value Journey

John Ray is the host of The Price and Value Journey.

John owns Ray Business Advisors, a business advisory practice. John’s services include business coaching and advisory work, as well as advising solopreneurs and small professional services firms on their pricing. John is passionate about the power of pricing for business owners, as changing pricing is the fastest way to change the profitability of a business. His clients are professionals who are selling their expertise, such as attorneys, CPAs, accountants and bookkeepers, consultants, coaches, marketing professionals, and other professional services practitioners.

In his other business, John is a podcast show host, strategist, and the owner of North Fulton Business Radio, LLC, an affiliate of Business RadioX®. John and his team work with B2B professionals to create and conduct their podcast using The Generosity Mindset® Method: building and deepening relationships in a non-salesy way that translates into revenue for their business.

John is also the host of North Fulton Business Radio. With over 880 shows and having featured over 1,300 guests, North Fulton Business Radio is the longest-running podcast in the North Fulton area, covering business in its region like no one else.

John’s book, The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices

The Generosity Mindset, by John RayJohn is the #1 national best-selling author of The Generosity Mindset: A Journey to Business Success by Raising Your Confidence, Value, and Prices.

If you are a professional services provider, your goal is to do transformative work for clients you love working with and get paid commensurate with the value you deliver to them. While negative mindsets can inhibit your growth, adopting a different mindset, The Generosity Mindset™, can replace those self-limiting beliefs. The Generosity Mindset enables you to diagnose and communicate the value you deliver to clients and, in turn, more effectively price to receive a portion of that value.

Whether you’re a consultant, coach, marketing or branding professional, business advisor, attorney, CPA, or work in virtually any other professional services discipline, your content and technical expertise are not proprietary. What’s unique, though, is your experience and how you synthesize and deliver your knowledge. What’s special is your demeanor or the way you deal with your best-fit clients. What’s invaluable is how you deliver outstanding value by guiding people through massive changes in their personal lives and in their businesses that bring them to a place they never thought possible.

Your combination of these elements is unique in your industry. There lies your value, but it’s not the value you see. It’s the value your best-fit customers see in you.

If pricing your value feels uncomfortable or unfamiliar to you, this book will teach you why putting a price on the value your clients perceive and identify serves both them and you, and you’ll learn the factors involved in getting your price right.

The book is available at all major physical and online book retailers worldwide. Follow this link for further details.

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